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Wizzlebiz reply :
Hey all. Im back with some questions that many will find rudimentary, puzzling or downright silly but I need to know your thoughs.
Question 1
Do you believe bass are line shy
Question 2
Snap swivels for quick change of lures?
Personally I havent out of fear of losing a fish. But I want to know your thoughts.
Question 3
I am just curious if anyone has tried chumming the water to draw bass to you then slipping a lure into the mix to catch them.....
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Question 4
What exactly do you do with a trophy bass? Say I caught a 20lbs behemoth. Is there someone I would call to confirm the weight? The measurements? Just put it back? Have it mounted?
I have gone back and fourth on how stupid I am willing to look to have these questions answered.... Apparently im willing to go down for the answer.
Thanks guys and remember be kind to your fellow fisherman. Some day they might have to save you from drowning.
EGbassing reply :
1. Not really, but it's hard to say for sure.
2. I actually think they probably spook fish more than any line but again, it's hard to say for sure, you could always experiment with it and find out better.
3. I think it's illegal in some places..? Am I right about that? If not, it could work.
Good luck!
Hammer 4 reply :
1...Maybe, depends on a couple of things imho..If they are aggressively feeding, no.
2...Always tie direct to the lure unless the maker includes a swivel, ect.
3...Never, not even when fishing saltwater.
Big Rick reply :
Search is your friend....
There are a ton of threads on bass being line shy, lure snaps and swivels, and even chumming. Probably more info than you could process in one setting. That said, I have mixed feelings on the line shyness of bass. I use Mustad Fastach Clips with great success. Even caught my new PB using it. 8lb 3 oz this spring. It's also available with a swivel. Pic attached. I know NOTHING about chumming.....
Scott F reply :
1. No
2. Snaps, yes. Swivel, no.
3. No. Chumming will bring panfish in though.
BassWhole! reply :
1. No.
2. snaps yes, snap swivels no for bass.
3. Yes.
Wizzlebiz reply :
On 8/30/2019 at 4:35 AM, Big Rick said:Search is your friend....
There are a ton of threads on bass being line shy, lure snaps and swivels, and even chumming. Probably more info than you could process in one setting. That said, I have mixed feelings on the line shyness of bass. I use Mustad Fastach Clips with great success. Even caught my new PB using it. 8lb 3 oz this spring. It's also available with a swivel. Pic attached. I know NOTHING about chumming.....
I understand there are old threads about such things however this is a forum as well as a library. Updated info is always good stuff imho.
Thank you for your feed back on the snap. Il take a closer look at those particular ones.
Timberwolf530 reply :
1. The answer to this is yes and no. Some are, some are not. I'm erring on the side of caution and using the least visible line I can. To me it's not a hassle to tie a leader.
2. Snaps only on crankbaits with split rings removed. Snap swivels, no. Swivels, yes on some things like flukes or floating worms.
3. No.
On 8/30/2019 at 4:45 AM, Timberwolf530 said:
Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :
1 not sure
2 yes on snap, use it quite often even on weightless plastic
3 chumming, with what? A handful of worm or dozens of guppies? Never heard of chumming for bass.
Wizzlebiz reply :
On 8/30/2019 at 4:50 AM, Bass_Fishing_Socal said:1 not sure
2 yes on snap, use it quite often even on weightless plastic
3 chumming, with what? A handful of worm or dozens of guppies? Never heard of chumming for bass.
Great question. I would assume a handful of worms or frozen anchovies in a nylon. I didnt really consider how to go about it much. More of a has anyone tried type of thing.
Pickle_Power reply :
1. My belief is no. Do they see the line? Maybe. Does it hinder them from biting? I don't think so, most of the time, in most of the waters we fish for them.
2. I almost always use fast lock snaps or the Fastach clips for crankbaits, and some topwaters with trebles. I catch plenty of fish while using them, and that's enough to allow me to keep on with it.
3. I believe chumming is illegal in Iowa, so I've never attempted. When I was a kid, our local lake had a tagged carp contest every year, and I remember tossing lots of sweet corn out as chum before I knew better than to follow regs.
Hammer 4 reply :
Update, just checked if chumming is legal in Calif..It is not permissible unless otherwise posted. This applies to freshwater.
Wizzlebiz reply :
On 8/30/2019 at 5:11 AM, Hammer 4 said:Update, just checked if chumming is legal in Calif..It is not permissible unless otherwise posted. This applies to freshwater.
Good to know. Thank you
Daniel Abram reply :
To the first ? I was using stright braid not much luck at all. So i started tieing on leaders bite ibproved and caught much more fish. I cant say for sure if made a diff but i fish same places same bait with much better results
JediAmoeba reply :
1. Yes. But it depends on the lure and presentation as well as the fishery. Bass that are accustomed to seeing lures and lines all the time it's best to do what you can to hide said line, especially on finesse presentations.
