Lipless Cranks 2024
Birdman2136 reply :
I’ve been using Rat L Traps. I’m currently looking for a lipless that has that shimmy on the fall I see and read people talking about. Certain YouTube channels recommend the LV500 and other high end lures. Anyone have any insight on more budget friendly options because the Rat L Trap really doesn’t do this.
Thanks guys.
Russ E reply :
Strike king red eye shad does it.
Rat l trap and cotton cordell super spot are good for constant retrieve.
Reed eye shad is my favorite for hopping and jigging. It is about the same Price as a Rat l trap
here is a demonstration from hook and look.
The Bassman reply :
Strike King Red Eye Shad and Rapala Rippin' Rap.
Bankbeater reply :
Strike King Red Eye Shad has a shimmy to it, but I have better luck fishing with Super Spots.
A-Jay reply :
The slack line flutter accounts for at least 75 % of the bass I catch on the RES.
A-Jay
shovelmouth83 reply :
the red eye shad for sure.
scaleface reply :
I do a lot of fishing from a flat bottomed jon boat and can attest that the Red Eye Shad shimmy's and clicks as it is falling . It can be heard . Worm fishing a Red Eye Shad is one of my favorite techniques .
Birdman2136 reply :
Seems like a popular vote on the Red Eye Shad.
Thanks guys
Smokinal reply :
Odd; I've always been, and always will be, a Bill Lewis guy.
2 falls ago, I was out for one of our last days and just brutilizing 'em with a red craw trap on rock piles. I go to cast, get a line pinch, a nick in my leader snaps, my last trap goes flying 1/4 mile. After kicking, screaming and crying like a baby for 17 minutes, I regain my composure, dig around the boat, find a red craw RES and think, "well, everyone says these are great"; I was wrong. The bite dropped to a fraction of what I had with an original trap.
Hey, if it works for you, have at em. I'll stick to a Bill Lewis trap
TnRiver46 reply :
All the pics I posted of fish this weekend were caught jigging a ripping rap in chrome color. All the red eye shads I have ever bought exploded in my
tackle box
Birdman2136 reply :
On 2/13/2019 at 9:03 AM, Smokinal said:Odd; I've always been, and always will be, a Bill Lewis guy.
2 falls ago, I was out for one of our last days and just brutilizing 'em with a red craw trap on rock piles. I go to cast, get a line pinch, a nick in my leader snaps, my last trap goes flying 1/4 mile. After kicking, screaming and crying like a baby for 17 minutes, I regain my composure, dig around the boat, find a red craw RES and think, "well, everyone says these are great"; I was wrong. The bite dropped to a fraction of what I had with an original trap.
Hey, if it works for you, have at em. I'll stick to a Bill Lewis trap
I’ll always use my Rat L Trap for burning around. Swamp Craw and Mean Green are my jam!
FishTank reply :
The Red Eye Shad for sure but the Yo Zuri Rattle N Vibe as been great for me as well.
My favorite is the one you want a substitute for > the LV500. I have caught tons of fish on this lure. The Chrome Black is my favorite color.
Bluebasser86 reply :
RES is the most popular. I've been experimenting with a Yo-Zuri 3DR that is supposed to do the same. The way fish eat it on the fall it would seem to be another good option.
fin reply :
I don't know if you can really classify the RES as budget-priced though. Personally, I like the Academy lipless cranks, which are about half the price.
The same thing that makes RES flutter also makes them run sideways at high speed. It's got a little bit too much flutter for my taste.
I think every brand has its own good points. I never met a lipless I didn't like.
Birdman2136 reply :
The main thing I was looking for is the ability to fish a lipless crank like a jig. I'm interested in trying this technique and want a budget friendly option for trying it out. Anything under 10 dollar is much more budget friendly to me compared to the LV prices.
So far it looks like I'll give the RES and Yo Zuri and try. Still open to more options.
Hawkeye21 reply :
The Red Eye Shad is my favorite as well. I do have a new one I'm going to try this year and it's from Berkley, I thinks it's called the Warpig.
scaleface reply :
On 2/13/2019 at 10:16 PM, Hawkeye21 said:The Red Eye Shad is my favorite as well. I do have a new one I'm going to try this year and it's from Berkley, I thinks it's called the Warpig.
