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Elites= Athletes? 2024


fishing user avatarK.Fox reply : 

I have read many articles referencing the Elites as athletes. I have also heard Elites say they are athletes. I love competing in bass tournaments and love watching the Elites compete, but I would not call them athletes in any sense of the word. Is it just because they competing that they are called athletes or are they doing something that is athletic that I am not aware of? I understand that these guys can kill a fly off the wall with a cast, but aside from that what makes them athletic? Why are they called athletes? It kinda of bothers me.


fishing user avatar7mm-08 reply : 

I would have to agree with you.   They have unreal skills and talent but I would not consider them athletes.


fishing user avataredbassmaster reply : 

I have wondered this for years. Why pro anglers are considered athletes. To me its the same as calling a golfer an athlete. Some would disagree. I do think this though, to be an athlete you have to be in good shape. I have seen some pro anglers in shape...of a beach ball.


fishing user avatarStasher1 reply : 

Imho, they're no more than skilled workers, much like carpenters or tailors.

They have managed to make a living doing what many would consider a hobby. If my wife made a living competing in knitting contests, would that make her an athlete?


fishing user avatarK.Fox reply : 

lol....

Imho, they're no more than skilled workers, much like carpenters or tailors.

X2..

Blue collar workers deal with every type of weather, and the same back pain you get from standing on bass boat all day fishing you get as a blue collar worker. Casting over and over again could be compared to a carpenter hammering nail after nail.


fishing user avatarDaniel My Brother reply : 

Depends, do you consider fishing a sport? An athlete is someone who trains to compete in a sport, so...


fishing user avatarStasher1 reply : 
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Depends, do you consider fishing a sport? An athlete is someone who trains to compete in a sport, so...

Nope. Do you consider throwing darts a sport? Some people make a living doing it, but I definitely wouldn't call them athletes.


fishing user avatarGrey Wolf reply : 

They need some atheltic ability but I doubt if you can put them in the same catagory with football , basketball , hockey , or even baseball players.


fishing user avatarFlukeman reply : 

I think some are athletic, but do not consider them athletes. I put them in that category with golfers, the DH and first baseman in baseball, prof dart players, and poker players. They all compete, may be able to run a mile, or lift weights, but are not athletes.

But I must say it doesn't bother me what people call them, what would bother me... is if I could not catch fish  ;D


fishing user avatarhookingem reply : 

Athletes is the wrong description IMO expert anglers is more accurate. ;)


fishing user avatarGTrombly reply : 

I wonder what Woo Daves 40 time is?


fishing user avatarK.Fox reply : 

"expert anglers " works for me...

Daves 40... LOL


fishing user avatarlmoore reply : 

The better anglers definitely have some atheletic ability.  I'd love to see somebody with no coordination attempt a skip cast, even after practicing for a while.  To that extent, I would agree that most of them are athletes.  However, I wouldn't say that just because they fish the Elite series, they are automatically athletes.


fishing user avatarcentral.PA.bass reply : 
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Athletes is the wrong description IMO expert anglers is more accurate. ;)

Agreed!


fishing user avatarbigbassctchr101 reply : 

I think they are athletes. I think that anyone that can bare 8 hours a day for 4 days of standing, casting, driving, then head back out to go do it again the next week is an athlete. Look at Vandam or Skeet and watch how many pounds they drop from the beginning til the end of the season. It takes a toll on your body, mentally and physically. But, if you only consider a sport something that you have to run, jump, and make physical contact with and don't consider bowling, golfing, or nascar a sport then I guess they wouldn't be considered athletes in your eyes. But don't tell that to the guys that make the money playing these SPORTS! ;D ;)


fishing user avatarIma Bass Ninja reply : 

Sport is defined as:

sport

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noun

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an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.

Define Athlete:

ath·lete

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a person trained or gifted in exercises or contests involving physical agility, stamina, or strength; a participant in a sport, exercise, or game requiring physical skill.

