Frustrated With Fluorocarbon... 2024

Megastink reply :

I need some input on fluoro line. I have tried a few brands, and have been plagued with poor performance. I will never again buy Vicious (green label) or Vanish or Trilene. I have lost more fish in competition on those lines with various techniques than I care to admit.

I am wondering what you all use for fluoro. I do like Seaguar line. The precision wind spool is a wonderful thing. I have heard good things about Gamma, but haven't tried it.

What brands do you use/won't use ever again and WHY?

BradGuenette reply :

Go with tatsu or another high quality fluoro, sunline ect. I also used to hate FC until I spooled up with a quality one and used some KVD line conditioner. One spool will last me a full season used with backing, and that's fishing 2-3 times a week.

MarkH024 reply :

I've used Vicious with no problems on my end and for the price I'd use it more. I also have used Vanish which I hated because it broke very easily and line management was pretty bad. Using Seaguar Red Label on one set up right now which has been pretty good so far, no real complaints yet. I am more of a braid guy anyway so the percentages of me throwing fluoro are a lot lower.

Where are you breaking off at? Knots, mid line?

BrianinMD reply :

I was in the same boat until I tried Invisx/Abrasx, treated with KVD L&L I have had zero issues. The biggest advantage I have seen is the slack line bite detection.

Jrob78 reply :

I hated fluoro too, until I tried some of the better brands. Sunline Super Sniper is a great line and so is Tatsu. Seaguar InvizX is also very manageable, it handles beautifully but has a lot of stretch. Tatsu is the best of the bunch but is also the most expensive. Use a backer, KVD L&L and don't get a larger diameter line than you really need. One of the better lines will be cheaper in the end because you will keep it on longer.

webertime reply :

Sunline Sniper in 16lb. ALWAYS use a ton of spit and the San Diego Jam knot. I think/find knots with lots of wraps or long pieces being pulled against others generate more heat and weaken the line.

I'll never use Vanish or Flurocast again.

L&L helps too, spray it on as you spool up the reel.

Felix77 reply :

I swear by Seaguar InvizX. Switching all my baitcasters to that this year with one exception. My "big stick" will get the Abrazx 20lb test.

Koofy Smacker reply :

I have seaguar invizx on all my rods now with the exception of a topwater rod and a punching rod. I have 6,8,12,15 lb tests all rigged up and honestly, if it wasnt for the box I would think it was mono with how it manages

ww2farmer reply :

Best bang for the buck IMHO is Seaguar Red Label. IDK how it is as main line, as I don't use it for that, just for leaders. I tried AbrazX, and InvizX, and didn't feel they were any better than Red Label, at least for my purposes. Before I switched to Red Label, I used Vanish and Trilene 100%. Vanish was OK in the smaller lb tests on spinning rod where you didn't need to put it to them to set the hook, but In any of the higher lb tests it broke on me way too often, and way too easy. Trilene 100% was the line that soured me on ever using fluoro as a mainline every again, it was good strong line, but it , for me, was just plain difficult to work with.

Diggy reply :

On 4/1/2013 at 10:10 PM, ww2farmer said:
Best bang for the buck IMHO is Seaguar Red Label. IDK how it is as main line, as I don't use it for that, just for leaders. I tried AbrazX, and InvizX, and didn't feel they were any better than Red Label, at least for my purposes. Before I switched to Red Label, I used Vanish and Trilene 100%. Vanish was OK in the smaller lb tests on spinning rod where you didn't need to put it to them to set the hook, but In any of the higher lb tests it broke on me way too often, and way too easy. Trilene 100% was the line that soured me on ever using fluoro as a mainline every again, it was good strong line, but it , for me, was just plain difficult to work with.

I used it as main line, terrible experience with breakage on the spool, but it works awesome as leader material(red label). I ended up using it as that.

Megastink reply :

I'm looking for MAIN LINE. Sounds like Seaguar Invisx is winning.

roadwarrior reply :

There is no finer line than Tatsu, none...

Otherwise, I would recommend InvizX or AbrazX as leaders depending on the application.