I have a new warpig too and anxious to see how it falls .
Birdman2136 reply :
On 2/13/2019 at 10:19 PM, scaleface said:I have a new warpig too and anxious to see how it falls .
I looked at those... Seems to be a bit of a copy of the Megabass Vibration X or whatever its called, which supposedly has a awesome action when paused.
Bruce424 reply :
The warpig sinks like a rock at half ounce. Dont notice a shimmy at all. Lucky craft omari lipless does though. Good luck finding any though.
stratoliner92 reply :
Another vote for Sk Red Eye Shad
Tizi reply :
RES and LV500. The other one is a Sebile Flatt Shad, it is no longer produced. The red craw is killer on the Columbia River for SMB.
primetime reply :
I agree with just about everyone, the Red Eye Shad is a perfect lipless crank for letting it fall, or worming it etc.
I also catch fish with the Rattle trap and Spots letting them fall and flutter on slack line, but based on what looks better on video camera, I agree that the RES is hard to beat.
I was surprised nobody mentioned the Spro Aruku Shad which is only $7.99 and is weighted in front so it stands upright on the bottom. I use 1/2 ounce for just about everything, but some days a 1/4 oz will work better.
If you want to invest a few extra dollars, I would have a one knocker & silent version of any lipless crank to switch it up and get a few extra fish. Every company makes a one knocker now, but the Xcalibur XR50 now the Booyah Hard knocker is a great lure for the action on the fall as well.
Others that are good & have had success with..Yozuri Vibe, Jackall TN (Expensive but works great), and the Ima Rockin Vibe...Tackle Warehouse had them on clearance a few years ago at $4. The profile, action is fantastic and they flat out catch fish. Some of the more expensive lures are worth it at times. I would never not have a Live Target Golden shiner lipless crank, and I am not a live Target fan....But when it works, it really works.
This is a great article which gets into detail...Obviously no need to overcomplicate it, but the different sounds kind of matter at times, sizes...http://www.in-fisherman.com/editorial/lipless-crankbait-breakthroughs/154613
Hope that helps. Lipless Cranks are one of the best ways to catch fish any time of year on any lake imo.
Birdman2136 reply :
On 2/14/2019 at 10:08 PM, primetime said:I agree with just about everyone, the Red Eye Shad is a perfect lipless crank for letting it fall, or worming it etc.
I also catch fish with the Rattle trap and Spots letting them fall and flutter on slack line, but based on what looks better on video camera, I agree that the RES is hard to beat.
I was surprised nobody mentioned the Spro Aruku Shad which is only $7.99 and is weighted in front so it stands upright on the bottom. I use 1/2 ounce for just about everything, but some days a 1/4 oz will work better.
If you want to invest a few extra dollars, I would have a one knocker & silent version of any lipless crank to switch it up and get a few extra fish. Every company makes a one knocker now, but the Xcalibur XR50 now the Booyah Hard knocker is a great lure for the action on the fall as well.
Others that are good & have had success with..Yozuri Vibe, Jackall TN (Expensive but works great), and the Ima Rockin Vibe...Tackle Warehouse had them on clearance a few years ago at $4. The profile, action is fantastic and they flat out catch fish. Some of the more expensive lures are worth it at times. I would never not have a Live Target Golden shiner lipless crank, and I am not a live Target fan....But when it works, it really works.
This is a great article which gets into detail...Obviously no need to overcomplicate it, but the different sounds kind of matter at times, sizes...http://www.in-fisherman.com/editorial/lipless-crankbait-breakthroughs/154613
Hope that helps. Lipless Cranks are one of the best ways to catch fish any time of year on any lake imo.
Thanks for the detailed post. The Aruku Shad had been on I list I’ll definitely try one out.
GoneFishingLTN reply :
On 2/13/2019 at 8:04 AM, A-Jay said:The slack line flutter accounts for at least 75 % of the bass I catch on the RES.
A-Jay
What weights do you use for 2 taps and when do you use these? The two taps
scaleface reply :
The first silent RES i purchased has a loose weight making it a one knocker . It is my favorite one .
