Opinions On G Loomis Nrx 893C And Imx Mbr 844C 2024
skeletor6 reply :
What is the general opinion on each of these rods and what their strengths and weaknesses are? Is the IMX a nice rod and what should I use it for. Also, with the NRX what should it be used for?
Does anybody own these and can comment on their balance, sensitivity, feel crispness and overall impression of each of the rods I listed? I am trying to decide if I should keep them or not and I have no clue about the IMX and how good of a rod it is.
Thanks everyone, your replies will go a long way to seeing how they will fit in with my Powell Max 683c and St. Croix LTBC70MHXF/11.
Quitlimpin reply :
Can't say anything about the nrx, but the 844c is a classic. If I could only carry one rod, the 844c is it. IMHO, it is THE heavy t-rig/jig rod, and is also an excellent frog stick. For me, the sweet spot is in the 3/8 to 3/4 range. Looks like both rods will complement your others very well.
skeletor6 reply :
Thank you for your comments from personal experience! How is the IMX as far as sensitivity and how does it compare with other rods at its price point? Also, how does it balance and is it a bette rod than my LTBC70MHXF?
I bought both of these rods together as a pair and I am wondering if I should keep them or not. I read that the IMX 844c is rated as heavy, but actually plays out more like a MH is this true? If so, which would be a better jig rod, the IMX 844c or the St. Croix LTBC70MHXF?
Furthermore, is the NRX 893c good to use as a jig rod in addition to using it for weightless senkos and such. I am talking about jigs in the 1/4 oz to 3/8 range with a rage tail trailer. What exactly does the NRX 893c do so well at, and what should it be used for?
roadwarrior reply :
The NRX893C is primarily designed for weightless soft plastics. I own the BCR version.
I suspect this will become your favorite rod and you will probably find other techniques
that fit (soft plastic swimbaits).
The MBR 844C is a classic, generally thought of as a jig and weighted soft plastics rod.
I think you will like the st. Croix also. I would keep them all!
skeletor6 reply :
On 9/14/2012 at 9:49 PM, roadwarrior said:The NRX893C is primarily designed for weightless soft plastics. I own the BCR version.
I suspect this will become your favorite rod and you will probably find other techniques
that fit (soft plastic swimbaits).
The MBR 844C is a classic, generally thought of as a jig and weighted soft plastics rod.
I think you will like the st. Croix also. I would keep them all!
Thanks RW! Can the NRX be used for light jigs (1/4 and 3/8) as well as what you mentioned? Does the NRX perform up to its price tag? I have to ask because these are brand new and unused.
Quillback reply :
I have an NRX 893 that so far I have used for dragging 3/8 and 1/2 OZ football jigs (haven't tried 1/4 yet). Works great for that application, casts a jig a mile and is reasonably sensitive. I got mine at a good discount, I'm not sure I'd pay full retail for one, but it's a great rod. My GLX 803 BCR is more sensitive as far as transmitting rocks, wood, mud etc., but funny thing about that 893, though not as sensitive at reading lake bottom, it seems to transmit bites better. I'm sure the 893 will work for t-rigs and light c-rigs, just haven't had a chance to try it yet on those applications.
skeletor6 reply :
On 9/15/2012 at 3:47 AM, Quillback said:I have an NRX 893 that so far I have used for dragging 3/8 and 1/2 OZ football jigs (haven't tried 1/4 yet). Works great for that application, casts a jig a mile and is reasonably sensitive. I got mine at a good discount, I'm not sure I'd pay full retail for one, but it's a great rod. My GLX 803 BCR is more sensitive as far as transmitting rocks, wood, mud etc., but funny thing about that 893, though not as sensitive at reading lake bottom, it seems to transmit bites better. I'm sure the 893 will work for t-rigs and light c-rigs, just haven't had a chance to try it yet on those applications.
Thanks Quill. It sounds like the NRX is fairly versatile then. I also found a good deal and got both of these rods brand new. I have read reviews regarding the NRX and people often comment on its sensitivity being great. Do you find this to be true? Also, what type of line were you using with the NRX and GLX while jigging?
Goose21 reply :
I own an IMX and just recently purchased a NRX. Both are ideal for soft plastic or jig fishing (what I do 98% of the time)
My NRX is in the green 6' 8" medium heavy with the x fast tip. The sensitivity with this rod paired with flourocarbon is unmatched in my experience. As long as it holds up over time it will be WELL worth the investment.
