MLF Summit Cup 2024
CTBassin860 reply :
Anyone else watch this??
Onvacation reply :
I do. Great entertainment to me.
XzyluM reply :
One of the few shows I have set to record.
12poundbass reply :
Absolutely do! I really enjoy this format, it's a lot more entertaining and seems like it would be easier to do with live TV.
CTBassin860 reply :
Watching Keith Poche tear it up right now.
razor6570 reply :
Very good show. I enjoy watching how each of the anglers react to the score tracker!
Some handle it very well while other become very irritated.
Keith Poche had a great day.
Love to fish that kind of tournament. I would be the person that wouldn't handle to score tracker going off constantly! It would stress me out to the max!
12poundbass reply :
On 1/18/2017 at 8:48 AM, razor6570 said:Very good show. I enjoy watching how each of the anglers react to the score tracker!
Some handle it very well while other become very irritated.
Keith Poche had a great day.
Love to fish that kind of tournament. I would be the person that wouldn't handle to score tracker going off constantly! It would stress me out to the max!
Me too! If I were having a bad day and the score tracker kept going off I'd probably crawl up in a little ball in the back of the boat and chew my fingers to a nub!
Oregon Native reply :
Very enjoyable....hoping to see one on some waters near knoxville that I've been on. But look forward every week to this show.
riverbasser reply :
I'm a big fan. How did y'all feel about that guy going in front of James Watson and catching that 5lber? Can't remember his name.
On 1/18/2017 at 8:25 AM, MassBassin508 said:Watching Keith Poche tear it up right now.
Did you catch him tying on that rat during the break to try to throw them off. Lol
wdp reply :
MLF is by far the best tourney fishing to watch on TV. Love the format, love that every scorable fish counts, and the live score tracker def throws most the anglers off & puts them in spin control mode. The best part is that locations are kept secret until it's time to fish. No prefishing, no practice. They just gotta go & catch em.
Ive recorded & watched every show the last 2 & half years.
On 1/18/2017 at 9:33 AM, riverbasser said:I'm a big fan. How did y'all feel about that guy going in front of James Watson and catching that 5lber? Can't remember his name.
Did you catch him tying on that rat during the break to try to throw them off. Lol
That was Kevin Short that cut in front of Watson. I think if Watson had run to the docks with his big spoon sooner in period 3, he'd have won, like last year.
riverbasser reply :
I agree!
Smallieseeker reply :
Best show on tv! I have just about every season on DVD now.
Crestliner2008 reply :
I would never miss a show! Best fishing entertainment on the tube. However, one thing I have a problem with is that it is unclear (to me anyway) what the actual progression is for moving up the rankings. They have the Summit Cup rounds, survival rounds, etc.. Wish they'd show a flow chart on how it all comes about.
12poundbass reply :
On 1/18/2017 at 7:51 PM, Crestliner2008 said:I would never miss a show! Best fishing entertainment on the tube. However, one thing I have a problem with is that it is unclear (to me anyway) what the actual progression is for moving up the rankings. They have the Summit Cup rounds, survival rounds, etc.. Wish they'd show a flow chart on how it all comes about.
I did see a while back how the points were awarded. If I remember correctly it's how well they do throughout they year? I think Jason Quinn and Byron Velvick last year were knocked down to the select bracket and a couple of the select guys moved up. If you're in the selects group you have to fish move and do better to make it to the summit cup. I think I have it right, if I don't someone will chime in and steer me and you in the right direction.
Bluebasser86 reply :
My favorite fishing show on TV right now. We've used certain aspects of the format and based our little tournament series off them. It's fun in real life too.
RichF reply :
On 1/18/2017 at 9:33 AM, riverbasser said:I'm a big fan. How did y'all feel about that guy going in front of James Watson and catching that 5lber? Can't remember his name.
