fishing really muddy cold water 2024

bassinbob54 reply :

hey guys..any advice about bassin in mid 40 degree very muddy water?

Mr Jenkins reply :

Color wise id go with Black or Grape. This time of year just hard locating fish.

Catt reply :

Lures that move a lot of water, contrasting colors, & fluorescent colors

Crestliner2008 reply :

Fish structures you know, that have produced for you in the past. Fish slow. Dragging a dark tube can work wonders sometimes.

TimJ reply :

if theres any wood around, try it. Ive read that bass move to accessible wood in muddy water.

Wayne P. reply :

It sounds like a perfect application for a Chatterbait.

jashas62 reply :

I cought a couple in the 4 lb range last weekend in that water temp and clarity with a black spinnerbait. Slow, slow, slow

fishfordollars reply :

Large big bladed, bright colored or black spinnerbaits

Jigs with rattles

Crankbaits with a wide wobble and bright colors.

The more water you can move the better.

If you can go down lake or stay out on the main lake river ledges and points where the water might not be so muddy. Hunt for the clearest water you can find.

If the whole lake or river system is off color the upper end and the back of the creeks will be the first to clear.

If the system has any grass hunt for it as it tends to filter and clear around it also.

Jack

bassinbob54 reply :

thanks guys ..thats some great advice and remineded me that i have 3 new chatterbaits i havent tried yet!!!

cart7t reply :

mid 40 degree very muddy water?

Stay home.

Seriously, your time would be better spent lubing reels or reorganizing tackle.

pennyankees reply :

a black/blue/peuple jig with a rattle fished really slow may work. you have your work cut out for you though

zach t reply :

XR75. Rayburn Red or chartrouse. Do it.

little_stephen reply :

my expierence led me to try bright hyperactive colors. they failed me. ive stuck to blacks, i second the grape as a good one. and colors like green pumpkin.

i like tossing a jig with a chunky enough profile to move some water and a few rattles on it. work it slowly. a black jig with a few strands of blue in it and a half a berkely power worm in elec grape is a goto on a few of my local lakes/mud puddles. but this is ohio. ur in NC. i have no idea what the bass wanna see down there.

last thing to say, my oppinion on chatterbaits is to leave them at home. i hate the things. i can get similar noise and vib off a spinnerbait with this blade that has a colorado and a huge willow blade for the main blade. theyre riveted together. its this ugly thing, which the name of it is escaping me! (Sorry) but it puts out tons of noise and thump and its not as prone to snaging as ive found chatterbaits to be.

hope this helps some?!

ww2farmer reply :

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mid 40 degree very muddy water?
Stay home.

Seriously, your time would be better spent lubing reels or reorganizing tackle.

You got that right. Cold muddy water is one nut I can not crack. And by muddy I mean chocolate milk muddy, stained is one thing...........in fact it may make a bite turn on in other wise gin clear water, but they seem to run from the mud when the water is cold.

little_stephen reply :

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mid 40 degree very muddy water?
Stay home.

Seriously, your time would be better spent lubing reels or reorganizing tackle.

You got that right. Cold muddy water is one nut I can not crack. And by muddy I mean chocolate milk muddy, stained is one thing...........in fact it may make a bite turn on in other wise gin clear water, but they seem to run from the mud when the water is cold.

curious to know where u two are from!? because i know in northeast ohio we fish any day of the year that doesnt include ice on the surface (someof us even fish then. but the idea of fishing thru a hole in the ice seems like a bad plan to me)

bassinbob54 reply :

well as much as it has rained here so far this winter if i stayed home because of the mud i'd hardly ever get to fish..so instead i'm hopeing to pick up a little tip here that might help..so far i have managed a few fish on jerkbaits and also on rattle traps.

Teal101 reply :

Buncha Pansies ;D

The lake I mainly fish has maybe 6-8" visibility and fluctuates from completely frozen over to 85* in the summer (water temps). Anything colored like a crawdad gets destroyed.

Had good luck with a dt-4 hot mustard color.

b.Lee reply :

On Saturday we had a club tournament, just after a huge storm had come through for about a week. Out of 8 boats, 6 were skunked, the two that caught fish looked for clearer water. I suggest trying to find the clearest water possible. We were pretty much fishing chocolate milk the whole day

Fish M4ST3R reply :

I agree, don't waste your time searching for fish that won't bite in weather that will.

RoLo reply :

Cold & muddy water makes for hostile conditions, when you need to move LOTS of water.

