Most Sensitive Bottom Contact Rods Under $150 2024
Loop_Dad reply :
I've been mainly Shimano guy. However reading all these threads about folks talking about other rods made me wonder if I am missing something. In your opinion (yeah, just opinion), what is the most sensitive bottom contact rods in this price range. Crucial? No?
michael68w reply :
lots decent rods around that range but two that stand out the most to me would be the powell endurance or the crucial.
THE_Vue's reply :
As for sensitivity my list starts with
1st-kistler klx sensitivity as good as my NRX..KLX has the NFC blank
2nd-irod air
3rd-phenix recon-toray blank
4th-***-toray blank
These rods are in that price range accept for irod but there really good deals around right now. I pick up the kistler as 1st purchase threw them and got discount under 150, And for the deals going around for irod air also a good choice to look at.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
Well casting rods from what Ive own/owned my Quantum Smoke 7'M/F is at the top of my list. The list includes 7'6" Cumara, 6'9"LTB, 7'Veritas, 6'6"Premier, 7'Clarus. Smoke also happens to be the lightest and balances the best which I feel contributes to its excellent sensitivity.
OkobojiEagle reply :
Sorry, but I don't think anybody can answer that for you. The rod is only a part of the equation that includes the reel, line, bait and yourself... the angler. A well balanced set that the angler has spent some time with and is very comfortable using will most likely bring the most bass to hand.
oe
Loop_Dad reply :
On 12/3/2013 at 10:23 AM, OkobojiEagle said:Sorry, but I don't think anybody can answer that for you. The rod is only a part of the equation that includes the reel, line, bait and yourself... the angler. A well balanced set that the angler has spent some time with and is very comfortable using will most likely bring the most bass to hand.
oe
Ture and I know. Lots of variables and it is rather subjective.
I wasn't asking about me. I was asking about everyone's opinion based on their experience.
jtesch reply :
I've got about 10 Crucials and at that price range the only other rods I have used that I thought were as sensitive are Bass Pro Carbonlite and JM Signature. Veritas aren't even close, my Powell Endurance isn't either. I have a Kistler micro mag and it doesn't compare either. My Croix Rage isn't as sensitive, I have a Fenwick Elite Tech smallmouth spinning rod that is every bit as sensitive as my Cumara so that would be in your price range and they are great rods.
rippin-lips reply :
The problem with this question is so many people have tried some but not others so they can't compare them equally. Example me personally I won't try any shimano rods/reels. I feel that it's a hype thing. So saying my powell endurance's are the best value would be false because the crucial could blow it away. Also some design factors would stop people from buying certain things. I know a lot don't like micro guides or certain reel seats ect ect. Example the Veritas. I'm sure it's a nice rod but I dislike the reel seat so I'll never buy one. You're going to get 20 different opinions from different people. Just stick with what feels good to you. You're the one using it not them.
My personal favorite would be the powell endurance @ $120. It's just a great stick.
Loop_Dad reply :
On 12/3/2013 at 10:54 AM, rippin-lips said:The problem with this question is so many people have tried some but not others so they can't compare them equally. Example me personally I won't try any shimano rods/reels. I feel that it's a hype thing. So saying my powell endurance's are the best value would be false because the crucial could blow it away. Also some design factors would stop people from buying certain things. I know a lot don't like micro guides or certain reel seats ect ect. Example the Veritas. I'm sure it's a nice rod but I dislike the reel seat so I'll never buy one. You're going to get 20 different opinions from different people. Just stick with what feels good to you. You're the one using it not them.
My personal favorite would be the powell endurance @ $120. It's just a great stick.
Yeah I know, I'm only asking opinions and not asking for the absolute correct answer, which does not exist. But I hear you.
However when enough people mention certain rods are sensitive, I might give a try this time. I might regret, I might not.
rippin-lips reply :
I'm totally with you just take it lightly. People praise the Veritas and the ***. They're 'ok' but for a few dollars more you get a rod that's in a different field. This is just opinion though so take it for what you want.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 12/3/2013 at 10:54 AM, rippin-lips said:The problem with this question is so many people have tried some but not others so they can't compare them equally. Example me personally I won't try any shimano rods/reels. I feel that it's a hype thing. So saying my powell endurance's are the best value would be false because the crucial could blow it away. Also some design factors would stop people from buying certain things. I know a lot don't like micro guides or certain reel seats ect ect. Example the Veritas. I'm sure it's a nice rod but I dislike the reel seat so I'll never buy one. You're going to get 20 different opinions from different people. Just stick with what feels good to you. You're the one using it not them.