If you go by definitions then a professional fisherman is an Athlete. He is trained (and most are gifted) in an activity requiring skill, therefore he is an athlete.


fishing user avatardeadeye32. reply : 

I know a bunch of people who are athletes (play a sport), but are not athletic.  Then there are athletic people who can compete in about any sport they wish (Lebron James, Julius Peppers).  When I played baseball, we had pitchers that could throw 90mph but good lord their jump shot was terrible. lol


fishing user avatarboneil reply : 
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I have wondered this for years. Why pro anglers are considered athletes. To me its the same as calling a golfer an athlete. Some would disagree. I do think this though, to be an athlete you have to be in good shape. I have seen some pro anglers in shape...of a beach ball.

I don't think physical shape should matter.  Look at lineman,   and some baseball players have a few extra pounds.

imho anglers are athletes.  I've fished tournaments and know that several days of 12 hr practice fishing and then 3 to 4 days of actual tournament time is exhausting physically and mentally.


fishing user avatarLund Explorer reply : 
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I have wondered this for years. Why pro anglers are considered athletes. To me its the same as calling a golfer an athlete. Some would disagree. I do think this though, to be an athlete you have to be in good shape. I have seen some pro anglers in shape...of a beach ball.

I don't think physical shape should matter. Look at lineman, and some baseball players have a few extra pounds.

imho anglers are athletes. I've fished tournaments and know that several days of 12 hr practice fishing and then 3 to 4 days of actual tournament time is exhausting physically and mentally.

X-2....

Football players in shape?  William "The Fridge" Perry!

Nuff said.


fishing user avatarBass Dude reply : 
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Athletes is the wrong description IMO expert anglers is more accurate. ;)

I disagree...they are expert bass fisherman.  To me an expert angler catches anything, anywhere, anytime....i.e.  Larry Dahlberg.


fishing user avatarSirSnookalot reply : 

Athletes or sport........not in my opinion.

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I disagree...they are expert bass fisherman. To me an expert angler catches anything, anywhere, anytime....i.e. Larry Dahlberg.

A good angler can catch any kind of fish, anytime, any place with any equipment, no reason a good bassman can't do the same....  fish are fish.


fishing user avatarmikesjet reply : 

And to be an "athlete" you also have to have some kind of scandal, drugs or be paid in the tens of millions.


fishing user avatarJ_Pearson reply : 
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Sport is defined as:

sport

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noun

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an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.

Define Athlete:

ath·lete

[ch8194] [ch8194]/[ch712]æ[ch952]lit/ Show Spelled[ath-leet] Show IPA

noun

a person trained or gifted in exercises or contests involving physical agility, stamina, or strength; a participant in a sport, exercise, or game requiring physical skill.

If you go by definitions then a professional fisherman is an Athlete. He is trained (and most are gifted) in an activity requiring skill, therefore he is an athlete.

I'd say this pair of definitions speaks for itself. Like many have been saying, there are "athletes" that aren't necessarily "fit," but they are athletes or participants in a "sport" all the same.

Being very involved in wrestling for much of my life, the term "athletic" definitely has different standards for different individuals. I most certainly believe the more fit someone is the greater their individual opportunity is to be competitive in a fishing tournament. The relationship between psychological functioning and physiological capacity is positive. If someone can better handle physical stressors such as excessive heat or fatigue while still maintaining a high level of mental focus, I cannot see how it'd be argued that they wouldn't be more successful than otherwise at such a high tournament level.

All in all, the argument of "who's an athlete?" and "is this or that called a sport?" is continuous and goes well beyond competitive fishing.

However, when one considers the definition of the term "sport" and "athlete," I believe it would be terminologically correct to label those anglers as athletes.

JP


fishing user avatarfishermantony reply : 
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I wonder what Woo Daves 40 time is?

4.29...........at least this is what he was rumored to have done at the 1970 combine. ;)


fishing user avatarGTrombly reply : 
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I wonder what Woo Daves 40 time is?