I use a wind-up soaky toy, and if it doesn't work,

at least I've got something to watch

Roger

Skeet22 reply :

Went out yesterday for the first time in 6 weeks mainly to run the boat. Post front conditions and low 45* muddy water= skunked. Did find an 18' hole that I had not seen before and it had fish piled up in it on the sonar. Tried dropping a jig to em without sucess. Tried a 10" worm also, just could not get them to bite. Wish I would of had a heavy Spinner bait to slow roll along the bottom. If you can catch fish in these conditions you get my respect.

Koop reply :

If there is clear water within 30min don't waist your time.

done reply :

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well as much as it has rained here so far this winter if i stayed home because of the mud i'd hardly ever get to fish..so instead i'm hopeing to pick up a little tip here that might help..so far i have managed a few fish on jerkbaits and also on rattle traps.

You got that right! My boat has been dry for a month and a half waiting for Wylie to look more like a lake than a chocolate milkshake.

I have never had much luck in Wylie under those conditions. When it is warm at least you can go shallow and pick some up.

bassinbob54 reply :

yea well at least its clearing up some on the upper end even around the hothole so maybe things will pick up soon

done reply :

yeah just in time for the next round of storms Friday and Saturday, lol.

I am glad to hear it is clearing up a little bit. I usually launch out of South Point and it clears quickly usually. Hopefully I will be out there again soon.

Carrington reply :

i would use a jig or a senko, for colors i would use dark green and black

flippn stick reply :

Wow thats tough anywhere. If the lake, pond, river, reservoir has an abundance of wood cover dont be afraid to fish relitivly shallow. TIGHT TIGHT TIGHT to cover with a big jig with a good loud rattle will help. Make several presentations to a target from different angles. Make sure your jig is making good contact with the cover and really get that rattle to work. In cold muddy water these fish will be in the heart of the thick stuff. Dont be affraid to loss a few jigs. Get in fornt of one and GAME OVER. They EAT

bassinbob54 reply :

wow another 2 plus inches of cold rain just fell makeing matters much worse im sure its gonna be tough but i cant stand it an im going! gomma try some of these great tips too...thanks guys

BassmanDan reply :

Good luck Bob...let us know how it turned out. At least you're out there shaking off the cabin fever.

Eternal Angler reply :

I would fish really light colors and fish them really slow.

Jon in VA reply :

In cold, muddy water, go to the Lucky Craft Fat CB BDS3 in 'Mad Craw' and work it very slow around any shallow cover you can find. The bass are NOT gonna work for food at this point, so you gotta put it right in their kitchen and leave it there for as long as possible.

bassinbob54 reply :

well i have been going out anyway and i did find some water that wasnt real muddy and i caught a few fish on my new favorite bait...the jig n pig..not many bites but all were nice fat fish..now its going to rain again tomorrow so i'll probably lose my decent water

swamper79 reply :

Not sure it was what some would consider "really muddy cold water" but a local bass club had a tournament this past weekend, the day after it rained 1", and the winning pair had a 5 fish limit weight of 22.42lbs with a 7.00lb kicker. The air temp was 45 and it was cloudy all day. The water was more highly stained than muddy though. Jig and pig on shallow timber was the ticket I believe.

stalking coyote reply :

Clearer cold water is better than muddy clear water... now with that said... and if you have no choice...

How muddy are we talking here? If were talking chocalate milk or Yoo-Hoo... then you basically have to hit the bass on the nose with the lure to get them to bite... and if that's the case then forget fishing deep... the chances of getting the lure in front of the fish or hitting him on the nose so to speak is not very likely... you will have alot better odds of getting on top of the bass up shallow where you can see the structure you need to fish and pick it apart... fish any wood cover you can find... and go big... bigger profile baits... bigger jigs and trailers... bigger bladed spinnerbaits... larger crankbaits... you want the most vibration you can get... as for color's... visibility is the key... darker colored lures like black or dark purple and high viz colors like floro chart or floro orange... spinnerbaits with a big Colorado blade (strong thumping vibration) in the above colors will work... bass will hug the wood tight tight tight in any really muddy water condition... by going shallow at least you can increase your chances of thumping one one the nose... I'm assuming you are talking about less than 6" of visibility hear... you have to be accurate with your pitch's or flips too... in 6" or less visibility and cold water... bass are not going to see, feel, or chase your bait if your not on top of them... period... he won't hit what he can't see or feel... and they will not be out roaming in Yoo-Hoo water... they will hunker down and wait it out... you have to HIT THEM ON THE NOSE... and that is just less likely to happen in deep water under extremely muddy conditions... it will be slow slow slow fishing... and very very very few bites... 5-8 good bites all day is what you are fishing for... and you better be ready for them... cuz they will be few and far between... but chances are they will be very good fish...