You won't be dissapointed with either.
skeletor6 reply :
On 9/15/2012 at 7:15 AM, Goose21 said:I own an IMX and just recently purchased a NRX. Both are ideal for soft plastic or jig fishing (what I do 98% of the time)
My NRX is in the green 6' 8" medium heavy with the x fast tip. The sensitivity with this rod paired with flourocarbon is unmatched in my experience. As long as it holds up over time it will be WELL worth the investment.
You won't be dissapointed with either.
What are the differences you experienced between the two? And thank you for your comments I am glad you are happy with your NRX.
Bassn Blvd reply :
I've been fishing the NRX 893c 7'5, m/h, ext fast and NRX 854c 7'1, Hvy, Fast for over a year.
I also fished/owned the MBR843 in both IMX/GLX models and the GLX MBR844.
The sensitivity between the GLX and IMX is noticable, but I have very sensitive hands. I preferred the MBR843 over the MBR844 because I think the m/h was a bit more versital over the hvy. If I had to choose between the two and was fishing ONLY T-rig worms and jigs 1/2+ with 14-17 pound mono then I would get the MBR844. If you only had one rod for fishing lighter jigs up to 3/8oz, T-rig worms, fluke style baits, jerkbaits, occasional crank bait and using 10-12 pound mono then I would go with the MBR843.
I sold all my IMX and GLX's and upgraded to the NRX's, except for my crankbait rods.
The NRX's are definately more sensitive, lighter and supposedly stronger than the GLX, but may not be worth the extra money for many anglers.
My suggestion is this. If you can afford it then buy the NRX for all T-rig worms and without a doubt Senkos (especially weightless Senkos) if fishing open water to light cover/grass. The sensitivity you get while using weightless Senkos is unimaginable. I use the NRX 893c exclusively for my Senkos.
I use the NRX 854c for T-rig worms and jigs up 1/2oz. My biggest dislikes about the 854 is that it's only 7'1 and I'd like to have a longer handle. I would NOT use this rod for POWER fishing. By Power fishing I mean flipping heavy pads, weeds and junk with #80 braid and 1/2 - 1.5 oz flipping weights and swinging 5+ pound bass into the boat. Jig fishing around docks is no problem with this rod but not enough for pulling bass through 10' of thick hyacinth(sp).
I look at NRX rods as being used for "heavy finesse" fishing.
I'm losing my train of thought and keep dozing off so I'm signing off for now. Can add to this laster if you'd like. (LMAO, I just did a big head jerk and nearly flipped myself out of the chair)
Quillback reply :
On 9/15/2012 at 3:57 AM, skeletor6 said:Thanks Quill. It sounds like the NRX is fairly versatile then. I also found a good deal and got both of these rods brand new. I have read reviews regarding the NRX and people often comment on its sensitivity being great. Do you find this to be true? Also, what type of line were you using with the NRX and GLX while jigging?
Yep great sensitivity on the 893, not as much as my GLX 803, but pretty darn good. I use floro when jigging. Fishing rocky, sandy, gravelly, muddy bottoms and around docks and timber.
NorcalBassin reply :
I loved my 893c so much that I had to buy a second one in green! Best all around rod that I've ever fished. I generally fish open and light cover water, so I do not really have any use for "heavy" rods. I designated one for 3/8 oz jigs and the other for 1/8-1/4 oz darterheads with grubs or small worms (paired with a 50e Chronarch and it launches this light rig). I like to throw Senkos wacky style, so I use the 852s for that (awesome all around spinning rod). I would definitely keep it.
skeletor6 reply :
On 9/15/2012 at 8:18 PM, Quillback said:Yep great sensitivity on the 893, not as much as my GLX 803, but pretty darn good. I use floro when jigging. Fishing rocky, sandy, gravelly, muddy bottoms and around docks and timber.
Thank you for your response and observations. That is interesting about the GLX, it sounds like a very nice rod!
On 9/16/2012 at 1:17 AM, NorcalBassin said:I loved my 893c so much that I had to buy a second one in green! Best all around rod that I've ever fished. I generally fish open and light cover water, so I do not really have any use for "heavy" rods. I designated one for 3/8 oz jigs and the other for 1/8-1/4 oz darterheads with grubs or small worms (paired with a 50e Chronarch and it launches this light rig). I like to throw Senkos wacky style, so I use the 852s for that (awesome all around spinning rod). I would definitely keep it.
Would it be best to use the NRX with Fluoro, since I will be light jig fishing and light plastics with it and to use the IMX with braid since it will be my frog rod and used for the heaviest of applications? Do I have to worry at all about any issues with using these rods with braid if I choose to? Such as the guides not matching up well.
Furthermore, is there any difference between the newer manufactured models of these rods compared to earlier manufactured versions? That being, these rods are still new in their plastic I would assume a newer manufacture date.
