SLX vs Fuego CT for Frogging 2024
garroyo130 reply :
Looking to set up a combo to throw into the thicker stuff. Which reel would be better suited for frogging/pitching/flipping?
All input appreciated.
MN Fisher reply :
You'll get people who say one, others who'll say the other.
One thing mostly common - FAST reel.
I use a Fuego CT in the 8.1:1 ratio.
garroyo130 reply :
Aside from a fast reel, anything else to look for/consider?
MN Fisher reply :
Metal frame
SLX advertises as "Hagane" - which means 'steel' in Japanese...though I think it's probably aluminum for the weight
Fuego has an aluminum frame.
Any other metal-frame reels with a high IPT (inches of line retrieved per turn of the handle) - high gear ratio doesn't always give a high IPT
SLX - 8.2:1 ratio - 32IPT
Fuego - 8.1:1 ratio - 33.9IPT
Oh - in a pinch I could probably use my Pflueger President...7.3:1 ratio but 31IPT...but it's a 'plastic' frame reel, so probably not.
johnD. reply :
I'm gonna say fuego , for the higher bearing count on the crankshaft. I had both , still own the fuego.
garroyo130 reply :
On 1/28/2020 at 10:36 AM, johnD. said:I'm gonna say fuego , for the higher bearing count on the crankshaft. I had both , still own the fuego.
What made you ditch the SLX?
johnD. reply :
On 1/28/2020 at 10:42 AM, garroyo130 said:What made you ditch the SLX?
I used it for flipping and it didn't last. Fuego and Tatulas are still going strong.
MN Fisher reply :
On 1/28/2020 at 10:46 AM, johnD. said:Fuego and Tatulas are still going strong.
Since at their core, the Fuego CT and the Tatula CT are the same reel...I don't doubt it.
johnD. reply :
On 1/28/2020 at 10:48 AM, MN Fisher said:Since at their core, the Fuego CT and the Tatula CT are the same reel...I don't doubt it.
Exactly.
garroyo130 reply :
On 1/28/2020 at 10:46 AM, johnD. said:I used it for flipping and it didn't last. Fuego and Tatulas are still going strong.
Did the gears strip? What exactly happened? I havent heard of issues with SLX so I'm curious what to look out for.
johnD. reply :
On 1/28/2020 at 10:52 AM, garroyo130 said:Did the gears strip? What exactly happened? I havent heard of issues with SLX so I'm curious what to look out for.
Gears got rough , the reel was not smooth after a couple of months.
swhit140 reply :
I have 5 of the Fuego CT reels and have been very happy with mine. You can go 7:3:1 or 8:1:1, take your pick.
zell_pop1 reply :
I have both a Fuego ct and a SLX. Both are great but I would pick the Fuego for the heavier line/lures for Froggin, and i would go 7.3-1 for gear ratio.
ww2farmer reply :
On 1/28/2020 at 10:36 AM, johnD. said:I'm gonna say fuego , for the higher bearing count on the crankshaft. I had both , still own the fuego.
Same here. The SLX just didn't "do-it" for me. I'm sure it's a fine reel. I used mine for one full season, and sold it. I still have, and am buying more Fuego CT's
kayaking_kev reply :
I have the SLX, SLX XT, SLX DC, but the Fuego CT is the one I bought in 8.1.1 gear ratio for frogging. I like the Fuego's external braking control better than the internal on the regular SLX and the handle does turn a lot more freely on the Fuego.
Hammer 4 reply :
8: 1...Diawa Fuego..Great reel.
PourMyOwn reply :
I also own both and the Fuego is a better reel at the end of year 2 than the SLX was after 3 months.
garroyo130 reply :
Wow ... Thanks to all of you for the insight. Everything seemed to tell me that the SLX and Fuego were basically equals but this thread has really shed some light on things. Maybe its time to ****** up some Fuegos while theyre still available.
Dangerfield reply :
I prefer the Fuego over the Tatula. I don't care for the shiny finish or the bearings in the handle. I bought both at the same time and the spinning the knobs is the same on both reels. (bearings v. bushings.)
I'll be buying Fuegos only going forward, super cheap reel that's deserves that underrate title.
redmeansdistortion reply :
I just sold a few of my Ambassadeurs and replaced them with Fuegos. I got one each in the 6.3, 7.3, and 8.1 ratios. I still have plenty of cash left from the sale of my Abus so now I may go rod shopping next. Am I turning into a Daiwa fanboy?
garroyo130 reply :
On 1/28/2020 at 11:10 PM, redmeansdistortion said:I just sold a few of my Ambassadeurs and replaced them with Fuegos. I got one each in the 6.3, 7.3, and 8.1 ratios. I still have plenty of cash left from the sale of my Abus so now I may go rod shopping next. Am I turning into a Daiwa fanboy?
