The Women Are Worse! 2024
MrsBassAssasin reply :
I've seen women here ask about treatment from male fisherman being rough but what about the treatment from non-fisherman females? I never let it get to me because I'll never apologize for doing what I love but I can't be the only one who gets slack from other females ??
bigbill reply :
Your saying that non fishing females give you flack about you fishing? That's terrible, I'd ask them what hobbies do they have? If any woman or man hasn't been out fishing in the dark when the sky lights up and goes from twilite to dawn it's not about just fishing. Have they ever witnessed a doe with her two fawns at first light at the waters
edge trying to get a drink while two freshwater otters are splashing them there missing out on nature's finest moments by not fishing. We all have wild America all around us when were fishing. Even camping when there's a low fog in the field in front of us and a herd of deer pops there heads up out from the mist. We were fishing from the mass. Border down thru Connecticut all the way to the ocean on the housatonic river. We fished in every spot we could. My point is so many people miss out on life. Then they say I wish I could of, should of?? I never let anything I could experience slip by when it comes to being outdoors with nature. It's there loss.
Now let's talk about that topwater strike when we toss a spook near the Lilly pads and watch a bass turn and come towards our lure like a submarine on a hunt while we hold our breath as she hits it to knock it silly then turns and takes it. Those seconds feel like minutes. This is why we fish and what we live for.
I get the same flack about hunting. I'm sitting in front of an abandoned Apple orchard that's up in the green mountain national forest as far up in elevation as my jeep could go to an old farm. At around 5pm this red squirrel climbs thru the brush pile to the end of the branch in front of me and stares at me. I figure out he never seen a human before. Then he climbs up the Apple tree where he has an Apple wedged in the fork in the branch. He takes it out and eats some, then he puts it back in the fork in the tree branch and leaves. I had a front row seat to see this unfold. My point is I'd never see this at home. Plus I smoke my annual $5 cigar up there too.
KyakR reply :
Bill, you have a gift for drawing the attention to the beauty of this world. Your optimism and joy in things lifts my spirit! And truly it's a good thing not to focus on negativity.
But MrsBassAssassin, I believe, has an excellent point. Women tend to be competitive with each other when it comes to attracting positive male attention. A confident woman who fishes and does it well is often in the company of admiring guys. Some women find this threatening! Men are fiercely competitive with each other and status conscious also, but in a different way usually I think. It's more about success. Could be that's why men started tournaments. My experience with non-fishing females sometimes is similar to MrsBassAssassin's, unfortunately. But fishing women I run into usually are pleased and even relieved to meet another female angler!
Some men are hostile to a woman fishing, some are pleased. Some women are hostile, some are pleased. In my experience it's for different reasons. Each gender has prejudice. For women, MrsBassAssasin' brought up an important point. It's hard for us to face. And really, I usually don't talk so much..... 
KyakR reply :
I started a previous post in a negative, accusatory way and I wish I hadn't. It tends to elicit responses in the same tone! I hope everybody sees the validity in MrsBassAssassin's topic, not the negativity so we can merrily comment!
MrsBassAssasin reply :
Thanks for the great responses KyakR and BigBill. Y'all definitely hit a few nails right on their heads.
Bill those are the moments I live for and love that my son is learning to love them too.
Kayakr, l have a career, I cook, I clean, I don't *****/nag my husband, and I love fishing & football. So my very happy husband tells his friends, they whine to their wives, and that leads to me feeling the hate or being seen as a threat . Not to mention my own friends who don't understand my love for fishing. I'd be GLAD to take them and show them the ropes but they aren't interested. You are right, other female anglers have ALWAYS welcomed me with open arms, the same as I have with them. Luckily most men around here welcome female anglers on the water, but not yet for most clubs. There's 1 club here for couples, otherwise it's men only .
roadwarrior reply :
This was the theme to another recent thread. There are a lot of wives that just don't want
their men hanging around other women regardless of what they are doing. Spending a day
on a boat "together" is something that bothers non-fisherwomen. My wife doesn't care a thing
about my fishing, but I know she would not approve of a "regular" female partner.
MrsBassAssasin reply :
On 10/1/2013 at 8:15 PM, roadwarrior said:This was the theme to another recent thread. There are a lot of wives that just don't want
their men hanging around other women regardless of what they are doing. Spending a day
on a boat "together" is something that bothers non-fisherwomen. My wife doesn't care a thing
about my fishing, but I know she would not approve of a "regular" female partner.