Did you catch him tying on that rat during the break to try to throw them off. Lol
I lost a little respect for Kevin Short after he did that and I'm by no means a Watson fan. MLF is entertaining but I'd really like to see them adopt the biggest five rule (or something like it) to discourage the shakey head, bank-beating, dink-fests a little.
1simplemann reply :
Easily my favorite fishing show. What I don't understand is how these new guys get to be on show at all. There are some very big names on the FLW circuit that are not on it. Scott Martin, Andy Morgan, the Richardson brothers etc. Do they not get asked? Nothing against the new guys but I would like to see how the heavy hitters in the FLW stack up against the Elite guys. Either way I love the show
On 1/18/2017 at 9:52 PM, RichF said:
I lost a little respect for Kevin Short after he did that and I'm by no means a Watson fan. MLF is entertaining but I'd really like to see them adopt the biggest five rule (or something like it) to discourage the shakey head, bank-beating, dink-fests a little.
That was a jerk move on KS's part. Either love Watson or you hate him. Personally i find him amusing although at times he can be too much. He kinda got what he deserved by shoving those fish in KS's face. He should have just kept fishing and let the score tracker do the talking for him. The every fish rule is what makes the show and separates it from the others. If your catch'n em', your catch'n em,
12poundbass reply :
On 1/18/2017 at 9:52 PM, RichF said:
I lost a little respect for Kevin Short after he did that and I'm by no means a Watson fan. MLF is entertaining but I'd really like to see them adopt the biggest five rule (or something like it) to discourage the shakey head, bank-beating, dink-fests a little.
I too get a little bored with the dink fest, however in return you do get to see how these guys die-sect in most cases an unknown body of water. I look at it as a trade off from the dink fest.
Team9nine reply :
On 1/18/2017 at 9:58 PM, 1simplemann said:What I don't understand is how these new guys get to be on show at all. There are some very big names on the FLW circuit that are not on it. Scott Martin, Andy Morgan, the Richardson brothers etc. Do they not get asked? Nothing against the new guys but I would like to see how the heavy hitters in the FLW stack up against the Elite guys.
The original Select offer went out to a lot of guys from both circuits. Basically came down to the first 24 that signed on and ponied up the money to compete. I'm sure some didn't have the $$ while others simply didn't want to or were on the fence. I believe the original 24 then get first crack at renewing again each year.
CTBassin860 reply :
Watson was breaking off his Bagleys on stumps too
riverbasser reply :
I find Watson hilarious on TV but probably could not fish with the guy in real life.
Catching and weighing every scorable bass is what make MLF a good show IMO. Best 5 would cut out all the content like score tracker updates and getting guys nervous. It would also force the anglers to fish a lot deeper in the summer which would mean a lot of time going by not catching anything since they don't know the lake. I enjoy the speed and anxiety of it since I always pick a favorite who I want to win and when their struggling I get in on the anxiousness.
N Florida Mike reply :
I love the show but still dont understand how someone is eliminated ,moves on,rankings and all that. I totally get the fishing format, just dont understand the rest.Its actually more fun than frustrating to try and figure it out.
The commercials are even good.My favorite is the line one with the japanese angler (His name escapes me at the moment )Summarizing what all the good ol boys said.I laugh or smile every time.
I wish theyd do one on the st johns river.I used to fish it a lot,and would love to see where theyd fish and how.
Skeeter Dan reply :
I watch it every weekend and when I can't . I record it
riverbasser reply :
On 1/19/2017 at 1:18 AM, N Florida Mike said:I love the show but still dont understand how someone is eliminated ,moves on,rankings and all that. I totally get the fishing format, just dont understand the rest.Its actually more fun than frustrating to try and figure it out.
The commercials are even good.My favorite is the line one with the japanese angler (His name escapes me at the moment )Summarizing what all the good ol boys said.I laugh or smile every time.
I wish theyd do one on the st johns river.I used to fish it a lot,and would love to see where theyd fish and how.
