Shimano Metanium MGL 2024
Patrickcatalano reply :
So in two days I went from looking at the Curado K to now seriously considering getting the Metanium. Is it worth the 400$ or should I pass?
portiabrat reply :
I have both. The Metanium is smoother and casts farther than the Curado K. The value of that is up to you.
Joshua van Wyk reply :
Take a look at the Chrinarch Mgl, I think it's a happy medium between the two reels. I dont have a Metanium to compare it to but its definetly nicer than the Curado.
Patrickcatalano reply :
On 1/12/2019 at 2:16 AM, Joshua van Wyk said:Take a look at the Chrinarch Mgl, I think it's a happy medium between the two reels. I dont have a Metanium to compare it to but its definetly nicer than the Curado.
The chronarch is the other one I’m considering.
BaitFinesse reply :
The met will cast lighter weight baits better than the Curado K but the aluminum main gear doesn't hold up over time and will get geary feeling and buzz in your hand when the handle us turned. The good news is that the Curado K brass main gear is compatible with the met and can be swapped in down the road.
ItsHardwick reply :
No metanium but I do own both chronarch mgls and curado ks. In my opinion it’s worth the extra money for the chronarch. Just feels like a much nicer reel and they are oh so smooth.
Stephen B reply :
On 1/12/2019 at 3:40 AM, BaitFinesse said:The met will cast lighter weight baits better than the Curado K but the aluminum main gear doesn't hold up over time and will get geary feeling and buzz in your hand when the handle us turned. The good news is that the Curado K brass main gear is compatible with the met and can be swapped in down the road.
I've owned a Metanium MGL and had absolutely no issues and still feels as smooth as when I bought it. I have spoken with many reel techs from Shimano as well as Dan Isaac at Reelex and they say the aluminium gears don't like current or fishing really heavy resistance baits. I only fish bottom contact stuff on my MGLs. If you do that, no issues will arise.
BTW swapping out from aluminium to brass main gears will void your warranty with Shimano. Just make sure its what you want to do and its worth it.
BaitFinesse reply :
On 1/12/2019 at 3:52 AM, Stephen B said:I've owned a Metanium MGL and had absolutely no issues and still feels as smooth as when I bought it. I have spoken with many reel techs from Shimano as well as Dan Isaac at Reelex and they say the aluminium gears don't like current or fishing really heavy resistance baits. I only fish bottom contact stuff on my MGLs. If you do that, no issues will arise.
BTW swapping out from aluminium to brass main gears will void your warranty with Shimano.
The warranty is usually long gone by the time the aluminum main gear wears out. It is the only know permanent fix to the Metanium buzz problem.
LonnieP reply :
On 1/12/2019 at 1:28 AM, Patrickcatalano said:So in two days I went from looking at the Curado K to now seriously considering getting the Metanium. Is it worth the 400$ or should I pass?
You can buy a JDM Metanium for 295 from Digitaka
Patrickcatalano reply :
On 1/12/2019 at 3:52 AM, Stephen B said:I've owned a Metanium MGL and had absolutely no issues and still feels as smooth as when I bought it. I have spoken with many reel techs from Shimano as well as Dan Isaac at Reelex and they say the aluminium gears don't like current or fishing really heavy resistance baits. I only fish bottom contact stuff on my MGLs. If you do that, no issues will arise.
BTW swapping out from aluminium to brass main gears will void your warranty with Shimano. Just make sure its what you want to do and its worth it.
Good to see you again Stephan, Is it the Curado that has the Aluminium Gears? I changed my mind to now between the Metanium and Chronarch.
Stephen B reply :
On 1/12/2019 at 11:51 AM, Patrickcatalano said:
Good to see you again Stephan, Is it the Curado that has the Aluminium Gears? I changed my mind to now between the Metanium and Chronarch.
Hey buddy! The Curado has brass gears in them stock. All the reels you are looking at are phenomenal and no way you can go wrong. If you aren't set on spending the money on a Met MGL, I highly suggest the Chronarch MGL.
johnD. reply :
I had a chronarch mgl , still have a met mgl. The chronarch is no metanium as far as longevity goes.