Oh I definitely respect that. And totally agree. I was referring more to other women just not understanding the sport, or thinking its "strange" or "silly" for a woman to love it so much. I fish on occasion with my husbands buddies sometimes with him there sometimes without him. But its all close friend of ours I wouldn't just fish with some random guy. 90% of the time if i'm fishing my husband is with me.
aceman387 reply :
On 10/1/2013 at 9:22 AM, MrsBassAssasin said:I've seen women here ask about treatment from male fisherman being rough but what about the treatment from non-fisherman females? I never let it get to me because I'll never apologize for doing what I love but I can't be the only one who gets slack from other females ??
Are these "non-believers" other family members? If so is there any chance you can covert them over to believers by taking them out with you fishing. I know a lot of people who are locked in a routine rut not even realizing life is passing them by. I bet if these "non-believers got a chance to get out with other women and see how much fun it is they would fall in love with fishing like the rest of us.
aceman387 reply :
speaking of routine ruts,i have a habit of passing over the women's section and going on to the fishing tackle section. shame on me because I see I have over looked some interesting topics.
bigbill reply :
Some people are competitive when they fish I'm not. I go to fish and relax. I have women friends too. That doesn't bother my misses there her friends too. Why are people so insecure? Life is too short to sweat about the little things.
tomustang reply :
Never had that problem. Probably because all my wife's female friends (who dont fish) know going out and fishing is something she enjoys..
Sounds like jealousy is looming.
aceman387 reply :
I feel the same way Bill. My wife who grew up in chicago (city girl) took some women of the outdoors classes and then took up bow hunting a few years ago, she routinely goes out hunting with a couple male friends of mine.I could care less. In the beginning my one friend would always call me and ask my permission before asking her to go along hunting ,he couldn't believe i would let her go solo with some male friends.In my mind i am relieved she is going out with some experienced hunter friends of mine .I used to hunt (pheasant) but gave it up years ago .I am not about to stop my wife from doing anything she wants to try . I encourage her to live life and try new things.
bigbill reply :
My wife and her girlfriend asked me to take them fishing and target shooting. I think it's awesome that there showing interest. They can fish with me anytime. I'm always alone anyway. I'll take them pan fishing. I already purchased them light casting rods with zebco reels.
bigbill reply :
My son's ex girlfriend fishes, rides dirtbikes, rides motorcycles and even runs chainsaws. She helped me repair dirtbikes too. We were riding in a local legal place to ride dirtbikes. In her safety gear it was hard to tell she was a girl. The Harley riders came by to take a break with there gals. Sara comes out of the woods and stands her bike up
doing a wheelie and when she stopped and took her helmet off and her long hair dropped
out of her helmet and the Harley babes seen she was a girl they went crazy. One even was elbowing her hubby that it's a girl.
You wouldn't believe how many guy riders she sent home because she beat them thru the Rocky trails. She could ride faster than most of the guys. Some of the neighborhood kids wouldn't ride with us anymore because she rode better than them.
I admire the women who are willing to even try something out of the norm and why not I believe anyone of us can do anything we put our minds to. We just need to stay focused and motivated. I have no clue why some are so negative and hesitant to try something different there is so much more to life that there missing out on. It's too bad there so sheltered and close minded. Plus there jealous and feel threatened towards the other women who are willing to branch out and explore the different things in life. I say start
living life now before it's too late and life passes you by. Why do some people put limits on themselves? There are no rules or limitations on what we can do or not do. Failure is not an option.
Even go hunting and find a nice spot to sit up in the mountains and take in the fresh air and natures view of what our world has to offer to us. You will see in person what some only see on postcards. Only the ones who are willing to get out there will see this and that's a shame because there are so few.
KyakR reply :
On 10/1/2013 at 8:15 PM, roadwarrior said:This was the theme to another recent thread. There are a lot of wives that just don't want
their men hanging around other women regardless of what they are doing. Spending a day
on a boat "together" is something that bothers non-fisherwomen. My wife doesn't care a thing
about my fishing, but I know she would not approve of a "regular" female partner.
