Curado I Vs E - E Is Outperforming I. Is This Your Experience? 2024
Hollada reply :
Just spooled up a new Curado I hg with 30lb PP super slick. Put it on the same rod as Curado e series and used the same casting weight for comparison. The E had 65 lb regular PP. Two brakes on on each. Curado I dialed down to 1 on external brake.
The e is 10 or so yards longer consistently than the I. I bought the I used off of the flea market here. The guy I bought it from said he had just serviced the bearings.
Besides re cleaning the bearings, any suggestions? I thought the I would be at least as long if not longer than the E???
Anyone else have experience with both that you can share?
Very disappointed right now in the I. I've got a 6:3 I to spool tomorrow with fluoro. Hopefully it's not the same issue.
Dan
Crappiebasser reply :
Turn another brake off. I have used I's for a year now and never need more than 1 brake.
MarkH024 reply :
The Curado I is brand new. The E is not. Give it a half to full season to break in an compare them again. Hands down my 4 year old E will outcast my brand new I. In a year?...maybe, maybe not.
BassingNick reply :
Yep, same experience here..my year old 50E feels so effortless casting compared to my new Curado I.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
The new Curados I've cleaned were packed with grease including the bearings. Once equally setup and adjusted I suspect you'll see more parity between the two reels.
mhilgtx reply :
On 3/22/2015 at 5:41 AM, MarkH024 said:The Curado I is brand new. The E is not. Give it a half to full season to break in an compare them again. Hands down my 4 year old E will outcast my brand new I. In a year?...maybe, maybe not.
Interesting about the break in, I just got an I yesterday and I must say I am very impressed with it so far. Look forward to figuring out if is worth the extra $$ over my Lexa since I would like to try out a low gear ratio real for my next purchase.
Alonerankin2 reply :
My "I" series reels cast as good if not better than the "e" reels that I sold. As far as break in, it's been my experience that most reels improve somewhat with use. Both are solid reels..
HookdUP reply :
My Is and scorpions which are basically the same thing all cast better than my Es or Ds, but I love the old school feel of Ds and Es too much to ever let them go and they do everything I ask for ... I think your results would've been different if you bought your Curado new ...
Hollada reply :
The reel (the I i bought used) looks pristine. No dings or boat rash. What could be different in a new reel? Is there something I should look for that I could fix?
Alonerankin2 reply :
On 3/22/2015 at 6:27 AM, Hollada said:The reel (the I i bought used) looks pristine. No dings or boat rash. What could be different in a new reel? Is there something I should look for that I could fix?
A little concern on the previous owner issue. Only because what did he do/not do.. Bearings? Idk.. I know the platform is solid, it's a excellent casting & retrieving reel.. How many brakes do you have set? ( internally )
00 mod reply :
The e's have 6 brakes and I's only have 4. So having "2 brakes on" on both reels equates to more braking on the I than the e. 2 on on the e and 1 on on the I would both equate to a closer % of the brakes on. Also, older braid will cast better than new braid IMO. Try that and report back!
Jeff
Hollada reply :
I tried with all brakes off and got a nasty mess. Will pick it apart and try one brake tomorrow. I did try putting that spool in a brand new 6:3 I that I hadn't spooled yet. 2 brakes on that one and it cast fine. I think there is something funky with the bearings on the IHG.
Master Bait'r reply :
Degrease and flush the reel and bearings, re-oil with super fine oil. Try again.
Joe Schmuckatelli reply :
Im disappointed too man it doesn't do to well with braid its done ok with a 3/8 jig but on lighter weights with braid I get a random backlash I don't understand it
Poolshark reply :
One brake on the curado I should be all you need. I don't feel much of a distance in casting between the curado I and chronarch e that I own.
SenkoGuru reply :
Both of mine pretty much cast the same but I'm not as happy with the I as I am with the E series. I just like the E's much better.
tomustang reply :
I've said this about the ci4 chronarch too, the braking system is too fineky vs the old tried and true E system.
Poolshark reply :
On 3/22/2015 at 11:03 AM, SenkoGuru said:Both of mine pretty much cast the same but I'm not as happy with the I as I am with the E series. I just like the E's much better.