You don't have any 5.5:1 fuegos? ????
MN Fisher reply :
On 1/28/2020 at 11:10 PM, redmeansdistortion said:Am I turning into a Daiwa fanboy?
I'm halfway there - 2 Fuegos, a President and a Supreme are my current BC lineup
On 1/28/2020 at 11:14 PM, garroyo130 said:You don't have any 5.5:1 fuegos?
I don't know if I'd want a 5-speed reel...though if I wanted to try it again, I've got my old Ambassaduer 500R sitting around...5.3:1
redmeansdistortion reply :
On 1/28/2020 at 11:18 PM, MN Fisher said:I don't know if I'd want a 5-speed reel...though if I wanted to try it again, I've got my old Ambassaduer 500R sitting around...5.3:1
The 6.3 Fuego brings in the same amount of line per turn as a 5.3 Ambassadeur, about 26".
MN Fisher reply :
On 1/28/2020 at 11:21 PM, redmeansdistortion said:The 6.3 Fuego brings in the same amount of line per turn as a 5.3 Ambassadeur, about 26".
You talking a near 30 year old 500R, or a newer Ambassaduer?
Tizi reply :
I love my Fuegos. I also have a few SLX reels, but not for frogging. For frogging, I use the Fuego CT in 8.1:1. Another option is the Tatula 100 or 150.
redmeansdistortion reply :
On 1/28/2020 at 11:24 PM, MN Fisher said:You talking a near 30 year old 500R, or a newer Ambassaduer?
The older ones were about 25" per turn, it went up recently when Abu switched to the higher capacity spools.
Dangerfield reply :
On 1/28/2020 at 11:14 PM, garroyo130 said:You don't have any 5.5:1 fuegos? ????
Nope, my 5.1 is a Tatula 100P
garroyo130 reply :
8.1 Fuego purchased ... at $65 I'd say its a solid deal
Shimano_1 reply :
They're both great reels. Id guess that an slx getting rough after a cple months was either a lemon or abused. I've had both and the slx was a much more comfortable reel to fish with, the Fuego has a lil easier braking system and feels like a tank. Either one would serve u just fine for frogging or most anything else.
garroyo130 reply :
*BUMP*
So now that I have the reel, what rod would you recommend on a budget? Obviously with my reel options, I'm trying to go cheap so I'd prefer cheaper alternatives to the typical Dobyns Fury recommendations.
MN Fisher reply :
On 2/7/2020 at 10:56 AM, garroyo130 said:*BUMP*
So now that I have the reel, what rod would you recommend on a budget? Obviously with my reel options, I'm trying to go cheap so I'd prefer cheaper alternatives to the typical Dobyns Fury recommendations.
Well, down from the Fury - you can keep to Dobyns and get a Colt ($80) - A CL704C or CL734C...both are H/F rods, 7'0" and 7'3" respectively.
Or down a bit more to the rod I use for frogging - Diawa Aird-X ($55) - AIRX701HFB...H/F and 7'0"
I was well satisfied with my Aird-X for not only frogs, but pitch/flip and heavy jigs/T-Rigs as well.
garroyo130 reply :
On 2/7/2020 at 11:04 AM, MN Fisher said:Well, down from the Fury - you can keep to Dobyns and get a Colt ($80) - A CL704C or CL734C...both are H/F rods, 7'0" and 7'3" respectively.
Or down a bit more to the rod I use for frogging - Diawa Aird-X ($55) - AIRX701HFB...H/F and 7'0"
I was well satisfied with my Aird-X for not only frogs, but pitch/flip and heavy jigs/T-Rigs as well.
Might be a stupid question but I haven't used braid in a long time.
How do those guides hold up?
Is guide grooving with braid no longer a concern or does 4 vs 8 carrier make a difference?
MN Fisher reply :
On 2/7/2020 at 11:07 AM, garroyo130 said:Might be a stupid question but I haven't used braid in a long time.
How do those guides hold up?
Is guide grooving with braid no longer a concern or does 4 vs 8 carrier make a difference?