Lastly, what are the common differences between these Loomis rods and other comparable rods in their price ranges, such as St. Croix offerings?
Thank you everyone for your input. It is really helping with my understanding and decision making.
Bassn Blvd reply :
On 9/15/2012 at 3:47 AM, Quillback said:I have an NRX 893 that so far I have used for dragging 3/8 and 1/2 OZ football jigs (haven't tried 1/4 yet). Works great for that application, casts a jig a mile and is reasonably sensitive. I got mine at a good discount, I'm not sure I'd pay full retail for one, but it's a great rod. My GLX 803 BCR is more sensitive as far as transmitting rocks, wood, mud etc., but funny thing about that 893, though not as sensitive at reading lake bottom, it seems to transmit bites better. I'm sure the 893 will work for t-rigs and light c-rigs, just haven't had a chance to try it yet on those applications.
Are you sure you don't have this backward?
iabass8 reply :
The blue NRX rods had lots of breaking issues and reel seat failures which is why they came out with the green NRX. The nrx/fluoro imx/braid would be a fine combo. i'd use the nrx for bottom contact baits any day over the IMX. I haven't had any issues with my green NRX and there are no signs that it will. The NRX series rods are incredibly sensitive. I don't know about the IMX 844 but the GLX844 is (as said before) the go to rod for a lot of people for heavier jigs. I don't own it but i've used it and it is a very nice stick. I personally like a longer rod for frogging but it will work. I believe I and a few others have answered your loomis vs croix questions very in depth in your previous thread so check there if you have any questions.
Bassn Blvd reply :
On 9/16/2012 at 4:54 AM, skeletor6 said:Thank you for your response and observations. That is interesting about the GLX, it sounds like a very nice rod!
Would it be best to use the NRX with Fluoro, since I will be light jig fishing and light plastics with it and to use the IMX with braid since it will be my frog rod and used for the heaviest of applications? Do I have to worry at all about any issues with using these rods with braid if I choose to? Such as the guides not matching up well.
Furthermore, is there any difference between the newer manufactured models of these rods compared to earlier manufactured versions? That being, these rods are still new in their plastic I would assume a newer manufacture date.
Lastly, what are the common differences between these Loomis rods and other comparable rods in their price ranges, such as St. Croix offerings?
Thank you everyone for your input. It is really helping with my understanding and decision making.
I use braid on my NRX 854c and Mono/copoly on the 893. I haven't had any issues using braig with the NRX's. Don't worry about the mono/copoly Vs the flouro sensitivity thing. If you can't feel the slightest bump with these rods then flouro isn't going to help. You have to have dead hands not to see how sensitive they are.
Yes, there are differences. The NRX's that were built during the first 6 months or year (I believe 6 months) had issues with the reel seats breaking, more specifically stripping after tightening. My reel fell completly off in my hand during a tournament. I was on fish with 10 minutes of tournament time left, haha. NRX rods built after the first 6 months or year have been corrected and I haven't heard of any issues. Both of mine were purchased when NRX first came out, but only one broke. Loomis replaced it. I'm waiting for the other one to break but so far so good.
I haven't used the top end Croix rods in about 5 years . Mostly of what I hear is that the Top end Croix rods are pretty much even to the GLX series, that it comes down to personal preference.
As far as St. Croix and NRX? Like I said, I haven't fished St.Croix in 5 years but I'd bet to say that NRX is noticably superior.
There might be some warrantydifferences. St.Croix might have a better service. I don't know. I stopped trying to keep up with the warranty wars.
roadwarrior reply :
The Legend Elite series is comparable to the G. Loomis GLX.
Probably not NRX.
skeletor6 reply :
On 9/16/2012 at 5:17 AM, iabass8 said:The blue NRX rods had lots of breaking issues and reel seat failures which is why they came out with the green NRX. The nrx/fluoro imx/braid would be a fine combo. i'd use the nrx for bottom contact baits any day over the IMX. I haven't had any issues with my green NRX and there are no signs that it will. The NRX series rods are incredibly sensitive. I don't know about the IMX 844 but the GLX844 is (as said before) the go to rod for a lot of people for heavier jigs. I don't own it but i've used it and it is a very nice stick. I personally like a longer rod for frogging but it will work. I believe I and a few others have answered your loomis vs croix questions very in depth in your previous thread so check there if you have any questions.
Thank you. Your responses and prior ones have been very helpful. Reading back on some of your posts, it appears as though the IMX and Legend tournament are somewhat comparable, where you give the edge to St. Croix. I have a recently acquired LTB70MHXF and as others have mentioned it plays heavier than some other Mfg. MH. So, I am starting to question if the IMX has a place for me right now. Is it unreasonable to use the legend tournament for heavier jigs and plastics while using the NRX for lighter?
