Mike Long is just too good! 2024
Mattlures reply :
Today the held a WON bass tournament on Lower Otay lake. This is the biggest tour out west.
Mike Long and his partner John Kerr came in with 38lbs and change. The second place team had 23lbs and change.
Mike and John beat them by 15lbs!!! It is almost pointless to fish against them. You are fishing for second place.
Supermat reply :
That's just awesome! Man am I glad I'mnot competing with that pair!
FIN-S-R reply :
We have 1 of those teams here in eastern oklahoma...The christie team. Jason christie is rollin...took my $$$ last week. I think he is about to go pro, so maybe we will get a break from him...until the next B/A comes along- he got 17th in the texoma open...he rules eufaula and grand....
frogtog reply :
Take him out of his comfort zone. If he is still good he might want to try going
pro. 8-)
burleytog reply :
QuoteTake him out of his comfort zone. If he is still good he might want to try goingpro. 8-)
That's the thing about it. We've got a lot of guys around here who own certain lakes. Put them on another lake and they barely get a limit.
That is one thing that amazes me about the professionals. They can pretty much go to any lake and catch fish. For most it takes a long time to learn a body of water. For others, one look at a map will tell them all they need to know.
Mattlures reply :
2 days before this tournament Mike went to lake he has only fished a couple times and caught the lake record. His Partner John Kerr Won his first Pro Tournament he ever fished. The US open(which is in another state)and beat all the big names for $100,000.00 so I guess they can still fish out of their comfort zone! Also I believe John will fish the FLW in 2008 while Mike has no intention of "turning pro" He said he job pays realy well and he gets plenty of time off to fish pluss he has to send his kids to collage. Mike Long is the single greatest bass angler that has ever fished.
frogtog reply :
Can you get him to come on the web so we can pick at him a little. ;D He
might be a learning tool for us.
Mattlures reply :
Mike and John have their own section in a forrum on another site. It is similar to how Doug Hannon has his section here. The site is San Diego based.
Also this pair wins the southern CA Won Division every year. They do not own a certain Lake, They own So Cal.
Mike has 6 bass lake records and a couple more for I believe trout and Crappie. He Also had 2 other bass lake records but they have recently been broken so he only has 6 current ones. He has 2 bass over 20lbs and around 50 over 15lbs
BTW he is humble and would never say or think he is the best, thats just my opinion.
jomatty reply :
i hope those guys were talking about the other guy mentioned by another poster and notmike or john when they were taking about owning a particular lake. thats great that kerr is gonna fish the FLW. cant wait to see how he does. always wondered how some of the trophy hunters would do on one of the tours and if they could adjust to having to target 3 lb fish
roadwarrior reply :
I guess it's all about the money.
I can't picture a trophy hunter getting any other pleasure from catching "tournament bass."
Wow! It's a monster!
14" and nearly a pound! Just four more and I can start fishing for a 3 lb kicker!
kbj3579 reply :
You know what really get's old, RW? Just about everytime I come on here and read in the tournament section, you have to post a negative comment about tournament fishing. I know your a moderator(which means this may get deleted) and you have to read all the posts so that you can edit them, but how about editing some of your comments. I'm not trying to start some big mess here, but like I said it really does get old. You don't have to like tournament fishing, you don't have to understand it, and the way I see it is you can state your opinions on the subject under the proper discussions about tournament fishing, but all the time and constantly bashing tournament fishing, come on man, lay off. I have my opinions about...well I'll stop there and edit myself. I really don't want to get kicked off here, and I really do enjoy this site, although I don't post that much. All I'm asking is for a little respect to the people that enjoy fishing, whether it's tournament fishing or getting a bucket of minnows, a case of beer and trying to fish for the biggest fish in the lake. Thanks for your consideration.
