31 or 35 IPT for frog fishing 2024
biggiesmalls reply :
If you were purchasing a frog reel, would you go for a 31 or a 35 IPT reel and why?
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optimator reply :
33.87 
EDIT: I was joking, but after looking mine is actually 33.9 
biggiesmalls reply :
On 4/11/2018 at 3:09 AM, optimator said:33.87
I got that it's not going to be a huge deal, lol. Just wondering what people like to go with, I have to decide between the two. Same price and everything.
optimator reply :
I just went with a fast reel. Mine is a Daiwa Fuego CT 8.1. I got it on a 20% off day on the bay for a little over $50. It's not frogging temps here yet, but I've used it with mono on my worm rod. It's a great reel for the price.
RichF reply :
I'm a big fan of fast for frog fishing.
J Francho reply :
Doesn't matter to me. I use a 6.3:1 reel that's around 28"/turn without any issue. You move the bait and the fish with the rod. I suppose it's some advantage if you want to get the bait in fast, and cast to a spot. But what do you say to the people that say not to give up too early on the retrieve?
ratherbfishin1 reply :
You must have the fastest possible reel for frog fishing... why? because the manufacturers said so
But I actually really do like a faster gear ratio, I use 8.3:1 but it doesn't have to be that fast.
long island basser reply :
They all work well, four inches isn’t gonna make a difference.
J Francho reply :
On 4/11/2018 at 3:00 AM, biggiesmalls said:why?
I don't think we ever get the why part out. Seriously, I've fished with a faster reel, and I'm not sure why it's better, but EVERYONE says so. Why?
biggiesmalls reply :
On 4/11/2018 at 3:36 AM, J Francho said:I don't think we ever get the why part out. Seriously, I've fished with a faster reel, and I'm not sure why it's better, but EVERYONE says so. Why?
I've always set the hook with frogs by lowering my rod tip, reeling in the slack, and giving it to him with the hookset. So, the quicker I can get line back on the reel, the better - because that means I can get a quicker hookset.
I can see the case for lower gears too. You get more power out of lower gear ratio (think of a Jeep, you'd want a lower gear ratio for towing someone out of sand/mud since it'll give you more torque). If using the reel to fight a heavy fish and fishing heavy slop, I could see the use for a lower gear ratio. Personally, I fight fish with the rod more than the reel - my reel just holds/retrieves line and provides a drag force.
That's my reasoning at least for a higher gear ratio, I'm sure there are others. Im just trying to decide which Lew's to buy 
Tywithay reply :
If you're casting them a great distance, the IPT for a 1/2 full spool is a lot lower. That's why a faster ratio is more effective.
J Francho reply :
How much slack is in your line that 4" more per turn actually makes a difference? I'm not saying it's a disadvantage, or that a slower ratio is an advantage, I'm just not buying into faster is better. Remember, I'm an age that remembers throwing frogs on mono with a "high speed" 5:1 reel. I've used everything but a low speed cranking reel for frogs. The different IPT makes no difference. The point of my argument for this is that the OP *may* want to use the reel for something else. If it's moving baits, then the slower gear ratio. If it's jigs, then faster. There's more compelling reasons to pick one over another than frogs. You move, set the hook, and pull the fish out of cover with the rod, not the reel.
Catt reply :
On 4/11/2018 at 8:36 PM, J Francho said:How much slack is in your line that 4" more per turn actually makes a difference? I'm not saying it's a disadvantage, or that a slower ratio is an advantage, I'm just not buying into faster is better. Remember, I'm an age that remembers throwing frogs on mono with a "high speed" 5:1 reel. I've used everything but a low speed cranking reel for frogs. The different IPT makes no difference. The point of my argument for this is that the OP *may* want to use the reel for something else. If it's moving baits, then the slower gear ratio. If it's jigs, then faster. There's more compelling reasons to pick one over another than frogs. You move, set the hook, and pull the fish out of cover with the rod, not the reel.
My reels for every technique; Calcutta/Cardiff 100A gear ratio: 5.8:1 IPT: 23"
On every cast, flip, pitch, or punch I'm aware of the amount of slack in my line all the way back to the boat.