Arv reply :

First fluoro I bought was Sunline Sniper and I've not seen any reason to try anything else.

senile1 reply :

Before there was Tatsu, I used mainly Seaguar InvizX and AbrazX. Once Tatsu came out I tried it and, in my opinion, it lives up to all the accolades given to it. I still use InvizX and AbrazX the most. I haven't tried the Seaguar Red Label but I have had nothing but good results from the other three Seaguar fluoros. So, if you choose to go with Seaguar, you have your choice of price points.

backcast88 reply :

I used Seaguar InvixZ for the first half of 2012. Initially I like it b/c it was very managable but found it lacked abrasion resistance and had a lot of stretch. Then I had issues with Seaguar Senshi mono so I am done with Seaguar for a while.

Right now I have BPS XPS fluoro and have not had a single issue. It is a lot better then InvizX in nearly every catagory except InvizX is a little more managable but XPS is not bad. I want to try Sunline Sniper but haven't felt the need to pay the extra cost over XPS since its on sale rather often and its pretty cheap.

senile1 reply :

On 4/2/2013 at 12:53 AM, backcast88 said:
I used Seaguar InvixZ for the first half of 2012. Initially I like it b/c it was very managable but found it lacked abrasion resistance and had a lot of stretch.

Seaguar AbrazX is designed with an emphasis on abrasion resistance. InvizX is designed for manageability.

kickerfish1 reply :

Really like tatsu above any other line all things considered. Invisix and abrisix are really good too at half the cost. I am also impressed with the sunline products... sniper and shooter specifically.

iabass8 reply :

I love tatsu on my bottom contact rods. However on my moving bait rods I use seaguar red label and have no issues with it. great knot strength and handles pretty well with some line conditioner. it's not the most abrasion resistant line though but it's not horrible either. I've used it for a few years now with no issues. I hated trilene 100% and vanish is named that for a reason...

BradGuenette reply :

I've found that Tatsu is the best of both worlds when it comes to invisx and abrasix. It's soft and supple yet very abrasion resistant. There is no better line on the market.

Raul reply :

On 4/1/2013 at 8:17 PM, Megastink said:

I need some input on fluoro line. I have tried a few brands, and have been plagued with poor performance. I will never again buy Vicious (green label) or Vanish or Trilene. I have lost more fish in competition on those lines with various techniques than I care to admit.

I am wondering what you all use for fluoro. I do like Seaguar line. The precision wind spool is a wonderful thing. I have heard good things about Gamma, but haven't tried it.

What brands do you use/won't use ever again and WHY?

Cheap and fluorocarbon can´t be in the same sentence. Good quality FC is always "expensive". Seaguar manufactures excelent FC.

11justin22 reply :

i use sunline shooter now. love it. i also use some invisx because its soft and supple. its not quit as abrasion resitant though.

BassThumb reply :

Invisx is a great line for spinning reels in the 6-8 lb test range, but it stretches like a rubber band, especially in the higher tests. I would never again used it for fishing jigs/worms on a baitcasting setup with higher tests, though it make a pretty good crankbaiting line if the cover is not too abrasive. I opt for Trilene 100% in 15-17 lb test on bottom-contact rods. I have had tremendous results from Trilene 100% over the years, despite not being the most manageable line on the market. It has low stretch, great abrasion resistance and sensitivity, and excellent knot strength.

I have a spool of 8# Tatsu that I'm excited to try out this season.

RyneB reply :

I use Seaguar Red Label and have no complaints. I tried Vanish and ended up throwing it away. I am going to get a spool of Tatsu next week, hopefully it will live up to the hype.

shootermcbob reply :

I use and like the Cabelas store brand flourocarbon. I can get 600 yards of 10 lb for 27 bucks....6 or 8 lb is 25 bucks for 600 yards. I do believe the cabelas brand is manufactured for them by Seagar. Might be a less expensive alternative for some folks.

FYI, 12 lb and heavier has a price jump to 37 bucks for 600 yards.

kickerfish1 reply :

Could you elaborate more on what consisted of the frustration. Was it line management? Sensitivity? Abrasian resistance? Something else? While floro lines are similar there are certain floro lines that tend to be better at the areas mentioned above.

Also is there a max amount that you would spend or are you open to all floro offerings?

WhiteMike1018 reply :

Vandam uses BPS flurocarbon line....need anyone say more?

WRB reply :

Anyone who has fished with FC line will have major knot issues and lose bass directly due to line failures.