Cephkiller reply :
You know what's even more amazing is that some of these guys manage to win a tournament without a single Shimano. ;D
Mattlures reply :
RW I dont think its "all" about the money. By nature we are all competetive. Some will deny this but deep down we all are to some extent. You get glory by catching huge fish but you also get it (maybe even more) by beating your fellow angler. It also seems that tournament fishing and trophy hunting are starting to become similar. They are scheduling more tournaments durring the spawn and they are scheduling more big events out west. The use of swimbaits in tournaments is quickly becoming common place. This is the perfect oportunity for a guy like John to make a verry good living catching bass. I think the big orginazations realize that bigger bags are better for buisiness. It makes for much better TV which bring in money from sponsers and the big fish sell more merchandise. Think about it your watching a tournament on tv and see Aaron Martins catch an 9lb limit dropshotting Robo's. and next week you see Aaron catch a 40lb limit using a swimbait. Which bait do you want to buy?
I dont see John fishing for small tournament fish unless he has to. Either way I am sure its pretty exciting to win a tournament.
earthworm77 reply :
Matt, is that a 5 fish bag???...if it is, at almost an 8lb average, it ain't tournament squeakers we're talking about. When will Mike be writing a big bass only book? I've read Siemantels, Murphy's and Hannons, I'd love to read what a modern day big fish guy has to say. Also, it has been a year since the Weakley fish was caught...anybody see that fish out there this spring?
cart7t reply :
QuoteMike Long is the single greatest bass angler that has ever fished.
In your opinion of course.
The Unabasser reply :
I just finished reading Sowbelly by Monte Burke...I have on opinion on Mike Long but I will keep it to myself....
Mattlures reply :
Craig, yes 1 day limit of 5 fish. They also dumped two big fish first thing in the morning that were around 10lbs each.
Unabasser dont beleive every thing you read. Mike took Monte out to San V for his interview. The whole time they were out there Monte kept trying to get dirt on the other trophy hunters. He kept asking him questions about all the other guys. Mike ended the interview early and brought Monte back to the dock. Obviously Monte was not happy about this so he painted Mike unfavorably in his book. Monte also greatly exaggerated the fueds between all the guys. The day after Mac caught the 25.1 Mike Long and John kerr and Mac, Jed, and Mike W were all on the dock talking and Mike and John congratulated them. There were no hard feelings. I enjoyed reading Sowbelly and I think it is a great read but like I said Monte took it out on Mike L. He also mentioned how Mike gets to fish on clossed days. While this is true, it is only at one lake and he has to bring a member of the press or local celebrity. He would bring the Padre players out. Also every single one of his lake records were caught durring regular open days.
Catt yes it is my opinion but I am not alone in this.
Ky_Lake_Dude reply :
WOW!
Rob G. reply :
Interesting post to say the least.
fourbizz reply :
QuoteQuoteMike Long is the single greatest bass angler that has ever fished.In your opinion of course.
And mine too.
Low_Budget_Hooker reply :
QuoteQuoteMike Long is the single greatest bass angler that has ever fished.In your opinion of course.
Thanks for defending me Cart!! ;D ;D ;D
QuoteQuoteQuoteMike Long is the single greatest bass angler that has ever fished.In your opinion of course.
And mine too.
4bizz- please remove my number from your phone (j/K) ;D
were these 2 guys a few of the original big bass hunters in Cali (meaning is this a product of experience) or have they just stumbled on something special?
Mattlures reply :
Murphy and Crupi and kodata were the first but these guys have been doing this consistantly for the last 20 years
Fish Chris reply :
Going strictly by the numbers, nobody in the history of bass fishing has ever come close to the number of bass over 15 lbs that Mike Long has caught {something like the high 40's..... but hey, I've caught 4 ;-)}. Detractors will point to his inside connections.... his few days on closed water.... Or whatever.
But this is the way I see it;
You have guys out there like myself who just absolutely love to fish, and are blessed to be able do it a bunch, in great places, that hold a lot of big bass, and because of this, they {I} end up doing relatively well.
