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Is 30Lb Braid Overkill 2024


fishing user avatar1099gl reply : 

I just bought 30 pound test yellow power pro for my spinning rod. I was told by one of my buddies that it was overkill and that most people have 15 pound braid does it matter that much?


fishing user avatarABW reply : 

You won't be able to spool up as much 30 lb braid on as you can 15 lb.


fishing user avatarPenguino reply : 

On spinning reels I would stay with 20lb braid.. but 30lb braid should work. Keep in mind that you might lose some casting distance.


fishing user avatarDarren. reply : 

Personally, yes, for bass fishing. But that's me.

 

I choose 10lb Power Pro and it has hauled in 

waterlogged tree branches several inches in

diameter.

 

That said, if I bought some, I'd use it. I'm not 

deriding your purchase, it is just that I have 

decided that for my needs, 10 is sufficient, and 

15 would be heavy.

 

I use 20 on bait casting reels... 


fishing user avatarmprestonSEK reply : 

30lb on a spinning reel is not ideal for me. 10 or 15lb is what I prefer to use. The size of your reel will play a big role in the castability of 30lb braid. If your reel is 2500 or larger than you should be okay.  


fishing user avatarFelix77 reply : 

FWIW - The max I will put on my spinning is 15lb.


fishing user avatarMike2841 reply : 

If you already spooled it up it doesn't matter that much, as long as you have enough lime on there you'll be fine. Personally I use 15-20lb on my spinning reels and that puts enough on there to last 2-3 years.


fishing user avatarA-Jay reply : 

10 - 20 lb braid is what's on the spinning reels for most of my bass fishing.

 

The 30 lb goes on casting reels.

 

A-Jay


fishing user avatarQUAKEnSHAKE reply : 

Id take advantage of the thinness/strength of braid on a spinning reel. Meaning I go to 8-10# braid. A person would use just 8# mono fluoro on a spinning reel yet 8# braid most likely will be stronger. I dont even use high pound braid on baitcasters all but one has 10-15-20# braid. 

So to me yes 30# is overkill by about 20# :wink2:


fishing user avatarWayne P. reply : 

I use superlines by their diameters, not by their breaking strength. Been using superlines since the Stren Kevlar and first edition Spiderwire.

 

At a minimum I use 20# rated for clear water/open water and small bass, several have 30# rated and most have 40# rated. The largest diameter is 8# mono equivelent diameter. Smaller stuff has very little shock strength.

 

For baitcasting small stuff like topwater and Traps, I use 30# and most of my others have 50# and higher rated strengths. The 50# is 10# mono equivelant diameter.


fishing user avatarColdSVT reply : 
  On 4/21/2015 at 5:26 AM, A-Jay said:

10 - 20 lb braid is what's on the spinning reels for most of my bass fishing.

The 30 lb goes on casting reels.

A-Jay

Yessir!


fishing user avatarKevin22 reply : 

10# for dropshot. 15-20 for weightless baits and shakey heads.

30# on casters.


fishing user avatarflyfisher reply : 

i used 8lb diameter PP for a few seasons and only recently changed to 6lb diameter more to just try it out.  The one advantage to the slightly heavier is that it won't take as much to fill your spool which potentially could get you more respools.  As far as catching goes, i haven't noticed any difference.


fishing user avatargulfcaptain reply : 

I wouldn't get much on the spinning reels I use if I put 30lb braid on them....maybe 60 yards if I was lucky, but more line 40 maybe.  Fish most of mine with 10lb, 20 would be the most and on a bigger spinning outfit.  But like most 30 goes on my baitcasters.    But try it out and if you like it fish with it.  These are just our opinions.


fishing user avatarkikstand454 reply : 

Seems to me that 30# power pro says its 8# mono diameter.

Does your reel have sufficient space for your needs at 8# diameter?

I'm sure it does. Fish on, my friend !


fishing user avatarFishTank reply : 

Depending on the size of spinning reel, I would say it would be overkill for the average size bass reel.  I prefer 15-20lb braid when I use it on a spinning reel.  I like 30-50 lb for casting reels.


fishing user avatarRoLo reply : 

For the past several years, 30-lb braid has been the workhorse on both my casting gear and spinning gear.

