Johnny Morris Rods 2024
dodgeguy reply :
Just got my BPS MASTER CATALOG today. I was looking through it and noticed all BPS Johnny Morris rods now have a 10 year warranty. And that is with no price increase. From the Carbonlite to the Patriot this applies. I know I'm going to pick up another Patriot for my birthday since I love the one I have. For $199 I don't think I you can do better than that. The rods are extremely light and well balanced. They have Fuji SIC micro guides which I love.
They are strong too. I caught many hard pulling fish on my 7ft medium fast Patriot last year.And on top of that the Patriot is made in USA.
OnthePotomac reply :
Our grandson had a Carbonlite about 10 years ago on which a line guide came off and returned it to BPS with no receipt. He was given a new rod with no problem at all and they even apologized to him for having the problem.
LCG reply :
Wow that's pretty good customer service. Hope I never need to test it out for myself but good to know.
dodgeguy reply :
Back then it was a 1 year warranty.. It depended what associate you got after 1 year was up. Now it's 10.
rawjuice reply :
I have 5 Carbonlites, 4 first gen and 1 2nd gen, they are my fav to use out of all the other rods I own. Im actually looking for more to add if I find anyone selling for a good price.
BaitFinesse reply :
Handled a Patriot at my local bass pro. It was very tip heavy. Just fyi.
dodgeguy reply :
Didn't really get that feeling with mine.
Shimano_1 reply :
I think all the basspro rods are fantastic for their price point. I honestly hate supporting them after all that's went down in the last few years...but...at the end of the day it's the best option for me. I need gear that's affordable, quality, and if I have a problem I can't run to the store and get it taken care of. Good to hear they've made the warranty 10 years...makes it even better.
LCG reply :
Does anyone know if this extends to rods purchased before the warranty extension?
Just curious as I bought my carbonlites 2.0 versions last spring during their sale. Never had an issue and love them, would definitely buy them again but even better to know their covered even longer.
dodgeguy reply :
On 1/10/2020 at 9:25 AM, LCG said:Does anyone know if this extends to rods purchased before the warranty extension?
Just curious as I bought my carbonlites 2.0 versions last spring during their sale. Never had an issue and love them, would definitely buy them again but even better to know their covered even longer.
I would doubt it. If you break one you could ask if they would replace it. You never know. Sometimes companies have unwritten policies.
Tizi reply :
I have 3 Carbon Lite 2.0 rods, 2 casting, 1 spinning. Got them last year for $79 each. For that price, fantastic rods.
ChrisD46 reply :
On 1/11/2020 at 2:01 AM, Tizi said:I have 3 Carbon Lite 2.0 rods, 2 casting, 1 spinning. Got them last year for $79 each. For that price, fantastic rods.
*I agree , best to wait for a sale (if possible) as Carbonlite rods usually go on sale at Christmas and possibly one more time during the year ...
WRB reply :
On 1/8/2020 at 7:02 AM, dodgeguy said:Just got my BPS MASTER CATALOG today. I was looking through it and noticed all BPS Johnny Morris rods now have a 10 year warranty. And that is with no price increase. From the Carbonlite to the Patriot this applies. I know I'm going to pick up another Patriot for my birthday since I love the one I have. For $199 I don't think I you can do better than that. The rods are extremely light and well balanced. They have Fuji SIC micro guides which I love.
They are strong too. I caught many hard pulling fish on my 7ft medium fast Patriot last year.And on top of that the Patriot is made in USA.
Made where in the USA?
Tom
dodgeguy reply :
You'd have to ask them. But you can't legally put that on a product that isn't.
FishTank reply :
On 1/11/2020 at 7:11 AM, WRB said:Made where in the USA?
Tom
I am curious as well. I would guess like most made in the USA items, only the legal limit of the item in question is used (50%). I would also guess that the components are all made overseas and assembled here. I could be wrong but that is the way most of the things I have seen in manufacturing are these days.
MN Fisher reply :
On 1/11/2020 at 11:27 AM, FishTank said:I am curious as well. I would guess like most made in the USA items, only the legal limit of the item in question is used (50%). I would also guess that the components are all made overseas and assembled here. I could be wrong but that is the way most of the things I have seen in manufacturing are these days.
Actually, the FTC is much more stringent.
What is the standard for a product to be called Made in USA without qualification?
For a product to be called Made in USA, or claimed to be of domestic origin without qualifications or limits on the claim, the product must be "all or virtually all" made in the U.S. The term "United States," as referred to in the Enforcement Policy Statement, includes the 50 states, the District of Columbia, and the U.S. territories and possessions.
What does "all or virtually all" mean?
"All or virtually all" means that all significant parts and processing that go into the product must be of U.S. origin. That is, the product should contain no — or negligible — foreign content.
https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/complying-made-usa-standard
FishTank reply :
On 1/11/2020 at 11:52 AM, MN Fisher said:Actually, the FTC is much more stringent.
What is the standard for a product to be called Made in USA without qualification?