Right now in the qualifying select rounds there are 3 rounds with 6 different anglers. The winner moves on immediately to the summit cup. 2nd, 3rd, and 4th get to fish again in a second chance elimination round. 5th and 6th place are eliminated. Maybe this helps a little mike
Team9nine reply :
Everything MLF Select including brackets and points explained here:
Major League Fishing Selects
N Florida Mike reply :
It helps a little.But it seems like the ones that are eliminated pop up again later fishing another one.I wish there was a bracket of different events,whos fishing them,who won,lost,placed,was eliminated etc.All I see is whats happenning with that particular day and a quick showing of rankings which I dont understand either.I know a lot of its me and no one else has a problem??
I still love the show.
Team9nine reply :
The one problem with MLF is that the events were all fished last year. So they already know who has won, who has made the Cups and how they did, along with which two anglers advanced to permanent MLF status. However, none of that can be revealed until they play through the entire season on television this year. That precludes them from posting a lot of points updates and brackets that would probably make things more clear. I think they could still do a little better though in this area regardless.
curtis9 reply :
I love watching. I'm glad it's every fish and not top 5. There's more action that way, and that's typically how I fish, so I feel I actually learn something watching how the pros approach this event
Oregon Native reply :
In a nutshell it's definitly nice to not have a show that's like every thing else. MLF is MLF.....still like it and will watch it every week.
1simplemann reply :
On 1/18/2017 at 10:42 PM, Team9nine said:
The original Select offer went out to a lot of guys from both circuits. Basically came down to the first 24 that signed on and ponied up the money to compete. I'm sure some didn't have the $$ while others simply didn't want to or were on the fence. I believe the original 24 then get first crack at renewing again each year.
So I wonder how much the entry fee is? You would think that guys in the top 20 of the FLW would be itching to prove what they could do agianst the Elite. As far as I can tell, only Wheeler and Rose are in there.
RichF reply :
On 1/18/2017 at 11:12 PM, riverbasser said:I find Watson hilarious on TV but probably could not fish with the guy in real life.
Catching and weighing every scorable bass is what make MLF a good show IMO. Best 5 would cut out all the content like score tracker updates and getting guys nervous. It would also force the anglers to fish a lot deeper in the summer which would mean a lot of time going by not catching anything since they don't know the lake. I enjoy the speed and anxiety of it since I always pick a favorite who I want to win and when their struggling I get in on the anxiousness.
I don't think having a largest 5 (or some form of that) would remove the effectiveness of the score tracker or limit the competitors' nervousness. I imagine a large number of anglers would continue to do the same thing they always do because they know it's such a gamble to try and fish for bigger ones. But, can you imagine if a guy is tossing a shakey head all day, catching 12 inchers and he sees KVD in the distance graphing off shore? I bet he'd be pretty dang nervous. I know I would be. He'd be telling himself "If Kevin catches 2 out there, they'll likely be heavier than my 5 dinks. Should I switch to a big jig and try to entice a big bite, go look offshore also, or just hope he blanks?" Adding that element gives the anglers another extra tough decision to make. On the flipside, the offshore guys would see the scoretracker lighting up frequently and even if they're small keepers being caught, they'd still be thinking..."Crap, should I just go in a try and get a limit then do this? I don't wanna get beat by a 7 pound bag."
There will always be enough excitement and fish catches for each episode as well. Six top pros with six+ cameramen surrounding them for six hours....plenty of footage for an hour and a half show. When it comes down to it, I would just like to see these guys fish something different from time to time and I feel the only way that will change is if the scoring method is adjusted.
RichF reply :
On 1/19/2017 at 6:17 AM, curtis9 said:I love watching. I'm glad it's every fish and not top 5. There's more action that way, and that's typically how I fish, so I feel I actually learn something watching how the pros approach this event
I may be alone on this one but I don't think there's much of anything to learn from MLF. Maybe the spoon in the dock thing but other than that... The competitors all approach it relatively the same and that approach is really no different than how most bass anglers would approach new water. Find visible cover and go to work. This actually isn't an issue for me because I think the intention of the show is more for entertainment purposes rather than education.