Women ( or men, if their wives are without them and let's say, bowling or hunting ) many times aren't really being insecure, mistrustful or petty. Many are actually wise. Placing oneself in a position to bond with a member of the opposite sex over a shared passion can be tempting fate. It's good to be humble when it comes to the ways of the heart! As far as couples are concerned, each one is different. And it's always good to just accept and honor a spouse's feelings without judgement. Boy I learned that one the hard way! 
bigbill reply :
How true and one must know the limitations before it gets out of hand for jealousy can be a home wrecker even though nothing is going on. The ground rules must be set and respected. But it's better to avoid problems before they start to fester. It's only human that our minds do wander and think evil thoughts when we think something is going on.
There is nothing wrong with conversation about our sport and making new friends. What an awesome world we live in if we took the time to go out there and enjoy it.
Brian Needham reply :
On 10/1/2013 at 8:15 PM, roadwarrior said:This was the theme to another recent thread. There are a lot of wives that just don't want
their men hanging around other women regardless of what they are doing. Spending a day
on a boat "together" is something that bothers non-fisherwomen. My wife doesn't care a thing
about my fishing, but I know she would not approve of a "regular" female partner.
this is very true...... I caught flack after the roadtrip. While telling my girlfriend about the trip, I went into detail about Sunday (I caught bigger fish sunday so I was excited to talk about it.
About the point I said...."and I told Kerri to get the net." all hell broke loose.
Who's kerri?
SO you can go fish all week with other women, but you can even invite me?
You NEVER take me fishing but can fish with another woman?
1. Kerri is glenn's wife
2. it was ONE DAY, determined by blind draw, and nothing happened in the least execpt catching fish.
3. I have taken you fishing before.
My answers did not matter............
Tuckahoe Joe reply :
On 10/1/2013 at 9:42 AM, bigbill said:Your saying that non fishing females give you flack about you fishing? That's terrible, I'd ask them what hobbies do they have? If any woman or man hasn't been out fishing in the dark when the sky lights up and goes from twilite to dawn it's not about just fishing. Have they ever witnessed a doe with her two fawns at first light at the waters
edge trying to get a drink while two freshwater otters are splashing them there missing out on nature's finest moments by not fishing. We all have wild America all around us when were fishing. Even camping when there's a low fog in the field in front of us and a herd of deer pops there heads up out from the mist. We were fishing from the mass. Border down thru Connecticut all the way to the ocean on the housatonic river. We fished in every spot we could. My point is so many people miss out on life. Then they say I wish I could of, should of?? I never let anything I could experience slip by when it comes to being outdoors with nature. It's there loss.
Now let's talk about that topwater strike when we toss a spook near the Lilly pads and watch a bass turn and come towards our lure like a submarine on a hunt while we hold our breath as she hits it to knock it silly then turns and takes it. Those seconds feel like minutes. This is why we fish and what we live for.
I get the same flack about hunting. I'm sitting in front of an abandoned Apple orchard that's up in the green mountain national forest as far up in elevation as my jeep could go to an old farm. At around 5pm this red squirrel climbs thru the brush pile to the end of the branch in front of me and stares at me. I figure out he never seen a human before. Then he climbs up the Apple tree where he has an Apple wedged in the fork in the branch. He takes it out and eats some, then he puts it back in the fork in the tree branch and leaves. I had a front row seat to see this unfold. My point is I'd never see this at home. Plus I smoke my annual $5 cigar up there too.
Man, you hit the nail on the head. While fishing I've seen countless beavers and bald eagles, a huge otter out of the water rolling around on the grass like a playful dog, turtles the size of trash can lids...freaking majestic stuff. This is only my second season bass fishing and it's brought me up close and personal with nature. Heck, the other day driving to the lake, there was a deer in the opposite lane and it actually ran towards me, jumped, ran across the hood of my car, and kept on going. Bass smashing topwater lures, huge chain pickerel pulling drag like nobody's business...I wouldn't have experienced any of this if I hadn't taken up fishing.
As for other women giving me flak about fishing, I don't have to worry about that. I work six days a week and all I really only have time for is my work and fishing and fortunately for me, my wife loves to fish. I moved last year and all my friends are about 2 hours away. I don't make new friends very easily so if I'm not working, I'm fishing with my wife. She's my world and I'm hers. If she's working I'll go by myself and she'll tease me about finding some floozy to fish with or if I'm working I'll tell her she'll just have to find some other guy to take her but we both know we're kidding.
bigbill reply :
As its been said some people can't see the forest though the trees, there missing the boat, unless there in the boat with no oars, etc you get my point.