Then you have the one guy who really was born with a special, big-fish gift, Mike Long. It's a lot like Motzart on the piano, or Michealangelo with painting. Not to say that these guys didn't put an extraordinary amount of their lifes energies into their passions.... But I am saying that 99.9999% of the populous could play a piano, paint, or fish for trophy bass, their entire lives {and even be completely passionate about it}, and still never get close to the accomplishments that these guys have achieved.
Oh hey Matt, I know this is not normal, but I'm really not out to do better than anybody, except "Fish Chris". For myself, the competition is strictly between me and the fish. My goal now is to catch 100 fish over 10 lbs.... and of course to stick a new PB :-) .....and it would be nice to stick a few more 15's in the mean time. But as you see, these goals have nothing to do with anyone else.
Peace,
Fish
d-camarena reply :
Interesting thread from back in the day
J Francho reply :
On 6/26/2019 at 11:33 PM, d-camarena said:Interesting thread from back in the day
I'll say. It really WAS about the money.
punch reply :
Hah, this is great!
Team9nine reply :
Keep digging - there are some other great threads like this one to be found ????
Choporoz reply :
On 3/23/2007 at 2:51 AM, FIN-S-R said:We have 1 of those teams here in eastern oklahoma...The christie team. Jason christie is rollin...took my $$$ last week. I think he is about to go pro, so maybe we will get a break from him...until the next B/A comes along- he got 17th in the texoma open...he rules eufaula and grand....
I'll continue to steer clear of the Mike Long discussions....but I thought this post was full of hindsight awesomeness
Jason Christie
B.A.S.S. STATS
Career earnings: $1,005,408
Number of Tournaments won: 5
Number of Top-10 tournament finishes: 18
BASSMaster Classic Appearances: 5 (2013-2017)
FLW STATS
Career earnings: $ 1,042,403
Number of tournaments won: 10
Number of Top-10 tournament finishes: 38
Forrest Wood Cup Appearances: 6
Years as FLW Pro: 7
DSTN reply :
Haha @Choporoz, I wa just thinking the same thing. Whatever happened to that Christie guy, wonder if it's true he could only win at Grand...
Hindsight is 20/20 but this thread has aged...uniquely.
d-camarena reply :
Thats why i brought this old thread back lol, its full of win
JLewis134 reply :
Lol. Yall are savage ????
Is there any other guys that were associated with Long? Suspected of cheating possibly?
NorcalBassin reply :
Excellent reboot. Be awesome if we could get @Mattlures @Supermat and @Fish Chris to come back for a cameo appearance to give their thoughts.
d-camarena reply :
For real, ive tried to contact fish chris a couple times with no luck. Seems like he actually quit fishing, I saw some youtube videos of him doing car audio or something like that.
It would be awesome if some of the old schooler would give their opinion on this
BassThumb reply :
Fish Chris was one of my favorite posters back in the day.
J Francho reply :
On 6/27/2019 at 12:55 PM, BassThumb said:Fish Chris was one of my favorite posters back in the day.
Yep, we all miss him too. Such a genuine dude.
jbsoonerfan reply :
On 6/27/2019 at 12:57 PM, J Francho said:Yep, we all miss him too. Such a genuine dude.
And a catcher of giant bass as well.
Dwight Hottle reply :
On 6/27/2019 at 10:41 AM, NorcalBassin said:Excellent reboot. Be awesome if we could get @Mattlures @Supermat and @Fish Chris to come back for a cameo appearance to give their thoughts.
Yes it would They were all such staunch supporters of Mike Long.
WRB reply :
Mike Long had a big following of trophy bass anglers and John Kerr was legitimate making it easy to get duped.
Long would go around at the Bass A Thon and collect custom made swimbaits from several of the top lure makers they all believed he was the top trophy bass angler.
The wheels started to come off in 2014.
Tom
Russ E reply :
He must be popular out west. I have never heard of him until this all came along.
The negative publicity is getting him attention throughout the bass fishing community.
After all of this attention, I suppose he will write his memoirs and make a lot of money from that.