A-Jay reply :
On 2/17/2019 at 9:43 PM, GoneFishingLTN said:What weights do you use for 2 taps and when do you use these? The two taps
All 1/2 oz and I fish RES in, around, over and through light to medium cover (mostly vegetation) in water 4-15 feet deep and in water at least 50 degrees.
A-Jay
EGbassing reply :
Red eye shad.
Make sure get the small one if you're fishing shallow water though. I used to try to fish a 1/2 oz. in shallow water and I couldn't keep it off the bottom at all.
GoneFishingLTN reply :
On 2/18/2019 at 12:42 AM, A-Jay said:All 1/2 oz and I fish RES in, around, over and through light to medium cover (mostly vegetation) in water 4-15 feet deep and in water at least 50 degrees.
A-Jay
Sorry I meant when do you fish the 2tap over the others
A-Jay reply :
On 2/18/2019 at 1:18 AM, GoneFishingLTN said:Sorry I meant when do you fish the 2tap over the others
When that little voice in my head tells me too -
A-Jay
pauldconyers reply :
On 2/13/2019 at 8:04 AM, A-Jay said:The slack line flutter accounts for at least 75 % of the bass I catch on the RES.
A-Jay
Hey A-Jay, what model box is that?
A-Jay reply :
On 2/18/2019 at 4:30 AM, pauldconyers said:Hey A-Jay, what model box is that?
Plano Pro Latch Utility Box 3700
A-Jay
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 2/18/2019 at 12:47 AM, EGbassing said:Red eye shad.
Make sure get the small one if you're fishing shallow water though. I used to try to fish a 1/2 oz. in shallow water and I couldn't keep it off the bottom at all.
I fish the 1/2oz in 1-2 feet all the time. Drop it to the bottom and rip it up and let it sink again. It kicks up a puff of mud off the bottom, looks like a baitfish that's dying and settling to the bottom and kicking back up towards the top. They'll crush it, it'll look something like this. 2' of water back in December.
On 2/18/2019 at 1:19 AM, A-Jay said:When that little voice in my head tells me too -
A-Jay
Pretty much the same reason I do it.
On 2/18/2019 at 1:18 AM, GoneFishingLTN said:Sorry I meant when do you fish the 2tap over the others
RES are super popular here because of all the shad in our lakes, so anything that has that profile but with a different sound I think gets a few more bites. Not sure if that's why they work, but man do they work. The first one I ever bought when the came out is getting broke in pretty good.
kenmitch reply :
On 2/18/2019 at 12:55 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I fish the 1/2oz in 1-2 feet all the time. Drop it to the bottom and rip it up and let it sink again. It kicks up a puff of mud off the bottom, looks like a baitfish that's dying and settling to the bottom and kicking back up towards the top. They'll crush it, it'll look something like this. 2' of water back in December.
Pretty much the same reason I do it.
RES are super popular here because of all the shad in our lakes, so anything that has that profile but with a different sound I think gets a few more bites. Not sure if that's why they work, but man do they work. The first one I ever bought when the came out is getting broke in pretty good.
That's no longer a RES it's a zombie shad now!
EGbassing reply :
On 2/18/2019 at 12:55 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I fish the 1/2oz in 1-2 feet all the time. Drop it to the bottom and rip it up and let it sink again. It kicks up a puff of mud off the bottom, looks like a baitfish that's dying and settling to the bottom and kicking back up towards the top. They'll crush it, it'll look something like this. 2' of water back in December.
Pretty much the same reason I do it.
RES are super popular here because of all the shad in our lakes, so anything that has that profile but with a different sound I think gets a few more bites. Not sure if that's why they work, but man do they work. The first one I ever bought when the came out is getting broke in pretty good.
Thank you, I'll try that. I've tried jigging it through the water column but I never actually let it sink to the bottom.
fin reply :
On 2/18/2019 at 12:55 PM, Bluebasser86 said:
I guess maybe that speaks pretty highly of your lure retrieval device? I've never been able to hold onto one that long.
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 2/19/2019 at 7:54 AM, Hank. said:I guess maybe that speaks pretty highly of your lure retrieval device? I've never been able to hold onto one that long.