I bought these as a pair and I am thinking it may be favorable to part with the IMX and get a GLX/NRX or Elite/xtreme in a longer heavier version, since it will be for frogging and bottom-contact use where the jump in sensitivity and length matters
On 9/16/2012 at 5:34 AM, Bassn Blvd said:I use braid on my NRX 854c and Mono/copoly on the 893. I haven't had any issues using braig with the NRX's. Don't worry about the mono/copoly Vs the flouro sensitivity thing. If you can't feel the slightest bump with these rods then flouro isn't going to help. You have to have dead hands not to see how sensitive they are.
Yes, there are differences. The NRX's that were built during the first 6 months or year (I believe 6 months) had issues with the reel seats breaking, more specifically stripping after tightening. My reel fell completly off in my hand during a tournament. I was on fish with 10 minutes of tournament time left, haha. NRX rods built after the first 6 months or year have been corrected and I haven't heard of any issues. Both of mine were purchased when NRX first came out, but only one broke. Loomis replaced it. I'm waiting for the other one to break but so far so good.
I haven't used the top end Croix rods in about 5 years . Mostly of what I hear is that the Top end Croix rods are pretty much even to the GLX series, that it comes down to personal preference.
As far as St. Croix and NRX? Like I said, I haven't fished St.Croix in 5 years but I'd bet to say that NRX is noticably superior.
There might be some warrantydifferences. St.Croix might have a better service. I don't know. I stopped trying to keep up with the warranty wars.
Wow, extremely helpful post. Sounds like either way I look at it I couldn't go wrong with the NRX. I have some copoly along with braid and Fluoro. It probably will give me a good chance to answer my old poll question about line vs. rod for what matters most for sensitivity.
I hope I don't have the first 6 month NRX's. Is there a way to tell?
Thanks for the time you put in to answer my questions and help me out.
On 9/16/2012 at 5:56 AM, roadwarrior said:The Legend Elite series is comparable to the G. Loomis GLX.
Probably not NRX.
And that thanks extends to you as well as everyone who has commented.
Bassn Blvd reply :
On 9/16/2012 at 5:17 AM, iabass8 said:The blue NRX rods had lots of breaking issues and reel seat failures which is why they came out with the green NRX.
Not completly true. The green NRX DID NOT replace the blue NRX. It was merely a second color option for the customer to choose. They STILL make the blue NRX and have corrected the real seat issue. Both rods use the same exact components.
iabass8 reply :
I thought they did away with the blue. I would hqve got blue had i known that. I was under the impression the issues were with the gen 1 nrx blue.
skeletor6 reply :
On 9/16/2012 at 2:18 PM, Bassn Blvd said:Not completly true. The green NRX DID NOT replace the blue NRX. It was merely a second color option for the customer to choose. They STILL make the blue NRX and have corrected the real seat issue. Both rods use the same exact components.
Hopefully you are right. I believe I read that as well. The confusion, I believe, is because someone could know there's does not have the issues if it was green. Hence, it could be assumed the greens replaced the blues. I have read of people sending in blues and getting blues back unless they were back ordered. Reading between the lines makes me believe they are making new blues. I could be wrong though, I hope not.
Has anyone ever weighed these rods? And what reels match up nice and balance well with the NRX and IMX?
Quillback reply :
On 9/16/2012 at 5:15 AM, Bassn Blvd said:Are you sure you don't have this backward?
Yep, I fish them both, GLX 803 is, IMO, a better bottom reader than my NRX 893. I believe there's an 803 NRX, haven't fished that one, would be interesting to have a GLX 803 and NRX 803 and test them both.
Speaking of sensitive rods, Dobyns DX 702 is another great one. A little on the light side, but great stick.
Bassn Blvd reply :
On 9/16/2012 at 6:43 PM, skeletor6 said:Hopefully you are right. I believe I read that as well. The confusion, I believe, is because someone could know there's does not have the issues if it was green. Hence, it could be assumed the greens replaced the blues. I have read of people sending in blues and getting blues back unless they were back ordered. Reading between the lines makes me believe they are making new blues. I could be wrong though, I hope not.
Has anyone ever weighed these rods? And what reels match up nice and balance well with the NRX and IMX?
Here's what happened when my reel seat broke.
I contacted Loomis-Shimano via telephone.
Customer Service (CS) e-mailed me a shipping lable that I printed.
I had to find my own rod tube.
I mailed rod to manufacturer.
I waited a week and had not received new rod.