4.29...........at least this is what he was rumored to have done at the 1970 combine. ;)

Crazy you picked that number. It's my birthday.


fishing user avatarsenile1 reply : 

It's all a semantic argument.  We all agree on the skills and the fatigue involved in a four day tournament which doesn't compare to some sports requiring a much higher level of physical conditioning.  By book definition, they are athletes.  Otherwise, what difference does it make?  They fish for bass and they are highly skilled at it.  That about covers it.  Define them as you wish.


fishing user avatarGTrombly reply : 

I think the argument that they stand for 8 hours for so many days is ridiculous. It is basically describing any job like landscaping or construction where people are standing all day 5+ days a week all year long. My wife teaches kindergarten and she has to stand and teach all day, I don't think that makes her an athlete.


fishing user avatarbigbassctchr101 reply : 

Standing and balancing on one foot while the other is bouncing on the trolling motor with one hand on the rod and the net in the other at the same time swooping for a fish all while keeping boat position, tight line, and a 7lb fish in the net.....  Yep....no athletic tendencies at all   ;D    ;)


fishing user avatarK.Fox reply : 
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Standing and balancing on one foot while the other is bouncing on the trolling motor with one hand on the rod and the net in the other at the same time swooping for a fish all while keeping boat position, tight line, and a 7lb fish in the net..... Yep....no athletic tendencies at all ;D ;)

Iron workers balance on 6inch-wide beams thousands of feet about the ground working with their hands at the same time.  Athlete?   Construction workers working 10hr days in the hot sun then driving home. Athlete?

Football linemen? 300lb Warren Sapp ran a 40...4.69 Athlete!


fishing user avatarHot Rod reply : 
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Standing and balancing on one foot while the other is bouncing on the trolling motor with one hand on the rod and the net in the other at the same time swooping for a fish all while keeping boat position, tight line, and a 7lb fish in the net..... Yep....no athletic tendencies at all ;D ;)

Iron workers balance on 6inch-wide beams thousands of feet about the ground working with their hands at the same time. Athlete? Construction workers working 10hr days in the hot sun then driving home. Athlete?

Football linemen? 300lb Warren Sapp ran a 40...4.69 Athlete!

No, iron workers nor anyother kind of worker are not atheletes unless they are involved in a competition.  The definition of athelete involves competition.  They aren't competing with a crew the next block over to see who finishes their skyscrapper first.  Its comparing apples to oranges.

Fish in a tournament 8 hours in 3'+ waves off-shore, running a trolling motor staring down at a graph while trying to keep from being ejected from the boat.  That takes incredible stamina, strength and coordination.  Athelete!


fishing user avatarDalton Tam reply : 
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Sport is defined as:

sport

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noun

1.

an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.

Define Athlete:

ath·lete

[ch8194] [ch8194]/[ch712]æ[ch952]lit/ Show Spelled[ath-leet] Show IPA

noun

a person trained or gifted in exercises or contests involving physical agility, stamina, or strength; a participant in a sport, exercise, or game requiring physical skill.

If you go by definitions then a professional fisherman is an Athlete. He is trained (and most are gifted) in an activity requiring skill, therefore he is an athlete.

I'd say this pair of definitions speaks for itself. Like many have been saying, there are "athletes" that aren't necessarily "fit," but they are athletes or participants in a "sport" all the same.

Being very involved in wrestling for much of my life, the term "athletic" definitely has different standards for different individuals. I most certainly believe the more fit someone is the greater their individual opportunity is to be competitive in a fishing tournament. The relationship between psychological functioning and physiological capacity is positive. If someone can better handle physical stressors such as excessive heat or fatigue while still maintaining a high level of mental focus, I cannot see how it'd be argued that they wouldn't be more successful than otherwise at such a high tournament level.

All in all, the argument of "who's an athlete?" and "is this or that called a sport?" is continuous and goes well beyond competitive fishing.

However, when one considers the definition of the term "sport" and "athlete," I believe it would be terminologically correct to label those anglers as athletes.

JP

Agreed.....


fishing user avatarww2farmer reply : 

If they are  "athletes" then so am I  ;D ;D ;D

Is it really an athletic sport if you can do it while smoking a ciggerette or eating a hamburger? I never saw Jordon dunk with a Newport dangling from his lips.

