H20 Express Ethos Rods.... My Oponion. 2024
CiMo reply :
After seeing some good reviews I decided to try them out... got a MH 7' rod for all purpose really. At first the rod felt good, nice and light and felt like it had a pretty stiff back bone. I had the pleasure of using it today here is what I found. 1/2 oz spinner bait..... while reeling in my rod was bending as if I had something on it ( sadly I did not ) I love my spinner baits they are my go to confidence lure... this rod dissappointed me using them... I will be taking it back to academy... now if someone here can tell me what causes that sort of thing or possibly something I'm doing to make it do such a thing feel free... also despite what anyone I've seen say says.... I think the sensitivity on these rods is not so good... just my 2 cents on them, save your money.
MichiganFishing1997 reply :
A Medium Heavy Moderate Fast rod may solve the problem
buzzfrog reply :
Was it rated 1/2 oz. Usually IMO if you max a rating it feels like a fish on it
Jrob78 reply :
That just means the rod isn't suited for big spinnerbaits. It doesn't have anything to do with the quality of the rod.
Fishwhittler reply :
Two things: That rod should be rated up to 3/4 ounce baits, and spinnerbaits are rated by the head weight alone. If it's a 1/2 ounce head the blades are going to add considerably to the weight, so yours is probably closer to 3/4 ounce. Big spinnerbaits also pull hard, so a spinnerbait with a total weight that matches the maximum weight rating of your rod is going to put a serious bend in it and make the rod feel overpowered.
Go up a power to the 7' H or the 7'6" XH and you should have plenty of rod for big spinnerbaits.
Jrob78 reply :
On 6/23/2013 at 10:55 AM, Fishwhittler said:Two things: That rod should be rated up to 3/4 ounce baits, and spinnerbaits are rated by the head weight alone. If it's a 1/2 ounce head the blades are going to add considerably to the weight, so yours is probably closer to 3/4 ounce. Big spinnerbaits also pull hard, so a spinnerbait with a total weight that matches the maximum weight rating of your rod is going to put a serious bend in it and make the rod feel overpowered.
Go up a power to the 7' H or the 7'6" XH and you should have plenty of rod for big spinnerbaits.
Agree
rockchalk06 reply :
I have to wonder if this is why one of the reasons products get bad reviews posted on the net. Sounds like you bought something and used it for a purpose it wasn't intended for and post a bad review of it?
buzzfrog reply :
On 6/23/2013 at 11:09 AM, Jrob78 said:Agree
On 6/23/2013 at 10:12 AM, Jrob78 said:That just means the rod isn't suited for big spinnerbaits. It doesn't have anything to do with the quality of the rod.
2xx that
CiMo reply :
I put the spinner on it.. that is not the only lure I used that day, my negitive aspect was more for sensitivity based off of using other lures.On 6/23/2013 at 1:37 PM, rockchalk06 said:I have to wonder if this is why one of the reasons products get bad reviews posted on the net. Sounds like you bought something and used it for a purpose it wasn't intended for and post a bad review of it?
smalljaw67 reply :
It really sounds like you may have got a 7' MH-M which means you got a medium heavy rod with a moderate action and if that is the case then yes, it will have a considerable bend in it. When you buy a rod you need to first think what you are going to use it for, if you are going to throw 1/2oz spinnerbaits you are going to want a MH fast or moderate fast action, I have a moderate action rod for cranks and it is rated for baits ove 1 ounce and a big spinnerbait will put a nice bend in the rod just retrieving it so look at what action and not the power of the rod, as I said, it sounds like you have a cranking rod.
smalljaw67 reply :
On 6/23/2013 at 10:38 PM, CiMo said:I put the spinner on it.. that is not the only lure I used that day, my negitive aspect was more for sensitivity based off of using other lures.
I'm not trying to be smart but I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed so I can't find the right words to make this sound better but here goes. If you are looking for a little more sensitive rod, you are going to need to spend a lot more than $60 bucks to get that, one thing is true with fishing tackle more than anything else and that is you get what you pay for. I'm not knocking the rod or your budget but if you are looking for a rod with a decent amount of sensitivity don't look to anything less than the $100 dollar mark. That doesn't mean rods less than that aren't good, I bought a Vendetta and was given a Daiwa Procyon which are inexpensive rods that are really good but they are good for what I use them for, and if I was going to buy a rod that I was going to use for feel type presentations I either step up and go for something in the $150 and up range or I get something a little less and use braid. braided line will increse the sensitivity of any rod unless you did end up with a cranking rod.
buzzfrog reply :
I wish i could find a the hidden MH moderate action rod, all my acedemy seems to have is MH fast. I hear people taking of them carring a crank bait rod but idk if it is true or not. I am looking for a all around crank rod but cant find this legendary h20 moderate rod lol
gallowaypt reply :
I own a few of the ethos rods and the sensitivity is waaay beyond the price point. I'd say that they are every bit as sensitive as my veritas and I have used both of them extensively.
