Little Shimano Sneek Peek 2024
aavery2 reply :
Sorry no pictures, just some info as to what we might be seeing at the upcoming ICAST
This info was posted on another site and confirmed by Bantam1
""" I was just at the Bassmaster elite tourney at lacrosse and asked about the new shimano chronarchs. Luckly the shimano rep showed me the new chronarchs. I was able to cast and feel the new chronarchs on a rod. The new breaking system seems wicked with a central cylinder type breaking almost like a mgx or gen3 premier. The frame is 1 piece carbon ci material. Color is grey with little red outline. Reel weighed in about 6oz. So it basically looks like a core. Sweet deal though shimano rep said price will be around $250."""
Dan, "Bantam1" did say that the reel at the tourney was shown to only a select few and was a prototype. Might give some insight as to where Shimano is going with their reels.
Jrob78 reply :
Can't wait to see what they have to offer. I hope the Chronarch moves back to its proper place in the lineup instead of the white Curado it is now.
rockchalk06 reply :
This may be sweet!
aavery2 reply :
On 6/27/2013 at 8:14 AM, Jrob78 said:Can't wait to see what they have to offer. I hope the Chronarch moves back to its proper place in the lineup instead of the white Curado it is now.
I agree, the choice of frame material is interesting, maybe it was only for the prototype.
Jrob78 reply :
I don't know much about the ci material but if it behaves like a non-corrosive magnesium, i'm interested.
ColdSVT reply :
hmmm...may be able to score some white chron Es here soon for the cheap....but I cant wait to see the new one!
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
Can you go into a little more detail for me about the braking system? I have never owned a revo mgx or premier so I can't get really picture what you're talking about. Thanks
aavery2 reply :
On 6/27/2013 at 8:55 AM, Crankenstein said:Can you go into a little more detail for me about the braking system? I have never owned a revo mgx or premier so I can't get really picture what you're talking about. Thanks
Check out this video, it will show you what the REVO IVCB braking looks like and how it works. Starts at about 1:14
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
On 6/27/2013 at 9:15 AM, aavery2 said:Check out this video, it will show you what the REVO IVCB braking looks like and how it works. Starts at about 1:14
That's pretty interesting stuff. I'm really excited
Oh, and check this out. (its a post I found on TT forums):
"I cornered a Shimano factory rep at a local show last weekend. He offered the following to me with no hesitation:
The new Chronarch line will be unveiled at iCast in July. They will be based on the current 2013 JDM-only Metanium line. Sweet reels.
Sizes 50 and 150.
Pricing in the upper 200's range. The will hit stores in August. $279.99?
He could not confirm if all gear ratios will be coming for both left and right, but the current Chronarch line gives love to the lefties, so I'd imagine it will be the same deal here.
The rep also told me the Core line will not exist as a result of the up-market move of the Chronarch line. I'm assuming this means magnesium like the Metanium? Stupid of me not to ask the question."
Also this:
"The rep that told me the Core would be discontinued offered it up with no prompting on my part. I simply asked him when the Metanium line was coming to the US, and he told me it would be the 2014 Chronarch line debuting at ICast, and immediately said the Core was being discontinued as it wouldn't sell given the price discount the new Chronarch line would represent compared to it. It makes sense to me, as would a replacement for the Core line further upmarket into the $400+ range."
So basically cores are going to be discontinued and so are the chronarch e's.. should be some good sales on those soon!
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
This will be interesting. Currently the Core is in a good competitive spot as a high end reel vs the Steeze, MGX etc.
kickerfish1 reply :
I will be ordering a chronarch as soon as the reel is available!
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 6/27/2013 at 9:35 AM, Crankenstein said:That's pretty interesting stuff. I'm really excited
Oh, and check this out. (its a post I found on TT forums):
"I cornered a Shimano factory rep at a local show last weekend. He offered the following to me with no hesitation:
The new Chronarch line will be unveiled at iCast in July. They will be based on the current 2013 JDM-only Metanium line. Sweet reels.
Sizes 50 and 150.
Pricing in the upper 200's range. The will hit stores in August. $279.99?
He could not confirm if all gear ratios will be coming for both left and right, but the current Chronarch line gives love to the lefties, so I'd imagine it will be the same deal here.
The rep also told me the Core line will not exist as a result of the up-market move of the Chronarch line. I'm assuming this means magnesium like the Metanium? Stupid of me not to ask the question."