It aint more than a turn or two!
With two turns that's nearly 4', why y'all got more than 4' of slack in your line at any time!
optimator reply :
On 4/11/2018 at 9:22 PM, Catt said:
My reels for every technique; Calcutta/Cardiff 100A gear ratio: 5.8:1 IPT: 23"
On every cast, flip, pitch, or punch I'm aware of the amount of slack in my line all the way back to the boat.
It aint more than a turn or two!
With two turns that's nearly 4', why y'all got more than 4' of slack in your line at any time!
I'm just lazy!
biggiesmalls reply :
On 4/11/2018 at 8:36 PM, J Francho said:The point of my argument for this is that the OP *may* want to use the reel for something else. If it's moving baits, then the slower gear ratio. If it's jigs, then faster. There's more compelling reasons to pick one over another than frogs. You move, set the hook, and pull the fish out of cover with the rod, not the reel.
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This is only going to be used for frogs. Probably just going to go with a 7.5:1, should be plenty fast.
Thanks everyone 
the reel ess reply :
IMO (which is the correct one LOL) The faster, the better as far as getting bass out of the slop. You want to be able to turn the bass and get it to the top as quickly as possible using the rod, then skate it across the surface using the reel and the rod angle. But bigger bass will usually dig down anyway.
As for walking the fog in open water, a little slower reel might work better. But I use a 7.5:1, which says it's 31 IPT. It gets the job done. I never looked at the IPT before right now. Before I bought a dedicated frog combo, I used a much slower 5.1:1, just because it was the strongest reel I owned. The increase in speed was good.
I now have 4 reels that are at least 7.1:1 because I'm getting older and don't see any reason to crank more revolutions than necessary. It seems anymore, 7:1 is almost the average.
MassYak85 reply :
Casting is more important to me so the quality of the reel and the quality of the drag would be my buying points, and then whichever reel I decided on I would get the fastest ratio. Both of those IPT will be good, and IMO there is no reason not to go with the faster of the two as almost all frog fishing is done with the rod. I just like being able to burn the frog back to me if I see a blowup and need to make a quick cast.
CTBassin860 reply :
Ive fished frogs on a 7.3:1 and ive fished them on a 22 IPT 5.4:1. I could catch them on a 6.X or a 9.X too. Its all preference. I prefer the 7.3. Faster reel=faster retrieve=more casts=more fish catching opportunity.
J Francho reply :
I'm seeing weird advice. A bass blew up on your frog, so you want to take it away from the fish quickly, and cast again? Just leave the frog there! Why would you take the bait away? Leave it there, and that bass usually strikes again.
Faster = more casts? I don't get it. The fish tell you whether to fish fast or slow, not the reel. Are you casting out a mile, twitching the frog three times, and reeling that mile back in, and casting again? One of my biggest bass came on a frog, in open water between me and pads. They're called "lures" for a reason: sometimes you lure them out of cover.
I'm intentionally being a contrarian, devil's advocate, but really, think about these things. One the most common threads on here is problems with frogs. I think I see why.
RichF reply :
On 4/16/2018 at 9:23 PM, J Francho said:A bass blew up on your frog, so you want to take it away from the fish quickly, and cast again?
I don't think this is quite what was meant. I think he meant, if he sees a fish blow up somewhere and his frog is already in the water somewhere else, he likes a fast retrieve reel to burn it in and cast where the blowup occurred.
I prefer the fastest reel possible for frogs, yet I fish a frog extremely slow mostly. A lot of the time, I'm pretty target oriented with my frog. I'll hit an isolated grass clump, pad patch, shade pocket etc. The target is usually small so I only wanna work my frog in that small spot, crank it in as fast as possible if I feel nothing is there, and cast to the next target. The fast reel is more for efficiency in covering water, not necessarily for the actual act of fishing a frog.
J Francho reply :
I've watched a bass follow a frog too many times to think in terms of a small target. My favorite is the wake inthe slop coming right at your frog. But I digress, keep taking your baits away from the fish. 