Ima Bass Ninja reply :
On 6/24/2013 at 12:51 AM, buzzfrog said:I wish i could find a the hidden MH moderate action rod, all my acedemy seems to have is MH fast. I hear people taking of them carring a crank bait rod but idk if it is true or not. I am looking for a all around crank rod but cant find this legendary h20 moderate rod lol
I believe The only mh m crank bait ethos rod academy has is the 7'10" model. They do have the 7' m m crank bait also.
buzzfrog reply :
I haven't seem the 7'10 model. Finally picked up the 7 m and it handles dt 6s and bombers that go to 8 ft fine so I feel coveredOn 6/24/2013 at 9:31 PM, Ima Bass Ninja said:I believe The only mh m crank bait ethos rod academy has is the 7'10" model. They do have the 7' m m crank bait also.
PondBoss reply :
On 6/24/2013 at 12:51 AM, buzzfrog said:I wish i could find a the hidden MH moderate action rod, all my acedemy seems to have is MH fast. I hear people taking of them carring a crank bait rod but idk if it is true or not. I am looking for a all around crank rod but cant find this legendary h20 moderate rod lol
I don't think they carry a MH-Mod, I know they carry a 7'M composite cranking rod. I own one of every casting rod that they offer and don't have a "mythical" MH-Mod. lol At least I haven't seen one in store or on the site.
buzzfrog reply :
On 7/2/2013 at 1:14 AM, PondBoss said:I don't think they carry a MH-Mod, I know they carry a 7'M composite cranking rod. I own one of every casting rod that they offer and don't have a "mythical" MH-Mod. lol At least I haven't seen one in store or on the site.
lol I gave up, see I was told it wasnt labled but you had to find it by item # on rod, lol probably bs, but they are great ass rods, best sub 100 rod i know, Id rather nab 2 of these on sale rather 1 mojo or veritas
Ima Bass Ninja reply :
On 7/2/2013 at 1:14 AM, PondBoss said:I don't think they carry a MH-Mod, I know they carry a 7'M composite cranking rod. I own one of every casting rod that they offer and don't have a "mythical" MH-Mod. lol At least I haven't seen one in store or on the site.
On 7/2/2013 at 6:05 AM, buzzfrog said:lol I gave up, see I was told it wasnt labled but you had to find it by item # on rod, lol probably bs, but they are great ass rods, best sub 100 rod i know, Id rather nab 2 of these on sale rather 1 mojo or veritas
Here's the mh mod composite ethos rod
http://www.academy.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_10051_555203_-1
buzzfrog reply :
I do wish i could a good crankbait that runs 10 ft without being over 1/2 I have looked at kvds and dt10s seem all the 10 ft divers are 5/8oz.
ULG reply :
not all rods are created equal for sure, diff models in thr actions differ with diff speeds, js play with the rods and see what u can and cant do with them, i have myself found using a rod for something it wasnt meant for and liked it better as my intentions than the reccomendations from the company. my advice is dont settle for what the hype or what somebody tells you about a rod or for any tackle for that matter, just experiment and see what best fits you and your applications. iv been blessed with having more than plenty of rods and reels that i can pick and choose for the specific app, but if you cant do that, just make the most of the equip at hand, u might find a more applicable use for the rod. if not than luckily you can replace if for another rod that fits your style better. but with watever happens on the matter good luck with finding the rod for you! alot of choices for sure!
ULG reply :
as far as the nicknames under the screen name, i think they words associated with the amount of posts u have on here, the more posts, the better the word in relation to fishing, but thats just my observation. i could totally be worng but look at the ppl with hi number of posts, theyre little nicknames are a little more appealing to the fishing world lol. but js my thots, like i sd tho, i might have totally missed it!
skeletor6 reply :
Someone did a post a while back on spinnerbaits and their true weights. Most manufacturers spinnerbaits weigh significantly heavier than what they are stated. My loomis MBR844 IMX is just about perfect for 1/2oz rated spinnerbaits. This rod is rated as heavy.
