KK spinning owners: KastKing spinning reel size ? 2024
GeekFisher reply :
Hi guys and gals,
I just ordered two new KK reels, 1 baitcast and 1 spinning. I ordered the Valiant Eagle, in 2000 size. I read somewhere else that the KK equivalent size to a shimano 2500 would be a 3000. At the time of order, I was under impression that a 3000 KK would be same than a Shimano 3000 and a 2000 would be more or less a 2500. Was my assumption right ? I have a bunch of Sahara 2500FE but they don't sell them anymore and to go to a 6.2:1 ratio (I love to pick up slack fast), you need to go to their 3000HG size which I do not want even if they apparently weight the same. I usually fish with Tuf-Line XP 20lbs braid and from the website spec, the 2000 would hold plenty of it. I had to order from eBay as the regular KK site isn't shipping to their Northern neighbours (note the spelling 
) The reel will be paired with Medium/fast 7' rods for softplastics (tubes mainly) but I might give it a try on a spinning MH/fast for heavier tubes (3/8 and over)
My actual Sahara 2500FE are 9.2oz
The new model Sahara 2500FI/3000HGFI are 8.8 and 2500 can hold 140yds of 8lbs and the 3000 170yds
My Sahara are binding when it's really hot and sunny outside, a well known Shimano flaw of these reel Gen. Some claim it's the friction ring, other claim it's the bushing deforming under heat and I changed it for a bearing in one of mines and IIRC it never binded. That being said, if I concentrate enough to do it consistently and close the bail by hand, it do not bind so... I think they've all corrected it on the new Gen though !
The KastKing is 8.4 in 2000 size. and 9.6 in 3000 size, 2000 can hold 150yds of 8lbs and 3000 210yds
So now I am wondering:
Did I choose the right size ? Will it compare with the Sahara, or even better, outperform them while being at least 20CAD$ cheaper ?
Thanks,
islandbass reply :
I think you answered your own question.
2500 Sahara holds 140 yds of 8# test
2000 Eagle holds 150 yds of 8# test
As a former engineer, we know that the real world is not ideal so when applicable and where tolerances aren’t demanding or necessary constraint we find reasonable approximations acceptable.
The difference between the spools is only 10 yds or 30’. If you ask me, it’s close enough and therefore good enough (ie, acceptable).
If that extra 30’ really bothers you, since I’m a “southerner” relative to your location, “I reckon you can cut it off, lol.”
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I hope you can give a review on the Reel after you’ve used it for a while. I never knew much about KK or looked at their stuff until very recently and I am finding their prices awfully compelling. As of late, my bait monkey has been trying the Jedi mind trick on me to pull the trigger on a few things.
GeekFisher reply :
I was more affraid about setup overall balance and casting ability than line capacity. As for the review it will be a full one (yes, including unboxing and general impressions, but not just that)
Since it will likely takes a few Weeks, I might have an hard time doing an honest review this season, as a Canadian my season is coming to an end. Will definitely be using both of them at my last tourney in October if I got them 
islandbass reply :
Season wise mine will soon end too. The answers to your questions will definitely be given after some time on the water. I’ll be looking forward to the review.
greentrout reply :
GeekFisher reply :
On 9/8/2018 at 11:40 AM, greentrout said:
Its an ugly and beautiful reel at the same time ! I might give it a try next year ! My 6.2:1 are doin ok actually
Russ E reply :
On 9/8/2018 at 11:40 AM, greentrout said:
Don't think it is on the market yet. if it is any were close to the quality of the speed demon pro baitcaster it will be a good reel. I own 1 Sharky II in 3000 size and 2 sharky III in 2000 size. they are all very nice reels.
greentrout reply :
Will be interesting to see what the IPT is....
good fishing...
Bluebasser86 reply :
I'm not sure what to think of that handle? I'd like to try one though. Not being able to keep up with shakyhead fish is a problem I'm really tired of having.
GeekFisher reply :
On 9/10/2018 at 4:36 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I'm not sure what to think of that handle? I'd like to try one though. Not being able to keep up with shakyhead fish is a problem I'm really tired of having.
The handle makes it ugly and kind of badass at the same time... They will cost more than the average KK reel though from what I read.
NYWayfarer reply :
On 9/11/2018 at 1:11 AM, GeekFisher said:The handle makes it ugly and kind of badass at the same time... They will cost more than the average KK reel though from what I read.
$89.98 for the 2000 size, $92.98 for the 3000 size.
