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I bought a spool of spiderwire line today and before I use some of it I would like to know if the ratings are really what they say. It states 15lb test 6lb Dia. equiv. I got the 300' spool for $12.84. I plan on using it on my bait casting rod.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Spiderwire-EZ-Braid-Superline-Line-Spool-300-Yards-0-008-Diameter-15-lbs-Break-Strength-Moss-Green/21578718

It is .008 diameter. Not sure how skilled you are with a baitcaster or what you will be tossing, but I'm not going to attempt to fish 15 lb braid on a baitcaster and I consider myself pretty skilled with one.

So .008 is too thin? 

IMO it is for a baitcaster. I am sure some guys here will tell you they do it all the time with no problems, but don't always believe what you read on the internet.

At least 50 lb braid on a baitcaster.i would also go with a quality 8 strand braid .

15lb braid is great on a spinning rod, but way too thin for a baitcaster. 

At least 30lb, 40-50lb if your new and still learning how to use a baitcaster. I personally use 30lb most of the time. 

So maybe I'll keep it for my ultra light spinning rig. I just spooled it with 4lb mono but I already bought it so may as well use it. 

Tin fore on the 50lb  raided. 

Lowest I'll go on a baitcaster is 20 lb and I only use that for my cranking.

I've used 10# a lot on baitcasters, 8# once. I hate Spiderwire though.

30lb braid is the lowest I go on a baitcaster. Anything lower than that goes on a spinning reel.

I go down to 6lb braid with baitcasters. There is no problem at all with using this weight. The real problem is when it is windy, it is very difficult to tie with thin wet 6lb braid.

  On 3/20/2019 at 9:57 PM, CrankFate said:

I go down to 6lb braid with baitcasters. There is no problem at all with using this weight.

You must be using close to 300 yards of line to fill a baitcasting spool up with that thin of line...

There is a large group of folks that fish under 10# braid on baitcasters. I am one of them. BFS is still new to this country but with the right gear fishing light braid with the right rod and reel is a real pleasure-Picking out a birdnest in 6# braid is not............

  On 3/20/2019 at 10:10 PM, fishballer06 said:

 

You must be using close to 300 yards of line to fill a baitcasting spool up with that thin of line...

I would say up to 200 yards when I am looking for max distance, but I usually use thin line to up the capacity on small spools.

  On 3/20/2019 at 10:10 PM, fishballer06 said:

 

You must be using close to 300 yards of line to fill a baitcasting spool up with that thin of line...

I use lots of cheap mono backing.

  On 3/20/2019 at 10:44 PM, onenutinthewater said:

with the right gear fishing light braid with the right rod and reel is a real pleasure-Picking out a birdnest in 6# braid is not............

No, but it’s better then having your fancy spoon fly into the sunset becuase your 2lb mono snapped 50’ into the spool becuase someone used some harsh language near it that one time....

It took a lot of lost spoons to get me to use thin braid over thin mono but I am never going back. 

It's best to do research before purchasing something. No way would you want line that thin on a baitcaster if you knew better. If you have a spinning rod that needs line, keep it. If not, return it for 40lb and put that on the baitcaster.

  On 3/20/2019 at 10:44 PM, onenutinthewater said:

There is a large group of folks that fish under 10# braid on baitcasters. I am one of them. BFS is still new to this country but with the right gear fishing light braid with the right rod and reel is a real pleasure-Picking out a birdnest in 6# braid is not............

Super slick V2 #10 works great. roughly 80 yards directly tied to the spool. BFS shallow spool works great, Birdnest are not fun with that thin of line. Cheap mono backing if you need to take space. 

For years I was a 10 and 20 lb braid on a BC and last year I bumped to30 and 40 and are much happier......I use Gamma, 832 and Hitena.

Personally I’d go with a higher test brace. I use 30 on some of my bait fast rods but that’s as low as I go. You may like the feel of the 15# but thats my recommendation.

Sorry for late response. I returned the line and exchanged it for 50lb test with I think 12lb Dia. 

I have heard of some filling the reel with part mono then attaching the braid to that. Is it worth doing or should that be avoided? 

  On 4/24/2019 at 10:40 PM, bigone5500 said:

Is it worth doing or should that be avoided?

Some mono backer is required to prevent the braid slipping on the spool.

  On 4/24/2019 at 10:40 PM, bigone5500 said:

Sorry for late response. I returned the line and exchanged it for 50lb test with I think 12lb Dia. 

 

I have heard of some filling the reel with part mono then attaching the braid to that. Is it worth doing or should that be avoided? 

