Elite Marshalls 2024

indy basser reply :

Anyone going to do this? I think I might, sounds pretty cool. I was bummed they got rid of co-anglers but this is it's replacement

http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/tournaments/elite/news/story?page=b_elites_marshal_program_20081106

Grey Wolf reply :

Any one who wants to be a snitch will love this job.

preach4bass reply :

Anyone who wants to help uphold the integrity of tournament fishing will love this job.

bassnleo reply :

$100 to enroll?

BASS wants to charge you to ride around and make sure thier Pros don't break the rules?

Good grief.........

Tin reply :

F'n joke

txbass1 reply :

WOW! Yeah, it makes no sense to me either and NO I will not be giving $100 to BASS in addition to traveling to the venue, paying for a hotel room, paying for my food, etc. I guess for the local who goes out to the lake in his own boat to follow an angler around anyway, it would make a little more sense. But I do not see KVD launching into Lake Houston or Lake Conroe anytime soon. ( Although I do think the sack #'s would be heavier out of Conroe than the Red River)

chitown reply :

Just can not wait. can I bring a Boom Box with Me. If I have to go to washroom will they me in. Oh Maybe iwill have my fill after firstday

I will watch from shore and sleep in Late. Maybe I will show up late first day. Do they give me rain gear and a heater if I am cold. Do they supply me with breakfast and Lunch.and drinks can I bring a 6 pack with me. Haw about some brandy to keep warm.

I know this is a job We all want to Be A BASS MARSHALL .Ha Ha Ha

Grey Wolf reply :

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Anyone who wants to help uphold the integrity of tournament fishing will love this job.

When are you going to plunk your 100.00 down for the honor ?

Olebiker reply :

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Anyone who wants to help uphold the integrity of tournament fishing will love this job.

When are you going to plunk your 100.00 down for the honor ?

When pigs fly out of my . . . This is just another example of how the arrogance of BASS' management is hurting the sport at the top level.

Willzx225 reply :

Personally I think this is a bargain if you look at it the right way. For $100 you get to spend 3 days in the boat with 3 different pros and they aren't holding anything back. You can't even spend 4 hours with a guide for that much! I also think that if the economy keeps going the way it is, then BASS would have a harder time filling all the coangler spots at $750 a pop.

For those who think that taking away the co anglers was a bad deal for the sport, I think exactly the opposite. Even though I would have loved to compete with them again, I am looking at it as the greater good. These guys are out there for their livelyhood and for every fish that a co-angler catches it changes the outcome. I wouldn't be surprised if FLW goes this way within a few years myself.

As always this is just my opinion and I too thought it was a bad deal in the beginning but I have tried to look at it positively and it seems to make more sense the more I think about it.

riverfisher reply :

100.00 Bones to spend 3 day's on Lake Champlain with an Elite Pro Im absolutely in!!

preach4bass reply :

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Anyone who wants to help uphold the integrity of tournament fishing will love this job.

When are you going to plunk your 100.00 down for the honor ?

If the Elite Series comes to my neck of the woods, I will certainly consider it. However, the point of my comment was to counter your "snitch" comment. No one in their right mind would pay $100 to snitch on someone else. But, a lot of people would pay $100 to observe a professional bass fisherman for three days. If you remember, back when BASS had the E-50s, folks were paying much more ($300 I believe) for the honor of observing the pros. Again, I doubt they were shelling out $300 to snitch.

Tin reply :

The "snitching" I would be worried about is a guy with the Day 1 leader getting paired with a pro trying to get points for the Classic. One thing leads to another and then the guy who needs points is all over the Day 1 leaders pattern. Why don't they just pair he same person with the same pro for the 3 straight days. I know they use to do it for the Classic.

Grey Wolf reply :

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Personally I think this is a bargain if you look at it the right way. For $100 you get to spend 3 days in the boat with 3 different pros and they aren't holding anything back. You can't even spend 4 hours with a guide for that much! I also think that if the economy keeps going the way it is, then BASS would have a harder time filling all the coangler spots at $750 a pop.
For those who think that taking away the co anglers was a bad deal for the sport, I think exactly the opposite. Even though I would have loved to compete with them again, I am looking at it as the greater good. These guys are out there for their livelyhood and for every fish that a co-angler catches it changes the outcome. I wouldn't be surprised if FLW goes this way within a few years myself.