I agree.
tnt2671 reply :
On 3/22/2015 at 11:11 AM, tomustang said:I've said this about the ci4 chronarch too, the braking system is too fineky vs the old tried and true E system.
hmm I hear this quite a bit about the new braking system and i was skeptical at first but now i own several of both and they are both set it and forget it for me ( maybe a little on cast control knob) old style is 2 brakes on, cast control set w/ just a hair of spool end play on the newer style 2 brakes on dial between 1 and 2 and same on cast control. granted i don't throw any super light finesse stuff and i will say the newer style does require an occasional light oiling on the brake cone but besides that i actually like the micro adjustability option on the ci4+ newer style braking if you do need a minor tweak.
what are you guys having issues with them being fineky?
tomustang reply :
There is no issue. The E style was set-and-forget, no dialing in, no tuning for different types and weighted lures, it was simple and effective. I could simply throw a 1/8oz bare jig/grub, switch to a 1/2 jerkbait, and off to pitch a 3/8 jig with out brake adjustments. On the svs it's a chore compared to it.
The SVS added more 'hoops' for adjustment.
Hollada reply :
Cleaned the bearings and the reel. Works fine now. Will take a bit of dialing in to get it right.
Hollada reply :
On 3/22/2015 at 2:09 PM, tomustang said:There is no issue. The E style was set-and-forget, no dialing in, no tuning for different types and weighted lures, it was simple and effective. I could simply throw a 1/8oz bare jig/grub, switch to a 1/2 jerkbait, and off to pitch a 3/8 jig with out brake adjustments. On the svs it's a chore compared to it.
The SVS added more 'hoops' for adjustment.
Exactly..... What he said
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
From what I can see just on the bench the I is different, but not leaps and bounds better than the E. Shimano got away from the Curado's traditional workhorse reel reputation with the E series. Their first attempt at returning balance to the Universe with a G was a debacle because they had spoiled people to some degree with the E. The I's X ship is a nice improvement but nothing innovative really. Daiwa has been using dual pinion bearings for a while. A nice simple centrifugal brake is hard to beat IMO. There was no need to mess with that except for giving the perception of innovation.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 3/24/2015 at 2:49 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:From what I can see just on the bench the I is different, but not leaps and bounds better than the E. Shimano got away from the Curado's traditional workhorse reel reputation with the E series. Their first attempt at returning balance to the Universe with a G was a debacle because they had spoiled people to some degree with the E. The I's X ship is a nice improvement but nothing innovative really. Daiwa has been using dual pinion bearings for a while. A nice simple centrifugal brake is hard to beat IMO. There was no need to mess with that except for giving the perception of innovation.
Many many people complained about lack of outside brake adjustment on shimano reels so they made it happen. They also gave the caster the ability use to less braking than what the vbs gives, what I wanted and can utilize. I think most just cant handle the extra speed and are spoiled, perhaps shamed by not being able to control the spool showing their overall lack of baitcasting thumb control abilities. The SVS spool can be set and forget just like the vbs. Mine is set on 1 brake and never changed from 1/8oz to 3/4oz cant be any simpler. I could almost guarantee people would be complaining if the new shimano reels left off this feature to adjust brakes externally.
Alonerankin2 reply :
On 3/24/2015 at 3:27 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:Many many people complained about lack of outside brake adjustment on shimano reels so they made it happen. They also gave the caster the ability use to less braking than what the vbs gives, what I wanted and can utilize. I think most just cant handle the extra speed and are spoiled, perhaps shamed by not being able to control the spool showing their overall lack of baitcasting thumb control abilities. The SVS spool can be set and forget just like the vbs. Mine is set on 1 brake and never changed from 1/8oz to 3/4oz cant be any simpler. I could almost guarantee people would be complaining if the new shimano reels left off this feature to adjust brakes externally.