Harold Scoggins reply :
What do you do when you're "Branded."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXlUS5-ag_g
MN Fisher reply :
On 6/30/2019 at 6:45 AM, Harold Scoggins said:What do you do when you're "Branded."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXlUS5-ag_g
There's a bit of a difference between Mikey and Capt. McCord...the Capt. was innocent.
(Ya, I watched that series when I was a kid)
Bassin' Brad reply :
On 3/18/2007 at 1:36 PM, Mattlures said:It is almost pointless to fish against them.
Yes, it is pointless to fish against a cheater.
On 3/31/2007 at 2:50 PM, Mattlures said:2 days before this tournament Mike went to lake he has only fished a couple times and caught the lake record.
Mike Long is the single greatest bass angler that has ever fished.
Lake records come easy for the "single greatest bass anglers that has ever fished" smh
Thanks for bringing this old thread up!
d-camarena reply :
On 6/30/2019 at 12:13 AM, Russ E said:He must be popular out west. I have never heard of him until this all came along.
The negative publicity is getting him attention throughout the bass fishing community.
After all of this attention, I suppose he will write his memoirs and make a lot of money from that.
Not just out west, im live in austin but i moved here from mexico and ive read about him since i was still in mexico.
J Francho reply :
On 6/30/2019 at 6:45 AM, Harold Scoggins said:What do you do when you're "Branded."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXlUS5-ag_g
Chuck Connors is one of 13 athletes ever to play both baseball and basketball at the highest pro levels. He was also in one of my all time favorite TV shows, The Rifleman.
WRB reply :
It is illegal to intentially snag fish in California, Michigan and New York, possibly a few other states. So everyone who see's the video with Long intentionally trying to snag bass thinking it's unsportsman like, it is IMO but it's not uncommon practice in most states.
Dottie the 25.1 lb LMB isn't the world record bass because she was snagged in California's lake Dixon with a white jig on top of the head and observers blew the whistle on the anglers. Trap rigged lures with treble hooks are not illegal in California if only 3 hooks are used, hooking any fish outside it's mouth is illegal anytime.
Tom
Choporoz reply :
Coincidentally apropos of next to nothing, one of the competitors in my local yak club got busted last week, too. Not exactly certain, but it sounds like he was doing the digital age version of moving fish -- I think he was catching them outside tourny waters (or tourny times) and messing with the digital photo meta data to make it look like he was in compliance. Guy's going to have trouble getting near another tournament around here for years.
13 pounder reply :
Ya
what about the night derby at San V when Mike rolled in right at time to launch and left three hours early weighing in
3 fish for 24 pounds
I'm sure many of y'all were there!
flyfisher reply :
On 7/2/2019 at 4:29 AM, Choporoz said:Coincidentally apropos of next to nothing, one of the competitors in my local yak club got busted last week, too. Not exactly certain, but it sounds like he was doing the digital age version of moving fish -- I think he was catching them outside tourny waters (or tourny times) and messing with the digital photo meta data to make it look like he was in compliance. Guy's going to have trouble getting near another tournament around here for years.
yup i saw that on social media. Dude seemed like he was also changing fish ID tags as well and using other people's fish. It is part of the reason i don't do tournaments but I am kind of itching to do them for some reason....
fishwizzard reply :
On 7/2/2019 at 4:29 AM, Choporoz said:I think he was catching them outside tourny waters (or tourny times) and messing with the digital photo meta data to make it look like he was in compliance.
Nothing suspicious here guys, I always bring my laptop out in the yak with me.....
I had assumed that kayak tournaments gave out an identifier right before launch time to help with stuff like this?
Choporoz reply :
On 7/2/2019 at 8:57 PM, fishwizzard said:
I had assumed that kayak tournaments gave out an identifier right before launch time to help with stuff like this?
They do. Apparently there was some photochopping going on, too.
fishwizzard reply :
On 7/2/2019 at 9:00 PM, Choporoz said:They do. Apparently there was some photochopping going on, too.
Hah, oh man. I guess if you have an off-site accomplice it would be super easy to get up to all sorts of nonsese.