E-mailed back n forth with the CS contact person.
I called and spoke to another person.
Was told they don't keep X amount of rods in stock at the warehouse and they were making me a new rod.
I asked if I could change the from the 893 to the 854.
Loomis complied but said they only had it green, unless I wanted to wait.
I opted for the green and had rod delivered in a couple days.
CS told me they fixed the reel seat issue after the first 6 months or year ( I forgot which one they said) ant the new blue rods shouldn't have any issues.
Bassn Blvd reply :
On 9/16/2012 at 7:43 PM, Quillback said:Yep, I fish them both, GLX 803 is, IMO, a better bottom reader than my NRX 893. I believe there's an 803 NRX, haven't fished that one, would be interesting to have a GLX 803 and NRX 803 and test them both.
Speaking of sensitive rods, Dobyns DX 702 is another great one. A little on the light side, but great stick.
I held a few Dobyn rods that a couple friends have and I thought they were nicely built. I didn't get a chance to fish them though. I was seriously thinking of buying one of their DX models.
One thing I disliked at first about the NRX rods is that they are so light that it's like setting the hook by pulling the line with your hands. It's as if the rod isn't even there.
Bassn Blvd reply :
Skeltor, The only reels I have used with the NRX's are Lews Tornament Pro TP1SH, weighing 6.7 ounces.
I used the older Chronarch 50mg on the IMX when I had it. I sold the rod but kept the reel. I'm considering selling the reel now and buying my 4th Lews. I also used my Calcuttas on the IMX/GLX.
jeb2 reply :
On 9/16/2012 at 6:43 PM, skeletor6 said:Hopefully you are right. I believe I read that as well. The confusion, I believe, is because someone could know there's does not have the issues if it was green. Hence, it could be assumed the greens replaced the blues. I have read of people sending in blues and getting blues back unless they were back ordered. Reading between the lines makes me believe they are making new blues. I could be wrong though, I hope not.
He is correct. Loomis is still making blue and green rods. Our brand new Cabela's store has like 25 NRX's on the rack and they are all blue. My local tackle shop gets both colors in with new orders. And the greens have had issues, too. Just not some of the very early issues, like the bad cork foregrips.
skeletor6 reply :
On 9/17/2012 at 5:27 AM, Bassn Blvd said:Skeltor, The only reels I have used with the NRX's are Lews Tornament Pro TP1SH, weighing 6.7 ounces.
I used the older Chronarch 50mg on the IMX when I had it. I sold the rod but kept the reel. I'm considering selling the reel now and buying my 4th Lews. I also used my Calcuttas on the IMX/GLX.
So a light reel would be best? I probably will go with that or a curado 50e since light baits will be tossed.
Curious as for why you sold the IMX? (question I am facing)
On 9/17/2012 at 6:19 AM, jeb2 said:He is correct. Loomis is still making blue and green rods. Our brand new Cabela's store has like 25 NRX's on the rack and they are all blue. My local tackle shop gets both colors in with new orders. And the greens have had issues, too. Just not some of the very early issues, like the bad cork foregrips.
Thank you guys for clearing that up. Some stress relieved there. It has to make one wonder about quality control though on such an expensive product.
Quillback reply :
On 9/17/2012 at 5:22 AM, Bassn Blvd said:I held a few Dobyn rods that a couple friends have and I thought they were nicely built. I didn't get a chance to fish them though. I was seriously thinking of buying one of their DX models.
One thing I disliked at first about the NRX rods is that they are so light that it's like setting the hook by pulling the line with your hands. It's as if the rod isn't even there.
Just for the record, I'm not knocking the NRX's (except for the QC issues which have hopefully been solved), they are great rods and I'd be happy to have a dozen or so on my deck. But, I've got other brand rods that serve me quite nicely and get the job done.
jeb2 reply :
On 9/16/2012 at 7:43 PM, Quillback said:Yep, I fish them both, GLX 803 is, IMO, a better bottom reader than my NRX 893. I believe there's an 803 NRX, haven't fished that one, would be interesting to have a GLX 803 and NRX 803 and test them both.
I had both at the same time. Actually, the 803 was my first NRX. It is more like the action of your 893 than the BCR803. I was expecting it to be more like the BCR. So was disappointed at first. But then I found the NRX's advantages. Both are great rods. When it went bad, like most of the early ones did, I turned it into an NRX853. I prefer the 853 and 893 NRX just for the extra length.
QuoteSpeaking of sensitive rods, Dobyns DX 702 is another great one. A little on the light side, but great stick.
I have the DX742 and it's a GREAT rod. Dobyn's really builds a sensitive rod.
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