Daiwa Torx Screwdrivers 2024
fin reply :
My new Daiwa Legalis LGLT2500D-XH just arrived via FedEx and I was surprised to see it has torx screws. I clean and oil my reels, and have precision screwdrivers, but I don’t have a set of torx screwdrivers. Parts diagram doesn’t list sizes of screws. Does anyone know the sizes required, inside and outside?
Also, I don’t want to spend $50 on a set of Wiha screwdrivers for a $55 reel. I’ve made it through most of life without ever needing a set of torx screwdrivers, and I doubt I’ll need them for anything else. I’m kind of considering returning/exchanging the reel, but if I could get by with spending a few bucks on a set I’d keep the reel. Everyone talks like anything cheaper than the best will booger the screws?
Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :
I think now a day most of driver bit set come with torx screw bit also. But yes it sucks to have to go into my tool box just for that. Daiwa is weird some reel use flathead and now torx. I might have to rethink getting Daiwa LT series.
fin reply :
On 6/28/2019 at 4:53 AM, JustJames said:I think now a day most of driver bit set come with torx screw bit also. But yes it sucks to have to go into my tool box just for that. Daiwa is weird some reel use flathead and now torx. I might have to rethink getting Daiwa LT series.
This is my first Daiwa. I've tried Shimano and Pflueger spinning reels, so I wanted to try the other big player.
Maybe I should just call Daiwa and ask them about the sizes. If they can't tell me, that will seal the deal.
Scott F reply :
You can buy a set of small torx drivers for less than $10
MN Fisher reply :
On 6/28/2019 at 5:11 AM, fin said:Maybe I should just call Daiwa and ask them about the sizes. If they can't tell me, that will seal the deal.
You could also ask @Delaware Valley Tackle here via PM - he should know too.
Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :
I don’t think it torx, May be hex screw?
Johnbt reply :
Only $9.49 at Harbor Freight. Yeah, it's cheap, but handy.
www.harborfreight.com/100-pc-security-bit-set-with-case-68457.html
Slotted : 3, 4, 4.5, 5 (2), 5.5, 6 (2), 6.5, 7, & 8mmPhillips: #0, #1 (2), #2 (5), #3 Pozi: #0, #1, #2 (5), #3 Square: S0, S1, S2, S3 Star: T8, T10 (2), T15 (2), T20 (2),T25, T27, T30, T40, T45Hex (19 pcs, 2 pc each): 1.5mm, 2mm, 2.5mm, 3mm (x3), 4mm, 5mm, 5.5mm, 6mm, 8mm Slotted with center hole (4 pcs): 4mm, 6mm, 8mm, 10mm Star with center hole (9 pcs): T8, T10, T15, T20, T25, T27, T30, T35, T40 Hex with center hole (6 pcs): 2mm, 2.5mm, 3mm, 4mm, 5mm, 6mm Butterfly (3 pcs): #1, #2, #3 Tri-wing (4 pcs): #1, #2, #3, #4 Windmill (3 pcs): 6, 8, 10 M-type (3 pcs): M5, M6, M8 60mm magnetic bit holder 1/4 in. x 50mm socket adapter 1/4 in. x 25mm socket adapter 1/4 in. x 25mm coupler Y-shape hook driver
You'll need a handle if you don't have one or two already.
fin reply :
On 6/28/2019 at 5:36 AM, JustJames said:I don’t think it torx, May be hex screw?
Definitely not hex. I wish.
Is that not torx?
MN Fisher reply :
Yep - that's Torx
Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :
Yup torx luckily I have a set in hand, hopefully I’ll fit my new daiwa (if I can find one)
fin reply :
On 6/28/2019 at 6:38 AM, JustJames said:Yup torx luckily I have a set in hand, hopefully I’ll fit my new daiwa (if I can find one)
I got this one from Academy, 25% off one day online flash sale a couple days ago. I've been waiting for something like that for a while.
Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :
I’m looking for either 1000d or 2000s. Can’t decide yet. I don’t want to spent too much on spinning setup I’m cheap you know lol.
fin reply :
On 6/28/2019 at 6:55 AM, JustJames said:I don’t want to spent too much on spinning setup I’m cheap you know lol.
I know plenty about cheap. This is a high-dollar reel to me. It replaces a reel that I had shimmed up with a piece of copper foil to keep it going - a $25 Shimano Sienna that I fished with regularly for 5 years.
WRB reply :
Usually any assembly like a fishing reel requiring special tool the tool is supplied.
Tom
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
On 6/28/2019 at 5:35 AM, MN Fisher said:You could also ask @Delaware Valley Tackle here via PM - he should know too.
I have a set. I’ll look at them and see if I remember which one.
waymont reply :
On 6/28/2019 at 8:40 AM, WRB said:Usually any assembly like a fishing reel requiring special tool the tool is supplied.