Team9nine reply :
On 1/19/2017 at 10:12 PM, 1simplemann said:So I wonder how much the entry fee is? You would think that guys in the top 20 of the FLW would be itching to prove what they could do agianst the Elite. As far as I can tell, only Wheeler and Rose are in there.
Others were offered. It's who accepts first for the most part. And while I wouldn't term it an entry fee, I can tell you it is a lower 5 figure number that each paid to compete for 1 year.
On 1/20/2017 at 2:11 AM, RichF said:This actually isn't an issue for me because I think the intention of the show is more for entertainment purposes rather than education.
The entertainment part is a big component. This is made for TV drama trying to reach a large "average Joe" audience - almost reality TV in a sense. Obviously there is a learning component also, but that is secondary IMO. And personally, I'd lose a lot of interest in the format if they went to a best 5. What they're doing seems to be working and having some influence on the industry in general. I like the change and direction.
fishwizzard reply :
I don't have cable, but ponied up the $10 or whatever to watch them online. I learn a lot from the show, but mostly when it comes to casting technique. It is amazing how fluid some of these guys are.
OCdockskipper reply :
On 1/20/2017 at 2:42 AM, Team9nine said:
... And while I wouldn't term it an entry fee, I can tell you it is a lower 5 figure number that each paid to compete for 1 year.
Would it be correct to assume that the anglers get paid based off the income the show makes from network payments? I would think the advertising dollars are going to the network & the network pays for the rights to the episodes.
My first impression is that the anglers were paid not unlike other sports, i.e., they signed a contract to compete and made their money regardless of their results. Kicking out the bottom two would be incentive for guys not to mail it in on tough days while the selects would work like a farm system to introduce new blood. From your account, it sounds as if my impression was incorrect.
Team9nine reply :
On 1/20/2017 at 4:14 AM, OCdockskipper said:Would it be correct to assume that the anglers get paid based off the income the show makes from network payments? I would think the advertising dollars are going to the network & the network pays for the rights to the episodes.
My first impression is that the anglers were paid not unlike other sports, i.e., they signed a contract to compete and made their money regardless of their results. Kicking out the bottom two would be incentive for guys not to mail it in on tough days while the selects would work like a farm system to introduce new blood. From your account, it sounds as if my impression was incorrect.
I think you pretty much have it to the degree that I'm aware of. The Selects now feed into the permanent side of MLF. The original concept before Selects was the pro anglers bought into a business model to produce a show/product, and revenue streams would come later as sponsors, advertisers and tv revenue grew. Selects were a way to expand the business, as well as a way to replace original "owner/anglers" as they left for whatever reason. I believe they now have a bump out format where the two lowest core group members get replaced by the two highest Selects after a two year points run.
Select winners do get a check as I understand it, but I don't believe they pay down the standings at all. Same for Summit and Challenge Cup winners, at least if they come from the Select side (6 do for each event). I don't know exactly how the core group gets paid for investing in the business, but it is likely some form of profit sharing distributed on a regular basis.
wdp reply :
On 1/18/2017 at 9:58 PM, 1simplemann said:Easily my favorite fishing show. What I don't understand is how these new guys get to be on show at all. There are some very big names on the FLW circuit that are not on it. Scott Martin, Andy Morgan, the Richardson brothers etc. Do they not get asked? Nothing against the new guys but I would like to see how the heavy hitters in the FLW stack up against the Elite guys.
I don't think some of the pros care for the MLF format. Not to drop names (yeah, I really am ?) but I was actually joking with Ed Evers & Rick Clunn about MLF. Evers had just recently won a cup event on MLF. I was talking to Clunn & I jokingly asked Evers when was he gonna talk Clunn into start fishing some of the MLF tourneys. RC said doesn't like the format. Said he thinks it leads to too much crowding and guys fishing on top of each other.