As always this is just my opinion and I too thought it was a bad deal in the beginning but I have tried to look at it positively and it seems to make more sense the more I think about it.

You are forgetting your other expences like lodging , food , travel expences plus the money you will miss by taking off from work.

Manigotapee reply :

Wow, I have several thoughts on this situation....

My immediate reaction is that there is no way I am going to pay $100 so i can do a job that BASS otherwise would have to pay someone to do. That to me just doesn't make sense! I agree that for locals on the lake that the Elite's fish, this will be awesome, and could really help you learn the lake. I looked at the webpage, and it says it's $100 to enroll, and then it talks about a waiting list if the spots are full. Would a guy get his $100 back, or is that just a chance you take?

I think it is a bit on the "cocky" side for BASS to present this, but if I look at it from a business standpoint, from their shoe's, I can see their thought process. I hope FLW doesn't go this way, I like learning and think this would be a great tool, but let's just say I am more of a "hands on" learner! (aka: give me a stick!!)

5bass reply :

I knew this was going to happen.

The bad side is that you have to throw down money to babysit when it should be the other way around.

The good side is that for $100 bucks, you get to see how the pro's do it up close, all day long, three days in a row. Thats a good deal. I actually thought it was going to be higher than $100 bucks.

There are definitely good and bad points to this move but it's all in how each person looks at it. I can see both sides. I'd probably do it just because its so cheap.

Tin reply :

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I knew this was going to happen.
The bad side is that you have to throw down money to babysit when it should be the other way around.

The good side is that for $100 bucks, you get to see how the pro's do it up close, all day long, three days in a row. Thats a good deal. I actually thought it was going to be higher than $100 bucks.

There are definitely good and bad points to this move but it's all in how each person looks at it. I can see both sides. I'd probably do it just because its so cheap.

Too bad Dudley wasn't still with BASS. I'm sure you could make a lot more than $100 on his SML spots... ;D

SudoomFisher reply :

It seems like you could learn a lot but what about the pros that don't like to talk when they are fishing. You could get a lot out of just watching I guess but who wouldn't be tempted to chat the guy's ear off if they dont have anything else to do.

Also is the camera job something that you have to do? This seems like it can ge annoying for the guys who just want to sit back and watch and like a job BASS used to pay people for, though they were professionals.

Matt Fly reply :

I can't believe that no one mentioned, that for that 100 bucks, you get official BASS apparel free, sponsor goodiebags, and have passes to all meetings, and diners.

I looked at this two ways.

One, if I was to follow a few pros for the weekend in my boat, i'm gonna burn up my own gas. Well over the 100 bucks.

Two, I get to meet the pros, get BASS tournament apparel, sponsor goodie bags, and dine each evening with the pros, I can't see how it would be bad experience.

Bass XL reply :

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I can't believe that no one mentioned, that for that 100 bucks, you get official BASS apparel free, sponsor goodiebags, and have passes to all meetings, and diners.
I looked at this two ways.

One, if I was to follow a few pros for the weekend in my boat, i'm gonna burn up my own gas. Well over the 100 bucks.

Two, I get to meet the pros, get BASS tournament apparel, sponsor goodie bags, and dine each evening with the pros, I can't see how it would be bad experience.

Thats a good way to put it!

Willzx225 reply :

Bass-Brat- That is a good point about the other expenses but what are we upset about them doing away with: Fishing the event as a co-angler. These would be the same either way so if you ask me they negate each other. The $650 difference would offset most if not all of your expenses anyways. When you just consider the entry fees (100 vs 750), you are still getting the same amount of time on the water (actually last year you were only guaranteed 2 days but now you are guaranteed 3 days) for much much less cash out of your pocket. Also in previous years you were effectively doing the same job that they are suggesting now; reporting any rule violations.