Also this:
"The rep that told me the Core would be discontinued offered it up with no prompting on my part. I simply asked him when the Metanium line was coming to the US, and he told me it would be the 2014 Chronarch line debuting at ICast, and immediately said the Core was being discontinued as it wouldn't sell given the price discount the new Chronarch line would represent compared to it. It makes sense to me, as would a replacement for the Core line further upmarket into the $400+ range."
So basically cores are going to be discontinued and so are the chronarch e's.. should be some good sales on those soon!
Hmm? Guess we'll have to wait and see about this rumor. On the same TT site Bantam1 states otherwise.
Bantam1 quote: June 17 2013
" The Core is in place with no plans to change in the immediate future."
rockchalk06 reply :
No offense, but the boys over at Shimano are reading this and thinking, "look at these yard birds" lol I gotta wonder if some of what is leaked is leaked "incorrectly" and "on purpose" just to get us all worked up and take the focus off of what's gonna come out!
kickerfish1 reply :
I truly believe the core isn't going to be discontinued. The reel is Shimanos only competing market player against the Steeze in terms of performance and weight. The new Chronarch and Core should be able to co-exist together. Also at some point I hope they work some of the Chronarch E features into the current Curado to help spruce it up. This is all wishful thinkimg on my part, but one can dream.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 6/27/2013 at 1:03 PM, kickerfish1 said:I truly believe the core isn't going to be discontinued. The reel is Shimanos only competing market player against the Steeze in terms of performance and weight. The new Chronarch and Core should be able to co-exist together. Also at some point I hope they work some of the Chronarch E features into the current Curado to help spruce it up. This is all wishful thinkimg on my part, but one can dream.
Yeah the Chronarch moves to new frame,price and leaves the "E" frame without a name and a void in the $200 pricepoint. The 50 will be gone the CUG doesnt have one. Might they switch the Curado back to the "E" frame and call it an H?
Or do they drop the "E" frame and increase the price of the Curado G?
webertime reply :
I'm going to go out on a limb and say the Chronarch E stays at the ~$200 range and then they offer the Ci4 model at ~$275, like they did with the Stradic models. Just guess on my part.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
There you go, I think your limb will hold.
Darren. reply :
On 6/27/2013 at 9:32 PM, webertime said:I'm going to go out on a limb and say the Chronarch E stays at the ~$200 range and then they offer the Ci4 model at ~$275, like they did with the Stradic models. Just guess on my part.
This makes the most sense to me. I'm in love with my CH50e, would eventually love another one (7.1:1 would be awesome, please), so if they keep the white aluminum lineup and add a black Ci4 series, that'd be fine by me.
lmbfisherman reply :
On 6/27/2013 at 10:08 PM, DarrenM said:This makes the most sense to me. I'm in love with my CH50e, would eventually love another one (7.1:1 would be awesome, please), so if they keep the white aluminum lineup and add a black Ci4 series, that'd be fine by me.
Definitely think this will happen, but the 7.1.1 thing probably not.
webertime reply :
On 6/27/2013 at 10:08 PM, DarrenM said:This makes the most sense to me. I'm in love with my CH50e, would eventually love another one (7.1:1 would be awesome, please), so if they keep the white aluminum lineup and add a black Ci4 series, that'd be fine by me.
So I MAY be wrong but you may want to check and see if the gearset from the CORE 50/51 would fit. I seem to recall reading this somewhere.
lmbfisherman reply :
Yeah thehooligan has stated it can be done by using the Core gearset.
bass1980 reply :
I think Shimano should just admit their mistake by messing up their whole line up and correct what's wrong.
Paint the Chronarch back to green and get rid of the G. Seriously I would rather pay $200 for a updated Curado than pay $140 for a watered down Curado. People would accept rising material cost or whatever their reasons were. Few people have accepted the Chronarch and Curado shifting down a level.
It's the equivalent of McDonalds not wanting to charge more for their Big Mac due to inflation and they take away one patty and still call it a Big Mac G.
lmbfisherman reply :
On 6/28/2013 at 1:54 AM, bass1980 said:I think Shimano should just admit their mistake by messing up their whole line up and correct what's wrong.
Paint the Chronarch back to green and get rid of the G. Seriously I would rather pay $200 for a updated Curado than pay $140 for a watered down Curado. People would accept rising material cost or whatever their reasons were. Few people have accepted the Chronarch and Curado shifting down a level.
It's the equivalent of McDonalds not wanting to charge more for their Big Mac due to inflation and they take away one patty and still call it a Big Mac G.