OnthePotomac reply :
Anything faster than hand over hand works LOL
RichF reply :
On 4/16/2018 at 10:36 PM, J Francho said:I've watched a bass follow a frog too many times to think in terms of a small target. My favorite is the wake inthe slop coming right at your frog. But I digress, keep taking your baits away from the fish.
I'm not necessarily talking about fishing slop. That's a whole different deal. I'll fish the frog all the way to the boat in that case. When I'm hitting targets, they're usually isolated. Sure there's a chance a bass could come from open water somewhere and hit the bait away from the target, but I'm thinking in terms of high percentage when I fish a frog this way. And again, I don't think @MassYak85 was saying he'd burn the bait in and cast again if a fish blew up on his bait, but rather have the ability to do so if a fish blows up somewhere else.
J Francho reply :
The old chasing blow ups game. I hate getting sucked into that false advertising, lol. Except when it works, and you do get bit, and feel like a genius.
RichF reply :
On 4/17/2018 at 2:29 AM, J Francho said:The old chasing blow ups game. I hate getting sucked into that false advertising, lol. Except when it works, and you do get bit, and feel like a genius.
If I see a blow up, I just assume is something other than a bass...unless I'm on Oneida. hahaha
MassYak85 reply :
On 4/17/2018 at 2:27 AM, RichF said:I'm not necessarily talking about fishing slop. That's a whole different deal. I'll fish the frog all the way to the boat in that case. When I'm hitting targets, they're usually isolated. Sure there's a chance a bass could come from open water somewhere and hit the bait away from the target, but I'm thinking in terms of high percentage when I fish a frog this way. And again, I don't think @MassYak85 was saying he'd burn the bait in and cast again if a fish blew up on his bait, but rather have the ability to do so if a fish blows up somewhere else.
Yup, I meant when I see fish elsewhere and need to make a quick cast. Some days chasing blowups is a fools game like @J Francho said, but other days it's very effective. One nice thing about being in a kayak is I can get waaaaaaay back into the pads. Some ponds have vast lily pad fields in the summer up in MA that can cover more than 75% of the water's surface. When that's the case it's like jig fishing a lake that's littered with standing timber, it's hard to know where to start. But sometimes what I do if it's a really shallow pond or area is just start paddling, the fish we're all really after can't make quick movements in that thick stuff without bumping into all kinds of stuff, so when you come barreling in and they need to move...you get to know about it. Move around enough and you start getting a sense of where fish are and aren't, then you can let the area cool down and bomb the frog back through there and at least have the confidence knowing that fish are in that area.
On 4/16/2018 at 10:36 PM, J Francho said:I've watched a bass follow a frog too many times to think in terms of a small target. My favorite is the wake inthe slop coming right at your frog. But I digress, keep taking your baits away from the fish.
Man those wakes....not for the faint of heart but by far one of my favorite part of bass fishing.
BassWhole! reply :
On 4/11/2018 at 7:26 AM, Tywithay said:If you're casting them a great distance, the IPT for a 1/2 full spool is a lot lower. That's why a faster ratio is more effective.
Which is why I like a reel with a larger and or wider spool.
tbone1993 reply :
I prefer the highest speed I have available. Yes you do not want to pull the bait away from the fish. When you get a blow up stop and change your game up. Fish that cast back to the boat. But when that casts over I want to rip the bait back in and get back into the game. I also prefer the highest speed because I don't always have 15 rods with me. I'll use the same reel to flip and frog when I'm bank fishing.
sully420 reply :
To each his own, reel speed is way overrated Imo but if you like fast reels great if you like slower reals great. I do feel like some of the advice on here fails to take in account what other people actually need. Honestly you could fish every technique with a 6:4.1 reel. I don't want people to feel like they have to have this fast reel or this rod or that lure to have fun and catch fish. Everywhere you look in this sport someone is trying to sell us the next big thing, from the oil in the boat motor to the rod in your hand. I hope on bass resource we can stay away from that and encourage people to have fun and dont worry so much. Lets stop trying to sell product to each other and get back to learning how to become better anglers. It dosent matter how fast the reel or the power of the rod if you can't break down a pad field or pattern a bite. Way too much whats the best lure, rod, reel,line talk and not enough in-depth discussion about patterning fish by day weather ect.
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