Like the post above states , met mgl below $300 from japan.
18RangerZ520L reply :
I have 10 Metanium MGL's, zero issues.
My vote is for the Metanium. 
Good luck.
LxVE Bassin reply :
I would buy 2 curados and use the left over money on something else.
Patrickcatalano reply :
On 1/12/2019 at 11:45 AM, LonnieP said:You can buy a JDM Metanium for 295 from Digitaka
Is that website to be trusted? I looked there and all of the prices are in Yen.
NHBull reply :
On 1/13/2019 at 12:07 AM, Patrickcatalano said:Is that website to be trusted? I looked there and all of the prices are in Yen.
Very reputable.......and I love my METs
LonnieP reply :
On 1/13/2019 at 12:07 AM, Patrickcatalano said:Is that website to be trusted? I looked there and all of the prices are in Yen.
Click on details to the right of the price in yen, then when the next page comes up the USD will show under the Yen amount .
Patrickcatalano reply :
On 1/13/2019 at 12:21 AM, LonnieP said:Click on details to the right of the price in yen, then when the next page comes up the USD will show under the Yen amount .
Thank you again everyone, my only concern is that they don’t have warranty’s on reels shipped to America? Is that true?
I found it on this forum
BaitFinesse reply :
On 1/13/2019 at 1:44 AM, Patrickcatalano said:Thank you again everyone, my only concern is that they don’t have warranty’s on reels shipped to America? Is that true?
I found it on this forum
Yes there is no US warrenty with the JDM reels. For a lot of us this is not a concern as we either don't have issues out of the box with the reels or just fix whatever is wrong with the reel ourselves. It is a bit of a risk but worth it. The only known issue with these reels are the brittle main gear which can be fixed yourself with a Curado K main gear from The Tackle Trap.
Patrickcatalano reply :
On 1/13/2019 at 2:14 AM, BaitFinesse said:Yes there is no US warrenty with the JDM reels. For a lot of us this is not a concern as we either don't have issues out of the box with the reels or just fix whatever is wrong with the reel ourselves. It is a bit of a risk but worth it. The only known issue with these reels are the brittle main gear which can be fixed yourself with a Curado K main gear from The Tackle Trap.
Alright thank you. I think I’m gonna order the Metanium from there. Only concern is what you said about the “main gear being brittle”, how long would it last if I don’t change the gear? I’ll be honest, I’m not the best at assembling things.
BaitFinesse reply :
On 1/13/2019 at 3:01 AM, Patrickcatalano said:
Alright thank you. I think I’m gonna order the Metanium from there. Only concern is what you said about the “main gear being brittle”, how long would it last if I don’t change the gear? I’ll be honest, I’m not the best at assembling things.
There are different reports of how long they last depending on use. If it gets finesse use tossing 1/4 oz baits I'm sure it will last longer than pitching jigs or high resistance cranking applications. Gear swaps are easy to do. I've replaced most of my aluminum gears in my Daiwas with brass ones over time. Worst case scenario you can send the reel in to the Tackle Trap and they can install the Curado K gear. I think they do a deal on the swap and a carbontex drag upgrade. It I was in the market for one that would be the 1st thing I do but that's me. I'm not an aluminum gear fan.
TNReb reply :
Does Digitaka ship from the US or Japan? I looked all over their site and couldnt confirm.
If they come from Japan, how long does shipping typically take?
Patrickcatalano reply :
On 1/13/2019 at 4:34 AM, BaitFinesse said:There are different reports of how long they last depending on use. If it gets finesse use tossing 1/4 oz baits I'm sure it will last longer than pitching jigs or high resistance cranking applications. Gear swaps are easy to do. I've replaced most of my aluminum gears in my Daiwas with brass ones over time. Worst case scenario you can send the reel in to the Tackle Trap and they can install the Curado K gear. I think they do a deal on the swap and a carbontex drag upgrade. It I was in the market for one that would be the 1st thing I do but that's me. I'm not an aluminum gear fan.