Tom
Not so with these reels. 2-3 different sizes are needed to fully disassemble these reels.
torx are not considered special tools.
WRB reply :
On 6/28/2019 at 11:07 AM, waymont said:Not so with these reels. 2-3 different sizes are needed to fully disassemble these reels.
torx are not considered special tools.
Phillips (cross slot) , slotted and hex are USA standards, TorX is a special tool in every mechanic and aerospace tool box.
Tom
MN Fisher reply :
On 6/28/2019 at 11:24 AM, WRB said:Phillips (cross slot) , slotted and hex are USA standards, TorX is a special tool in every mechanic and aerospace tool box.
Tom
One job I worked at, we were building specialty parts-cleaning machines for companies like Seagate and Hutchinson Tech. Anytime the specs called for a Torx-head screw, we had to special order those...they are NOT standard. Slot, Phillips, Hex we carried in stock...those are the standard.
waymont reply :
On 6/28/2019 at 11:24 AM, WRB said:Phillips (cross slot) , slotted and hex are USA standards, TorX is a special tool in every mechanic and aerospace tool box.
Tom
I disagree. It’s not a special tool. It’s not a proprietary tool specific to that reel. It’s just not a philips or flat bit. Torx are used in all sorts of things from computers, cell phones to bathroom fixtures. Very unspecial...haha
On 6/28/2019 at 11:39 AM, MN Fisher said:One job I worked at, we were building specialty parts-cleaning machines for companies like Seagate and Hutchinson Tech. Anytime the specs called for a Torx-head screw, we had to special order those...they are NOT standard. Slot, Phillips, Hex we carried in stock...those are the standard.
Anyone can buy torx drivers at any Home Depot or Amazon these days.
WRB reply :
On 6/28/2019 at 11:41 AM, waymont said:I disagree. It’s not a special tool. It’s not a proprietary tool specific to that reel. It’s just not a philips or flat bit. Torx are used in all sorts of things from computers, cell phones to bathroom fixtures. Very unspecial...haha
You can disagree but try introducing a TorX fasteners to US OEM's. Metric fasteners were suppose to be universal back in the 70's and still not universally accepted.
I had to create ASTM standards for aerospace metric thread sizes for aerospace industry use in the interconnect industry. TorX is far from a standard use fastener.
Tom
waymont reply :
On 6/28/2019 at 11:49 AM, WRB said:You can disagree but try introducing a TorX fasteners to US OEM's. Metric fasteners were suppose to be universal back in the 70's and still not universally accepted.
I had to create ASTM standards for aerospace metric thread sizes for aerospace industry use in the interconnect industry. TorX is far from a standard use fastener.
Tom
Again, they can be bought so easily and are used in lots of different things. You said “special tools” would be supplied with the reel. Not in this case.
WRB reply :
TorX is a non standard fastener, Daiwa is making a mistake not supplying special tools angler do not have to servive the reel. End of conversation.
Tom
waymont reply :
On 6/28/2019 at 12:04 PM, WRB said:TorX is a non standard fastener, Daiwa is making a mistake not supplying special tools angler do not have to servive the reel. End of conversation.
Tom
You’re right. It’s very special
WRB reply :
On 6/28/2019 at 12:30 PM, waymont said:You’re right. It’s very special
No, it's proprietary as you first noted, you are not wrong Daiwa is.
Tom
Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :
I think Okuma also use torx screw with their spinning reels. And yes US IS WEIRD.
I remember first time I saw torx screw in microwave, I had to order the new set of bit. I thought they have it their so consumer cannot just open the thing too easy.
Nowadays a lot of wood fasteners also come with torx screw for strong fastened since torx have more surface than other type, and yes they provide the bit (same as hex) in every package.
fin reply :
On 6/28/2019 at 8:40 AM, WRB said:Usually any assembly like a fishing reel requiring special tool the tool is supplied.
Tom
I suspect the reason for their use is to prevent customers from servicing their reels. I don't believe they are used because of their 'superior' design. The screw used on the bail arm lever is one of those common/phillips screws, where you can use either type of screwdriver. They should use the same type of screws throughout and use the same size wherever possible to reduce the amount of tools required.
I guess these manufacturers think customers are going to send their reels to an authorized repair facility to have them oiled? Or do they think a reel can go a year without being serviced? I wonder what goes on in the heads of some of these decision-makers.
On 6/28/2019 at 11:41 AM, waymont said:It’s not a special tool.
It's special in my shop.
On 6/28/2019 at 2:31 PM, JustJames said:I think Okuma also use torx screw with their spinning reels.
I know they do on some at least, because I was interested in one of their reels until I noticed it had torx.
On 6/28/2019 at 8:41 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:I have a set. I’ll look at them and see if I remember which one.