 

IMO, it's better to compare fishing line based on line diameter instead of breaking test.   Let me explain:

The diameter of 20-lb braid is 0.009" (9/1000"), and the diameter of 30-lb braid is 0.011".

The difference between 20 and 30-lb braid is 0.002", half the mean diameter of a human hair. 

But here's the upshot. The diameter of 30-lb Seaguar Smackdown braid is 0.009" (9/1000"),

which is the same diameter as 20-lb braid marketed by Power Pro, Sufix, etc. (Checkout the specs) 

 

Roger


fishing user avatarihfarmboy-1066 reply : 

To me 30lb braid on a bass fishing spinning outfit is overkill I say this because I'm a big salt water Fisher and I use it on my surf reels and on my off shore tuna reels I use 30-100lb braid. But I just got into bass fishing late last year so I really can't say to much as on bass fishing with it but I do use 30lb braid on my baitcasting outfits and on my spinning outfit I use 8lb braid


fishing user avatarzeth reply : 

It'll work but you may run into line management issues such as wind knots with heavier braid. Also reduced casting distance. I have nothing above 10lb braid on my spinning reels and I always use a leader.


fishing user avatarSirSnookalot reply : 

I don't think 30# is overkill for bass spinning gear, but it isn't to my liking.  Braid has no memory so line management isn't an issue, nor would line capacity be a problem.  I wouldn't worry too much about a loss in distance, most of my bass casts are probably no more than 15 yds or so.  If you use a leader, which I always do, the strength of 30# braid is negated because you most likely be using a much lighter leader.  A stronger line with a thinner diameter IMO is only an advantage if line capacity is needed, which really isn't a requirement for bass fishing.


fishing user avatarCapt.Bob reply : 
  On 4/21/2015 at 5:26 AM, A-Jay said:

10 - 20 lb braid is what's on the spinning reels for most of my bass fishing.

 

The 30 lb goes on casting reels.

 

A-Jay

X2 thats the way I do it, and always use leaders, mono or fluoro, tied 6' or longer and never use a heavier leader than the rod is rated for,,,,,, but spinning 15 or 20 lbs. would give better everything, casting distance, feel, bait action, what I really like about using no heavier line than necessary is how much deeper and faster your whole rig operates with less weight when rigging, like drop shots, light jig's, Carolina and Texas rigs and the sorts.


fishing user avatarjtesch reply : 

Remember 30# Power pro has a true break point more like 40# so yeah might be a little heavy, I run 20# Samurai and that's about perfect


fishing user avatarRoLo reply : 
  On 4/21/2015 at 1:16 PM, zeth said:

It'll work but you may run into line management issues such as wind knots with heavier braid. Also reduced casting distance. I have nothing above 10lb braid on my spinning reels and I always use a leader.

 

On the contrary, the lighter the braided line, the limper and more susceptible it becomes

to both 'wind knots' and 'line burrowing'. I've used 20-lb braid for years before moving up to 30-lb braid.

Moving from 20 to 30 virtually eliminated wind knots and as far as "line burrowing" is concerned,

I'd forget it even exists if I didn't hear it mentioned.

 

Roger


fishing user avatarArv reply : 

I bought a used spinning reel that had 30# Suffix on it if I remember correctly. I still have the same reel and never changed the line. My other reels have gotten 10-20# braid, but the 30# never proved to be an issue so its still on there.


fishing user avatarMickD reply : 

It's not about how much line you can put onto a reel.  If you have enough to make the casts you want, you're OK.  When has a bass taken you into the backing?  Or more than a few yards on a run?

 

The advantage of lower pound test braid (or any other line) is in how they cast and how manageable they are on the reel.  While 30 Power Pro can be cast pretty well on  a spinning outfit, 10 or 15 will be significantly better.  

