I saw one of these in a tackle shop today, seemed like a heckava nice rod for $50 bucks. They had a 6'6" medium and a 6'6" medium heavy. The medium heavy seemed a little tip-heavy but the medium was really lightweight and seemed well balanced. It actually felt lighter in weight than the Vendetta. Anybody bought one yet?
No I want it tho..the local tackleshop here can't keep em in stock and none have come back according to them. At 50$ worth a shot. Keep receipt
Ordered one from T.W. Sent it back,the eyes were put on off center.
Abu Garcia Vendetta seems decent, and only 20 bucks more. Might give that a shot.
Got one no complaints yet. not sure how i feel about the foam over the cork...we'll see..
I have the 6'-3" model and I love it.
The Vendetta fell apart after 3 days of jig fishing with only 30 pound braid. (Reel seat broke off LOL). I bet the Vengeance wouldn't last a day. It's the first bad Abu product I have bought and I understand why they were not used in the Classic.
agree with Tin right there. I bought a vendetta back in march, and went out few times. The rod tip broke off when I tried to set the hook.
I bought a spinning one in 7' M last year at the end of the season. I bought it to use as a stick bait rod. They tend to run a little heavier that the ratings. For example I would really like to classify mine as more of a medium heavy. The pole is pretty decent and I only use it for stick baits and light cranks. I have only used it a handful of times but it seems to be a decent rod for the price. I will say I don't like the foam, it marks and cuts a little too easy.
QuoteThe Vendetta fell apart after 3 days of jig fishing with only 30 pound braid. (Reel seat broke off LOL). I bet the Vengeance wouldn't last a day. It's the first bad Abu product I have bought and I understand why they were not used in the Classic.
I've been using my Vendetta rods for about 6 months with no problems whatsoever. Did you send yours back under the warranty coverage?
Quoteagree with Tin right there. I bought a vendetta back in march, and went out few times. The rod tip broke off when I tried to set the hook.
That's the first time I've heard of that happening with a Vendetta. Try googling "Cumara broken tip" or "Crucial broken tip" both provide a wealth of reading material!
Not yet. I really liked the rod and it was the first time I have had an issue with a Abu product. It just seems like the reel seat was super glued on and after winching in some fish it became loose and eventually broke. Whatever, worth the gamble and hoping of finding another good cheap rod.
I still love my Revo's. Just by looking at the rod I didn't think it would hold up like I wanted it to. The specs were all good on it, it was a 7' H and I was just planning on using it for pitching jigs.
QuoteQuoteagree with Tin right there. I bought a vendetta back in march, and went out few times. The rod tip broke off when I tried to set the hook.That's the first time I've heard of that happening with a Vendetta. Try googling "Cumara broken tip" or "Crucial broken tip" both provide a wealth of reading material!
I did exchange for a new Vendetta, and no problem with it right now.
QuoteThat's the first time I've heard of that happening with a Vendetta. Try googling "Cumara broken tip" or "Crucial broken tip" both provide a wealth of reading material!
I did a google search as you suggested for the Cumara. I wouldn't call it a "wealth of reading material". The 4th result was this thread...
QuoteQuoteThat's the first time I've heard of that happening with a Vendetta. Try googling "Cumara broken tip" or "Crucial broken tip" both provide a wealth of reading material!
I did a google search as you suggested for the Cumara. I wouldn't call it a "wealth of reading material". The 4th result was this thread...
This was 3rd in my search with a whole bunch more pages bringing up the rear.
Yep. With the majority of them having little or nothing to do with Cumaras and broken tips.
When doing a similar search for "shoe broken tip", google came up with 5 million hits....can put just about anything in google and come up with a million+ hits that have absolutley nothing to do with the information you are looking for.
QuoteYep. With the majority of them having little or nothing to do with Cumaras and broken tips.When doing a similar search for "shoe broken tip", google came up with 5 million hits....can put just about anything in google and come up with a million+ hits that have absolutley nothing to do with the information you are looking for.
But a whole lot more than for Vendetta broken tips. More complaints about the Cumura and Crucial
The Vendetta is new. Cumaras and Crucial not so much. It is a silly comparison either way.
Since you brought it up, a google search for "vendetta broken tip" had over 3 million hits. "Cumara broken tip" has 881.