I might not be able to out fish them, but I am challenging Kenyon Hill, Mark Davis, and John Murry to a race, last guy to not stop and suck wind wins.  ;D


fishing user avatarMd reply : 

In Japan, the baseball players go into the clubhouse and smoke between innings. The NY Jets star quarterback Mark Sanchez was eating hotdogs on the sidelines last year during a game. What defines an athlete? I'm not sure. But I will tell you this, sign up for a FLW or BASS three day event and make the cut, fish all three days after practicing for a few days from light til dark and you will gain a TON of respect for what these guys do. Trust me.  ;)


fishing user avatarJoePhish reply : 

I think that if you do a specific exercise in order to perform at a higher level during a competition then you are an athlete.


fishing user avatarMd reply : 
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I think that if you do a specific exercise in order to perform at a higher level during a competition then you are an athlete.

So competitive eaters are athletes?


fishing user avatarDalton Tam reply : 
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I think that if you do a specific exercise in order to perform at a higher level during a competition then you are an athlete.

So competitive eaters are athletes?

Heck Yea! I'm an athlete!


fishing user avatarJoePhish reply : 
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I think that if you do a specific exercise in order to perform at a higher level during a competition then you are an athlete.

So competitive eaters are athletes?

If they do sit-ups or some other exercise that helps them eat faster then yes.

Do any of the Elites have a traning regimen that is designed specifically for fishing?

...and I'm not talking about the age old fishing exercise of 12 ounce curls


fishing user avatarMd reply : 
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I think that if you do a specific exercise in order to perform at a higher level during a competition then you are an athlete.

So competitive eaters are athletes?

If they do sit-ups or some other exercise that helps them eat faster then yes.

Do any of the Elites have a traning regimen that is designed specifically for fishing?

...and I'm not talking about the age old fishing exercise of 12 ounce curls

As a matter of fact, yes some do. Talk to Dave Wolak, John Crews or Gerald Swindle and ask out thier workout regimen has factored into their fishing. ;)


fishing user avatarbigbassctchr101 reply : 
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I think that if you do a specific exercise in order to perform at a higher level during a competition then you are an athlete.

So competitive eaters are athletes?

If they do sit-ups or some other exercise that helps them eat faster then yes.

Do any of the Elites have a traning regimen that is designed specifically for fishing?

...and I'm not talking about the age old fishing exercise of 12 ounce curls

As a matter of fact, yes some do. Talk to Dave Wolak, John Crews or Gerald Swindle and ask out thier workout regimen has factored into their fishing. ;)

Or SEVERAL others...  Or just read some FLW and BASS magazines....  They talked about eating good, working out, physical and mental excercises.  Even different casting techniques and strength band excercises to keep their casting and arms in shape. 


fishing user avatarCaptain Obvious reply : 

If you think that bass fishing is to easy on the physical side, just ask the G-man or Bryon Velvick about their injury's, they might tell you different.

Yep these guys are athletes


fishing user avatarK.Fox reply : 

People compete for positions in the work place all the time..

"But I will tell you this, sign up for a FLW or BASS three day event and make the cut, fish all three days after practicing for a few days from light til dark and you will gain a TON of respect for what these guys do. Trust me." ---- I have!

 

  I know all about 3ft waves trying to keep your balance while looking at a screen. Doesn't make you an athlete. 

   Eating Regiments? KVD eats his kids cookies while winning $500,000.00 events.

Training regiments? Just because you are healthy and have a gym routine doesn't mean you are an athlete.

I know all about back pain while fishing for days, from the physical side.  I also know all about back pain from working highway construction.   


fishing user avatarMd reply : 
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People compete for positions in the work place all the time..

"But I will tell you this, sign up for a FLW or BASS three day event and make the cut, fish all three days after practicing for a few days from light til dark and you will gain a TON of respect for what these guys do. Trust me." ---- I have!

I know all about 3ft waves trying to keep your balance while looking at a screen. Doesn't make you an athlete.