If this wasn't a problem, then there wouldn't be so many knot suggestions and forum threads dedicated to FC line issues.

It's a love hate line; when it's good it's really good and when it's bad it's horrible!

Sunline is the premier FC line, however I believe Blackwater is another exceptional FC line. I have been using Solaroam Bass Hi-Class FC, about $13 for 87 yard spools, like Sunline Shooter it's not inexpensive.

Tom

kickerfish1 reply :

I don't think people that use floro are prone to knot problems. I have fished several sunline (sniper and shooter) and seagar (invisix, abrisix, tatsu) products and have yet to have a knot issue. I am also picky about my knots so if it isn't perfect I will re-tie it until I am satisfied with it.

Any line can fail at anytime for just about any reason ... braid, mono, and co-poly included. The reason for the number of knots is to allow anglers the ability to perfect a few or one that they really like. Some knots work better for some lines and other knots work with most any lines. Simply find one or two and perfect it.

Also sunline isn't the only superior floro line out there. Seagar is just as good. Tatsu would compete with or outperform most any sunline fishing line. The downside of seagar is they have less line choices and colors than sunline. Also tatsu is about as pricey as it gets though comparing price and yards of line shooter is right there.

I have straightened gamagatsu 4/0 hooks in wood with 12# invisix. Basicsally the hook gave way before the line or knot did. I have 100% confidence in both seagar and sunline products.

rockchalk06 reply :

On 4/1/2013 at 8:17 PM, Megastink said:

I need some input on fluoro line. I have tried a few brands, and have been plagued with poor performance. I will never again buy Vicious (green label) or Vanish or Trilene. I have lost more fish in competition on those lines with various techniques than I care to admit.

I am wondering what you all use for fluoro. I do like Seaguar line. The precision wind spool is a wonderful thing. I have heard good things about Gamma, but haven't tried it.

What brands do you use/won't use ever again and WHY?

Where is your line breaking at? If your curious take a black marker and mark some lines on the line starting at the knot and up about 6-8 inches. If you break off, see if you still have marks on the line. If so, there is a good chance it's at the knot.

What knot are you using? Only knot I've had success with is the jimmy Houston/ Shaw Grigsby knot. I've never broken it.

Also you gotta check the line 6-7 foot up from the lure frequently for nicks.

Fluoro is like a high maintenance women. One of the reason, I use braid for everything and fluoro for one rig only. Treated and checked about every 10-12 casts, it works great for me.

I'm no expert, and have only been using it for a short time, but the above has made it work for me

TNBassin' reply :

I hate fluorocarbon line too, but I've never really tried the expensive stuff. I wanna give the BPS XPS fluoro a shot after I run out of Yo Zuri Hybrid though, as I know RockChalk has said it's pretty decent. I've also heard great things about Seagur Red Label as well, treated with KVD LnL.

BrianinMD reply :

I have never had a knot issue with any of the FC lines I have tried, no luck at all with BPS or 100% Trilene. Went away from FC for about half a season before trying Invisx on a spinning reel. Loved it and switch all but one (topwater) to FC, switched all but two baitcast reels to Abrasx. Other two are braid.

A-Rob reply :

This is not a FC line but...

I was tired of break-offs and tired of the $$ spent on FC

A lot of guys on here talked about yo-zuri hybrid. I've been using that since with fewer break-offs (none actually).

I'm a recreational angler with a few club tourneys now and then so this works fine for me.

I use it on my worm rod 12# test.

I'm just gonna throw that option in the mix.

Chris at Tech reply :

8lb Invisx on my 2500-sized spinning reels. 12, 15 and 17 lb Trilene 100% Fluoro on multiple baitcasters.

Take your time to spool it well, and use L&L conditioner. Would also recommend using cheap mono line as backing so you get 2-3 reel's worth of the fluoro when you spool up. There's certainly some sticker shock with fluoro, even moreso when you're not accustomed to how to manage the line so at least the backing helps reduce some cost.

Brian Needham reply :

the BPS XPS is pretty good stuff and economical too. Hell the best fisherman in the world gets paid to tell you its good!! LOL, I have used it and it is pretty good line all jokes aside.

that being said, not much if anything beats tatsu.

CKFishin reply :

Invisix or Trilene 100%

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