Just looked on the JDs website and saw there is a snakehead roundup this saturday the 11th! I actually have off and plan on fishing. Anybody else plan on fishing?
Matt
I was going to but now I'm not sure if I want to contribute to Snakehead extermination :-/
I will no longer particpate in snakehead bludgeoning tournaments/roundups.
On 5/7/2013 at 3:16 AM, Captain Shane Procell said:I will no longer particpate in snakehead bludgeoning tournaments/roundups.
Explain please??
Jeff
On 5/7/2013 at 3:24 AM, 00 mod said:Explain please??
Jeff
I think I can, since we share the same sentiment... it's about not wanting to, in our opinion, unnecessarily kill them. They are a great game fish, and they don't appear to be having a negative impact on the ecosystem that people once believed they had. We enjoy catching them, AND RELEASING, for future enjoyment :-)
HTH
I'm a little surprised of the 2 reactions thus far. This time last year it seems like everyone was gung ho about these. I enjoy catching the snakeheads as much as everyone else does, and i haven't killed one ina while myself. i just didn't have a chance to compete in one last year. I'm very curious of the turn around.
Matt
On 5/7/2013 at 3:54 AM, mvorbrodt said:I think I can, since we share the same sentiment... it's about not wanting to, in our opinion, unnecessarily kill them. They are a great game fish, and they don't appear to be having a negative impact on the ecosystem that people once believed they had. We enjoy catching them, AND RELEASING, for future enjoyment :-)
HTH
Fair enough. Everyone has there own motives!
On 5/7/2013 at 3:58 AM, mg4u2nv said:I'm a little surprised of the 2 reactions thus far. This time last year it seems like everyone was gung ho about these. I enjoy catching the snakeheads as much as everyone else does, and i haven't killed one ina while myself. i just didn't have a chance to compete in one last year. I'm very curious of the turn around.
Matt
Hence the reason I asked for the explanation. I was/am still under the assumption they are a nuisance fish and need to be removed. Although not having ever fished in an ecosystem with them, I have no true opinion. Now we find a way to catch bighead/silver carp, and I will host the tournaments!!!
Jeff
LOL
On 5/7/2013 at 4:09 AM, 00 mod said:Fair enough. Everyone has there own motives!
Hence the reason I asked for the explanation. I was/am still under the assumption they are a nuisance fish and need to be removed. Although not having ever fished in an ecosystem with them, I have no true opinion. Now we find a way to catch bighead/silver carp, and I will host the tournaments!!!
Jeff
Both good points. I know a lot more now than i did a year ago about these things. They are not going to go anywhere, they are not decimating the bass population, they are not eating small children. I was more interested in getting together with other people in the area and havin fun. I don't have the desire to kill them like i did a year ago. Round up or not, I would still like to make a trip up there saturday a.m. and target them(already have the time slot cleared with the wife, lol). Always like fishin with someone so if anyones free i'll be happy to join ya.
Matt
Three years ago I bought into the snake head hype, hook line and sinker. I was one of the loudest opponents of the snake heads in Broward County. I was killing them like crazy and encouraging everyone to do the same. I started to realize that I was catching the snake head in areas that are full of bass, peacock bass, bluegill, oscar, talapia, shiners, turtles and everyhing else. I even noticed all these fish in the C-14, which is supposed to be ground zero for snake heads. I started to ask myself how can the snake head be a monster and there still be so many bass of all sizes in the same areas? If I was not on the water all the time to see it for myself then I might be taken in by the hype. I recently read an article in which Kelley Gestring, who is the head of the FWC Invasive Species unit, which confirmed that I am correct in realiseing that the snake head is just another invasive species that has found its place in our local waters. I have linked to the article at the bottom.
One more thing: I am not a proponent of killing a fish just for the sake of killing. I no longer hunt because I really did not like killing the deer. Does that make it wrong to kill a fish or deer? Absolutely not. This is just my personal conviction and sits right with me.