GeekFisher reply :
On 9/11/2018 at 1:23 AM, NYWayfarer said:$89.98 for the 2000 size, $92.98 for the 3000 size.
Thanks sir. They do not seem to be available yet
NYWayfarer reply :
Google is your friend
https://www.ebay.com/i/192648972314?chn=ps&var=492790760766
On Kastking Fishing Ebay site with a 20% off code to boot.
The 3000 size is available as well.
GeekFisher reply :
On 9/11/2018 at 1:52 AM, NYWayfarer said:Google is your friend
https://www.ebay.com/i/192648972314?chn=ps&var=492790760766
On Kastking Fishing Ebay site with a 20% off code to boot.
The 3000 size is available as well.
Unable to order it, shipping to a Canadian address doesnt do the trick ???? @KastKingUSA
NYWayfarer reply :
On 9/10/2018 at 4:36 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I'm not sure what to think of that handle?
Looks like the same handle as the new Ike series Abu's.
Handles on spinning reels are the thing I find make or break the reel for me. If I constantly have to check the cap to make sure it is tight the reel loses some of its appeal to me. Kastking got it right with the Sharky III. That direct drive screw in handle is one of my favorite designs. I wish they would use it on more of their models.
My other favorite design is on a reel from a company that will remain nameless. Their creed model has a fantastic handle that I see Lew's has a similar version on their new Custom Speed Spin spinning reel. That reel is on my birthday wish list.
GeekFisher reply :
On 9/11/2018 at 3:27 AM, NYWayfarer said:Looks like the same handle as the new Ike series Abu's.
Handles on spinning reels are the thing I find make or break the reel for me. If I constantly have to check the cap to make sure it is tight the reel loses some of its appeal to me. Kastking got it right with the Sharky III. That direct drive screw in handle is one of my favorite designs. I wish they would use it on more of their models.
My other favorite design is on a reel from a company that will remain nameless. Their creed model has a fantastic handle that I see Lew's has a similar version on their new Custom Speed Spin spinning reel. That reel is on my birthday wish list.
I ordered it, will likely receive it before last season outing. Late October is probably not best time of year to try the so claimed "fastest spinning reel of the world" though ... I usually put on slower reels in October since I can't educate myself to reel way slower lol.
greentrout reply :
Amazon...
https://www.amazon.com/KastKing-Speed-Demon-Spinning-Blazing/dp/B07FMY8935
IPT 41.19
Russ E reply :
On 9/10/2018 at 4:36 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I'm not sure what to think of that handle? I'd like to try one though. Not being able to keep up with shakyhead fish is a problem I'm really tired of having.
shakyheads are my go to bait when fishing gets tough. trying to catch up with a fish that grabs the bait and swims right at you has always been a problem for me with this lure.
Ksatking has a 10% off coupon on their facebook page for the speed demon spinning reel.
I just bought one at Amazon.
https://www.facebook.com/kastking/
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 9/16/2018 at 12:26 AM, Russ E said:shakyheads are my go to bait when fishing gets tough. trying to catch up with a fish that grabs the bait and swims right at you has always been a problem for me with this lure.
Ksatking has a 10% off coupon on their facebook page for the speed demon spinning reel.
I just bought one at Amazon.
https://www.facebook.com/kastking/
I'm going to find out because I ordered a 2000 size of this reel and a 7' Speed Demon Pro "Shakyhead" rod to put it on this morning.
Russ E reply :
On 9/16/2018 at 1:44 AM, Bluebasser86 said:I'm going to find out because I ordered a 2000 size of this reel and a 7' Speed Demon Pro "Shakyhead" rod to put it on this morning.
i bought the same reel. I already have a speed demon shakyhead rod to put it on.
GeekFisher reply :
Should receive them today Can't wait to get my hands on
Russ E reply :
got my speed demon spinning reel today.
it is a 2000 series.
Put it on my speed demon pro rod. Loaded it with 10lb braid. Then decided to abuse it a bit in my backyard.
first thing I noticed is how smooth it was. no reel noise or vibration, whatsoever.
next I tied the line to my trailer hitch and commenced in abusing the drag. It is also butter smooth.
next thing I noticed was how quickly it picked up the line.
I did an unscientific comparison on inches per turn between my sharky III and the speed demon, using a tape measure.
they are both the same size and loaded with the same line.
the sharky III picks up 23 inches per turn.
the Speed Demon picks up 32 inches per turn.
Unfortunately can't hit the water for a couple days. I plan on putting it to the test ,with some shakyheads,on some fat Kansas bass.