Thank you! I just purchased the metanium MGL online about 20 minutes ago.
new2BC4bass reply :
On 1/13/2019 at 5:12 AM, TNReb said:Does Digitaka ship from the US or Japan? I looked all over their site and couldnt confirm.
If they come from Japan, how long does shipping typically take?
Recently bought a reel from Japan Tackle. Shipping was quicker than I had thought it would be. Don't remember the number of days, but I am guessing around 4-5 days to arrive.
CrankFate reply :
Great reel. Too chromed out bling for my tastes. But I don’t believe claims that the gears are worse. People said that about stainless gears, I have reels with stainless gears, they stay truer to how they felt fresh out of the box than brass. I’d expect that to be the case with aluminum, because the “aluminum” in a metanium is probably that hard light titanium feeling low mass metal found in most newer reels in the worm and gearshaft and not forged aluminum foil.
johnD. reply :
On 1/13/2019 at 5:12 AM, TNReb said:Does Digitaka ship from the US or Japan? I looked all over their site and couldnt confirm.
If they come from Japan, how long does shipping typically take?
The last one I ordered from digitaka it took about 9 days. They wait 3 days before it ships idk why. But those days are worth it for the money you save.
BaitFinesse reply :
On 1/13/2019 at 9:29 AM, CrankFate said:Great reel. Too chromed out bling for my tastes. But I don’t believe claims that the gears are worse. People said that about stainless gears, I have reels with stainless gears, they stay truer to how they felt fresh out of the box than brass. I’d expect that to be the case with aluminum, because the “aluminum” in a metanium is probably that hard light titanium feeling low mass metal found in most newer reels in the worm and gearshaft and not forged aluminum foil.
The issue is well documented and the gear is indeed aluminum. Many aluminum gears become geary feeling and noisy over time compared to brass but the Metanium micro module aluminum gears are a particularly bad offender with even reports of broken teeth. Fortunately this great reel has a remidy in the Curado K brass micro module main gear. I believe they are compatible with the 13 Metanium too.
CrankFate reply :
On 1/13/2019 at 1:27 PM, BaitFinesse said:The issue is well documented and the gear is indeed aluminum. Many aluminum gears become geary feeling and noisy over time compared to brass but the Metanium micro module aluminum gears are a particularly bad offender with even reports of broken teeth. Fortunately this great reel has a remidy in the Curado K brass micro module main gear. I believe they are compatible with the 13 Metanium too.
I just don’t believe these types of claims. I could be wrong, since I don’t have this reel, but with the internet and grey market items, there have to be lots of bootlegs and refurbs out there. I don’t believe a top of the line reel from a top brand would have that problem. The manufacturer would change the problem part. I’ve never personally seen any problem like this with any product (especially rods which are easier to break). I’m sure it could happen, but even my fake $18 Chinese plastic reels don’t have these types of problems. If anything, these reports are all the reason it’s best to stick to legitimate sellers. Meanwhile, my Abus all have a Geary sound and feel fresh out of the box and they’re brass!!
The only thing i could see causing sound, especially on micro gear teeth, is grease. Grease causes noise and grip on small teeth, which is why I don’t grease these parts on small reels that only see freshwater. Even plastic teeth will get Geary once greased. The sound of grease on a small plastic worm gear absolutely ticks me off every turn of the handle.
Edit: hey I didn’t say “ticks” me off!
michaelsrex reply :
I also own JDM Met Mgls. I was a little concerned about the spool being a little more shallow than the US version. That was not worth the price difference as I got mine new from ebay for $265. It also holds an entire 150 yard spool of seaguar 30lb smackdown!
bigfruits reply :
On 1/12/2019 at 11:45 AM, LonnieP said:You can buy a JDM Metanium for 295 from Digitaka
i have ordered 5 reels from them in the past (including Met MGL). gets to my house quicker than TW.