My personal favorite would be the powell endurance @ $120. It's just a great stick.
I think I had high expectation with the Cumara based on the hype and it didnt match that hype/expectation to me.
Agree they have their good and bad points so its a pesonal thing there. I do feel they help in the weight/balance/sensitivity cause they work together so to speak. Leaders & fiber coated water well there are the issue points.
jtesch reply :
I will say this, Crucials and Cumaras have a unique feel to them. It doesn't make them better or worse it just makes them different. I have read it described as a "crisp" action and that is a perfect description. My Rage is 7'1" medium/fast and I have a Crucial 7'2" medium/fast and they couldn't be more different. Crucials just have a stiffer tip section than a lot of other rods. The quantum Smokes kind of feel the same and a rod worth looking at is the new Daiwa Tatula. I played with a couple at BPS and they feel real nice. Honestly you can't go wrong with the Crucials, the warranty is awesome and trust me I've used it several times, all of which were my fault not the rods
WRB reply :
Too many factors to list because how a rod feels is an individual interpretation. I find Shimano may feel a little rigid without a reel mounted, when fished they feel under powered for the rating, compared to higher end rods.
Rod sensitivity is over stated, none can feel anything, only transmit line movement to your finger tips.
High modulus light weight graphite rod blanks are one component of a rod, the reel seat, handles, guides all combine to make up a good worm/ jig rod.
Tom
skeletor6 reply :
A used Gen 1 Cumara are easily found under $150. That's the most sensitive rod that I have used in this price range.
I would take a Gen 1 Cumara over a crucial if you are open to buying one used. I haven't used a St. Croix Rage Rod, however a Legend Tournament was less sensitive than my Cumara and that was purchased for less than $150 new.
John G reply :
On 12/3/2013 at 10:54 AM, rippin-lips said:Example me personally I won't try any shimano rods/reels. I feel that it's a hype thing.
Hype? Maybe they are just great reels! I got my first Shimano baitcaster in 82 IIRC. I was around 12 years old at the time. It was a brand spankin new Shimano Bantam Mag Plus 250SG. If it was hype that made me want a Shimano then so be it! I got my first one and I never looked back!
skeletor6 reply :
Denying to use any rod or reel based on name-brand is imprudent. I will use the best I can get my hands on regardless of name-brand. If there is a lot of hype concerning a certain rod or reel, there is usually a reason.
The Daiwa Tatula is a good example right now. There is a lot of talk or "hype" surrounding it. I bet it turns out to be a fine reel and rod series. I wouldn't deny purchasing either based on the fact their is "hype" surrounding it.
thehooligan reply :
I agree with skeletor, 1st gen cumara used can be had for $150 and under. Awesome rod, i have threee and will never part with them. If you look around you can get deals, i scored a cumulus for $180 !!
I agree with others though, everyone has certain guides and reel seats that work for them, i love shimano eva handles, guides are great, and the rods are light.
The two other rods i would be looking at is the powell endurance and st croix avid, both are awesome rods for the money.
rippin-lips reply :
On 12/3/2013 at 5:51 PM, John G said:Hype? Maybe they are just great reels! I got my first Shimano baitcaster in 82 IIRC. I was around 12 years old at the time. It was a brand spankin new Shimano Bantam Mag Plus 250SG. If it was hype that made me want a Shimano then so be it! I got my first one and I never looked back!
Some of their stuff is ok but reels like the curado are just hype. You have basically proved my point by your post. People like yourselves used one a long time ago and just stuck with them. There are better offerings imo.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 12/3/2013 at 8:21 PM, thehooligan said:I agree with skeletor, 1st gen cumara used can be had for $150 and under. Awesome rod, i have threee and will never part with them. If you look around you can get deals, i scored a cumulus for $180 !!
I agree with others though, everyone has certain guides and reel seats that work for them, i love shimano eva handles, guides are great, and the rods are light.
The two other rods i would be looking at is the powell endurance and st croix avid, both are awesome rods for the money.