I have heard a lot of people complain about grinding gears and reel noise with Kastking reels. I have not noticed that with my speed demon pro, Sharky III, or this speed demon spinning reel.
2 years ago I bought a Mela II that was questionable. it cost $29.00 and it was definitely a $29.00 reel. I don't think they even make it anymore. it sits in my lessons learned. box of shame for fishing gear.
I have an assasin that get noisy after a lot of use, but all it takes to fix that is, take a cotton swab and put a light coat of reel oil around the centrifugl brake ring.
I have to do the same thing with my pro qualifier.
GeekFisher reply :
On 9/19/2018 at 1:45 AM, Russ E said:got my speed demon spinning reel today.
it is a 2000 series.
Put it on my speed demon pro rod. Loaded it with 10lb braid. Then decided to abuse it a bit in my backyard.
first thing I noticed is how smooth it was. no reel noise or vibration, whatsoever.
next I tied the line to my trailer hitch and commenced in abusing the drag. It is also butter smooth.
next thing I noticed was how quickly it picked up the line.
I did an unscientific comparison on inches per turn between my sharky III and the speed demon, using a tape measure.
they are both the same size and loaded with the same line.
the sharky III picks up 23 inches per turn.
the Speed Demon picks up 32 inches per turn.
Unfortunately can't hit the water for a couple days. I plan on putting it to the test ,with some shakyheads,on some fat Kansas bass.
I have heard a lot of people complain about grinding gears and reel noise with Kastking reels. I have not noticed that with my speed demon pro, Sharky III, or this speed demon spinning reel.
2 years ago I bought a Mela II that was questionable. it cost $29.00 and it was definitely a $29.00 reel. I don't think they even make it anymore. it sits in my lessons learned. box of shame for fishing gear.
I have an assasin that get noisy after a lot of use, but all it takes to fix that is, take a cotton swab and put a light coat of reel oil around the centrifugl brake ring.
I have to do the same thing with my pro qualifier.
I received the Royale Legend Elite and the Valiant Eagle. Size 2000 is definitely what I wanted. I have a good feeling with the RLE but not so good with the Valiant Eagle. I Will spool Them and try Them next weekend. The Valiant Eagle got a screw with head damaged will have to look into that with Them.
Russ E reply :
On 9/19/2018 at 10:27 AM, GeekFisher said:I received the Royale Legend Elite and the Valiant Eagle. Size 2000 is definitely what I wanted. I have a good feeling with the RLE but not so good with the Valiant Eagle. I Will spool Them and try Them next weekend. The Valiant Eagle got a screw with head damaged will have to look into that with Them.
Their customer service is usually pretty good.
NYWayfarer reply :
More temptation, Sharky III Gold all metal edition reel
https://www.amazon.com/KastKing-Sharky-III-Fishing-Reel/dp/B07CTRGSKC?ref=ast_p_ep
Black and gold Sharky III with an aluminum body whats not to love.
GeekFisher reply :
On 9/19/2018 at 8:30 PM, NYWayfarer said:More temptation, Sharky III Gold all metal edition reel
https://www.amazon.com/KastKing-Sharky-III-Fishing-Reel/dp/B07CTRGSKC?ref=ast_p_ep
Black and gold Sharky III with an aluminum body whats not to love.
I will fish mine before ordering more but looks great!
Russ E reply :
On 9/19/2018 at 8:30 PM, NYWayfarer said:More temptation, Sharky III Gold all metal edition reel
https://www.amazon.com/KastKing-Sharky-III-Fishing-Reel/dp/B07CTRGSKC?ref=ast_p_ep
Black and gold Sharky III with an aluminum body whats not to love.
The new speed demon is basically a Sharky III with a faster gear ratio. both are great reels for the price.
NYWayfarer reply :
On 9/20/2018 at 4:29 AM, Russ E said:The new speed demon is basically a Sharky III with a faster gear ratio. both are great reels for the price.
The handle is different on the Speed Demon. I love the Sharky III's direct drive handle, it is my favorite spinning reel ATM
GeekFisher reply :
On 9/20/2018 at 4:29 AM, Russ E said:The new speed demon is basically a Sharky III with a faster gear ratio. both are great reels for the price.
All my KK are spooled and will likely get their first use this afternoon 
Russ E reply :
On 9/22/2018 at 7:04 PM, GeekFisher said:All my KK are spooled and will likely get their first use this afternoon
Fished my speed demon spinning reel against my sharky III reel yesterday. Fished a shakyhead for 3 hours.