Eating Regiments? KVD eats his kids cookies while winning $500,000.00 events.

Training regiments? Just because you are healthy and have a gym routine doesn't mean you are an athlete.

I know all about back pain while fishing for days, from the physical side. I also know all about back pain from working highway construction.

You don't think the Yankees $161 million dollar ace pitcher doesn't eat cookies between innings?

Can he skip a jig 30 feet up under a dock with a 6 inch opening like Brian Thrift? No way. Can Thrift throw a 95 mph fastball. No way.

Are golfers athletes? John Daly won the British Open while he was drunk and smoking between holes.

This argument can go on forever. Competitive fishing is what it is...why try to put these guys in a class? You can't compare it to anything else because it is so specialized.

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fishing user avatarDan: reply : 
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Sport is defined as:

sport

[ch8194] [ch8194]/sp[ch596]rt, spo[ch650]rt/ Show Spelled[spawrt, spohrt] Show IPA

noun

1.

an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.

Define Athlete:

ath·lete

[ch8194] [ch8194]/[ch712]æ[ch952]lit/ Show Spelled[ath-leet] Show IPA

noun

a person trained or gifted in exercises or contests involving physical agility, stamina, or strength; a participant in a sport, exercise, or game requiring physical skill.

If you go by definitions then a professional fisherman is an Athlete. He is trained (and most are gifted) in an activity requiring skill, therefore he is an athlete.

I disagree. The definition of athlete requires "physical agility, stamina, or strength" or "physical skill" not just "skill." Fishing doesn't have that.

I don't get what you guys are saying about being on a boat, operating a trolling motor, etc as being difficult exercise. If you think that's difficult then you are out of shape.

Just because something requires God given talent, competitiveness, dedication, practice, hard work, or experience DOES NOT CONCLUSIVELY MAKE IT A SPORT. There are plenty of what I categorize as "activities" that require a combination or all of those things ie: singing in a choir. I don't respect someone who is successful at what I deem as "activities" any less than I respect athletes--I just put them in different categories.


fishing user avatarIma Bass Ninja reply : 
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Sport is defined as:

sport

[ch8194] [ch8194]/sp[ch596]rt, spo[ch650]rt/ Show Spelled[spawrt, spohrt] Show IPA

noun

1.

an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.

Define Athlete:

ath·lete

[ch8194] [ch8194]/[ch712]æ[ch952]lit/ Show Spelled[ath-leet] Show IPA

noun

a person trained or gifted in exercises or contests involving physical agility, stamina, or strength; a participant in a sport, exercise, or game requiring physical skill.

If you go by definitions then a professional fisherman is an Athlete. He is trained (and most are gifted) in an activity requiring skill, therefore he is an athlete.

I disagree. The definition of athlete requires "physical agility, stamina, or strength" or "physical skill" not just "skill." Fishing doesn't have that.

I don't get what you guys are saying about being on a boat, operating a trolling motor, etc as being difficult exercise. If you think that's difficult then you are out of shape.

Just because something requires God given talent, competitiveness, dedication, practice, hard work, or experience DOES NOT CONCLUSIVELY MAKE IT A SPORT. There are plenty of what I categorize as "activities" that require a combination or all of those things ie: singing in a choir. I don't respect someone who is successful at what I deem as "activities" any less than I respect athletes--I just put them in different categories.

The fact that FISHING is mentioned in the definition of sport,CONCLUSIVELY makes it a sport, and ATHLETE by definition is a participant in a sport, then, by definition, a professional fisherman is an ATHLETE.


fishing user avatarbigbassctchr101 reply : 