Yeah now on another site a 7'2" MF for $115- I keep telling myself I dont need it I dont need it. 
lmbfisherman reply :
As a Shimano guy like you, I find at this price point the Fenwick Elite Tech is very sensitive and close to some of the 200 dollar rods that I own. Due to your experience with Shimano Power/Action, I think the Fenwick ET will feel just right too. (I find both brands are about the same in Power/Action, but still different.) Also, take a look at the Aetos which has more offering and is as price suggest better. Not that I'm knocking a Crucial, but the Fenwick's at the price points win in my opinion.
11justin22 reply :
kistler klx for me. I have fished with a gloomis nrx and felt it was very comparable to the klx. I have some of the kistler micro magnesium also and while nice they are nowhere near the klx. I also have a soft spot for the bps carbonlites though i would rate them lower than the klx.
mjseverson24 reply :
I think in the 150.00 price range the Crucial is the most sensitive rod on the market. their reel seat is the most efficient and non vibration dampening on the market. also the seat gives maximum contact with the rod for increased sensitivity compared to others in their price range. After the crucial the TFO tactical casting rod is probably the next best, great rod great price. I would still stick with the Crucial especially with the warranty program Shimano has. I liked the fenwick smallmouth ET rods too, they would be a close third.
Mitch
kickerfish1 reply :
Difficult to determine for many reasons. First, if we draw the line at MSRP of $150 it makes this a bit more easy as it is a level playing field. Second, If used rods and rods bought at great discounts are included it gets a bit more difficult. For example...I picked up a few NEW Gen 1 cumara sticks for $100 even though retail is around $240. While such deals can be found from time to time, examples of 50% + discounts are not easily found on new rods.
I don't have many rods that are under $150 MSRP but of those rods I do have the Fenwick Elite Tech Smallmouth series rods have been very impressive. Slightly outside of the $150 mark the Phenix Recon has impressed as well but can be had for about that amount during sales.
ww2farmer reply :
Too subjective.....I have fished with guys who use $400 rods who can't feel things that I can feel with $75 rods. Does that make his $400 rods junk? No, it means he dosen't have a clue, and no ammount of money spent on rods is going to give him one. Asking some one which rod is more sensitve, is like asking who's wife/girlfriend is hotter..........no one wins this debate.
Loop_Dad reply :
On 12/4/2013 at 9:11 AM, ww2farmer said:Too subjective.....I have fished with guys who use $400 rods who can't feel things that I can feel with $75 rods. Does that make his $400 rods junk? No, it means he dosen't have a clue, and no ammount of money spent on rods is going to give him one. Asking some one which rod is more sensitve, is like asking who's wife/girlfriend is hotter..........no one wins this debate.
We were talking about bottom contact sensitivity...hum. What we were talking about again? 
ColdSVT reply :
While the blank is important the finger is the real indicator of sensitivity..line also plays a role
Catt reply :
In my hands a Shimano Crucial is as sensitive as any.
tomustang reply :
On the high end, Shimano Crucial is hard to beat, it's also at the high end. A good middle ground is the Veritas and ***.
You body's own sensitivity will play a huge part on how you manage the feeling from the rod.
The line you choose also makes a difference.
On 12/4/2013 at 12:49 AM, rippin-lips said:Some of their stuff is ok but reels like the curado are just hype. You have basically proved my point by your post. People like yourselves used one a long time ago and just stuck with them. There are better offerings imo.
This would seem legit if you didn't have a sponsor shirt with daiwa on it
rippin-lips reply :
On 12/5/2013 at 12:42 AM, tomustang said:This would seem legit if you didn't have a sponsor shirt with daiwa on it
#1 Did I say anything about Daiwa? No I didn't.
#2 It's a jersey I paid to have made out of my pocket. I'm not sponsored by anyone. I like daiwa reels so it's on there.
Preytorien reply :
I have a Crucial sitting under the Christmas tree......this thread is making me VERY ready for warm weather
I already have a Clarus matched with my Sahara, and that's a great finesse rig, I'm excited to use this new one out as well
aceman387 reply :
I love my crucial.I feel its every bit as sensitive as my way more expensive legend elite.
Virtuoso reply :
On 12/4/2013 at 12:49 AM, rippin-lips said:Some of their stuff is ok but reels like the curado are just hype.
Have you even used a curado? It doesn't sound like you have. Speculation does not equal knowledge.
The crucial is nice. The spinning rod with full cork is better for spinning.
Sensitivity is very subjective. In depends so much on the user that nobody ccan answer this. Go with what feels the best on your reel at the store.