Even though a cold front came through the night before, I managed to catch a dozen fish in the 1 to 2 lb range.
The speed demon feels about the same as my sharky III. The different handle was not that noticeable.
The only noticeable difference to me, was the speed demon picks up a lot of line in a hurry. Which is a good thing when shakyhead fishing.
Bluebasser86 reply :
Caught several up to almost 3 pounds on my Speed Demon combo Friday, felt really nice. The handle looks better in person than it does in pictures, I just hope those screws stay put. I think the reel feels more solid than the Sharky III does. I sure does pick line up in a hurry, I really like that. The rod is very nice but I was sure it would be after having a casting Speed Demon rod.
GeekFisher reply :
I caught my first fish on a KK reel. The spinning us noisy on retrieves and the BC I tried was really smooth ! Cast easy and few backlashes. Im relatively new to baitcasting so. Backlashes were when casting against wind.
Russ E reply :
On 9/23/2018 at 8:01 PM, GeekFisher said:I caught my first fish on a KK reel.
I have not personally had any noise with the sharky III or speed demon spinning reels.
For baitcasters, I personally own a speed demon pro and a couple assasins. if they are setup right, it is actually pretty hard to get much of a backlash.
GeekFisher reply :
On 9/23/2018 at 11:51 PM, Russ E said:I have not personally had any noise with the sharky III or speed demon spinning reels.
For baitcasters, I personally own a speed demon pro and a couple assasins. if they are setup right, it is actually pretty hard to get much of a backlash.
I tried my Assassin as well this morning ! Little harder to dial in but once done, cast like a champ and weight next to nothing
Russ E reply :
On 9/24/2018 at 2:58 AM, GeekFisher said:I tried my Assassin as well this morning ! Little harder to dial in but once done, cast like a champ and weight next to nothing
One quirk I have had with the assassins is, occasionally they get a little noisy and i start losing casting distance.
To fix this, take off the sideplate and lightly oil the centrifugal brake ring with a cotton swab coated with reel oil.
greentrout reply :
GeekFisher reply :
On 9/29/2018 at 9:52 AM, greentrout said:
Can't wait to try mine !
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 9/30/2018 at 5:20 AM, GeekFisher said:Can't wait to try mine !
Really liking mine. It's noticeably faster than any other spinning reel I own. It's very solid and smooth (unfortunately the only thing I've tested the drag on is a big drum so far). I've used it for a micro finesse jig, shakyhead, and wacky rig and it did all well matched with the 7' shakyhead rod.
GeekFisher reply :
On 9/30/2018 at 12:57 PM, Bluebasser86 said:Really liking mine. It's noticeably faster than any other spinning reel I own. It's very solid and smooth (unfortunately the only thing I've tested the drag on is a big drum so far). I've used it for a micro finesse jig, shakyhead, and wacky rig and it did all well matched with the 7' shakyhead rod.
I'll fish the Eagle Valiant and the other kk baitcasters today Drag on the Valiant is strong, not as smooth as the Shimano's but close enough.
greentrout reply :
On 9/30/2018 at 5:20 AM, GeekFisher said:Can't wait to try mine !
lookin' forward to your review...
good fishing...
GeekFisher reply :
On 9/24/2018 at 3:41 AM, Russ E said:One quirk I have had with the assassins is, occasionally they get a little noisy and i start losing casting distance.
To fix this, take off the sideplate and lightly oil the centrifugal brake ring with a cotton swab coated with reel oil.
I opened the side but I'm not sure which ring you are talking about ? It's noisier since I set the centrifugal brake for sure !
Russ E reply :
On 10/10/2018 at 9:47 AM, GeekFisher said:I opened the side but I'm not sure which ring you are talking about ? It's noisier since I set the centrifugal brake for sure !
inside the brass ring of the side plate, is where the brake pads drag, when the spool speed goes too fast.
you can usually see a black ring around the inside where the brakes are dragging. i run a light coat of oil around the inside of this ring about once a month.
GeekFisher reply :
I just received my Speed Demon spinning reel. Its nicer in real than the pictures. Might give it a try Saturday !
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 10/12/2018 at 8:12 AM, GeekFisher said:I just received my Speed Demon spinning reel. Its nicer in real than the pictures. Might give it a try Saturday
I felt the same way. I was unsure from the pictures and videos but after actually getting my hands on one, it was much nicer than I expected and very smooth. Handles fish nicely too
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