 

It is up to you whether you want to leave it on and deal with some sacrifice, or replace it with lower test line and get the advantages of it.  30 works great on baitcasting outfits.  Don't just scrap it; you will find a good use for it someday-it lasts forever in dark storage.


fishing user avatarCapt.Bob reply : 
  On 4/22/2015 at 4:19 AM, RoLo said:

On the contrary, the lighter the braided line, the limper and more susceptible it becomes

to both 'wind knots' and 'line burrowing'. I've used 20-lb braid for years before moving up to 30-lb braid.

Moving from 20 to 30 virtually eliminated wind knots and as far as "line burrowing" is concerned,

I'd forget it exists if I didn't hear it mentioned.

 

Roger

I have used 6 lbs test braid on spinning gear and never had an issue with line "burrowing" on spinning gear, but this is exactly why I use 30 lbs test instead of 20 lbs test on most of my baitcast reels, the ones that don't get 30 lbs get heavier,,,,,,


fishing user avatarzeth reply : 
  On 4/22/2015 at 4:19 AM, RoLo said:

On the contrary, the lighter the braided line, the limper and more susceptible it becomes

to both 'wind knots' and 'line burrowing'. I've used 20-lb braid for years before moving up to 30-lb braid.

Moving from 20 to 30 virtually eliminated wind knots and as far as "line burrowing" is concerned,

I'd forget it exists if I didn't hear it mentioned.

 

Roger

Yet I get more wind knots with heavier braid so that's just how it is for me and the heavier stuff really not necessary on spinning reel IMO.


fishing user avatarwuchr20 reply : 

I would only use 10 lb braid for a spinning reel.  A baitcasting reel is a different story.


fishing user avatarRoLo reply : 
  On 4/22/2015 at 12:01 PM, zeth said:

Yet I get more wind knots with heavier braid so that's just how it is for me and the heavier stuff really not necessary on spinning reel IMO.

 

It's really more about line diameter than breaking test, and more about the cover you fish than the fish you target.

I don't perceive 30-lb braid as heavy line, it's only 0.011" in diameter and casts a mile (longer casts I don't need). 

In Florida, we typically fish in dense vegetation where 30 lb braid might be pushing your luck.

The diameter of 30-lb braid is the same as 8 lb mono, so there's not much line material for abrasion-resistance.

For this reason, I use 60-lb braid for mat-punching and frogging, which is still a lighter line than 17-lb mono.

 

Roger


fishing user avatarAlpha Male reply : 

I have 30lb PP on a spinning reel. granted its an old shimano solstace 4000 size so it holds a lot of line. it works fine and casts plenty far.  Granted I do agree with most other that 8-15lb braid is very strong.


fishing user avatarhatrix reply : 

You know 39# PP is the diamater of 8# line and that is well in range with a average spinning reel. There is nothing wrong with having 30# you will be just fine. I have a couple spinning reels with 30 on them but most have 20# as that is what I usuly run.


fishing user avatarWPCfishing reply : 
  On 4/22/2015 at 12:43 PM, RoLo said:

It's really more about line diameter than breaking test, and more about the cover you fish than the fish you target.

I don't perceive 30-lb braid as heavy line, it's only 0.011" in diameter and casts a mile (longer casts I don't need). 

In Florida, we typically fish in dense vegetation where 30 lb braid might be pushing your luck.

The diameter of 30-lb braid is the same as 8 lb mono, so there's not much line material for abrasion-resistance.

For this reason, I use 60-lb braid for mat-punching and frogging, which is still a lighter line than 17-lb mono.

 

Roger

 

I just bought my first spool of braid. I opted for Sufix 832 65#. I'll be using it stricking for pitching and flipping. I like a heavier diameter line for this type of fishing. The 65# is .17

I had been using 20# P-Line CX which is also so .17, I think I'll be fine with it. It's very limp braid.


fishing user avatarEmersonFish reply : 

I use lighter braid. Prefer the "feel" of it on spinning gear as I tend to be using finesse baits, but that's a personal preference thing. As far as line capacity? Unless you are using an ultra-light, or are vertically fishing in some extremely deep water, 30# won't be an issue. Strength overkill? 15 and 20 pound braid probably qualifies for that 99% of the time as well, and since when is line being "too strong" a huge problem, particularly if you are using a leader? Line manageability? If anything, a larger diameter line would be less likely to be a pain in the neck, although casting distance will suffer, and your line-to-line knots will be a little thicker, which can be annoying if you have small diameter guides.