He's a cool dude & def old skool, but I knew what he meant. My mind immediately went to an episode where Hackney was slaying em on a shallow bite in some flats. By end of 2nd period, half the field was fishing the same spot. At start of 3rd period I think the whole field was fishing those flats. Lol.
In the elite series it's kinda an unwritten code that when somebody's on the fish with a chance to win, you stay outta their way & off their spot. Although, some don't abide by this "code", I think most of them do, especially the seasoned veterans.
1simplemann reply :
It's probably no doubt that some pro's don't care for the format but at the same time if you look at the line-ups, they are predominantly Elite guys with a few FLW guys sprinkled in. With the exception Wheeler,Suggs and Rose, there really aren't alot of the heavy hitters from FLW side. Canterbury, Martin, Morgan, Wendlandt, Strader, Johnstons',Kinney, Cox, Neal, Dudley, Arey, Robertson, Blaylock. These guys are all missing. If you look at the Elite guys are all some the best the Elite have to offer. A new guy comes in from the FLW side and I have to look him up to find out who he is. I would think some of those in the list I mentioned would just itching to prove what they can do against KVD, Hackney, Ehler, Lane etc.
Team9nine reply :
The whole concept was formed by a couple Elite anglers, so it isn't a huge surprise that most of the initial 24 were Elite anglers. Ehrler and Stone were the two exceptions. More recently with the Selects, they reached out more to the FLW side with guys like Christie (since moved to Elites), Birge, Ashmore, Lefebre, Rose, Wheeler (now Elite), Suggs and Strader now competing. Even Watson and Defoe were regulars on the FLW side for years.
Keep in mind many of the others might have been offered a chance but chose not to accept for a variety of reasons.
12poundbass reply :
Wasn't it Duckett and Klien who started MLF?
Team9nine reply :
On 1/20/2017 at 11:32 PM, 12poundbass said:Wasn't it Duckett and Klien who started MLF?
There were 14 (or 15 depending upon which story you read) guys that met and formed the initial company/organization back in 2009. That group, including KVD, Ike, Tak, E2, Ish, Skeet and Rojas, selected Duckett and Klein to be the leaders/representatives of the organization. Duckett worked the business side while Klein developed the tourney format. The actual "product" was launched a couple years later (2011).
12poundbass reply :
On 1/20/2017 at 11:55 PM, Team9nine said:
There were 14 (or 15 depending upon which story you read) guys that met and formed the initial company/organization back in 2009. That group, including KVD, Ike, Tak, E2, Ish, Skeet and Rojas, selected Duckett and Klein to be the leaders/representatives of the organization. Duckett worked the business side while Klein developed the tourney format. The actual "product" was launched a couple years later (2011).
Interesting. I haven't read up on it too much, only knew of the two. Good to know though. I wonder how BASS felt about that? I realize these guys are still on the Elites and are paying customers and doing great things for BASS. However they've developed a great product that has changed some peoples opinions. I think they've also made BASS rethink and change their approach a bit, example their MLF version they did this summer that received some blow back from some because it was virtually the same format (J-Pow sand bagging didn't help).
Team9nine reply :
Definitely having some influence in the industry, and I expect more to come. It's putting some of the anglers in more of a position of leverage with the larger tourney orgs. I'm guessing BASS took a little offense to the initial moves, but has since accepted and is playing along. The pros tried something similar many years prior with the creation of the PAA (which ultimately failed). This go around, they got everything right, and created an ownership based and profit sharing vehicle very similar to the NBA and the NFL, albeit on a much smaller scale and with limited membership. The best part is MLF is a stand alone entity, so no matter what happens at BASS or FLW, it has no effect on MLF.
12poundbass reply :
On 1/21/2017 at 1:55 AM, Team9nine said:Definitely having some influence in the industry, and I expect more to come. It's putting some of the anglers in more of a position of leverage with the larger tourney orgs. I'm guessing BASS took a little offense to the initial moves, but has since accepted and is playing along. The pros tried something similar many years prior with the creation of the PAA (which ultimately failed). This go around, they got everything right, and created an ownership based and profit sharing vehicle very similar to the NBA and the NFL, albeit on a much smaller scale and with limited membership. The best part is MLF is a stand alone entity, so no matter what happens at BASS or FLW, it has no effect on MLF.