When I was logging full time when I had my firewood business I was out cutting in the light snow one day I shut the chainsaw off and sat on a stump.
I could actually hear the snow hitting the ground. I thought to myself
who has a better work place than me. Heaven is right here on earth.
aceman387 reply :
Nature Rules! I had a pretty cool story about a damsel fly. I was out fishing in my kayak earlier in the summer when I stopped to pee in some shallow water. I didn't notice that a damsel fly larvae had gotten attached to my water shoe until I climbed back into my kayak. I spent the next three hours in my kayak studying this damsel fly as it emerged and opened its wings and stood there in the sun on my shoe waiting for its wings to dry out so it could fly. I told my wife that most men would have stomped it and got back to fishing but since the fish weren't biting I figured what the heck, I have never seen this before. I jokingly told my wife I named the damsel fly Wilson ( the volleyball from the tom hanks movie) because it hung around with me for most of my fishing outing that day...lol. When I told her that story she told me to go lay down for awhile because she thought I was out in the sun too long...lol.
wvbassmistress reply :
I joined my husband's bass club about 5 years ago. I was nose deep into showing horses but that was getting to be a drag and physically/mentally draining. He had moved away from his fishing partners and was fishing more and more on his own. Essentially, I started going along just to keep him company. I'd read, work on my tan, nap...whatever. Then he convinced me to at least throw something out there. I'd hook something, land it and just spin around for him to take it off the hook. Well, just took a few times of me catching a few bigger than his before I realized this was pretty darn fun.
I won a few of the club tournaments and 1 year even had the big fish for the entire year. But they know a sucker and now I am stuck being secretary/treasurer.
3 years ago, I had a chance to fish our regional State Championship qualifier, but he kinda dissed that with the "what if you have to pee" argument. I let him talk me out of going. He even gave up his boater position since I was crapping out as a non-boater. ( this is a draw partner kinda thing and I would be paired with strangers for 2 days). Last year...I had done my research and just decided I would deal with it if I had to go (which I didn't - but THEY did and I politely turned my head) My buddy the second day was at first glance, a bit of a jerk. But since then, I have spent some time with him and he has become a real supporter of female fisherwomen in the Federation. - well, there are only 3 in the whole state. This year, I fished the qualifier again and had more great boat partners. I didn't need the bathroom break, but I did slip down in the floor and change into shorts each day. They kindly turned their backs. No biggie. My husband had teased each of them that if I don't catch anything I cry. I told them just just make sure they put me on some fish! End result this year??? I qualified for the State Championship placing 14 out of 64 
. And a buddy of mine fished another division and placed 8 out of about 80!!!!!!! She and I will be going head to head! Everyone has been so supportive of us. I think we don't approach it as women primarily. We are fisher(men) that just have more estrogen in us than they do. We have even dubbed ourselves "Team Estrogen". I met some other great guys in the parking lot when their truck battery died and I helped them jump it. We met up later and they called me "Triple A" which made my husband question how I knew more people there than he did and he has been doing the tournament thing for 30 years. He doesn't get jealous unless I out-fish him!!!! If I want to pick up a new man...it won't be at a fishing tournament. They only have one thing on their mind!!!!!!!!
I understand, and have heard comments, that some of the wives might not be 100% cool with their husbands being on a boat with a woman they don't know for 9 hours. This may sound harsh, but if they are that insecure, they are the type that would worry if he asked a woman where the trash bags are at the grocery store. I try to be nice, professional, and myself. If their they or their wives have a problem with me, that is their loss ...'cause I am a pretty cool person!~!!!!! 
aceman387 reply :
Nice post!
wvbassmistress reply :
OK...total Newbie here...how do I delete my duplicate post?
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KyakR reply :
"I think we don't approach it as women primarily."