2. Yes and no. On moving baits, usually. On jerkbaits and soft plastics, no because it messes with the action.
3. Are we catfishing?
WRB reply :
Swivel clips have thier place in fishing but not a common component used in bass fishing. Clips or snaps without a swivel are more common and used for easy changing of lures and enhancing some lures action. Swivels are also used separately to help reduce line twist for some lures that spin like adding a swivel to a split ring for some spoons and common component used with a Carolina rig.
I preferred Berkley cross lock snaps for decades and now like Owners hyper weld snaps, they are strong and light weight. I use snaps or clips on deep diving crankbaits, aviod tieing direct to split rings.
Are bass line shy; no. Line can impact a lures action or live bait negatively.
Chumming is a common practice for salt water fish, illegal in California for most fresh water fishing.
The current world record 22.35 lb LMB caught in Japan was chummed using live bluegill, it's legal in Japan and illegal to release a bass alive there.
Tom
Wizzlebiz reply :
On 8/30/2019 at 6:04 AM, WRB said:Swivel clips have thier place in fishing but not a common component used in bass fishing. Clips or snaps without a swivel are more common and used for easy changing of lures and enhancing some lures action. Swivels are also used separately to help reduce line twist for some lures that spin like adding a swivel to a split ring for some spoons and common component used with a Carolina rig.
I preferred Berkley cross lock snaps for decades and now like Owners hyper weld snaps, they are strong and light weight. I use snaps or clips on deep diving crankbaits, aviod tieing direct to split rings.
Are bass line shy; no. Line can impact a lures action or live bait negatively.
Chumming is a common practice for salt water fish, illegal in California for most fresh water fishing.
The current world record 22.35 lb LMB caught in Japan was chummed using live bluegill, it's legal in Japan and illegal to release a bass alive there.
Tom
Some solid trivia points here. I assume they feel it an invasive species in japan I take it?
Hammer 4 reply :
On 8/30/2019 at 6:20 AM, Wizzlebiz said:Some solid trivia points here. I assume they feel it an invasive species in japan I take it?
Yes.
813basstard reply :
I hope I get to see someone chum with crankbaits, spinnerbaits, or a jitterbug. I’d go have lunch with that man.
He he has it figured out.
N Florida Mike reply :
I don’t think these questions are silly at all. Especially compared to some that people post????.
1. I think bass are somewhat line shy, especially the clearer the water. The murkier it gets the less it matters
2. I don’t use snap swivels.
3. I keep fish chummed at my dock. When I had more time I did it at various spots all over the lake. I mostly use stale bread. It gets the bream concentrated , then the bass come for the bream. It doesn’t work as good just to go to a random spot and chum that way , and expect fish to immediately show up.Sometimes it takes days and even a couple weeks to get a good concentration of fish. But it does draw in bass that can be caught in a variety of ways, including using live bream !
4. Just get the local fish and game dept. number and a back up number for them. But they may not answer on the weekend or after hours, so it’s good to know a local warden you can call just in case.
billmac reply :
I've always thought it was unlikely that bass would spook at line but big honking hooks don't bother them.
In direct contrast to what I just said above, I've never liked to tie on more hardware than necessary, just in case it spooked them. I've been known to cut the swivels off and just use a straight snap.
Chumming. It probably isn't a good idea, even if you can do it legally. Nothing wrong with using live bait, but just put a hook on it.
JediAmoeba reply :
After reading a few comments I realized I said yes to snap swivels. I use snaps, but not swivels. The only time I use swivels is on some worm rigs and a donkey rig. Otherwise, I just use quick change snaps.
scaleface reply :
I think bass can become line shy .
MassYak85 reply :
1. I believe they can be at times. I've fished before where seemingly the only difference in bites was the line, plus I fish some pretty clear water and it just gives me more confidence.
2. Snaps, yes...swivels...yes....never snap swivels though. I've had them straighten out on fish or just straight break. Practice tying knots and any speed you might save is negligible and in the end not worth the added weakness of the snap swivel. It's also awful for baits like spinnerbaits where they can slide up the wire arm and foul a cast.
3. If I was going to chum I'd just go straight to using live bait but that's just me. I don't see a reason it wouldn't work though.
4. Check with your local tackle shops, most should have certified scales they will be able to verify fish with. The issue is transporting the fish. If you intend to skin mount it, doesn't matter, if you intend to release it just realize the likelihood of the fish dying while trying to get it somewhere to be verified is pretty high. But I believe like others said, in your area there are probably game wardens that can come and verify a catch at the lake.
islandbass reply :
On 8/30/2019 at 4:18 AM, Wizzlebiz said:Hey all. Im back with some questions that many will find rudimentary, puzzling or downright silly but I need to know your thoughs.