I totally agree they got it right! It's everything you want/need in a tourney to keep people in suspense and to keep their attention. I'm looking forward to seeing what they'll do next with the MLF.
wdp reply :
This is very interesting info on how it started. Pretty cool.
@Team9nine how did you find out all this info? Sounds like you used to tourney fish a lot so I'm wondering if you know some of the elites involved with its incarnation.
Team9nine reply :
On 1/21/2017 at 3:05 AM, wdp said:This is very interesting info on how it started. Pretty cool.
@Team9nine how did you find out all this info? Sounds like you used to tourney fish a lot so I'm wondering if you know some of the elites involved with its incarnation.
Tourney fished for 25 years, then spent the next 10 writing about various aspects of the sport as well as being a personal friend/mentor to one of the current Elite/MLF guys...
-T9
12poundbass reply :
On 1/21/2017 at 4:40 AM, Team9nine said:
Tourney fished for 25 years, then spent the next 10 writing about various aspects of the sport as well as being a personal friend/mentor to one of the current Elite/MLF guys...
-T9
Interesting...do you mind steering me in the direction of some of your writings?
Team9nine reply :
On 1/21/2017 at 4:52 AM, 12poundbass said:Interesting...do you mind steering me in the direction of some of your writings?
Just sent you a PM with some links to avoid crossing any lines in regard to self-promotion on the site...
-T9
OCdockskipper reply :
On 1/20/2017 at 2:00 AM, RichF said:
I don't think having a largest 5 (or some form of that) would remove the effectiveness of the score tracker or limit the competitors' nervousness...
While I agree with the above statement, I do think that having the largest 5 would remove the effectiveness of the format itself. Part of the MLF appeal is the different format, the choice between trying to catch many small fish versus a few larger fish. Limiting the number of fish that are counted would tip the scales towards those who target larger fish. The difficulty in catching larger fish is already balanced by the fact that they are worth more and you don't need to catch as many to equal a competitors total.
More importantly, I believe that MLF has captured how a large percentage of us fish for fun. Outside of a 5 fish tournament format, if one is practicing catch & release, very few people would choose to spend the day catching five 3 lb fish instead of twenty 1 lb fish with one or two larger fish added in. In a 5 fish tourney, a person may sit on a location for 8 hours looking for 5 bites. Very few folks do that when fun fishing, instead they are constantly looking for that area or bait which is creating the most action. By introducing a format which emulates the way most people fish for fun, they have created a product in which one can imagine they are participating in every time they are out on the water.
On 1/18/2017 at 9:01 PM, Bluebasser86 said:...We've used certain aspects of the format and based our little tournament series off them. It's fun in real life too.
Assuming you are using the "every fish counts" aspect, I assume it changed how you fish while in a tournament. By chance, has it also increased your use of the Ned rig during tournament time?
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 1/23/2017 at 5:12 AM, OCdockskipper said:
Assuming you are using the "every fish counts" aspect, I assume it changed how you fish while in a tournament. By chance, has it also increased your use of the Ned rig during tournament time?
We're actually using the weigh and immediately release, along with allowing "keepers" to be under the actual length limits. It's still a 5 bass format though.
RichF reply :
On 1/23/2017 at 5:12 AM, OCdockskipper said:
More importantly, I believe that MLF has captured how a large percentage of us fish for fun. Outside of a 5 fish tournament format, if one is practicing catch & release, very few people would choose to spend the day catching five 3 lb fish instead of twenty 1 lb fish with one or two larger fish added in. In a 5 fish tourney, a person may sit on a location for 8 hours looking for 5 bites. Very few folks do that when fun fishing, instead they are constantly looking for that area or bait which is creating the most action. By introducing a format which emulates the way most people fish for fun, they have created a product in which one can imagine they are participating in every time they are out on the water.