Fwiw If I had to chose one that's in this range msrp. Fenwick Elite Tech Smallmouth. Theres a few rods they manufacture well.
If u buy used, you open yourself up to a Dobyns champion, legend tournament, cumara A, imx, recon 1 or 2, etc. Used will get you the best rod but screws up this debate.
rippin-lips reply :
^^^ just remember that speculation doesn't equal knowledge.
Loop_Dad reply :
Alright guys, some of you convinced me. I've got me a deal on Fenwick Elite Tech Smallmouth. I'll be able to see (feel) it for myself. This would be my first Fenwick in very very long time. Thanks for all the responses!
iabass8 reply :
On 12/4/2013 at 12:49 AM, rippin-lips said:Some of their stuff is ok but reels like the curado are just hype.
Unless you're strictly referring to the G series this is just a silly statement.
Virtuoso reply :
On 12/6/2013 at 1:46 AM, rippin-lips said:^^^ just remember that speculation doesn't equal knowledge.
Exactly.
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
On 12/4/2013 at 12:49 AM, rippin-lips said:Some of their stuff is ok but reels like the curado are just hype. You have basically proved my point by your post. People like yourselves used one a long time ago and just stuck with them. There are better offerings imo.
I agree with you on the fact that there is a lot of hype about Shimano reels, but the curado is not just an OK reel. At least not the B, D, and E series! The G is below average quality for its price range.. Shimano is NOT my favorite reel maker, and I am not a shimano "fanboy", but I will stand behind the curado. I would consider it one of the best series of reels ever made. Very durable, priced fairly, reliable, very solid feeling are all terms that fit the curado perfectly.
Also, If shimano reels were just hype, people would not continue to use them. They'd buy it and say it is below expectations and sell it off. Shimano didn't grow such a huge fanbase by making shoddy reels.
Virtuoso reply :
On 12/6/2013 at 8:57 AM, Loop_Dad said:Alright guys, some of you convinced me.
I've got me a deal on Fenwick Elite Tech Smallmouth. I'll be able to see (feel) it for myself. This would be my first Fenwick in very very long time. Thanks for all the responses!
Good choice! Make sure you don't forget to make a review on it. What model did you grab?
Loop_Dad reply :
On 12/6/2013 at 9:14 AM, Virtuoso said:Good choice! Make sure you don't forget to make a review on it. What model did you grab?
I got 6'9" MHF. The lure rating was 3/8 to 1 oz and I thought it was bit high, but someone said power rating is pretty close to Shimano, so this should do it for me.
Virtuoso reply :
On 12/6/2013 at 9:26 AM, Loop_Dad said:I got 6'9" MHF. The lure rating was 3/8 to 1 oz and I thought it was bit high, but someone said power rating is pretty close to Shimano, so this should do it for me.
Very cool. I don't own that specific model. Really curious to hear your impressions of it.
rippin-lips reply :
I agree and disagree but I'm not here to start debates. All I said is there are better offerings then the curado and I'll stand by that too. One quick example is the Lews TP. $135 new it's lighter,cosmetically better,smoother, and better casting. I had a curado E. Bought it based off what I read on here and other places. Sold it about a month later after using various other reels that friends owned and purchased a Lews. Fishes way above it's price point and even has converted plenty of shimano guys. I've even heard a few times it's as good as a chronarch. I've never fished one more then 5 minutes so it's unfair to say anything about it. Yes they have a great rep built up. The problem is some people buy them after hearing all the die hard shimano fans talk about them. They never try out other brands and then argue till their blue in the face that they're the greatest reel ever. It is a proven reel that takes a beating and has been around for a long time. I won't argue that at all. On the flip side there is a lot of hype that's been built up and I feel the reel is overrated.On 12/6/2013 at 9:13 AM, aprw1 said:I agree with you on the fact that there is a lot of hype about Shimano reels, but the curado is not just an OK reel. At least not the B, D, and E series! The G is below average quality for its price range.. Shimano is NOT my favorite reel maker, and I am not a shimano "fanboy", but I will stand behind the curado. I would consider it one of the best series of reels ever made. Very durable, priced fairly, reliable, very solid feeling are all terms that fit the curado perfectly.
Also, If shimano reels were just hype, people would not continue to use them. They'd buy it and say it is below expectations and sell it off. Shimano didn't grow such a huge fanbase by making shoddy reels.