Not arguing with you and yes I'd prefer quality..but I think the G is a quality reel too. I own Curado Es and Gs. I find no issues in performance between them. Actually fish my Gs more than my Es, not because I like them more just happens that way, I actually think I can cast further..but I haven't really tested theory, I could really care less as it has performed for me just as well as any reel in my arsenal. Not saying the Es are inferior just saying the G isn't as inferior as everyone overstates.
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
On 6/27/2013 at 8:40 PM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:Yeah the Chronarch moves to new frame,price and leaves the "E" frame without a name and a void in the $200 pricepoint. The 50 will be gone the CUG doesnt have one. Might they switch the Curado back to the "E" frame and call it an H?
Or do they drop the "E" frame and increase the price of the Curado G?
The curado g is trash.. I think they should stop making it completely and lower the price of the curado e down to 150 or so.
tomustang reply :
It seems like they keep going backward. Last time they dumbed down the citica and curados, they brought out even more sub $130 baitcasting reels. For a company that has a customer service center tell their cheaper customers to buy their higher end products they sure are being absent there.
Forget about shimano getting back on top, they need to get back in line and perhaps they can show us that in July.
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
I want to see Okuma or Pflueger take the spot of shimano.
lmbfisherman reply :
On 6/28/2013 at 2:26 AM, Crankenstein said:The curado g is trash.. I think they should stop making it completely and lower the price of the curado e down to 150 or so.
So I assume you have experience with both? Just asking.
*Hootie reply :
On 6/28/2013 at 2:26 AM, Crankenstein said:The curado g is trash.. I think they should stop making it completely and lower the price of the curado e down to 150 or so.
I have been having a blast with my trash curados. Catching a lot of bass, trash bass I suppose. By the way, if anyone wants to throw theirs in the trash, my trash cans are available.
Hootie
Fishwhittler reply :
On 6/28/2013 at 2:26 AM, Crankenstein said:The curado g is trash.. I think they should stop making it completely and lower the price of the curado e down to 150 or so.
Do you know why they introduced the Curado G in the first place? Because they could no longer afford to sell the Curado E for less than $200, and they needed a new reel at the $150 price point. The Chronarch/Curado E is going to stay at $200.
LgMouthGambler reply :
On 6/28/2013 at 3:00 AM, hootiebenji said:I have been having a blast with my trash curados. Catching a lot of bass, trash bass I suppose. By the way, if anyone wants to throw theirs in the trash, my trash cans are available.
Hootie
Im with Hootie, nobody should fish with trash! My bin is always open for those garbage Curados. 
aavery2 reply :
New Zona Video Chronarch CI4+
down4ttown reply :
You are the man aavery!
iabass8 reply :
ah you beat me to it. i just saw that on my facebook wall. good looking reel.
bass1980 reply :
On 6/28/2013 at 3:15 AM, Fishwhittler said:Do you know why they introduced the Curado G in the first place? Because they could no longer afford to sell the Curado E for less than $200, and they needed a new reel at the $150 price point. The Chronarch/Curado E is going to stay at $200.
Exactly my point. I'd rather buy a $200 Curado with minor upgrades than a less refine Curado for $160 because you know what, I just did. Bought a painted white Curado lol. Even though people knew the Chronarch E is really just the Curado E they still buy it.
Lineup should be Core, Chronarch CI4, Curado E.
Darren. reply :
On 6/28/2013 at 4:34 AM, aavery2 said:New Zona Video Chronarch CI4+
Oh man I wish I didn't watch that. Nobody tell my wife, K? 
I promise not to buy one until some credit cards are paid off.
War Eagle 44 reply :
I can't wait to get my hands on the new Chronarch!! Looks fantastic.
lmbfisherman reply :
d**n that is awesome looking....
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
OOOHHH!! Thinking just might return/exchange CH50E for for this reel.
Know of a release date anyone?
lmbfisherman reply :
I think someone stated August, but most likely it will be fall.
Fishwhittler reply :
Darren. reply :
On 6/28/2013 at 8:02 AM, Fishwhittler said:
Is that an X-Ship mark?! And swept handles!
kickerfish1 reply :
I think so Darren! Pretty awesome looking reel with some additional touches. Looks darn similar to a core from a color scheme standpoint. Was looking at a scorpio but this may be next in line. Got to hope there are a few gear ratios available, and hopefully something blazing fast.