This actually makes a lot of sense and is probably the reason I feel the way I do about the MLF format. 99.9% of the time I'm fishing for larger fish so that's what I identify with more.
RichF reply :
@Team9nine Thanks for all the MLF background info. I knew very little about how it got started so I appreciate the info. Even though I complain about all the small fish caught during competition, I still like what MLF is doing and hope they keep expanding.
CTBassin860 reply :
Martens 88 pounds to take the single day record away from KVD! That was pretty awesome.
Gundog reply :
On 2/12/2017 at 11:47 PM, MassBassin508 said:Martens 88 pounds to take the single day record away from KVD! That was pretty awesome.
The guy can fish but he reminds me of Dustin Hoffman's character in Rainman. And that laugh could drive me to jump out of the boat and swim to shore.
12poundbass reply :
On 2/13/2017 at 12:09 AM, Gundog said:The guy can fish but he reminds me of Dustin Hoffman's character in Rainman. And that laugh could drive me to jump out of the boat and swim to shore.
I respect his fishing ability, but I agree he drives me up the wall!
Tim Kelly reply :
I find Martens very entertaining. Suggs on the other hand can swim home. All that puffing and panting and thanking the lord would wear on me very quickly.
N Florida Mike reply :
I tape mlf and watch it later so I can FF through the commercials.So I watched the one yesterday where Short pulled in front of Watson and caught the 5 pounder.I had never liked Watson up to that point,then found myself hoping he'd overtake Short.Watson made me laugh several times with his " pray for Suggs " campaign,and when he kept yelling at Suggs and he wouldn't respond.Also with his almost constant banter with the " score tracker update " man.H e was coming back hard there at the end with the 5 and 4 pounder.
I kind of like Shyrock too he kept It competetive.
RichF reply :
Martens def found the school to end all schools. It was awesome to see a bunch of nice fish caught off shore. That lake looks pretty awesome btw.
1simplemann reply :
On 2/12/2017 at 11:47 PM, MassBassin508 said:Martens 88 pounds to take the single day record away from KVD! That was pretty awesome.
Judging by the other competitors weights, A-Mart was on the right lake,on the right day to break the record. Evers had almost 60lbs and some others had 40+ lbs. Those weights would have won most any other MLF event. It'll be interesting how rest of the field does in their rounds.
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 2/13/2017 at 11:34 AM, 1simplemann said:Judging by the other competitors weights, A-Mart was on the right lake,on the right day to break the record. Evers had almost 60lbs and some others had 40+ lbs. Those weights would have won most any other MLF event. It'll be interesting how rest of the field does in their rounds.
I was waiting for Evers to say something. Catch 60 pounds in MLF, just enough to get stomped by 30 pounds, that's pretty rough.
A-A-Ron is a weird dude. I got to talk to him at an Elite event at Table Rock. I thought maybe he rambles like he does on TV because he's nervous, but he was the same in person, unless he was nervous talking to me for some reason. Thankfully it was cold out so his whole no showers or deodorant thing didn't overwhelm me.
1simplemann reply :
On 2/13/2017 at 2:51 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I was waiting for Evers to say something. Catch 60 pounds in MLF, just enough to get stomped by 30 pounds, that's pretty rough.
A-A-Ron is a weird dude. I got to talk to him at an Elite event at Table Rock. I thought maybe he rambles like he does on TV because he's nervous, but he was the same in person, unless he was nervous talking to me for some reason. Thankfully it was cold out so his whole no showers or deodorant thing didn't overwhelm me.
No showers,no deodorant? I knew he had some weird habits but those are new to to me. I just thought he was a health nut and liked to run. He obviously has the fishing credentials. Personally though, he seems to be a bit of a whiner though when things aren't going his way. Or at least that what I see on MLF. There are others that carry themselves better when they are catching them or not catching them.