Manigotapee reply :

I understand it, and can accept it better after Matt Fly's post. I would still rather be able to fish as a co-angler, but oh well. I was unaware of free dinners and etc.... I read about the goody bags, and don't know if I am real excited about the official BASS Marshall gear. It is still going to cost some $ when you figure hotel rooms, getting to and from the event, and other traveling expenses (meals while on the road). I look at it as if I am going to spend money traveling and time on the water (time off of work!) I would at least like the opportunity to win some money back and lighten the blow to my bank account. It should be a great program if you want to meet the pro's and learn/observe, I just feel you could do those same things while fishing out of the back of the boat..... just my 2 cents

Tin reply :

Who cares about the "Marshall Gear"? If you wear it around anyone who is up to date on BASS will just make fun of you for being a sucker and going along with this bs. It's kind of like going to a country fair, paying $3 to throw a dart at balloons, winning, and getting a 35 cent stuffed animal.

And sponsor goodie bags..... You mean hats, t-shirts, stickers, and all little promo junk that will end up thrown away or in the bottom of your boat for years?

And not only are you paying $100 to enforce the rules. You will also be being a scorekeeper by sending info back to the headquarters. Not too mention you will be operating a camera at times for the people back on bassmaster.com to watch. So you are paying $100, so you can be a referee, score keeper, and camera man. Am I the only one he sees this as a screwed up system?

And Fly where are you seeing "dining" with the pro's? Not on the website. From all my experience the only dining they ever have is at the Classics. Besides that they are always on their own. Unless of course you mean throwing a sandwich and some chips down on the boat. And the whole attending "social functions", that most likely means registration and such. Don't think you are going to go to private parties and such like BASS is hinting at.

Some people just bleed blue and yellow and are brainwashed. Some of the people who are sticking up for BASS in this thread also tried justifying why BASS got rid of having the kids fish with the pro's at their world championship. Even though this goes against just about everything Ray Scott was ever for.

I can see why BASS is doing this and now realize that they will have a great bunch of people just waiting to sign up, it's just plain pathetic. ;D :-X

Grey Wolf reply :

What was the payout for the co-anglers ? At least they had a shot at some money.

Matt Fly reply :

Tin, First off, kids fishing with the pros orginated in the Federation,not with BASS, The Federation started that. So they are back to where it was first started, in the Federations. They elected to pull out. Or have you for got that?

As for sponsor goodie bags, my goodie bag more than paid for the event I fished this year, by the way, StrikeKings goodies alone was more than 100 bucks and no crappy Tshirts or hats. Nothing but jigheads, Red Eye shads, Rage tails, KingKong swimbaits, and cranks.

Just so happens, I won alittle over 1500 that weekend with their product.

One thing I didn't mention was, this marshall program doesn't appeal to me.

How much did it cost to go to a BASS class? I would think paying 100 bucks and sitting in the guys office (his boat) for three days would be as equal to or better than sitting in some hard chair listening to lectures and speakers . JMO on which I'd rather spend my money on if I looked at it that way? You could spend 300 bucks for a guides instructional trip if that floats your boat or be in a pros office for 3 days.

Tin, does that mean you think pros like KVD, and alike are pathetic, afterall, they support this joke of an operation you speak of.

Is it pathetic that some kids pipedream is to fish BASS someday and his Dad wanted to give him some BASS apparell or that pethetic Tshirt that KVD, Clunn, Jones signed that weekend? Three classic champs autographs would make a great present to my grandson in my book, and I don't care if you see that as laughable.

No other sport has amatuers competing at the same time, why should this sport be any different?

I see lots of pros and cons as to being an observor, but until the season is upon us, I'll wait to see before I judge.

Tin reply :

Glad to hear you got $1500 worth of goodies, what about all the other guys? I'm sure there were some guys that got nothing, not everyone is special like you.

And sponsor, goodie bags? Nice to see you would rather take jigheads, Red Eye Shads, Rage Tais, and King King swimbaits over principle.

Finally, the pathetic I was referring to was people who are so easily amused with "goodie bags" than the bigger issue. Read inbetween the lines and see what this corporation is doing. And give your child or grandchild whatever they want if it makes them happy. Hell I have some autographed stuff lying arond, what's your address?