Thanks. There are several sizes used on the outside, I don't know about the inside. I kind of doubt they are used inside.
VolFan reply :
I just bought 10 $5 boxes of screws to fix a fence with. Each box had a Torx head in it to fit the screws. You would think Daiwa could throw one in on a reel.
fishwizzard reply :
It shocks me that there are people out there who don’t get excited about the opportunity to buy a new set of drivers.
Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :
My wife for one wouldn’t be so happy if I said I need a new set of tool.
Fishes in trees reply :
Interesting discussion on torx fasteners. I haven't noticed that torx heads are especially common- but I haven't noticed that they are that uncommon either. I think the it is a good idea to carry driver heads to cover any situation. I do. One set in the garage, another in the fishing shed, another one either in the fishing truck tool box or the boat tool box. And even then I've had issues finding the correct tool from time to time.
I think that tool collections are kind of like Pokemon, in that "you've got to get them all". More often than not, the tool you don't have is the one that you need. This could be why they are always nice to me when I wander into Harbor Freight.
GReb reply :
Torx is fairly popular in electronics. A lot of decking screws are torx now too. I actually like them better than Phillips. They grip the head much better and are harder to strip.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
On 6/28/2019 at 5:31 PM, fin said:
I suspect the reason for their use is to prevent customers from servicing their reels. I don't believe they are used because of their 'superior' design. The screw used on the bail arm lever is one of those common/phillips screws, where you can use either type of screwdriver. They should use the same type of screws throughout and use the same size wherever possible to reduce the amount of tools required.
I guess these manufacturers think customers are going to send their reels to an authorized repair facility to have them oiled? Or do they think a reel can go a year without being serviced? I wonder what goes on in the heads of some of these decision-makers.
It's special in my shop.
I know they do on some at least, because I was interested in one of their reels until I noticed it had torx.
Thanks. There are several sizes used on the outside, I don't know about the inside. I kind of doubt they are used inside.
I have a set of T5-T10. I want to say the 8 and 10 but The whole set was inexpensive.
jimmyjoe reply :
I worked in appliance repair for 38 years, and from about '90 or '95, Torx was ubiquitous. I've worn out several sets, T-10 to T-25, plus some smarmy brand-unique sizes. If you would have told me that there were people and places here in the U.S. that weren't familiar with Torx, I wouldn't have believed you.
The brand-unique sizes were considered "special", and were sourced from that brand. The standard sizes weren't considered special at all.
So .... I guess I got educated, didn't I? jj
fin reply :
On 6/29/2019 at 11:13 PM, jimmyjoe said:I worked in appliance repair for 38 years, and from about '90 or '95, Torx was ubiquitous. I've worn out several sets, T-10 to T-25, plus some smarmy brand-unique sizes. If you would have told me that there were people and places here in the U.S. that weren't familiar with Torx, I wouldn't have believed you.
The brand-unique sizes were considered "special", and were sourced from that brand. The standard sizes weren't considered special at all.
So .... I guess I got educated, didn't I? jj
I guess it depends on your definition of 'special'. I couldn't say what percentage of mechanics have a full set (24?) of torx, but I think it's safe to say that most households don't have a set of torx.
Most households do have a phillips and a flathead screwdriver. Most households don't have a set of hex keys, but more households have hex keys than torx drivers.
I think we all could agree on that much.
Shimano_1 reply :
I shoot pse bows and went through this same train of thought when they started using torx heads. I bought a set of bits and have actually used them on a lot of things since. Just buy a cheap set and be done with it. If the only complaint I had about a reel was the type of screw head I'd consider it a good buy.
Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :
@finI agreed
The last time I use star bit (torx) when built my work bench with 4x4, since then every time I shop for 2.5” and up screw, it has to be star drive screw.
The one that I’d call special, is torx bit (security) with hole in it, where used a lot in appliances.
fin reply :
On 6/30/2019 at 6:02 AM, Shimano_1 said:If the only complaint I had about a reel was the type of screw head I'd consider it a good buy.
There are plenty of good reels in that price range that I wouldn't have to buy a set of drivers for. It increases the price of the reel in my case.
On 6/30/2019 at 6:02 AM, Shimano_1 said:Just buy a cheap set and be done with it.
That's what I plan to do. I like the reel so far. There was an older thread about Daiwa using soft metal screws where people were saying you need to use quality drivers. Nobody has voiced that concern in this thread, so I feel a little better about buying a cheap set.
https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/211806-screwdrivers-for-reel-maintenance/
Crow Horse reply :
And now to add to the confusion, is Torx Plus....
Drive System Comparison
dodgeguy reply :
On 6/28/2019 at 6:28 PM, VolFan said:I just bought 10 $5 boxes of screws to fix a fence with. Each box had a Torx head in it to fit the screws. You would think Daiwa could throw one in on a reel.
That would cost you an extra $50.
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