WVU-SCPA reply :
I was naive last week to believe all the stuff I read on here would happen in the local tournaments I fish. However last Friday some pictures of milk crates filled with a limit of bass submerged below a turtle platform hit social media. I'm really hoping it was a hoax, as the person put it on blast before contacting the authorities.
I can't comprehend the mindset it takes to cheat, let alone for $1000.
jbsoonerfan reply :
On 7/2/2019 at 10:18 PM, WVU-SCPA said:I was naive last week to believe all the stuff I read on here would happen in the local tournaments I fish. However last Friday some pictures of milk crates filled with a limit of bass submerged below a turtle platform hit social media. I'm really hoping it was a hoax, as the person put it on blast before contacting the authorities.
I can't comprehend the mindset it takes to cheat, let alone for $1000.
For some people it isn't even about the money, the simply want people to think they are a great angler. Obviously in this case, I think it was the money first, then the fame.
BassNJake reply :
On 7/2/2019 at 4:29 AM, Choporoz said:Coincidentally apropos of next to nothing, one of the competitors in my local yak club got busted last week, too. Not exactly certain, but it sounds like he was doing the digital age version of moving fish -- I think he was catching them outside tourny waters (or tourny times) and messing with the digital photo meta data to make it look like he was in compliance. Guy's going to have trouble getting near another tournament around here for years.
Unfortunately, cheaters gonna cheat even moving to the digital age
N Florida Mike reply :
I’ve known a lot of fishermen and never known any that would snag bass. And some of those I knew would think nothing about poaching a ‘gator or deer or two to feed their families back in the day. Not saying that was completely right but I understood it at least.
But snagging bass? they wouldn’t even do that to put meat on the table!! It’s kind of like the unpardonable sin of all outdoor pursuits.
ntagger57 reply :
On 6/27/2019 at 10:41 AM, NorcalBassin said:Excellent reboot. Be awesome if we could get @Mattlures @Supermat and @Fish Chris to come back for a cameo appearance to give their thoughts.
Wouldn't that be golden buhahahaha ????????
WRB reply :
On 7/3/2019 at 9:29 AM, N Florida Mike said:I’ve known a lot of fishermen and never known any that would snag bass. And some of those I knew would think nothing about poaching a ‘gator or deer or two to feed their families back in the day. Not saying that was completely right but I understood it at least.
But snagging bass? they wouldn’t even do that to put meat on the table!! It’s kind of like the unpardonable sin of all outdoor pursuits.
Honor among thieves....you all could use a few more gator poachers.
Tom
N Florida Mike reply :
Yeah, but they’d get caught nowadays with all the technology.
We have limited gator hunts but they’re more for rich folks that want the experience, not for making money anymore. The novices have to pay a licensed hunter to go with them so the hunters make a little.
The father in law of a old friend runs a seafood market and sells gator tail he hunts legally but he’s the only one I know of doing it anymore around here. Not at all like Louisiana.
Itll be like this until enough of the suburban folks dogs get ate. Then they might open it up some for more numbers for less $ .
reelfast reply :
There are cheats in every sport: Barry Bonds, Lance Armstrong, Marion Jones etc. Mike Long is just like them: another competitor with zero integrity. ????♂️
islandbass reply :
On 7/2/2019 at 4:17 AM, WRB said:It is illegal to intentially snag fish in California, Michigan and New York, possibly a few other states. So everyone who see's the video with Long intentionally trying to snag bass thinking it's unsportsman like, it is IMO but it's not uncommon practice in most states.
Dottie the 25.1 lb LMB isn't the world record bass because she was snagged in California's lake Dixon with a white jig on top of the head and observers blew the whistle on the anglers. Trap rigged lures with treble hooks are not illegal in California if only 3 hooks are used, hooking any fish outside it's mouth is illegal anytime.
Tom
You can add WA state to that list. When I saw that hidden footage of him in action,I knew exactly what was going on. I am not a snagger but I’ve seen enough ****** do it for salmon. Boils my blood.
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