I say see how you like working with it. Getting into the braid game is going to take a little trial and error. You can see by this one thread that everyone has their own preferences. If you end up not liking it on your spinning reel, you can put backing on a casting reel and use the 30# braid to top it off.


fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 

30 works fine on spinning. I generally pick 20# though. I do have one that has 30 on it.


fishing user avatarnew2BC4bass reply : 
  On 5/22/2015 at 1:38 AM, WPCfishing said:

I just bought my first spool of braid. I opted for Sufix 832 65#. I'll be using it stricking for pitching and flipping. I like a heavier diameter line for this type of fishing. The 65# is .17

I had been using 20# P-Line CX which is also so .17, I think I'll be fine with it. It's very limp braid.

 

According to TW's website, 65# Sufix braid is .016 diameter and equivalent to 17# mono.  .17 is between 5/16 inch and 3/16 inch....little large for bass fishing.  :teeth:  I assume you meant17# not .17  :eyebrows:

 

OP:  I asked for recommendations on which weight braid to use on my MH Worm & Jig spinning rod.  Majority of suggestions was for 30# braid, so that is what I put on it.  I don't consider 30# braid overkill for bass when lots of people use 65# braid.  Like stated.  Cover and and technique are more important in deciding what weight you want to use....not the size of the fish.   Even then it is up to you.  If you want to use 100# braid for bass, it is no ones business but yours.


fishing user avatarRoLo reply : 
  On 5/22/2015 at 5:30 AM, J Francho said:

30 works fine on spinning. I generally pick 20# though. I do have one that has 30 on it.

 

In my opinion, it's more about 'line diameter', and less about 'breaking test'.

 

For example, if a spinning outfit is spooled with 20-lb Power Pro, the line diameter will be 0.009".

If another spinning outfit is spooled with 30-lb Seaguar Smackdown, the line diameter will still be 0.009".

Hypothetically, both the 20-lb & 30-lb outfits will offer the same casting distance, running depth & abrasion-resistance.

 

Roger


fishing user avatarNice_Bass reply : 

I have had the same braid on my spinning reels so long i forget what it even is lol. Most likely 20 or lower powerpro but i think lower.

Only i think i have had 80# pp on a couple rods for almost 5 years. Musky setups that dont get used as often.


fishing user avatarWPCfishing reply : 
  On 5/22/2015 at 7:03 AM, new2BC4bass said:

According to TW's website, 65# Sufix braid is .016 diameter and equivalent to 17# mono.  .17 is between 5/16 inch and 3/16 inch....little large for bass fishing.  :teeth:  I assume you meant17# not .17  :eyebrows:

 

OP:  I asked for recommendations on which weight braid to use on my MH Worm & Jig spinning rod.  Majority of suggestions was for 30# braid, so that is what I put on it.  I don't consider 30# braid overkill for bass when lots of people use 65# braid.  Like stated.  Cover and and technique are more important in deciding what weight you want to use....not the size of the fish.   Even then it is up to you.  If you want to use 100# braid for bass, it is no ones business but yours.

 

opps, I did! 


fishing user avatarSirSnookalot reply : 

My approach is slightly different, my line matches my rod as well as the reel matching the rod.  The combo I use is mainly predicated on the water I'm fishing, not the species, in other words I'm using a little beefier out fit in heavier vegetation.

This is exactly how I do it :

Light power 4/10 rod, size 25 reel 10# braid

Ml power 6/12 rod size 30 reel 10# braid

Med power 8/17 rod size 35-40 reel 15# braid

Mh power 10/20 rod size 40 reel 20# braid

Heavy 25-40 power size 6-7-8000 30# braid

 

Since I don't use an 8000 reel for bass and peacock fishing, 30# is overkill for me, but it may not be for some one else.

My top side is 15# in freshwater, 20# inshore, 30# offshore.




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