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
On 12/6/2013 at 10:14 AM, rippin-lips said:I agree and disagree but I'm not here to start debates. All I said is there are better offerings then the curado and I'll stand by that too. One quick example is the Lews TP. $135 new it's lighter,cosmetically better,smoother, and better casting. I had a curado E. Bought it based off what I read on here and other places. Sold it about a month later after using various other reels that friends owned and purchased a Lews. Fishes way above it's price point and even has converted plenty of shimano guys. I've even heard a few times it's as good as a chronarch. I've never fished one more then 5 minutes so it's unfair to say anything about it. Yes they have a great rep built up. The problem is some people buy them after hearing all the die hard shimano fans talk about them. They never try out other brands and then argue till their blue in the face that they're the greatest reel ever.
I am going to have to politely disagree about the Lew's, but it is purely personal preference. I find Lew's to be very finicky, and the Shimano's are all "set and forget". I do agree with your last statement though. A lot of people use 1 brand (most of the time it is quantum because quantum reels seem to be designed to catch fisherman rather than fish) and never branch off to other brands. I have seen this a lot with shimano as well. I personally like to have a bit of variety..
*Hootie reply :
On 12/6/2013 at 9:02 AM, iabass8 said:Unless you're strictly referring to the G series this is just a silly statement.
Still waiting for my G series Curados to explode, meltdown, dissentegrate, or whatever it is they're supposed to do.....NOT YET!!
Hootie
thehooligan reply :
On 12/6/2013 at 10:14 AM, rippin-lips said:I agree and disagree but I'm not here to start debates. All I said is there are better offerings then the curado and I'll stand by that too. One quick example is the Lews TP. $135 new it's lighter,cosmetically better,smoother, and better casting. I had a curado E. Bought it based off what I read on here and other places. Sold it about a month later after using various other reels that friends owned and purchased a Lews. Fishes way above it's price point and even has converted plenty of shimano guys. I've even heard a few times it's as good as a chronarch. I've never fished one more then 5 minutes so it's unfair to say anything about it. Yes they have a great rep built up. The problem is some people buy them after hearing all the die hard shimano fans talk about them. They never try out other brands and then argue till their blue in the face that they're the greatest reel ever. It is a proven reel that takes a beating and has been around for a long time. I won't argue that at all. On the flip side there is a lot of hype that's been built up and I feel the reel is overrated.
A korean made pure fishing reel vs a high quality japanese made reel is not even a fair comparison man.
THE_Vue's reply :
shimano rods are made in china so does that make them high quality? Guess not cause its not made in japan.... 
iabass8 reply :
On 12/6/2013 at 4:35 PM, hootiebenji said:Still waiting for my G series Curados to explode, meltdown, dissentegrate, or whatever it is they're supposed to do.....NOT YET!!
Hootie
I'm not sure what that has to do with anything but I didn't say they were going to explode, meltdown, etc. the reels clearly didn't live up to the "hype" like its successors. they aren't bad reels and i didnt say they are. while others do like them and that's great, it's a fact they were a let down vs prior offerings.
Loop_Dad reply :
On 12/7/2013 at 2:02 AM, THE_Vue said:shimano rods are made in china so does that make them high quality? Guess not cause its not made in japan....
Personally, I think how it was designed and how the quality control was performed are more important than which factory it came out from.
(I've got a Curado G)
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
The g series curado isn't a bad reel by any means, but it is below average for the price. The main reason it didn't live up to the hype is that people thought the reel was going to be better than the E series curado, and also cost less at the same time. It does cost less, but it is not as nicely made as the curado e. Comparing the E series curado to the G series curado is like comparing a citica to a curado. Similar build, but not made as nicely and not as much quality materials.
tomustang reply :
Shimano hate burns another thread. How about back on topic.
DogBone_384 reply :
This is a great thread! I spent almost twenty years in the high-end car audio industry and have to add that these types of threads are the same as the old argument of what speaker sounds best. It was easy to quantify which electronics were better by design, but speaker quality is 100% subjective, just as rod sensitivity is here.
I find my Carbonlite & Veritas are the two most sensitive rods I own. My Fenwick Silver Hawk is a close 3rd, and it was $50.
Great kitchen table talk, keep it coming.
Add: threads like these also make me want to buy more gear 'to try out' which makes my wife roll her eyes and ask why she married a kid !