Hooked_On_Bass reply :
Sharp looking Chronarch!
I like it.
ec1 reply :
Looks like a winner. The money in my wallet is about ready to fly out now!
CPBassFishing reply :
now THAT is one sexy piece of machinery. Better start saving......On 6/28/2013 at 8:02 AM, Fishwhittler said:
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
2 bearings per knob please or ability to do such.
loodkop reply :
Ok that is Christmas 2013 sorted. I hope there will be a 50 in the line up.
ColdSVT reply :
yep...im havin one!
stkbassn reply :
yes, please guys, go ahead and start selling those "white curados" at rock bottom prices...If I have to take them off your hands I'll do it. I feel it's my civic duty 
I now own some Chronarch E's along with the Curado E's and I can say without a doubt that the Chronarch just has that little of bit of something special that the Curado doesn't have....and it's not the paint job There's a difference guys. As far as the Chronarch getting back up there in price, oh well, I guess I'll stick with the white ones! How long before the average Joe is priced out of this Shimano game....I just got two Curado G's from JB and I can say they are great!! I don't know what the fuss is about....
Darren. reply :
On 6/29/2013 at 12:32 AM, stkbassn said:yes, please guys, go ahead and start selling those "white curados" at rock bottom prices...If I have to take them off your hands I'll do it. I feel it's my civic duty
Yeah, ditto that. I'd take another 50e or two of those white curados when the rush on the Core-onarchs hits :-). Easier to justify to my wife. 
No, take that back. Won't be easier to justify.
stkbassn reply :
On 6/29/2013 at 12:37 AM, DarrenM said:Yeah, ditto that. I'd take another 50e or two of those white curados when the rush on the Core-onarchs hits :-). Easier to justify to my wife.
Yeah, I'd be careful when trying to pitch that story to the wife.... LOL
thehooligan reply :
The new chronarch in a 50 size definitely has my interest.
Hooligan reply :
Looks right now like it is 2 ratios, 7.6 and 6.2 in just the 150 size. Retail of 269.99.
War Eagle 44 reply :
On 6/29/2013 at 6:47 AM, Hooligan said:Looks right now like it is 2 ratios, 7.6 and 6.2 in just the 150 size. Retail of 269.99.
Nice, I'm totally pumped about these reels.
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
my mistake haha they aren't trash but they are a disappointment for me atleast. I haveused one before and they feel like they are going to fall apart at any moment. All the g series feels that way. The e series just feels stronger and nicer in general.
Oh and how much does it actually cost for the materials for an curado e (rough estimate)? Wouldn't it be around 50-60 dollars for the materials? I saw somewhere else that some reels only cost about $30 to make.
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
I can't wait for the chronarch e's to be on sale in about a month. Ate they discontinuing them or will thy keep them as a medium-high prices reel?
barroncooper reply :
does anybody know it these will have the micro set gears?
Hooligan reply :
I'm unsure of the micro cut gear.
The Chronarch E isn't going on sale, or going anywhere.
Hogsticker reply :
The E's are not going to be discontinued as stated above. New reel is just another Chronarch type to add to the list of many.
NorcalBassin reply :
Wow, that puppy is sweet. Thanks for the vid and pic fellas... definitely has my interest.
rockchalk06 reply :
On 6/30/2013 at 12:45 PM, Hooligan said:I'm unsure of the micro cut gear.
The Chronarch E isn't going on sale, or going anywhere.
I hope not. I finally found something reliable that I like.
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
This reel looks sweet!
dam0007 reply :
Hey guys... umm in a few months there will be 4 Chronarchs, 2 Citicas and 1 Curado in the Flea Market. Just a FYI
Anyone know of any companies that take pre orders?
TNBassin' reply :
On 6/30/2013 at 3:02 PM, rockchalk06 said:I hope not. I finally found something reliable that I like.
Me and you both buddy. I like the look of this new Chronarch, but I'm loving my 201E6s too much to worry about this new one.
rockchalk06 reply :
On 7/2/2013 at 10:59 AM, TNBassin said:Me and you both buddy. I like the look of this new Chronarch, but I'm loving my 201E6s too much to worry about this new one.
I will probably grab one on 6 pay from BP when they come out for grins, but I love my E's to death. I just bought a 200E5 this morning lol
Jrob78 reply :
Shimano has to be thrilled with the buzz this reel is getting, especially considering how the last batch were received.
gripnrip reply :
Looks like I might have to now jump on the Shimano bandwagon!
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