I don't get snagged with it often and when I do it's rarely deep enough I can't reach it easily. I did cast it off once but found it laying on the bottom in the shallows.
Birdman2136 reply :
On 2/14/2019 at 10:08 PM, primetime said:I agree with just about everyone, the Red Eye Shad is a perfect lipless crank for letting it fall, or worming it etc.
I also catch fish with the Rattle trap and Spots letting them fall and flutter on slack line, but based on what looks better on video camera, I agree that the RES is hard to beat.
I was surprised nobody mentioned the Spro Aruku Shad which is only $7.99 and is weighted in front so it stands upright on the bottom. I use 1/2 ounce for just about everything, but some days a 1/4 oz will work better.
If you want to invest a few extra dollars, I would have a one knocker & silent version of any lipless crank to switch it up and get a few extra fish. Every company makes a one knocker now, but the Xcalibur XR50 now the Booyah Hard knocker is a great lure for the action on the fall as well.
Others that are good & have had success with..Yozuri Vibe, Jackall TN (Expensive but works great), and the Ima Rockin Vibe...Tackle Warehouse had them on clearance a few years ago at $4. The profile, action is fantastic and they flat out catch fish. Some of the more expensive lures are worth it at times. I would never not have a Live Target Golden shiner lipless crank, and I am not a live Target fan....But when it works, it really works.
This is a great article which gets into detail...Obviously no need to overcomplicate it, but the different sounds kind of matter at times, sizes...http://www.in-fisherman.com/editorial/lipless-crankbait-breakthroughs/154613
Hope that helps. Lipless Cranks are one of the best ways to catch fish any time of year on any lake imo.
Thanks for the detailed post. The Aruku Shad had been on I list I’ll definitely try one out.
@A-Jay what color in that box is your go to? Just curious.
A-Jay reply :
On 2/19/2019 at 4:37 PM, Birdman2136 said:
@A-Jay what color in that box is your go to? Just curious.
@Birdman2136 ~ for several years it was the Gold Sexy Shad & the Perch pattern but past few seasons it's been the Orange Bream. In both the standard & the new 2 Tap configurations.
BTW - that picture is a slightly out dated as my RES arsenal has grown a bit to include several of the "Brown Craw".
That one started coming on strong at the end of last season and I suspect this trend to continue.
Here's the newest look at the RES box.
A-Jay
Birdman2136 reply :
On 2/19/2019 at 9:24 PM, A-Jay said:@Birdman2136 ~ for several years it was the Gold Sexy Shad & the Perch pattern but past few seasons it's been the Orange Bream. In both the standard & the new 2 Tap configurations.
BTW - that picture is a slightly out dated as my RES arsenal has grown a bit to include several of the "Brown Craw".
That one started coming on strong at the end of last season and I suspect this trend to continue.
Here's the newest look at the RES box.
A-Jay
@A-Jay Awesome. Being in WI I fish lakes that have no Shad presence at all. I was looking at ordering some in the Natural Shad and Gold Sexy Shad though so seems like I’m on the right track.
A-Jay reply :
On 2/19/2019 at 10:06 PM, Birdman2136 said:@A-Jay Awesome. Being in WI I fish lakes that have no Shad presence at all. I was looking at ordering some in the Natural Shad and Gold Sexy Shad though so seems like I’m on the right track.
Seems like it ~
It's hard to know and each body of water can be different depending on the forage base.
While the baits I mentioned have been better than some, I use every bait pictured at one point or another each season on bodies of water big & small all over northern Michigan; and they all catch fish.
I will admit to ensuring there is plenty of redundancy, as the pike always manage to get a few.
A-Jay
Birdman2136 reply :
On 2/19/2019 at 11:17 PM, A-Jay said:Seems like it ~
It's hard to know and each body of water can be different depending on the forage base.
While the baits I mentioned have been better than some, I use every bait pictured at one point or another each season on bodies of water big & small all over northern Michigan; and they all catch fish.
I will admit to ensuring there is plenty of redundancy, as the pike always manage to get a few.
A-Jay
I swear to you the smallest Pike steal my lures 99% of the time.
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