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/03/16/man-snags-supersnake-in-margate-canal/
On 5/7/2013 at 5:09 AM, Captain Shane Procell said:Three years ago I bought into the snake head hype, hook line and sinker. I was one of the loudest opponents of the snake heads in Broward County. I was killing them like crazy and encouraging everyone to do the same. I started to realize that I was catching the snake head in areas that are full of bass, peacock bass, bluegill, oscar, talapia, shiners, turtles and everyhing else. I even noticed all these fish in the C-14, which is supposed to be ground zero for snake heads. I started to ask myself how can the snake head be a monster and there still be so many bass of all sizes in the same areas? If I was not on the water all the time to see it for myself then I might be taken in by the hype. I recently read an article in which Kelley Gestring, who is the head of the FWC Invasive Species unit, which confirmed that I am correct in realiseing that the snake head is just another invasive species that has found its place in our local waters. I have linked to the article at the bottom.
One more thing: I am not a proponent of killing a fish just for the sake of killing. I no longer hunt because I really did not like killing the deer. Does that make it wrong to kill a fish or deer? Absolutely not. This is just my personal conviction and sits right with me.
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/03/16/man-snags-supersnake-in-margate-canal/
+1 Captain! +++++1!
Well there you go. A guy on the water more than most of us, his opinion should be held high! I respect that!
Jeff
I think theyre spawning right now too.
On 5/7/2013 at 2:55 AM, mvorbrodt said:I was going to but now I'm not sure if I want to contribute to Snakehead extermination :-/
Good man, hopefully your boy LMG has retired the slaughter too!
Bravo also @ Shane
Hopefully more people start changing their tune, even the FWC did a 180
such a beautiful moment on bass resource, Im getting emotional
I don't fish for them too often but I did yesterday afternoon, they seemed to be pretty active. I don't have an overly strong feeling one way or the other for them, just a variance in my normal routine. One thing I found to be quite similar is a comparison to barracuda, I had each yesterday. Both are not considered gamefish, yet both are great table fare, both fish can be aggressive and both can be followers and veer off at the last second, and both are exciting and give a good accounting of themselves.
I've been on this sight for a number of years and I still wonder at this gamefish vs trashfish comparison. Many of these gamefish are not the best on the plate, don't fight all that hard, not all that wary and not difficult too catch. The so called trash almost always gives a great battle, some are vary wary (if I catch 2 or 3 larger cuda in a month I've done well), many of these fish are tasty, and some can be cut up and used for bait, I don't call any of those uses trash. I mainly c&r, I know what I prefer catching, I'll take the trash.
On 5/7/2013 at 1:40 PM, Diggy said:Good man, hopefully your boy LMG has retired the slaughter too!
Bravo also @ Shane
Hopefully more people start changing their tune, even the FWC did a 180
such a beautiful moment on bass resource, Im getting emotional
Yea LMG has now seen the light and does C&R :-)
Have you guys seen this: http://thesnakeheadhunters.com/
those are some of the roundup guysOn 5/8/2013 at 5:42 AM, mvorbrodt said:Have you guys seen this: http://thesnakeheadhunters.com/
I know that the web site indicated snakeheads in Palm Beach county, I'm in Delray and have yet to see them up this way, at least based on shore access. As it stands I only fish for them about a half dozen times a year, don't care to put that many miles on to go find them, I'd like to find some closer to me.
I've caught quite a few out of the Potomac River over the last few years but haven't caught any this year. I kill them when I catch them but I am slowly changing my mind. Especially when I think how many other invasive species are in the Potomac. Maybe the kill on sight is slowly diminishing the numbers because it's odd to me that I haven't caught one yet.
I thought it was illegal to put snakeheads back in water????
I know some states they are illegal to throw back or even to have on you. Im not sure if its a law in FL or not, even though Ive heard it quite a few times... even from people who hardly fish, but I didn't see anything on the FWC site about it other than they encourage killing them, and any other invasive fish with the exception of peacock bass updated 4/17/2013. It didn't say you cant though.
I'm not so sure we can classify peacock bass as invasive any more, they were stocked on purpose to control other invasives.
On 5/9/2013 at 7:13 AM, Greeneye8181 said:I've caught quite a few out of the Potomac River over the last few years but haven't caught any this year. I kill them when I catch them but I am slowly changing my mind. Especially when I think how many other invasive species are in the Potomac. Maybe the kill on sight is slowly diminishing the numbers because it's odd to me that I haven't caught one yet.
Glad you're coming around to the Jedi side of the force :-)
On 5/9/2013 at 7:48 AM, BigAL said:I thought it was illegal to put snakeheads back in water????