Well, I used 50# Power Pro on the H/F Aird-X and 20# Power Pro on my MH/F Aird-X and I didn't find any grooving on either at my end-of-year check...so they held up well. That's all I've used, so I don't know about the difference between 4 and 8 carrier.
PhishLI reply :
Lew's CF73HC. I use one. I fish heavy cover often. This stick has held up great. 50lb and 65lb J Braid since day one. Good for other baits too. $79. On sale for $49 now.
garroyo130 reply :
On 2/7/2020 at 11:31 AM, PhishLI said:Lew's CF73HC. I use one. I fish heavy cover often. This stick has held up great. 50lb and 65lb J Braid since day one. Good for other baits too. $79. On sale for $49 now.
Is that a Dicks exclusive?
PhishLI reply :
yes
Hammer 4 reply :
Have a look at the Diawa Tatula XT rods, they run $ 99.00 to 119.99 depending on which rod you buy. I have 3 of them, and am very happy with them..oh, and they are super light, and sensitive..
https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Daiwa_Tatula_XT_Casting_Rods/descpage-XTS.html
BaitFinesse reply :
On 2/7/2020 at 10:56 AM, garroyo130 said:*BUMP*
So now that I have the reel, what rod would you recommend on a budget? Obviously with my reel options, I'm trying to go cheap so I'd prefer cheaper alternatives to the typical Dobyns Fury recommendations.
Heavy powered current gen Berkley Lightning Rod. H powered models are hard to find in physical stores but they do exist. BCLR701H
OnthePotomac reply :
On 1/28/2020 at 11:01 AM, johnD. said:Gears got rough , the reel was not smooth after a couple of months.
Wow, rough gears after a couple of months is interesting. Of course each reel is different, but my SLX XG with the brass micro gear did battle with the tidal Potomac gnarly grass beds all last summer and is just as smooth now as the day it came out of the box, but I did use Shimano ACE2 or Cal's drag greases on the micro gears, which Shimano recommends for a smooth operation. The VR SS high speed bearings I installed have made it an even more terrific little reel. Still love my K's and Chronarchs for really fun fishing tools.
On 1/28/2020 at 9:56 AM, garroyo130 said:Looking to set up a combo to throw into the thicker stuff. Which reel would be better suited for frogging/pitching/flipping?
All input appreciated.
Curado K XG
garroyo130 reply :
On 2/11/2020 at 1:02 AM, OnthePotomac said:my SLX XG with the brass micro gear
I thought only the SLX DC had micromodule gearing?
PhishLI reply :
I beat my Fuego CT 8 speed like a dog while frog fishing choked pads fields for 2 seasons. It's still smooth on the retrieve.
garroyo130 reply :
On 2/11/2020 at 1:43 AM, PhishLI said:I beat my Fuego CT 8 speed like a dog while frog fishing choked pads fields for 2 seasons. It's still smooth on the retrieve.
Thats what I picked up. Still waiting to get the rod for it but I'll get a chance to break the reel in this weekend.
OnthePotomac reply :
On 2/11/2020 at 1:34 AM, garroyo130 said:I thought only the SLX DC had micromodule gearing?
The SLX XG is 8.1:1 brass micro drive gear and pinion
PourMyOwn reply :
On 2/7/2020 at 11:31 AM, PhishLI said:Lew's CF73HC. I use one. I fish heavy cover often. This stick has held up great. 50lb and 65lb J Braid since day one. Good for other baits too. $79. On sale for $49 now.
Carbon Fire is a good rod, hard not to buy one for $49. I think I got mine for either 39 or 49 last year. I have also used nothing but braid on mine.
garroyo130 reply :
On 2/11/2020 at 1:49 AM, OnthePotomac said:The SLX XG is 8.1:1 brass micro drive gear and pinion
Can't find anything that states this. Everything says only SLX DC has the micromod ... hmmm.
OnthePotomac reply :
Here is what I meant. Yes, only the 200K XG (8.5:1) and the DC has what Shimano describes as having a (micro module), which only describes the number of teeth on the drive gear with matching pinion for the really high speed (8.5:1) but what I am referring to is the XG models in the 70 XG (8.2:1), Chronarch MGL XG (8.1:1) and the SLX XG (8.2:1) also have a micro gear configuration to get the XG high speed. They just don't qualify to be called a (Micro module) by virtue of the number of teeth (maybe a marketing ploy by Shimano) If you look at a 70XG,MGL XG and an SLX XG drive gear next to a 200K micromodule drive gear is hard to tell the difference at first glance. Hope this helps.
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