Question 1
Do you believe bass are line shy — They can be but also not.
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Question 2
Snap swivels for quick change of lures?
Mostly no. They are not as sturdy as I’d like. They can and have come apart on me. Use a duo lock snap if you have to.
The only exception I make is if I’m using inline spinners or spoons for small stocked trout. If I lose them, no big deal.
Question 3
I am just curious if anyone has tried chumming the water to draw bass to you then slipping a lure into the mix to catch them.....
No. Seems like a lot of waste of time that I could be fishing and I don’t want to carry anything that could be really smelly to spill on me or in my car. Even more as to no for me is for bass, imho, it is not sporting.
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Question 4
What exactly do you do with a trophy bass? Say I caught a 20lbs behemoth. Is there someone I would call to confirm the weight? The measurements? Just put it back? Have it mounted?
Moot point. I live WA state so it’s not going to happen, lol If I were to truly target bass in a lake known for trophy bass, I would make sure I’d be prepared to keep it alive and make that call. I believe you call your game warden. I’d also let it go but I would take measurements.
TnRiver46 reply :
Some bass are line shy, some aren’t. That’s why you get a lot of yes and no’s on the first question. Fluorocarbon sells pretty well....... I always tie my line directly to the lure unless it’s a heavy little Cleo or blade bait in which case I use a split ring . I guess I don’t need to attempt to answer the chum question since you are in Cali. What to do whenever you catch a 20 lb bass? Whatever the heck you want! Personally I would party like it’s 1999
Koz reply :
1. Line shy? I don't think so. Bass are predators that react on instinct. See the bait, eat the bait.
2. I use snaps all of the time. With bank fishing or kayak fishing I bring only 1 or 2 rods and it makes it easier to quickly change baits. If I had a boat and 5-10 rods with me I'd be more apt to direct tie.
3. Chumming is illegal for most species in most states.
4. If you think you have a record you need to get the fish weighed on a certified scale, like in a supermarket. You would also need to contact DNR for other requirements. That may be a phone call or looking on their website.
JediAmoeba reply :
To me a 10 pound bass would be a world record... 5 pounders are so rare I can't imagine a double digit bass
A-Jay reply :
On 8/30/2019 at 11:32 AM, JediAmoeba said:To me a 10 pound bass would be a world record... 5 pounders are so rare I can't imagine a double digit bass
Just got to go where they live . . .
A-Jay
N Florida Mike reply :
Seeing some negativity on question #3. I wouldn’t advise you to break the law but wondering why that would be against the law?
Its legal in Florida, as long as you obey other laws , such as not keeping sportfish caught in a cast net, or snagging them, etc. I’m talking freshwater here. We can use live bream for bait also as long as they are caught with hook and line.
Chum the bream and the bass will come. Can’t see how that hurts anything.
MN Fisher reply :
On 8/30/2019 at 6:58 PM, N Florida Mike said:Seeing some negativity on question #3. I wouldn’t advise you to break the law but wondering why that would be against the law?
It's illegal in MN to chum, use baitcloud or use any part of a fish or a whole fish not labeled as 'minnow'.
Different states have different regs.
Wizzlebiz reply :
On 8/30/2019 at 6:58 PM, N Florida Mike said:Seeing some negativity on question #3. I wouldn’t advise you to break the law but wondering why that would be against the law?
Its legal in Florida, as long as you obey other laws , such as not keeping sportfish caught in a cast net, or snagging them, etc. I’m talking freshwater here. We can use live bream for bait also as long as they are caught with hook and line.
Chum the bream and the bass will come. Can’t see how that hurts anything.
I think I used a bad word for #3 lol. All I was thinking was a couple of worms thrown in the water to bring them in. I think people think I want to massacre something. Thats not the case. Lol
king fisher reply :
I use chum in Salt water all of the time, but never even considered it for bass. Nothing against the practice if legal, just never tried. I did see a U Tube video where some kids chummed the water with two big nets full of crayfish. Probably 30 gallons of live crayfish. Then they started throwing red rattle traps. The bass went crazy, they caught fish every cast. I have no idea how long it took them to catch that many crayfish, or if the video was even reel. It was on U Tube so it couldn't have been a fake lol.
drew4779 reply :
There's a product available called bait cloud (I think?). I've never tried it and have no idea if it actually works. Its a ball you toss into the water and it dissolves into a scent cloud...essentially a type of chumming.
Wizzlebiz reply :
On 8/30/2019 at 11:30 PM, drew4779 said:There's a product available called bait cloud (I think?). I've never tried it and have no idea if it actually works. Its a ball you toss into the water and it dissolves into a scent cloud...essentially a type of chumming.
So basically a stinkbait ball is what i am imagining
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