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 2/13/2017 at 9:42 PM, 1simplemann said:No showers,no deodorant? I knew he had some weird habits but those are new to to me. I just thought he was a health nut and liked to run. He obviously has the fishing credentials. Personally though, he seems to be a bit of a whiner though when things aren't going his way. Or at least that what I see on MLF. There are others that carry themselves better when they are catching them or not catching them.
Mark Zona was talking about it on one of their shows together on Zona's Awesome Fishing Show. Sounded like he was smelling a little funky the day they were fishing together. Maybe it helps attract the fish 
12poundbass reply :
On 2/13/2017 at 9:42 PM, 1simplemann said:No showers,no deodorant? I knew he had some weird habits but those are new to to me. I just thought he was a health nut and liked to run. He obviously has the fishing credentials. Personally though, he seems to be a bit of a whiner though when things aren't going his way. Or at least that what I see on MLF. There are others that carry themselves better when they are catching them or not catching them.
His whining really annoys me too. I said before I respect his fishing ability but that's about it. To each their own I guess? ?
bowhunter63 reply :
I enjoy the show,Fun to watch.
1simplemann reply :
On 2/13/2017 at 10:22 PM, 12poundbass said:His whining really annoys me too. I said before I respect his fishing ability but that's about it. To each their own I guess? ?
My fishing partner and I were watching MLF together several times last year. We both had the same opinion as you. He whines when things aren't going his way. Most the of the other competitors carry themselves very well.
WRB reply :
On 2/14/2017 at 10:36 AM, 1simplemann said:My fishing partner and I were watching MLF together several times last year. We both had the same opinion as you. He whines when things aren't going his way. Most the of the other competitors carry themselves very well.
Temper tantrums like contestants breaking thier rods or throwing rods overboard is OK?
Keep in mind that Aaron has overcome some serious social issues, stuttering, speech inpediments, ability to stay focused and color blindness. Confidence to find bass has never been his short coming.
Tom
wdp reply :
That was an unbelievable day Martens had. I thought he was slaying em in period 1, until he started catching all the 3-4 pound smallies at the end of period 2 thru period 3. It was like a once in a lifetime kinda day.
Surely he takes showers occasionally. Can you imagine how he smells after running a marathon? He is kinda an odd fellow. And the whining thing, most of them do that to a certain extent - especially when they aren't catching anything but the score tracker keeps lighting up. Some are just way worse than others. Now ole Suggs seems to like whining even when he's catching em, lol.
Still the best fishing show on TV. Making the cut to advance to next round always builds up some drama at the end.
12poundbass reply :
On 2/14/2017 at 11:34 AM, WRB said:Temper tantrums like contestants breaking thier rods or throwing rods overboard is OK?
Keep in mind that Aaron has overcome some serious social issues, stuttering, speech inpediments, ability to stay focused and color blindness. Confidence to find bass has never been his short coming.
Tom
I'm willing to bet that most if not everyone on here would agree that Bobby Lane and Skeet Reese just to name a couple who break their rods out of anger is a very bad look. The conversation was about Aaron Martins and his little quirks. I think everybody has said that they respect the hell out of his fishing abilities. The little quirks just happened to be the topic of the day is all.
1simplemann reply :
On 2/14/2017 at 11:34 AM, WRB said:Temper tantrums like contestants breaking thier rods or throwing rods overboard is OK?
Keep in mind that Aaron has overcome some serious social issues, stuttering, speech inpediments, ability to stay focused and color blindness. Confidence to find bass has never been his short coming.
Tom
I said most not all. Breaking rods and throwing rods is not OK. A-Mart personal issues are his. We all have them. I don't dislike him. If i met him, I'm sure that I would like him just fine. The whining on TV bothers me. BL breaking his rod bothered me as well.
96ecss reply :
Whenever I see a pro break a rod out of anger or frustration, it makes me wonder if they would do that if they had to pay for that rod.
Dave
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