This is so key. I enjoyed your post and especially your attitude! I watch Stacy Z's videos and she seems to have the same one. It seems it's in your nature not to get caught up in the petty stuff.....you turned your back on the prejudice you encountered. And you're getting back what you're putting out good-naturedly from both women AND men, I think. Yes, we're women, and that influences how we see our world. But it ain't the end-game! Congrats on your win! Keep going.....bass fishing needs women like you. Welcome here 
You'll find the best advice and support you could want. I have. Wish I could fish with you! 
coryn h. fishowl reply :
On 10/1/2013 at 6:39 PM, KyakR said:Bill, you have a gift for drawing the attention to the beauty of this world. Your optimism and joy in things lifts my spirit! And truly it's a good thing not to focus on negativity.
But MrsBassAssassin, I believe, has an excellent point. Women tend to be competitive with each other when it comes to attracting positive male attention. A confident woman who fishes and does it well is often in the company of admiring guys. Some women find this threatening! Men are fiercely competitive with each other and status conscious also, but in a different way usually I think. It's more about success. Could be that's why men started tournaments. My experience with non-fishing females sometimes is similar to MrsBassAssassin's, unfortunately. But fishing women I run into usually are pleased and even relieved to meet another female angler!
Some men are hostile to a woman fishing, some are pleased. Some women are hostile, some are pleased. In my experience it's for different reasons. Each gender has prejudice. For women, MrsBassAssasin' brought up an important point. It's hard for us to face. And really, I usually don't talk so much.....
True, we love a women that can fish.
Though I may not be a women, I am, for the the time being at least, stuck smack dab in the middle of suburbia, in high school. I am quite familiar with the disgusted looks and the questions about which mental health facility I escaped from that I would actually venture within 20 feet of non chlorinated water.
coryn h. fishowl reply :
I don't see black, white woman or man, I simply see what lure your using when I look over your shoulder
On 10/11/2013 at 9:57 PM, KyakR said:"I think we don't approach it as women primarily."
This is so key. I enjoyed your post and especially your attitude! I watch Stacy Z's videos and she seems to have the same one. It seems it's in your nature not to get caught up in the petty stuff.....you turned your back on the prejudice you encountered. And you're getting back what you're putting out good-naturedly from both women AND men, I think. Yes, we're women, and that influences how we see our world. But it ain't the end-game! Congrats on your win! Keep going.....bass fishing needs women like you. Welcome here
I don't see black, white, woman, or man, I only see what lure your using when I peek over your shoulder
Sam reply :
When placed in an uncomfortable position many people "attack" first. So if the people you are with are not comfortable with your hobbies (fishing, quilting, sewing, scrapbooking, etc.) they will say something negative to bring the others to their side against you. Happens all the time in real life.
Deep down inside these individuals may be insecure or not used to ladies being interested in a "sport" which is a male's territory.
A lot of young girls are not interested in football. So they do not wear either NFL or college team colors nor go or watch the games on TV. If a young lady likes football and has no support system (another female who likes football) then the girls who are not into football will critique and make fun of her out of their insecurities.
My wife lets me alone with my fishing and I let her alone with her quilting. She joins me for fishing functions and I join her for quilting activities. When asked if I quilt we say "no, he fishes" and that's that. If anyone attacks me verbally I can turn on them in an instant and destroy them with a verbal attack. Not proud to be able to do this but it is something I learned many years ago.
So ladies, you go fish and let the other women do the dishes, laundry, clean house, do yard work, shop and stay at home watching TV.
coryn h. fishowl reply :
On 10/28/2013 at 2:45 PM, Sam said:When placed in an uncomfortable position many people "attack" first. So if the people you are with are not comfortable with your hobbies (fishing, quilting, sewing, scrapbooking, etc.) they will say something negative to bring the others to their side against you. Happens all the time in real life.
Deep down inside these individuals may be insecure or not used to ladies being interested in a "sport" which is a male's territory.
A lot of young girls are not interested in football. So they do not wear either NFL or college team colors nor go or watch the games on TV. If a young lady likes football and has no support system (another female who likes football) then the girls who are not into football will critique and make fun of her out of their insecurities.
My wife lets me alone with my fishing and I let her alone with her quilting. She joins me for fishing functions and I join her for quilting activities. When asked if I quilt we say "no, he fishes" and that's that. If anyone attacks me verbally I can turn on them in an instant and destroy them with a verbal attack. Not proud to be able to do this but it is something I learned many years ago.
So ladies, you go fish and let the other women do the dishes, laundry, clean house, do yard work, shop and stay at home watching TV.