And I don't have a big issue with letting the pro's fishing without amatuers, it is better for them. But don't take away a great program for the amatuers then charge them money to not fish and do a job you would have to pay someone else to do. It is just not right.

Matt Fly reply :

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Glad to hear you got $1500 worth of goodies, what about all the other guys? I'm sure there were some guys that got nothing, not everyone is special like you.
And sponsor, goodie bags? Nice to see you would rather take jigheads, Red Eye Shads, Rage Tais, and King King swimbaits over principle.

Finally, the pathetic I was referring to was people who are so easily amused with "goodie bags" than the bigger issue. Read inbetween the lines and see what this corporation is doing. And give your child or grandchild whatever they want if it makes them happy. Hell I have some autographed stuff lying arond, what's your address?

And I don't have a big issue with letting the pro's fishing without amatuers, it is better for them. But don't take away a great program for the amatuers then charge them money to not fish and do a job you would have to pay someone else to do. It is just not right.

What principles do you think I broke since you ASSumed so much? I fished no BASS tournies. Did receive over a HUNDRED dollars of Strike King product vice the 1500 you think you read.

lol

Tin reply :

Well I misread it, you're right I'm wrong.

Manigotapee reply :

I'm caught in the middle here between the two of you....

MattFly, I see your point and agree, for $100 you could learn a lot from sitting in a pro's boat and watching him first hand....etc....

Tin, I do also see this as an arrogant move on BASS' part..etc....so i'm torn.

The thing that I have a problem with is that I am expected to pay money and then do a job! I would have no problem paying for the learning experience, but I just can't get myself to write that check to go work for BASS....

Mike 12345 reply :

I think its a pretty cool opportunity. I was bummed that the co-angler bit went away, but I have warmed up to the Marshal deal. I know that a lot of you will consider me a complete moron because of that, based on your posts throughout this thread. However, its a neat deal for me.

Vacation time is not a problem. I'm going to pull my camper to the

tourney, and stay at a campground there. Minimal costs, really.

And, although lots of you guys are very experienced and terribly good bass fishermen, I am still starting out in this sport, and the opportunity to spend 2-3 days immersed in the sport with top pro anglers, talking to them about techniques, lure selection, boat positioning, etc., is very appealing to me.

It's really easy to drop $100 on fishing stuff at your local sporting goods store, some of which may help you catch some fish. For my money, a hundred bones getting to see how really good anglers do it (and showing me what to change up or do differently when I'm on the water) is money well spent.

I don't really care about being asked to do a few things while I'm on the water. To me, its completely insignificant to the main point of advancing my bass angling knowledge and decision making.

I think if you are already an outstanding bass fisherman, then it may not be a good return on your money. However, if you are someone with the same experience as me, you may very well get a few fantastic bits of information each day that you might be able to apply and could really propel your technique/presentation/lure selection, etc.

My take on it anyway.

zbass reply :

mike12345 hit it on the head as far as I'm concerned. If you look at it as a learning tool, it's well worth it. If you were in it to make money as a co then it's not. I have been a co and an observer. Yes, I would rather fish, but I learned a lot as an observer that has helped my game plan. If you treat them with respect, then that's what you get back. If they want to talk then talk. If not, bring an ipod. There are plenty of other tourny trails out there to make money at.

You don't see bob riding with dale jr. do you. If it is truly a pro sport, then it needs to be truly a pro sport.

fishfordollars reply :

I can see it now. A marshall and a pro in a fist fight on the front deck. When that marshall calls him out on bending a rule it will be on.

I might pay the hundred to watch.

Maybe we can get Ossama(If we can ever find him)to target espn. I would pay to watch that also.

And while we are at it let's let him do the BCS too.

Jeremy D. reply :

The funny thing is the people on here doggin it will prob. be the first to sign up!.!> haha ;D

Mike 12345 reply :

Sorry, just don't see the humor. Why would that amuse you so?

J Francho reply :

There is just something funny about hypocrisy. Its a dark humor thing.

senko_77 reply :

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The funny thing is the people on here doggin it will prob. be the first to sign up!.!> haha ;D

LOL. So true.