I Fish these exact same conditions every year during February and March somewhere... and it is very slow fishing... but like I said... you have to be determined, alert, cover water, and still fish slow... I forget any open banks without wood, rock, or vegetation... hit the key spots thoroughly and move on to the next piece... look for any dark objects that may absorb heat from what if any sun that may be out that day... and remember muddy water will absorb heat quicker and to a much higher degree than clear water... look to the backs of shallow dips or cuts... if you catch a fish take stock on what you caught it off of... wood, rock, vegetation, lone piece of wood, rock, or vegetation, heavy wood only, type of wood or vegetation, I've seen alot of times where the type of wood, vegetation, size of the wood limb or log made all the difference...

These are just the things that work for me in these conditions... you have to adjust as you figure out what they are holding to up shallow and what it takes to get them to bite... jig, spinnerbait, or crankbait... I'll throw all three at the structure until I figure out which one is working better than the other... sometimes it is one... sometimes it's the first one that gets close enough for him to feel the lure... in these extremely muddy conditions the bass will most likely feel the lure before he ever see's it... if he even really ever see the lure...

Good Luck... and I hope this helps... I'm like you... I would rather be out there trying that sitting home wishing I was out there!

Helluva_Engineer reply :

So add these conditions with the lake being down so no real shallow wood. I find a BLATANT line between clear and muddy water where a creek comes in. How do I fish it? Would that even be a good place to fish.

bassinbob54 reply :

that happened here too after all that muddy water flooded the lake , they dropped it like 4 feet exposeing what little wood we have here so fishing shallow was a lot tougher..what i did was work my jig mostly around rock. I figured if they cant find wood then they'll go for rock instead and thats where i got my bites

stalking coyote reply :

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So add these conditions with the lake being down so no real shallow wood. I find a BLATANT line between clear and muddy water where a creek comes in. How do I fish it? Would that even be a good place to fish.

It would be a good place to fish... how you fish it depends on the bass and the location of the mud line... is the mudline on the inside or outside? What I mean is starting from the bank is the water clear for a ways and then gets muddy (inside) or is it muddy from the bank out and then the mud line is out in deeper water? And sometimes... you can have both mudlines in the same place... Fishing the outside mudline is always a good place to fish... First I would get parralell with outside mudline and throw the same lures along the edge of the mudline, next I would throw the lures into the muddy water and bring them out into the clear water... bass will set up along the mudline and ambush bait as it comes out to them... this is even a great place to fish on windy days along the wind blown banks... except I would also add jerkbaits to this mix... Fishing the inside mudline depending upon how much space you have between the mudline and the banks can be tougher especially along bare banks (i.e. no structure) ... but the same principles apply... and if you can find some structure like wood, rocks, or vegetation all the better... I would also look for ditches coming off the banks where water runs into the lake... any ditches or runoffs... even small ones like 6" and follow them out a little ways with your graphs... it's not easy but this is where I would start... and just adjust from there...

stalking coyote reply :

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that happened here too after all that muddy water flooded the lake , they dropped it like 4 feet exposeing what little wood we have here so fishing shallow was a lot tougher..what i did was work my jig mostly around rock. I figured if they cant find wood then they'll go for rock instead and thats where i got my bites

If they dropped the water 4' leaving nothing but bare exposed banks... little to no wood... that is tougher, no doubt... But, yes I would start looking for any type of cover... rocks, what wood I could find, any vegetation... bridges along roads... and like I said above... if you find clear water/ muddy water mud lines... I would fish these very hard... especially along points and any ledges I could find... look for water runoff ditches, etc... it's tough and slow fishing like I said earlier... but it sounds like you are trying... catching a few fish... but if you are finding mudlines with clear/ muddy water mix... then I'm assuming the whole lake is not a choclate milk mix or Yoo-Hoo mix... and in this case you might not actually have muddy water throughout the complete water column... which means you might be able to go out into deeper water and actually fish below the horizontal (surface) mudline.... this can be an effective method as well if this is the case (i.e. a horizontal mudline profile in the lake)... You can have muddy water on the surface of the water column and clear water beneath it... but I don't know your lake and can't actually see the conditons for myself... so I can only offer suggestions on where to start looking... hope this maybe of some help anyway...