Are you trying to say the Vendettas are better than the Cumaras?
QuoteThe Vendetta is new. Cumaras and Crucial not so much. It is a silly comparison either way.Since you brought it up, a google search for "vendetta broken tip" had over 3 million hits. "Cumara broken tip" has 881.
Are you trying to say the Vendettas are better than the Cumaras?
Yet none of the Vendetta's referred to Vendetta rods, oh, except the Bass Resource thread, this one. Am I trying to say it? No, the proof is in the google! ;D
Lets give it 2 years and see what people think of it then. By that time their warranty will be up and will be out of luck if they run into any problems.
QuoteLets give it 2 years and see what people think of it then. By that time their warranty will be up and will be out of luck if they run into any problems.
The rods have a 3 year warranty, most manufacturer's defects become apparent within that time, in which case it's covered. Unless of course you're the type of person who would cheat on a warranty claim by sending something back that was stepped on or closed in a door or eaten by the dog.
Well, this topic is going the wrong direction...
QuoteWell, this topic is going the wrong direction...
I have noticed it happens on certain manufacturer threads. Well, when a certain manufacturer's products are questioned as to their quality.
It is more a problem with people giving misinformation than anything. Giving the impression that the Vendetta is better than a Cumara due to tip breakage problems is flat out false.
People come here for purchase questions and a lot use this site exclusively when making a decision on what rod to purchase. They should be given the truth not infomercial like claims by people trying to push a product that they purchased.
I have the 7' H and it's been fine so far. Only used it 2 or 3 times though. Its decent but nothing special, but seems pretty good for 50 bucks. Nothing worth fighting over.
QuoteIt is more a problem with people giving misinformation than anything. Giving the impression that the Vendetta is better than a Cumara due to tip breakage problems is flat out false.People come here for purchase questions and a lot use this site exclusively when making a decision on what rod to purchase. They should be given the truth not infomercial like claims by people trying to push a product that they purchased.
There is nothing I have stated that is false. I have no financial stake in Abu Garcia or Pure Fishing. You might want to choose your words more wisely and refrain from impugning anyone's integrity or honesty.
I didn't make up claims of superiority of any brand any more than I made up claims of broken tackle. I backed up my point with evidence as opposed to innuendo and personal attacks.
Who resurrected my month old thread and then started fighting over it? :-?
There was no "wealth of reading material". A google search turned up maybe 2 cases where the tip had broke and one said it could have been because of shipping. You know very well that there would not be much info on the vendetta because it is so new. You use this as "evidence" that there are no problems with this rod and even allude to it being better than rods 2-3 times the price.
I did not intend to argue with you. I just wont sit and watch the spreading of misinformation.
EDIT: There is no fight here. People can disagree on things without it being a fight.
QuoteThere was no "wealth of reading material". A google search turned up maybe 2 cases where the tip had broke and one said it could have been because of shipping. You know very well that there would not be much info on the vendetta because it is so new. You use this as "evidence" that there are no problems with this rod and even allude to it being better than rods 2-3 times the price.I did not intend to argue with you. I just wont sit and watch the spreading of misinformation.
EDIT: There is no fight here. People can disagree on things without it being a fight.
Did I claim the Vendetta rods didn't break? No. I asked if the warranty was used. That's not misinformation or claiming it's better than a rod 3X it's price.
1. From *** review:
Customer feedback on Shimano Cumara Reaction Casting Rods
Comments:Got the 6'9 MH model not long ago and broke the rod tip right off on the second use, a highly touted product that failed miserably, far too lightly built, splintered like a dried out twig...not at all happy with Shimano.
From:Zach: Michigan, USA
2. TackleTour Forum
Re: Shimano Cumara
by stefano » Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:08 am
I had one The 6'8" Mh
To begin with I found the tip to be ligth for a MH rod.
My worst fear came to reality when while bringing in a 4lb. bass the tip snapped off.