For a product to be called Made in USA, or claimed to be of domestic origin without qualifications or limits on the claim, the product must be "all or virtually all" made in the U.S. The term "United States," as referred to in the Enforcement Policy Statement, includes the 50 states, the District of Columbia, and the U.S. territories and possessions.
What does "all or virtually all" mean?
"All or virtually all" means that all significant parts and processing that go into the product must be of U.S. origin. That is, the product should contain no — or negligible — foreign content.
https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/complying-made-usa-standard
From the same ftc.gov page.....
Buy American Act — Requires that a product be manufactured in the U.S. of more than 50 percent U.S. parts to be considered Made in USA for government procurement purposes. For more information, review the Buy American Act at 41 U.S.C. §§ 10a-10c, the Federal Acquisition Regulations at 48 C.F.R. Part 25, and the Trade Agreements Act at 19 U.S.C. §§ 2501-2582.
I hate to say it but I work for a company that uses both US and foreign components in their machines and we note it. All of the manufactures and suppliers of parts I deal with are this way. All claim "Made in the USA".
LCG reply :
Wherever they are made they seem very well put together, no flaws on either of my carbonlites and the eyes are perfectly aligned. Good value rod for the money. Plenty sensitive for my needs.
NOC 1 reply :
On 1/11/2020 at 11:59 AM, FishTank said:From the same ftc.gov page.....
Buy American Act — Requires that a product be manufactured in the U.S. of more than 50 percent U.S. parts to be considered Made in USA for government procurement purposes. For more information, review the Buy American Act at 41 U.S.C. §§ 10a-10c, the Federal Acquisition Regulations at 48 C.F.R. Part 25, and the Trade Agreements Act at 19 U.S.C. §§ 2501-2582.
I hate to say it but I work for a company that uses both US and foreign components in their machines and we note it. All of the manufactures and suppliers of parts I deal with are this way. All claim "Made in the USA".
Read closely. The excerpt you quoted here is referring to the term "Made in the USA as it applies to Government purchases". That is ALL that this will apply to. When parsing legal and technical documentation, one cannot extrapolate meaning except as it is specifically stated. So, unless you are reading a bid as a Federal Procurement agent, this doesn't apply to the Term Made in the USA.
You might be correct with your point, but this reference isn't evidence of it..
dodgeguy reply :
On 1/10/2020 at 7:32 AM, BaitFinesse said:Handled a Patriot at my local bass pro. It was very tip heavy. Just fyi.
Ok I just checked my 7 ft medium with a Lews tournament pro on it. It balances 1 inch in front of the reel with no weights on butt end. That's hardly tip heavy. Of course longer rods would be farther up.
jbrew73 reply :
Carbonlites are really nice rods and compare in sensitivity and quality to some brands costing twice as much. Too bad I don’t care for the reel seats and grips, otherwise I would have many more of them .
dodgeguy reply :
What don't you like about the reel seats?
Spankey reply :
On 1/12/2020 at 4:31 AM, dodgeguy said:Ok I just checked my 7 ft medium with a Lews tournament pro on it. It balances 1 inch in front of the reel with no weights on butt end. That's hardly tip heavy. Of course longer rods would be farther up.
I would think a balance check should be done with the reel you expect to use or with the new one you are planning to buy. A longer rod will fill or possible feel tip heavy with nothing on it.
dodgeguy reply :
On 1/12/2020 at 9:30 AM, Spankey said:I would think a balance check should be done with the reel you expect to use or with the new one you are planning to buy. A longer rod will fill or possible feel tip heavy with nothing on it.
Theoretically a perfectly balanced rod balances in the middle of the reel seat. This would make reel weight of no consequence. But being that no rod is perfectly balanced unless you add weight then the reel does matter.the reel I was using weighs 6.4 oz. So that is fairly light yet the rod still balances close to the reel. IMHO that is not tip heavy.
Spankey reply :
On 1/12/2020 at 9:43 AM, dodgeguy said:Theoretically a perfectly balanced rod balances in the middle of the reel seat. This would make reel weight of no consequence. But being that no rod is perfectly balanced unless you add weight then the reel does matter.the reel I was using weighs 6.4 oz. So that is fairly light yet the rod still balances close to the reel. IMHO that is not tip heavy.
I would agree. I just ordered a particular rod. Should have it in about a week. I have (3) reels in mind that I'm considering. I'll find all three and put them on that rod and get the one that feels the best to me. I find that works best.
jbrew73 reply :
On 1/12/2020 at 9:26 AM, dodgeguy said:What don't you like about the reel seats?
There is nothing wrong with them as far as quality or anything. I just prefer the way fuji ecs style fits my hands.
Chief250 reply :
They make and sell a ton of rods. If they are made here in the United States somebody has to know where.
crankbait2009 reply :
Anyone know if this 10 year warranty applies to the Platinum Signature Series (red casting rod)?
I was looking on BPS website but I didn't see anything mention the warranty
dodgeguy reply :
On 1/15/2020 at 9:05 PM, crankbait2009 said:Anyone know if this 10 year warranty applies to the Platinum Signature Series (red casting rod)?
I was looking on BPS website but I didn't see anything mention the warranty
Yes. It's in the master catalog. Have them send you one.
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