A-Rob reply :

perhaps a different end of the lake has more lightly stained water?

cold and muddy is not easy fishing!

jerkw8nonajerk01 reply :

Hank Parker said in Bassin mag if its muddy and cold find new water....but if you had to I hear chart and white spinnerbaits work well...My home waters are like this and ive only been catching on black and blue tubes and junebug finesse worms on shakey head lightest weight possible

bassinbob54 reply :

thats funny because Hank fishes this lake im talking about and he usually fishes the extreme upper end , actually he fishes the river..but on the catawba river we get real red thick mud often after hard rains and at 1st i can run down the lake but after a couple of days the mud moves in and of course i go back to the upper part where it may or may not be any clearer..i dont know how to tell if its muddy all the way through the water but it sure looks like it is..heres a pic after its cleared up 50%...http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab317/bassinbob54/thelake004.jpg

stalking coyote reply :

Something else to consider when fishing really muddy water...

Water that is heavily stained or muddy often appears reddish in color because little light of any wavelength (all colors are just different wavelengths of light) is allowed to pass through... the blues and greens are absored more than the reds...

Bass have have two optical pigments for color vision, red and green... Both pigments absorb light over a broad range of wavelengths, but each has its own optimum where it absorbs light the best... Based upon scientific studies of bass vision... Bass color discrimination capability appears to be the strongest in the red and green zones...

In very muddy waters, reds, oranges, and yellows are about the only colors of light available... given this... bass will not see purple as purple, blue as blue, or green as green, they will end up as varying shades of black or grey... except for the reds, oranges, and yellows... in shallow water... once you get to the depth that the red, orange, and yellow light wavelengths are absorbed (which will be quickly in very muddy water) they too will become lighter shades of black or grey...

In clear water the opposite is true... the reds, oranges, and yellows will be the first wavelengths to be absorbed and bass will not be able to distinguish between these colors as deep as the greens, blues, and purples...

So... in very muddy water the bass will have the best chance of visibility (i.e seeing them the farthest away) with the reds, oranges, and yellows... that is why red, orange, and yellow... along with the floro chart/yellow/orange colors along with black... generally will be your best producing colors...

When fishing really muddy water... I would start out with selecting these color options in the lures I will throw... jigs & trailers, spinnerbaits/skirts/blades, and crankbaits...

As for water temperatures... something else to keep in mind is that... studies have shown that when the water temperature is 40 degrees or less... bass only have to feed once a month to survive... and as the water temperature rises throughout the 40's it goes up a little from there... but still they can get by feeding only every two weeks or so... this makes for some very tough fishing and conditions... that is why most of your strikes will be reactionary strikes and your lure will have to be very very close to the bass...

So if you decide to go after bass in very cold muddy water (absolutely the worst fishing conditions) keep some of this information tucked in the back of your mind... I am not making this stuff up... this is all information taken directly from scientific studies... and if you really watch the pro's fish under these exact same conditions throughout Febuary and March when all this generally happens... you will see alot of jigs, spinnerbaits, and crankbaits being thrown... and generally up shallow for a reason...

cart7t reply :

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Clearer cold water is better than muddy clear water...

muddy clear water? :-?

stalking coyote reply :

my mistake... typo error ;D

Naturally, I meant... cold clear water is better than cold muddy water...

K_Mac reply :

I am with cart7t on this one. 8-) Unless there is money on the line, muddy 40 degree water is just not worth the effort. When I was younger I would go regardless of conditions. Now I'm a little more choosy...

BigEbass reply :

I feel your pain with dark and "muddy" water. I live in Birmingham, AL - the classic is going on down here and just look at the pros right now - the water in Lay Lake is stained pretty pronounced and 44-46 degree temps (last year probably 55-60) - many pros on prefishing days did not get a bite, some got "as many" as 6 bites......I guess that tells you somthing about "cold and muddy water" - its tough, even for the pros who got mucho experience and gear.

But I still fished yesterday - hauled water baby - fished all day at a small lake (public) nearby, not a single bite from 10am to 4pm - I can say though that I did not try black or purple - will give those colors a shot! A bad day on the lake is better than a good day at the office....

Chatterbait - I am a newb but I got a couple chatterbaits - for alabama largemouth, they are worth having around - I am not so sure if they are a good winter lure though (correct me if I am wrong) - I have killed bass with it though in spring and summer.

This severe cold weather has inspired me to learn the jig-n-pig myself - glad it has worked out for you - wow, two 4 pounders...nice - I have not been so lucky so far, but I think I am still getting the feel of using jigs - had before stuck with worms, cranks, and spinnerbaits.

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