NOP! They suggest you kill it, but it's not mandated by law.
On 5/9/2013 at 8:59 AM, fstr385 said:I know some states they are illegal to throw back or even to have on you. Im not sure if its a law in FL or not, even though Ive heard it quite a few times... even from people who hardly fish, but I didn't see anything on the FWC site about it other than they encourage killing them, and any other invasive fish with the exception of peacock bass updated 4/17/2013. It didn't say you cant though.
I wonder if a law that requires you to kill it would pass "constitutionality" test. I for one have an ethical problem with killing things just for the sake of killing them (except mosquitoes and cockroaches, yak! :-P ) and would not follow such a law. what about people who wouldn't do it for religious reasons... anyways, getting way off topic and last thing i need is another suspension ;-)
I'd have to agree with Shane on this. The snakehead "problem" has been over-hyped from the get go. I remember the guys on this forum from up north explaining how they went through a similar fiasco years ago. Personally I have never caught or even seen a snakehead in the Everglades. And I am out there fishing at least once a week. Who is benefiting from these round-ups? Think about it
So I went to the weight in, in case you guys were there too, I was with the cute petite blondie and two little kids who kept peeking into the fish bucket :-)
I wanted to cry when I saw all the beautiful, large, and DEAD snakeheads :-( Saw the kid with the state record and I vowed before the gods of Catch and Release that I shall beat his record one day!!! :-D
To be honest because of Capt. Shane when I first caught snakeheads I killed them but after the first 2 I just felt horrible about it. Did some research and found out they are being hunted down for the wrong reasons. They are a blast to catch even though they almost always destroy my lure. I catch my biggest bass in the same spot I catch huge snakeheads
I caught a snakehead on saturday and a school of bass came along with it for the ride. They almost looked as if they were trying to free it.
The only positive thing about the roundup is that people may actually eat the meat since they fillet it/donate it rather than leaving it on the bank but its overfishing at this point, but you could do the same with bass and or panfish that has a bag limit
Its still my favorite fresh water fish to catch, cant top it in terms of excitement/size of potential fish.
This one was huge, potential record fish, he didn't even care, just caught and released
Beautiful !!
the snakehead problem wasnt overhyped i fish C-14 every week for the past 23 years.. 2 years or so ago u owuldnt catch many LMB it was mainly snakeheads maybe a avg of 10 SH to 2LMB now 2 years later (this was saturday) caught 2 snakeheads n 12 LMB so i do believe they caused problem it you let them over run the canals killing some to keep control is nothing wrong with it and so you guys know i dont fish for snakeheads im a LMB fishermen
On 5/16/2013 at 6:02 AM, BP10 said:the snakehead problem wasnt overhyped i fish C-14 every week for the past 23 years.. 2 years or so ago u owuldnt catch many LMB it was mainly snakeheads maybe a avg of 10 SH to 2LMB now 2 years later (this was saturday) caught 2 snakeheads n 12 LMB so i do believe they caused problem it you let them over run the canals killing some to keep control is nothing wrong with it and so you guys know i dont fish for snakeheads im a LMB fishermen
and i was really starting to like you man! LOL J/K!
On 5/11/2013 at 12:57 AM, evrgladesbasser said:I'd have to agree with Shane on this. The snakehead "problem" has been over-hyped from the get go. I remember the guys on this forum from up north explaining how they went through a similar fiasco years ago. Personally I have never caught or even seen a snakehead in the Everglades. And I am out there fishing at least once a week. Who is benefiting from these round-ups? Think about it
there not in the glades you wont see them there
On 5/16/2013 at 6:30 AM, mvorbrodt said:and i was really starting to like you man! LOL J/K!
just saying how it is from someone who fishes the canal every week for 23 years like i said id rather be catching LMB then snakeheads but if people doing the round up helps keep them down and me catching LMB n not them i dont mind at all
On 5/16/2013 at 6:39 AM, BP10 said:just saying how it is from someone who fishes the canal every week for 23 years like i said id rather be catching LMB then snakeheads but if people doing the round up helps keep them down and me catching LMB n not them i dont mind at all
Its to bad the young anglers hear don't understand that.... If the snakeheads are not keep in check it once again become a problem. If that's allowed to happen the problem will spread to adjacent systems as the snakehead dominates the food chain eventually most LMB will be targeted as a food source.