For all the guys that don't consider fishing a sport?  If a participant in a fishing event (sport) is not an athlete,  then what exactly is an athlete to you?  My son plays baseball...he's 5, he plays in the dirt more than looking at the ball.  But, he can throw a spinning rod and catch fish by himself.  But, he's only an athlete because he plays baseball, right?   Sounds like only baseball, football, basketball, etc are only considered "sports" in which "athletes" compete.  If you disagree that fishing is a sport, fine, thats your right. But I would also expect you to think that bowling, golf, nascar, shooting, ping pong, etc. etc. etc. is also NOT A SPORT.  Because there is no more physical god gifted talent in them sports as there is in any other. Doesn't really matter to me though,  I'm an athelete!  I was on the basketball team! I kept the bench warm   ;)


fishing user avatarSirSnookalot reply : 

As far as I'm concerned fishing is an activity whether it be competitive or recreational. It's no more demanding on the body than being a bank teller or market  cashier.  Many of those people work injured as well, bad backs, carpal tunnel not to mention the stress they deal with for a whole lot less $$.  Who is to say the injuries some have are even due to fishing, I wake up with a different ache and pain everyday and I fish 7 days a week too, I must be an athlete..........HARDLY .

I can't be convinced otherwise, I think the aforementioned definition needs revision.


fishing user avatarK.Fox reply : 

"You don't think the Yankees $161 million dollar ace pitcher doesn't eat cookies between innings?

Can he skip a jig 30 feet up under a dock with a 6 inch opening like Brian Thrift? No way. Can Thrift throw a 95 mph fastball. No way."

Exactly my point. CC has a better chance in his life of skipping a jig 30ft under a dock with a 6in opening then Thrift ever has throwing a ball 95mph.... The power at which CC throws can not be compared to skipping or any form of casting. With enough practice anyone can skip a jig with accuracy. You can practice every day for the rest of your life you are never throwing a baseball 95mph to a 6inch glove.

bowling, golf, nascar, shooting, ping pong, etc, are for non athletic people that like to compete.

At 5yrs old you can't tell if your son is an athlete. If it turns out he is not, he can always fish. Competitively.


fishing user avatarIma Bass Ninja reply : 
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"You don't think the Yankees $161 million dollar ace pitcher doesn't eat cookies between innings?

Can he skip a jig 30 feet up under a dock with a 6 inch opening like Brian Thrift? No way. Can Thrift throw a 95 mph fastball. No way."

Exactly my point. CC has a better chance in his life of skipping a jig 30ft under a dock with a 6in opening then Thrift ever has throwing a ball 95mph.... The power at which CC throws can not be compared to skipping or any form of casting. With enough practice anyone can skip a jig with accuracy. You can practice every day for the rest of your life you are never throwing a baseball 95mph to a 6inch glove.

bowling, golf, nascar, shooting, ping pong, etc, are for non athletic people that like to compete.

At 5yrs old you can't tell if your son is an athlete. If it turns out he is not, he can always fish. Competitively.

So anyone in baseball that can't throw a 95 mph fastball isn't an athelete?????...Dang sorry reggie jackson, sorry Bo Jackson, sorry to the other hundreds of baseball players y'all can't consider yourself an athlete ::) ::) ::)...How bout this, I've given a definition of athlete and sport that backs up my stance on the subject, how bout some of the nay sayers back up their opinion with some sort of fact. Otherwise its just an opinion..


fishing user avatarRangerphil reply : 

With enough practice anyone can skip a jig with accuracy. You can practice every day for the rest of your life you are never throwing a baseball 95mph to a 6inch glove.

Why? Do you think babies are born as pitchers or do they practice from a young age to learn how to pitch?

I think if you are dedicated and put in enough time, heart, and practice you can do anything! What about Rudy from ND?


fishing user avatarbigbassctchr101 reply : 
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"You don't think the Yankees $161 million dollar ace pitcher doesn't eat cookies between innings?

Can he skip a jig 30 feet up under a dock with a 6 inch opening like Brian Thrift? No way. Can Thrift throw a 95 mph fastball. No way."

Exactly my point. CC has a better chance in his life of skipping a jig 30ft under a dock with a 6in opening then Thrift ever has throwing a ball 95mph.... The power at which CC throws can not be compared to skipping or any form of casting. With enough practice anyone can skip a jig with accuracy. You can practice every day for the rest of your life you are never throwing a baseball 95mph to a 6inch glove.

bowling, golf, nascar, shooting, ping pong, etc, are for non athletic people that like to compete.