3. Another forum
Re: Shimano Cumara or Falcon Cara (aubassman) » 10:00 PM 2/11/2010 Reply Edit
In my opinion, there's a big price difference between these two rods unless you can get the cumara discounted. i think i know where you are getting your falcons since you are in Auburn. you can get the cara's for $130-$160 and the cumaras are $200-$230 i believe. i haven't seen them discounted anywhere.
i disagree that the cumara is a better built rod. i had bad experiences with the cumara, but i had great customer service on the ones i broke. the foam deteriorated in less than a year, the coating on the reel seat came off and i had few other problems. that is just my experience though. from the posts most folks have had very good experiences with them. i fished them for over a year and they weren't for me.
that's just 3 from the first page. Texas Fishing Forum, Florida Forum, Louisiana Forum and Alabama Forums have similar tales of woe. The Vendetta performs beyond it's price point.
I don't feel it's a fight either, just a disagreement.
QuoteQuoteagree with Tin right there. I bought a vendetta back in march, and went out few times. The rod tip broke off when I tried to set the hook.That's the first time I've heard of that happening with a Vendetta. Try googling "Cumara broken tip" or "Crucial broken tip" both provide a wealth of reading material!
My post on fighting was meant to be a joke, should have put some smileys after it. But anyway, what does a Cumara and Crucial broken tips have to do with anything? I don't recall anyone mentioning or asking about Shimano.
QuoteQuoteQuoteagree with Tin right there. I bought a vendetta back in march, and went out few times. The rod tip broke off when I tried to set the hook.That's the first time I've heard of that happening with a Vendetta. Try googling "Cumara broken tip" or "Crucial broken tip" both provide a wealth of reading material!
My post on fighting was meant to be a joke, should have put some smileys after it. But anyway, what does a Cumara and Crucial broken tips have to do with anything? I don't recall anyone mentioning or asking about Shimano.
Someone mentioned coming here seeking information about rods. I was simply pointing out it was the first time I'd heard about a broken tip on Vendetta but I had read about quite a few incidents with the Cumara and Crucial tips breaking.
This "you dare not question Shimano" mentality causes more problems than any other on any forum. Don't think it's true? There's a PowerPro thread regarding roughness where guys are actually questioning how the guy set up his rod.
My comments had nothing to do with brand loyalty.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteagree with Tin right there. I bought a vendetta back in march, and went out few times. The rod tip broke off when I tried to set the hook.That's the first time I've heard of that happening with a Vendetta. Try googling "Cumara broken tip" or "Crucial broken tip" both provide a wealth of reading material!
My post on fighting was meant to be a joke, should have put some smileys after it. But anyway, what does a Cumara and Crucial broken tips have to do with anything? I don't recall anyone mentioning or asking about Shimano.
Someone mentioned coming here seeking information about rods. I was simply pointing out it was the first time I'd heard about a broken tip on Vendetta but I had read about quite a few incidents with the Cumara and Crucial tips breaking.
This "you dare not question Shimano" mentality causes more problems than any other on any forum. Don't think it's true? There's a PowerPro thread regarding roughness where guys are actually questioning how the guy set up his rod.
That cracks me up. So, I ask a question about a Vengeance rod, nothing else, not a Vengeance vs. Crucial or Cumura, you bring up these other rods and then complain about people defending Shimano? No one mentioned Shimano until you did. Relax and go fishin'
You all should just go fishing.
I was just about to buy two vendettas but now im skeptical. What might get me to buy them anyways was the price.
Someone else listed a place called aquasuperstore, they have the vendettas for 50.00!
Here is the link
ww.aquasuperstore.com/products/Abu-Garcia-Vendetta-30-Ton-Graphite-6'9"-Medium-Heavy-Casting-Rod~62911.html
Can you go wrong on a 80.00 rod for 50.00?
Im still looking for this deal on falcons or lamiglass rods. Anybody have some good online retailers they would like to share?
QuoteI was just about to buy two vendettas but now im skeptical. What might get me to buy them anyways was the price.Someone else listed a place called aquasuperstore, they have the vendettas for 50.00!
Here is the link
ww.aquasuperstore.com/products/Abu-Garcia-Vendetta-30-Ton-Graphite-6'9"-Medium-Heavy-Casting-Rod~62911.html
Can you go wrong on a 80.00 rod for 50.00?
Im still looking for this deal on falcons or lamiglass rods. Anybody have some good online retailers they would like to share?
I'll put it this way, the Vendetta would be a great rod @ $150.00. It would be an excellent rod @ $200.00. So be confident @ $80.00. Dance in the streets @ $50.00.