Some people tie braid directly to the spool and put a piece of tape over the arbor knot so it does not slip. I prefer mono backing simply because I don't want sticky tape residue on my spools. Tape or mono backing is an absolute must for braid (unless your spool has holes you can tie the braid through).

If the spool is perforated or has any dents or holes in it—the braid won’t slip. The proper way to spool braid is to leave a tag end about 1/2” long and lay it across the spool and then wind the line tightly over it. Line slip is a myth from the days of shiny Kevlar line and smooth chrome or Bakelite spools. Spectra and Dynema are not that slick and spools are textured. Don’t be afraid. Your braid won’t slip. Tape or backer line kills accuracy and distance.

My fishing OCD has me cringing whenever this topic comes up. Once you get Abec rated bearings and do spin tests you’ll see that the spool stops on the knot to the backer instead of getting weighed down by a tiny piece of tape. No knot, then the tape always stops at the bottom.

I can’t even imagine backer line or tape AND a two piece rod.

30lb braid is as low as I'll go.  Definitely use backing or putting tape down, so the line doesn't slip. 

  On 4/26/2019 at 12:05 AM, CrankFate said:

Line slip is a myth from the days of shiny Kevlar line and smooth chrome or Bakelite spools.

I don't think so.  We see a new thread just about every week bringing up slippage.  Always starts with, "No matter how hard I tighten the star, my drag slips..."

  On 3/18/2019 at 5:36 AM, jbsoonerfan said:

It is .008 diameter. Not sure how skilled you are with a baitcaster or what you will be tossing, but I'm not going to attempt to fish 15 lb braid on a baitcaster and I consider myself pretty skilled with one.

I have heard of people doing it, but I'm not going to try. Personally, I don't go below 40lbs with braid on a baitcaster (I might consider 20 or 30lb line on a deep cranking setup once I get a boat).

  On 4/26/2019 at 1:59 AM, J Francho said:

I don't think so.  We see a new thread just about every week bringing up slippage.  Always starts with, "No matter how hard I tighten the star, my drag slips..."

:::facepalm:::

User error. Improper technique. 

  On 4/26/2019 at 7:18 AM, CrankFate said:

:::facepalm:::

 

User error. Improper technique. 

Agreed.  It's a pain, but we're here to help that person.

I don't remember if my spool is perforated or not. If it is then I'll tie it that way. Thanks. 

  On 4/27/2019 at 1:24 AM, bigone5500 said:

I don't remember if my spool is perforated or not. If it is then I'll tie it that way. Thanks. 

Have a look at this:

  Quote

Myth Busting: The truth about line slipping on the spool.

Many mistakenly believe that Spectra® fishing line will slip on the spool unless you take draconian measures to prevent it. Experience has clearly shown that putting on several layers of mono, dacron or duct tape is totally unnecessary. This practice is not recommended to solve a problem that does not even exist. Braided line grips the spool much like tread on a tire grips the road better than a smooth one with an infinitely small contact area.

Before you start spooling a reel, pass the line around the arbor twice and form a good knot such as the Berkley Trilene knot. Cinch it tightly on one side of the spool leaving a long tag end to be laid across the arbor. Spool the first full layer of Spectra® onto the spool in a close side-by-side fashion under tension of 6-8 pounds over the tag end. If this is done, the line will not slip! No exceptions have been reported but try pulling on it at this point if you have any doubts. When convinced, you might tell a friend that it works.

Continue filling the spool under tension without any exaggerated crisscrossing. Tension about 1/2 the drag pressure expected may be appropriate when spooling heavy- duty line. Exaggerated crisscrossing creates open space in the spool which may invite the subsequent layer to dig in. In any case, crisscrossing is a one-time-event because you would not attempt exaggerated crisscrossing when fighting a fish because to do so would give the fish the opportunity to shake the hook. Actually, even if you think you are laying the line tightly under tension in a close side-by-side fashion, it is likely that you can’t see that you are crossing several wraps every turn because the line is so small diameter.

Some believe that Spectra® should be spooled on wet. This is not needed, but if it makes you happy, OK. The main concern with wet spooling is that often insufficient tension is applied. Fresh water causes no problems, but I would not use sea water which has about 3.5% salt (about 1/3 pound per gallon). Salt causes spool erosion. You would be saturating the line with salt all the way down to the bottom of the spool to start trouble later.

http://www.bhptackle.com/pages.php?pageid=36

I’ll give it try on a smooth finesse spool that isn’t ported. Should be a good acid test. 

  On 4/28/2019 at 1:39 AM, J Francho said:

I’ll give it try on a smooth finesse spool that isn’t ported. Should be a good acid test. 

It’ll work. Using a tag end across the spool, spooled tightly, braid never slips.

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