It's a useful skill, btw, remind me not to tick you off Sam
Rochelle Cavanaugh reply :
"If I want to pick up a new man...it won't be at a fishing tournament. They only have one thing on their mind!!!!!!!!
I understand, and have heard comments, that some of the wives might not be 100% cool with their husbands being on a boat with a woman they don't know for 9 hours. This may sound harsh, but if they are that insecure, they are the type that would worry if he asked a woman where the trash bags are at the grocery store. I try to be nice, professional, and myself."
EXACTLY! It's a professional sport. We're both there for one thing... fishing. I grew up fishing with my brother, uncles and dad. Those were LONG days on the water and if we needed to pee we'd turn our heads. Change clothes? Turn our heads. It's called respect. We need to see ourselves as sisters and brothers on the water instead of pieces of mindless meat-- (but society propogates that off the water..)
I'm trying to get into a club here in San Diego, CA and it's been tough because I am a co-angler and my husband doesn't fish. He is really supportive and trusts our marriage will survive my hobby and a few tournaments. hahaha I thought the bass masters community is suppose to be a family? I guess I'll just keep looking for that kind of club...
bigbill reply :
When I worked for the engineering group I took the female tech's out for lunch
sometimes. Most of the time it would just be the two of us. I treated every gal like she was my sister with the up most respect. My wife had no problem with that but I'm sure at work the rumors were flying around behind my back. I would down play if I heard any stupid rumors anyway. I like to think about everyone being adults but they can be like little kids. Gossip and rumors makes them feel better I guess. I hit it off with some gals as a friend and were coworkers. We put up with each other 8 hours a day. Its like a second home and family. I treat everyone like I want to be treated. Wether it's working, fishing or having a coffee/lunch at a local eatery what's the diff? I go home to the love of my life my wife. I love some people like there family but I'm in love with my wife. That's the difference. Bill
Fishing Cowgirl reply :
I've been in male oriented careers all my life and from family of outdoors men and women. They raised bird dogs and hunted every season, then fished in between or during them. I don't let other's opinions get in the way of enjoying something I love to do, especially since it is legal. If someone tells me I can't do something just because I'm a woman, It usually makes me try harder at it. I've fished since I was old enough to hold a cane pole and bait my own hook. I was always encouraged by the family and in fact it was expected that I know how to catch it, clean it and cook it.
I found a fantastic man who is a wonderful fishing partner, who doesn't mind and in fact encourages me to get out and fish, even if it is by myself or with someone else. (He found out that some fishermen will give me tips on lures that wouldn't breathe a word about it to others.) By fishing in local Sunday afternoon tournament by myself, I made contact with a fellow,now a friend, who ran a monthly couples tournament.This was much more affordable than what we were doing, it put us in contact with other couples who lived locally and loved to fish, which led to fishing in a larger monthly tournament called Weekend Warriors Bass club. We now fish both, have a great time, and right now I'm the only woman to fish in the Warriors club. We've ended up placing 1st and had Big Bass on Lake Kissimmee,where I caught the big bass. This made the other guys take notice. We moved from 11th to tied for 4th in that. We moved up again the next one, where I caught the only fish. That kept us in the top ten, since that is a tough lake and alot of teams didn't even catch a fish (14" +minimum). This last Saturday was a fun, no points tournament on Lake Garcia and Hubby was happy to be netman for me. I caught a 1.9 lb, 3lb, 4.9lb, and a 5.50lb, coming in 3rd place with less than 1 lb between 3rd and 1st, and missed Big Bass by less than 3 ounces. I've now been nicknamed BFL (Big Fish Lisa) lol. Some of the guys were even asking me what lure I was using. 
Just "one of the guy's now"
To go fishing, hearing the wildlife, gators calling and carrying on disagreements with each other, the waterfowl making their racket in the pre-dawn while you are waiting for safe light and the only thing that seems to be missing is Tarzan's Yell. That is part of an experience and making memories that will last until I can't fish anymore. I've enjoyed meeting and being Caption for the PVA and Wounded Warriors. They didn't have a problem with being assigned to a female captain and their wives didn't complain. I've encouraged other ladies to get out an fish and told soem to take their little girls fishing.