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 12/7/2013 at 9:10 AM, DogBone_384 said:This is a great thread! I spent almost twenty years in the high-end car audio industry and have to add that these types of threads are the same as the old argument of what speaker sounds best. It was easy to quantify which electronics were better by design, but speaker quality is 100% subjective, just as rod sensitivity is here.
I find my Carbonlite & Veritas are the two most sensitive rods I own. My Fenwick Silver Hawk is a close 3rd, and it was $50.
Great kitchen table talk, keep it coming.
Add: threads like these also make me want to buy more gear 'to try out' which makes my wife roll her eyes and ask why she married a kid !
No debate Boston Acustic Pro 6.0 F/R and Soundstream 15" SPL160 subs kicking back in the early 90s 
Doesnt matter much now cause cant hear as well.
DogBone_384 reply :
"No debate Boston Acustic Pro 6.0 F/R and Soundstream 15" SPL160 subs kicking back in the early 90s Doesnt matter much now cause cant hear as well."
Sorry, I'd have to go with a/d/s 320 i/s for antiques and /////ALPINE SPX-17Pro for modern. Though I installed an awful lot of BA Pros back in the 80's & 90's…..
Enough hijacking - back to rod sensitivity….
Have a great weekend...
*Hootie reply :
I would like to discuss sliding compound miter saws....lol.
Hootie
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
There could be a way to measure rod sensitivity. There are vibration monitoring devices that could be set on the rod reelseat position then have an adjustable device creating a tic or vibration on a set lenght of line using a standard line or just on the rodtip. The monitor can feel these inputs through the length of rod and give readings higher lower at set levels of input. Somewhat like the sensor for richter scale measures vibration from earthquakes.
So set input at 1/8,1/4,1/2oz equivalent force tap tap tap, read monitor, the higher the reading the more sensitive the rod is or the smallest force to get reading. One rod could measure down to 1/64oz force while another wont react til 1/8oz force applied so the 1/64 is more sensitive.
Or a setting of 1/4oz input and rod A gets reading of 1000 on monitor, rod B get 1200 the rod B feels more vibration at reelseat thus more sensitive.
Just thinking
WRB reply :
I will repeat this agian; fishing rods can only transmit vibrations from line movement, the lure weight only reduces the amount a slack line and water drag coeffient on the line. You could hit the lure with a hammer and fell nothing if the line has slack and doesn't move under water, vibrations are not attenuated up the line in water.
The line you use has more impact on how well a rod transmit line movement through your fingers and hand holding the rod. How much advantage a high modulus light weight rod offers verses a lower modulus heavier weight rod becomes an individual interpratation and how much money you are willing to pay for that difference.
Tom
Diggy reply :
Im liking my m/h carbonlite more and more every day for this application, more so with rocky terrain than grass dragging worms through it. May pick up a 7ft6 heavy or trade my *** for one locally.
Jeff H reply :
On 12/7/2013 at 10:24 PM, hootiebenji said:I would like to discuss sliding compound miter saws....lol.
Hootie
LOL...it's a good thing some carry a sense of humor in these discussions. That cracked me up! Here's to you hootie! 
I have always felt the Shimano Crucial fishes way above it's price in my hands. I use them and St Croix Avids and I think their sensitivity levels are pretty close for me.
SirSnookalot reply :
On 12/8/2013 at 1:06 AM, WRB said:I will repeat this agian; fishing rods can only transmit vibrations from line movement, the lure weight only reduces the amount a slack line and water drag coeffient on the line. You could hit the lure with a hammer and fell nothing if the line has slack and doesn't move under water, vibrations are not attenuated up the line in water.
The line you use has more impact on how well a rod transmit line movement through your fingers and hand holding the rod. How much advantage a high modulus light weight rod offers verses a lower modulus heavier weight rod becomes an individual interpratation and how much money you are willing to pay for that difference.
Tom
I think Tom is right.
I don't think on a technical level, 60 years of bass fishing has taught me just to react to the gear I'm using, weather and water conditions at the present time, yesterday is ancient history. The statement always arises " how do you know you're feeling all the bites", the answer is " how do you know I'm not". Not a doubt in my mind that I don't feel the vast majority of bites. Knowing how to keep slack out of the line is as beneficial as any rod you may use, I do think braided lines are a big equalizer too.
The hardest part of fishing is finding them and enticing the strike, some days they're on and some days they're off. The techniques and the actually landing of fish is the easy part, IMO the equipment is secondary to experience.