Exactly.. Seems folks with the issues are new plug throwers that haven't learned reel setup.. I have 0 issues casting, retrieving or anything with the "I" series myself. It is a higher performance reel in the casting department and braking control dept. as well in my opinion..
tnt2671 reply :
On 3/24/2015 at 3:27 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:Many many people complained about lack of outside brake adjustment on shimano reels so they made it happen. They also gave the caster the ability use to less braking than what the vbs gives, what I wanted and can utilize. I think most just cant handle the extra speed and are spoiled, perhaps shamed by not being able to control the spool showing their overall lack of baitcasting thumb control abilities. The SVS spool can be set and forget just like the vbs. Mine is set on 1 brake and never changed from 1/8oz to 3/4oz cant be any simpler. I could almost guarantee people would be complaining if the new shimano reels left off this feature to adjust brakes externally.
agree 100% you can set it forget it if you choose and it will perform every bit as good as the old svs system and if you want to get every last bit out of it the dial allows that extra fine tweaking capability that the old system lacked. they both work great, but the new Shimano infinity systems are imho the best cb available on the market to date and is just an improvement on an already proven system. the E-series are great reels and not by any means out of date but the new gen metanium , ci4+'s and i's hands down an improvement.
bootytrain reply :
On 3/24/2015 at 2:49 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:From what I can see just on the bench the I is different, but not leaps and bounds better than the E. Shimano got away from the Curado's traditional workhorse reel reputation with the E series. Their first attempt at returning balance to the Universe with a G was a debacle because they had spoiled people to some degree with the E. The I's X ship is a nice improvement but nothing innovative really. Daiwa has been using dual pinion bearings for a while. A nice simple centrifugal brake is hard to beat IMO. There was no need to mess with that except for giving the perception of innovation.
All Daiwa dual bearing pinions are in their "free floating" spool models, where the pinion basically needs to be supported by either bearings or bushings since there is no long spool shaft running through the center of pinion to help support it like on Shimanos X Ship reels. None of their long shaft (Shimano style) spool models like the Tatula, Lexa, etc. have dual bearing pinions. While the E series was great, for me personally I think it was just too basic in features, and theres nothing wrong with that. But when you have the new Revos to contend with, then the Lews revival where for the money their reels are really feature packed, Shimano just did what was natural, evolved to keep ahead of the competition. I cant really say why some people don't see a performance difference between the 2 models or like I do and a lot of others, or even have problems dialing in the new brakes. I guess it just goes to show how so many anglers fish differently.
HookdUP reply :
On 3/24/2015 at 4:28 AM, tnt2671 said:agree 100% you can set it forget it if you choose and it will perform every bit as good as the old svs system and if you want to get every last bit out of it the dial allows that extra fine tweaking capability that the old system lacked. they both work great, but the new Shimano infinity systems are imho the best cb available on the market to date and is just an improvement on an already proven system. the E-series are great reels and not by any means out of date but the new gen metanium , ci4+'s and i's hands down an improvement.
zachb34 reply :
I bought two brand new Curado I reels a few months ago. I've used one with no issues, but I just started using the second one and on a light cast where the spool doesn't gain speed quickly it whines very loud. Still casts fine just makes a whining noise that sounds like something is going to wear out really fast.
Alonerankin2 reply :
On 3/24/2015 at 6:18 AM, zachb34 said:I bought two brand new Curado I reels a few months ago. I've used one with no issues, but I just started using the second one and on a light cast where the spool doesn't gain speed quickly it whines very loud. Still casts fine just makes a whining noise that sounds like something is going to wear out really fast.
Oil your brake drum. That should solve it.
Preytorien reply :
I've only used an E when my buddy let me use his, then I bought a G....I'm no reel expert and these guys sure have more technical knowledge, but I'm totally impressed with the I. I get great casting distance, almost no backlashes, and smooth operation. I love it
Poolshark reply :
I noticed that on one of my reels as well and tiny bit of oil solved it.On 3/24/2015 at 6:18 AM, zachb34 said:I bought two brand new Curado I reels a few months ago. I've used one with no issues, but I just started using the second one and on a light cast where the spool doesn't gain speed quickly it whines very loud. Still casts fine just makes a whining noise that sounds like something is going to wear out really fast.
BassinLou reply :
On 3/24/2015 at 6:21 AM, Alonerankin2 said:Oil your brake drum. That should solve it.
^^^ THIS^^^ problem solved.
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