BaitFinesse reply :
On 1/13/2019 at 11:12 PM, CrankFate said:I just don’t believe these types of claims. I could be wrong, since I don’t have this reel, but with the internet and grey market items, there have to be lots of bootlegs and refurbs out there. I don’t believe a top of the line reel from a top brand would have that problem. The manufacturer would change the problem part. I’ve never personally seen any problem like this with any product (especially rods which are easier to break). I’m sure it could happen, but even my fake $18 Chinese plastic reels don’t have these types of problems. If anything, these reports are all the reason it’s best to stick to legitimate sellers. Meanwhile, my Abus all have a Geary sound and feel fresh out of the box and they’re brass!!
The only thing i could see causing sound, especially on micro gear teeth, is grease. Grease causes noise and grip on small teeth, which is why I don’t grease these parts on small reels that only see freshwater. Even plastic teeth will get Geary once greased. The sound of grease on a small plastic worm gear absolutely ticks me off every turn of the handle.
Edit: hey I didn’t say “ticks” me off!
Grease actually smoothens out and quiets rough and noisy gear sets. There has been a lot of discussion on what is the best grease to use to get rid of the Metanium Buzz even if temporary.
There tons of discussion of the issue and how to remidy it put there. Worth while reads:
http://www.tackletour.net/viewtopic.php?t=76305
https://www.tackletour.net/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=75776
http://www.tackletour.net/viewtopic.php?t=74837
https://www.tackletour.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=77338
xxRambo_21xx reply :
if you are gonna do a lot of cranking then get the bantam MGL
freelancer27 reply :
Had the Metanium MGL and still have the Chronarch.
For the money, I would definetely go with the Chronarch. Overall I actually think it is the better reel. It is more robust (Brass gears), it is more compact for palmability and the coating is much more robust (once the silver coating of the Metanium has scratches it looks really bad).
After roughly 5 months my Metanium also started to feel grindy, the Chronarch did not.
If they were the same price, I would still go with the Chronarch!
CrankFate reply :
On 1/14/2019 at 2:03 AM, BaitFinesse said:Grease actually smoothens out and quiets rough and noisy gear sets. There has been a lot of discussion on what is the best grease to use to get rid of the Metanium Buzz even if temporary.
There tons of discussion of the issue and how to remidy it put there. Worth while reads:
http://www.tackletour.net/viewtopic.php?t=76305
https://www.tackletour.net/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=75776
http://www.tackletour.net/viewtopic.php?t=74837
https://www.tackletour.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=77338
I have a love hate relationship with grease. I try not to use it, where possible, in low profile baitcasters. I do a tiny dot of ReelX on the main gear.
On 1/14/2019 at 5:43 AM, freelancer27 said:Had the Metanium MGL and still have the Chronarch.
For the money, I would definetely go with the Chronarch. Overall I actually think it is the better reel. It is more robust (Brass gears), it is more compact for palmability and the coating is much more robust (once the silver coating of the Metanium has scratches it looks really bad).
After roughly 5 months my Metanium also started to feel grindy, the Chronarch did not.
If they were the same price, I would still go with the Chronarch!
I was looking at this reel, but decided on the Aldebaran, because in that price range, it better be light! Now I’m stuck with the problem of needing a light rod for small baits to put it on.
Patrickcatalano reply :
On 1/14/2019 at 5:43 AM, freelancer27 said:Had the Metanium MGL and still have the Chronarch.
For the money, I would definetely go with the Chronarch. Overall I actually think it is the better reel. It is more robust (Brass gears), it is more compact for palmability and the coating is much more robust (once the silver coating of the Metanium has scratches it looks really bad).
After roughly 5 months my Metanium also started to feel grindy, the Chronarch did not.
If they were the same price, I would still go with the Chronarch!
By the way, I ordered the Metanium yesterday. I would think that with this being a $400 reel that it shouldn’t have these problems.
I just had it sent back and got a refund
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