Jeff H reply :
Feel or touch is one of our senses. Just as some can see or hear better than others, some peoples sense of feel is diminished or enhanced compared to others. That's not real hard to understand. I've fished with guys that can't feel bites that I've seen at the end of their Loomis GLX rods using flouro while I'm whacking 'em with my Crucials and XT mono. Some guys hands AND focus are just dead compared to others and as SirSnookalot says, that ability to focus comes with experience. I don't feel I've anything to gain by spending $500 on any rod.
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
TT review of the tatula is supposed to be up soon. Looks like a promising rod to me and is under $150
BassWhole! reply :
On 12/7/2013 at 10:24 PM, hootiebenji said:I would like to discuss sliding compound miter saws....lol.
Hootie
Yeah, and then if you are not careful, sensitivity will be moot stubby...
A guy is working on his mitre saw when he accidentally cuts his finger. His friend rushes him to the emergency room, where doctors are able to reattach it.
He calls his wife to inform her, and says "Honey I had an accident, I cut off one of my fingers"
She is horrified and exclaims "Not the hole finger?!"
To which he responds "no, not the hole finger, the one next to it."
*Hootie reply :
On 12/9/2013 at 11:13 PM, reason said:Yeah, and then if you are not careful, sensitivity will be moot stubby...
A guy is working on his mitre saw when he accidentally cuts his finger. His friend rushes him to the emergency room, where doctors are able to reattach it.
He calls his wife to inform her, and says "Honey I had an accident, I cut off one of my fingers"
She is horrified and exclaims "Not the hole finger?!"
To which he responds "no, not the hole finger, the one next to it."
HILLARIOUS!!!!
Hootie
Loop_Dad reply :
I received my new Fenwick Elite Tech Smallmouth yesterday. This is 6'9" MHF. I couldn't wait to try this out, so I went to near by lake this afternoon for a couple of hours.
First I like the grip. Some parts are fatter. This helps me to securely hold the rod without gripping too hard. The lure rating was from 3/8-1 oz and I was bit worried that the tip might be too stiff for my liking, but it seem to cast ok with 1/4 oz. My main range is usually 1/2 oz and with that it cast very nice. Sensitivity was good that I was able to feel everything I expected to feel. No problem setting hook with heavy gauge hook. I only got one fish (4 lbs), but it handled the fish as I expected.
So the bottom line, I am very happy with this purchase, especially with the good deal I got. (I got two for price of one! ) Thanks folks.
BTW: This is not only my first Elite Tech fish, but also my first Rage Tail fish (craw).
JCiurej34 reply :
Duckett Micro Magics start at $149 and they're pretty sensitive in my opinion.
CWB reply :
On 12/7/2013 at 5:35 AM, aprw1 said:The g series curado isn't a bad reel by any means, but it is below average for the price. The main reason it didn't live up to the hype is that people thought the reel was going to be better than the E series curado, and also cost less at the same time. It does cost less, but it is not as nicely made as the curado e. Comparing the E series curado to the G series curado is like comparing a citica to a curado. Similar build, but not made as nicely and not as much quality materials.
A G series Curado is just a green E series Citica. Shimano didn't raise the price on the Curado when they brought out the G series. They painted the Citica Green and raised the price and called it a Curado.
Curado E's are probably one of the most popular reels series ever made. Still sell on Ebay for up to $150.0. Not sure what this has to do with OP though.
iabass8 reply :
On 12/16/2013 at 6:11 AM, CWB said:A G series Curado is just a green E series Citica. Shimano didn't raise the price on the Curado when they brought out the G series. They painted the Citica Green and raised the price and called it a Curado.
Curado E's are probably one of the most popular reels series ever made. Still sell on Ebay for up to $150.0. Not sure what this has to do with OP though.
the curado G series also has a larger frame size than the citica E. It's the same frame proportions as the caenen
Jrob78 reply :
On 12/16/2013 at 6:11 AM, CWB said:A G series Curado is just a green E series Citica. Shimano didn't raise the price on the Curado when they brought out the G series. They painted the Citica Green and raised the price and called it a Curado.
Curado E's are probably one of the most popular reels series ever made. Still sell on Ebay for up to $150.0. Not sure what this has to do with OP though.
The G Series Curado has nothing to do with the Citica E. Your first sentence is completely false. Like iabass said, the Curado G is the same basic frame shape as the entry level Caenan. The big difference is the Caenan has a graphite frame, while the Curado has an aluminum frame.
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