KyakR reply :
I too have worked mostly in male dominated professions all my life. It really is about simple respect......respect for oneself, respect for others. In a committed relationship I think it's a big mistake to try to control one another period. I can understand the caution a spouse might feel when his/her partner spends a great deal of time in a much-loved activity with members of the opposite sex, though. Best thing for this is to talk together affectionately about it and keep a sense of humor. It can be an opportunity to become even closer and more trusting (I'm an optimist)!
To be "Just "one of the guy's now"........(what Fishing Cowgirl said) is my aspiration. She eloquently expressed the heart of fishing. And I totally loved everything Rochelle Cavenaugh wrote! What they said!!
Encouraging other women, and especially children, in fishing has always been important to me. I think encouragement and bonding with an adult who goes fishing with them makes ALL the difference. Gender has nothing to do with it. Women receive less encouragement and are less exposed to the joy of all kinds of angling. When women understand better what fishing really is I think it lessens any pre-occupation with their man's foolin' around. The girls they want are in the water.
Fishing Cowgirl said, "I've encouraged other ladies to get out an fish and told them to take their little girls fishing." Yes,yes!
bigbill reply :
Like I said before about my son's girlfriend riding dirtbikes and beating most guys takes a lot of work and dedication to get her there. I taught her she can be as good as you want to be but you must stay focused and motivated. My son showed her the rest. This is one tough gal. She rode hard, took her lumps and never gave up nor complained once.
She taught me how tough gals can be too. I seen her tear her ACL and try to get back on the bike to ride it off. We took a trip to ride up north not expecting ice and snow. She fell numerous times like we all did and she never moaned or cried once. I seen her take shots in her crashes that would sent any guy home crying. When most guys heard a girl was going to ride with us there eyes would roll. Then when she beat them she earned there respect as a fellow rider or they would disappear never to ride again with us. These were our buddies we hung out with. Funny they never mentioned her name too.
My point is anyone goes in a under dog being new to any sport. Being a woman your seen more as an under dog. Till you prove your worth and spot in the line up. You actually earn there respect by doing better than them. My congrats to any woman who does it. You have my deepest respect.
But some guys can't accept losing to a woman. They don't show it on the outside but there hurting on the inside. I just laugh at them. There the ones who won't show up to compete again.
boatfan77 reply :
On 10/2/2013 at 9:25 AM, bigbill said:My wife and her girlfriend asked me to take them fishing and target shooting. I think it's awesome that there showing interest. They can fish with me anytime. I'm always alone anyway. I'll take them pan fishing. I already purchased them light casting rods with zebco reels.
Two women's & Two great catches :-)
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Keri reply :
I'm late to the thread but I have to say sorry to Brian, however your post did make me chuckle. 
I hope all is well now and the waters are calm.
Keri
Brian Needham reply :
On 11/24/2013 at 1:18 AM, Keri said:I'm late to the thread but I have to say sorry to Brian, however your post did make me chuckle.
I hope all is well now and the waters are calm.
Keri
no worries girl........looking forward to seeing you and Glenn again this year!
BeckieC reply :
I normally fish with either my hubby or my son or both, on the last day of the road trip last year I fished with FishinDaddy. It was the first time I had ever been fishing with a man who wasn't my husband since I've been married and it felt really weird. Lee was awesome, a gentleman all the way, and we had a good time, and of course the only thing going on was fishing but it still felt weird and awkward for a good long while.
KyakR reply :
If I get a chance to get to the Roadtrip this year (it's looking good ) I'll have the experience of fishing with someone else, guy and gal, for the first time since I went with my dad 50 + years ago! I'll probably be a lot more relaxed with a woman for starters because that's just the way nature made us. I'm sure that'll be true of the guy. But I'll be so happy to have the chance to learn and share experience I believe any uncertainty will be fleeting, even though I'm quite shy by nature.
I think in general men and women who pooh-pooh the dangers of spending a lot of time on the water alone with someone not your husband/wife/committed partner are making a mistake. Nature meant for there to be attraction, and it's had enormous power for hundreds of millions of years. It's the engine of survival itself in all life.