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
Does anyone here have the 7' mh cranking composite?
mjseverson24 reply :
I throw almost exclusively 1/2 oz spinnerbaits when i use them, and have never needed to go to a heavy action rod, even 1/2 oz with double collorado blades works great on my MH rods. try the berkley lightning shock rod 7' MH for $50.00 it will throw these spinners just fine for the price.
Mitch
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 6/23/2013 at 10:43 PM, smalljaw67 said:It really sounds like you may have got a 7' MH-M which means you got a medium heavy rod with a moderate action and if that is the case then yes, it will have a considerable bend in it. When you buy a rod you need to first think what you are going to use it for, if you are going to throw 1/2oz spinnerbaits you are going to want a MH fast or moderate fast action, I have a moderate action rod for cranks and it is rated for baits ove 1 ounce and a big spinnerbait will put a nice bend in the rod just retrieving it so look at what action and not the power of the rod, as I said, it sounds like you have a cranking rod.
Same thing I was thinking, sounds like a cranking rod instead of a fast action. I fish my spinnerbaits on a 6' 6" MH/F and have no problem with 1/2oz spinnerbaits on it. I can't seem to find a rod matching that description (7' MH/M) on their website but that doesn't mean they don't carry it, possibly something they got in special at some point or a rod they only carry at a few stores and therefore don't offer it online.
I've fished with a couple of the Ethos rods and they feel very nice. They aren't as sensitive as my LTB rods but I didn't expect them to be. I plan on buying a couple when they go on sale in the spring so I have rods for a couple reels that I just have laying around right now.
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
On 12/4/2013 at 7:58 AM, mjseverson24 said:I throw almost exclusively 1/2 oz spinnerbaits when i use them, and have never needed to go to a heavy action rod, even 1/2 oz with double collorado blades works great on my MH rods. try the berkley lightning shock rod 7' MH for $50.00 it will throw these spinners just fine for the price.
Mitch
I am thinking about getting one... Would you say the power/action of this medium heavy composite cranker relates to other manufacturers medium power or medium heavy power (graphite rods, not composite)?
I have heard they are rated to high and are actually more medium than medium heavy, but then again these are composite cranker rods with a more parabolic type of bend..
Thanks
mjseverson24 reply :
On 12/5/2013 at 8:39 AM, aprw1 said:I am thinking about getting one... Would you say the power/action of this medium heavy composite cranker relates to other manufacturers medium power or medium heavy power (graphite rods, not composite)?
I have heard they are rated to high and are actually more medium than medium heavy, but then again these are composite cranker rods with a more parabolic type of bend..
Thanks
The MH shock rod is a true MH I have fished it for buzzbaits in some pretty nasty stuff and it pulls fish up to 6 lbs out of bullrushes, milfoil and wild rice with no problem. I actually used this rod last year in a tournament throwing SK Bottom dweller spinners in the 1 oz and it handled them just fine. for the pricerange and moving baits it is hard to beat these rods.
Mitch
WiregrassRiverRat reply :
On 6/23/2013 at 10:55 AM, Fishwhittler said:Two things: That rod should be rated up to 3/4 ounce baits, and spinnerbaits are rated by the head weight alone. If it's a 1/2 ounce head the blades are going to add considerably to the weight, so yours is probably closer to 3/4 ounce. Big spinnerbaits also pull hard, so a spinnerbait with a total weight that matches the maximum weight rating of your rod is going to put a serious bend in it and make the rod feel overpowered.
Go up a power to the 7' H or the 7'6" XH and you should have plenty of rod for big spinnerbaits.
HE SPEAKS... NO LIES.... I would say a 7'3 Heavy.. you could launch a spinnerbait at 1/2- 3/4 a mile and a quarter.. assuming your spool is big enough
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
On 12/5/2013 at 12:03 PM, mjseverson24 said:The MH shock rod is a true MH I have fished it for buzzbaits in some pretty nasty stuff and it pulls fish up to 6 lbs out of bullrushes, milfoil and wild rice with no problem. I actually used this rod last year in a tournament throwing SK Bottom dweller spinners in the 1 oz and it handled them just fine. for the pricerange and moving baits it is hard to beat these rods.
Mitch
How does the power of the MH composite cranker ethos compare to say St. Croix rod powers? I am more familiar with that make of rods.
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