Mike 12345 reply :

Oh well, I still think it will be a great learning tool.

Mike 12345 reply :

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The funny thing is the people on here doggin it will prob. be the first to sign up!.!> haha ;D

I have to apologize to you on this-- I just reread your post, and see what you meant. No disrespect intended.

fishfordollars reply :

Good job guys. Now that's they way to head off an issue. Congratulations to the both of you.

I Love BassResource reply :

I'll pay a hundred bucks(and other misc fees) to watch one of those cats for three straight days. I could care less if chumps down the line snicker at my cool pimpin Bass marshall shirt.

8-)

fishfordollars reply :

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I'll pay a hundred bucks(and other misc fees) to watch one of those cats for three straight days. I could care less if chumps down the line snicker at my cool pimpin Bass marshall shirt.
8-)

That cool, pimpin, bass shirt would probably fetch 500.00 from some want-a-be on ebay when you get tired of it.

Grey Wolf reply :

Could some one tell what the 100.00 fee is for ?

flechero reply :

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Could some one tell what the 100.00 fee is for ?

I would guess it pays for the salary of the "teacher" and the apparel. ? I also think it would eliminate some of the people who wouldn't take it seriously.

Grey Wolf reply :

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Could some one tell what the 100.00 fee is for ?

I would guess it pays for the salary of the "teacher" and the apparel. ? I also think it would eliminate some of the people who wouldn't take it seriously.

Thank you.

Mike 12345 reply :

I have a related question regarding this opportunity. I know that co-angler ettiquette would suggest that one should help out the boater with gas money.

What is you(re) collective opinion on this with the Marshal program?

preach4bass reply :

Zel... reply :

I think they first need to get a spell checker at BASS or learn how to spell responsiblity (responsibility) under YOUR COMMITMENT TO BASS. Time to unleash the Long Mike!

http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/tournaments/elite/news/story?page=b_elites_marshal_program

Bass Dude reply :

I have no issues with the Marshall program or that BASS did away with the to co's. A co-angler I still has a multitude of tournament organizations to choose from as well as the different "divisions" within BASS (opens, fed, etc). People talk as though BASS eliminated the only option for co-anglers to fish. I am of the view that they are Pro's and Joe Fishermen from Bunghole, USA shouldn't get in the way of their livelyhood, especially since the Co's have other avenues.

That being said, all of you who hate BASS and what they are doing---how many have eliminated their membership to BASS? How many don't read the magazine or watch the tourney shows on Saturday mornings? Did any of you write letters to BASS? I'm guessing not a lot of you took this step to show how much this bothers you. Get what you can out of BASS and let them run their organization. The elimination of Co's is not as horific as some make it out to be.

warmer reply :

this is hilarious!

- i love the exposure that b.a.s.s. gives fishing. it seems to be increasing, and i imagine they have done enough market testing to determine that they can draw enough "marshalls" at 100 a pop.

- you dont have to go, so why do you care if someone else will.

- the snitching problem that big daddy "cool" diesel was addressing was also a problem with co-anglers so i dont see that this is a new change.

- i could not be happier to see them get the co-angler out of the boat. how horrible would it be to have worked hard locating, managing, and protecting fish for 4 days of hard practice, wake up on tournament day confident you have a shot at $100,000 dollars based on what youd found, shake hands with a competitor in the back of the boat who donks a 10 pounder on the top of the head. your ten pounder. forget about it, good riddance co-anglers.

- carrying on on the co-angler theme. co-anglers effect the outcome. a good fisherman in the back of the boat can help you or screw you up. they can help if they help refine your pattern, hurt if they catch your fish. a bad co-angler can help or hurt you. either way, they add an element to the game and effect the outcome.

- hurray for the marshalls!

Steve C reply :

Being a newbie, I would have liked to do this but the only tourney I could get to (kentucky lake) is already full with 22 on the waiting list. I would have been nice to just watch a pro fish and see what they were using and doing.

Would have been well worth the $100 for me.

No need to apply this year ... at least for that tourney.

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