At 5yrs old you can't tell if your son is an athlete. If it turns out he is not, he can always fish. Competitively.

ANYONE can pitch....ANYONE can quarterback....ANYONE can cast or flip.... I never said they were super human. Or that the other sports are not sports. I just said that fishing was. Because just like anything else, it takes practice for them to get good enough to compete at that level. How bout this....

Practice as much as possible...

Study your opponent...

Stay mentally prepared...

Don't give up when your behind...

Learn every angle these is to know...

Practice sportsmanship...

Endurance/ Flexability / Mental Control / Discipline

The 4 C's:

Concentration - ability to maintain focus

Confidence - believe in one's abilities

Control - ability to maintain emotional control regardless of distraction

Commitment - ability to continue working to agreed goals

If you can tell me which one of these are qualities of a "real sport" and which of them include all sports, including fishing, then I'll agree with you.

"bowling, golf, nascar, shooting, ping pong, etc, are for non athletic people that like to compete. "

So, this is just for the people that didn't want to practice and play a real sport?

I'm going to agree with Bass Ninja on the definition... But, everyone is intitled to their own opinion, which I will respect. But won't have to agree with.


fishing user avatarww2farmer reply : 

I think people who can't do anything athleticly are saying fisherman are althetes so they can call themselves athletes. I can fish hard for 10+ hours a day in 90 degree heat for a week straight, and be tired at the end of each day. Does that mean I just acomplished some grueling feat of sport? No. It means I am tired at the end of a log day of fishing............who would have guessed. I have also finished higher in the standings in some tournaments than a couple of Elite pros who were in the same tournament. I don't think I am blocking Dwight Freeney successfully or taking down Chris Johnson with out a trip to the ER. Why??? Because they are professional athletes............and I am a fisherman.


fishing user avatarbigbassctchr101 reply : 

I played sports in middle school, high school, and college...(I also fished tournaments in high school years, and I fished College Bass tournaments in college) I call fishing a sport because it has all the atributes of any other sport I participated in. Football is completely different from basketball, basketball is completely different from tennis, and tennis is completely different from fishing. But, I think they are all sports.

Maybe the only difference between a sport and hobby or past time is where your mind set is?

I'm not trying to tick anyone off, just trying to get my point across. I guess it's well stated that my point is I think fishing is a sport. lol No reason in trying to change anyone elses mind about something that matters so little in the scheme of life huh?


fishing user avatarIma Bass Ninja reply : 
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I think people who can't do anything athleticly are saying fisherman are althetes so they can call themselves athletes. I can fish hard for 10+ hours a day in 90 degree heat for a week straight, and be tired at the end of each day. Does that mean I just acomplished some grueling feat of sport? No. It means I am tired at the end of a log day of fishing............who would have guessed. I have also finished higher in the standings in some tournaments than a couple of Elite pros who were in the same tournament. I don't think I am blocking Dwight Freeney successfully or taking down Chris Johnson with out a trip to the ER. Why??? Because they are professional athletes............and I am a fisherman.

Ding, ding, ding!! we have a winner for stupidest quote of the day.. ;D ;D ;D Just so ya know i was a football player, baseball player, and basketball player, along with being a scratch golfer, and carrying a 200+ average in bowling. I don't need to fish to be called an athlete. Maybe the fact is, that the people that say fishing is not a sport , never actually played any sports competitively at all??

Again time to back your opinion up with some fact.


fishing user avatarRangerphil reply : 

Farmer, if you played football since a young age and practiced year in and year out you probably would be able to block Dwight freeny! The great thing about fishing as opposed to other sports men and women young and old can compete and with a little bit of luck and a lot of hard work we too can go up against the pros.

By the way good job beating some of the big boys! :)


fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 

Well, guys.....sports are not always played by athletes, and not all fisherman are athletic.

You're all going to have to accept some gray area here.

As far as calling others' opinions stupid, well that pretty much kills the thread.




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