Hey, there's an ancient myth (Greek?) that after the world was born each human being was both male and female and began to attack the gods. So they split man in half, each half a different gender. That meant man would be so preoccupied and dithered he wouldn't be able to attack anything. Lots of truth in this!
bigbill reply :
I just crack myself up and laugh at everyone inside. My wife's girlfriend is like a sister to me that I never had. I went birthday shopping for her and gave her boots similair to uggs. I gave her and my wife nice warm Browning socks, rings (not expensive) insulated gloves and hats. I just want them to be warm so they don't get sick. I'm just being nice and thoughtful. Of course everyone has there minds thinking bad thoughts. But I gave my daughter and my two daughter in laws the same thing. Now I'm going to my cancer center with some wristwatches to do a grab of gifts for the techs that we're nice to me for my cancer radiation treatments. I bought some biker stuff for one of the gals there who rides Harleys and takes kids fishing too. I'm being really nice to everyone this year. I laugh inside when I can tell what people are thinking. I guess it's human nature. I been also bringing the gals at the cancer center Bridgewater chocolate too every so often to say thanks for the way they treated me. These aren't cheap chocolates but I want to say thanks and I'm still here because of what they do. The cost means nothing. It's the new friends I have made.
What's wrong to being nice to people who treat you nice. Does it have to make rumors fly? How can people be so ignorant?
Merry Christmas, God bless, remember Jesus is the reason for the season. Bill
bigbill reply :
On 11/25/2013 at 9:24 PM, KyakR said:If I get a chance to get to the Roadtrip this year (it's looking good
I think in general men and women who pooh-pooh the dangers of spending a lot of time on the water alone with someone not your husband/wife/committed partner are making a mistake. Nature meant for there to be attraction, and it's had enormous power for hundreds of millions of years. It's the engine of survival itself in all life.
Hey, there's an ancient myth (Greek?) that after the world was born each human being was both male and female and began to attack the gods. So they split man in half, each half a different gender. That meant man would be so preoccupied and dithered he wouldn't be able to attack anything.
Why do they hunt deer during the rutting season? The bucks get preoccupied and stupid. There's truth in what you say man is no different. Bill
SirSnookalot reply :
On 10/1/2013 at 8:15 PM, roadwarrior said:This was the theme to another recent thread. There are a lot of wives that just don't want
their men hanging around other women regardless of what they are doing. Spending a day
on a boat "together" is something that bothers non-fisherwomen. My wife doesn't care a thing
about my fishing, but I know she would not approve of a "regular" female partner.
I couldn't agree more.
My wife does things without me, book clubs, museums, lectures and I wouldn't appreciate her going with another man, by the same token I don't think she would appreciate me having a female fishing partner. Temptation is not the issue, respect is.
KyakR reply :
It's always been my belief that when you're with or addressing a married person, male or female, you're not dealing with one person, but two. Respect truly is the issue. Marriage is a sacred covenant in all religions for a reason. It's a precious thing, perhaps the most precious thing that human beings build together. Of course, there are many people who are inattentive to theirs for various reasons, or having a momentary lapse. If I care about people in general, or someone specifically, why would I ever encourage him to even risk his even a little? It wouldn't matter that my intent is honorable. I try to also think of his/her spouse in all my conduct.
But Bill, your attention to others flows from the best kind of caring! Anyone who knows you even a little gets this. You're not responsible for others' imaginings about you, as you know.......the people that matter are the ones you're showing your gratitude to. They know. And as a former RN, I can tell you that your thanks in these gifts means everything! If only people knew how difficult it is to come to care about patients with chronic illnesses over time and to lose some of them, to see them struggle so valiantly and be unable to help past the limits of science. Your smile and small gifts are actually healing, Bill. Thank you.
bigbill reply :
You know I feel really like Santa just because of the smiles I get when I give them little things. I been married for forty years in the spring. I'm still working on my marriage to keep it a success. It never stops let's face it. I try to stop and listen more lately. I make sure it's all good. I can never figure out what she really likes or wants with her being an accountant she's cheap and won't spend money. We all just surprised her on her 60th birthday. My kids wanted to pay but dad picked up the $1,000 tab for the birthday bash with family and friends plus coworkers. It meant more than money to me.
We really kept it under wraps for a month too that was hard. She never bothers me about any of my hobbies. She's a great mother to my children, a great partner to me. She keeps both of my feet planted on the earth. Remember you get out of a marriage/partnership what we put into it. God bless, bill
roadwarrior reply :
My wife doesn't fish, but she has her hobbies.
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