YAMAMOTO VS OTHERS (soft plastic) 2024

Del from philly reply :

Iv been using Yamamota for soft plastics....thats all i use....

i just got some Kreatures, but havnt fished them yet, im excited,

but anyway.....

How do you guys compare Yamamoto vs others????such as tiki, ect?

are they worth the money? or am i just as good with someother senko-like worms???

Short question- is Yamamoto plastics overrated???

THANKS

Bassinfreak2 reply :

Uh Oh. Here we go again. ;D

brian_82 reply :

check the senko thread... this is a ford vs chevy debate kinda thing.

roadwarrior reply :

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check the senko thread... this is a ford vs chevy debate kinda thing.

Touche' 8-)

.dsaavedra. reply :

imo, they are over rated. sure theyre nice...but they are expensive! if you have money, and confidence, then go ahead and use the GYCB, i however have the confidence, but not the money, so i buy the cheaper stuff like kinami and tiki stick. same great action, only half the price! one senko-type plastic that i do buy that is kinda high priced is the strike king 3x zeros. those are amazing. they are so strechy and soft and wiggly and durable. i love waky rigging, and when i do that heres what i've found: kinami last for a couple fish, tiki last for a few more, and 3x zeros last forever! they seriously never get torn up.

Del from philly reply :

THANKS GUYS

SORRY TO BE THE NEW GUY THAT IS ASKING QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ANSWERED TIME AND TIME AGAIN....

i foudn the thread you were talking about....sorry

Thanks for your patience....and advice

T-rig reply :

I love and also hate Yamamoto products! They have the best feel, are ultra soft, salt impregnated and they definately work. What I hate about them is that they dont last. If bass is going to take your bait he will no matter if it is Yamamoto or not. I do use Yamamoto products but if the bite is on I'll use other soft plastics that work just as well and last ten times longer. It's just another brand, nothing more and are way overrated and overpriced because some people swear by them and won't use anything else.

I think they are made that way on purpose so you have to keep buying bag after bag.

Del from philly reply :

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I love and also hate Yamamoto products! They have the best feel, are ultra soft, salt impregnated and they definately work. What I hate about them is that they dont last. If bass is going to take your bait he will no matter if it is Yamamoto or not. I do use Yamamoto products but if the bite is on I'll use other soft plastics that work just as well and last ten times longer. It's just another brand, nothing more and are way overrated and overpriced because some people swear by them and won't use anything else.
I think they are made that way on purpose so you have to keep buying bag after bag.

this is so true.....the impregnated salt make3s them break and flake up easy......

the heads get more messed up than other other worm i have used.....

Bassinfreak2 reply :

I Have not tried them myself yet but I hear *** makes some real nice sticks that are similar to the Senkos and have similar fall rate. Might check them out. MUCH cheaper than Senkos!

Gorgebassman reply :

;D no comment

Bud reply :

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so i buy the cheaper stuff like kinami

They are no cheaper just less in the package. They are also made by GY son

Raul reply :

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imo, they are over rated. sure theyre nice...but they are expensive! if you have money, and confidence, then go ahead and use the GYCB, i however have the confidence, but not the money, so i buy the cheaper stuff like kinami and tiki stick. same great action, only half the price! one senko-type plastic that i do buy that is kinda high priced is the strike king 3x zeros. those are amazing. they are so strechy and soft and wiggly and durable. i love waky rigging, and when i do that heres what i've found: kinami last for a couple fish, tiki last for a few more, and 3x zeros last forever! they seriously never get torn up.

Kinami is the exact same bait with different name, GYBC manufactured by Gary Yamamoto, Kinami manufactured by Gary 's son Derek in pappy 's plant; they are not cheaper, the cost per unit is the same, the only difference is that Kinamis come less to a pack than GYCB.

Maxximus Redneckus reply :

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imo, they are over rated. sure theyre nice...but they are expensive! if you have money, and confidence, then go ahead and use the GYCB, i however have the confidence, but not the money, so i buy the cheaper stuff like kinami and tiki stick. same great action, only half the price! one senko-type plastic that i do buy that is kinda high priced is the strike king 3x zeros. those are amazing. they are so strechy and soft and wiggly and durable. i love waky rigging, and when i do that heres what i've found: kinami last for a couple fish, tiki last for a few more, and 3x zeros last forever! they seriously never get torn up.

I agree they last forever and if the fish are agressive nothing can beat them,I dont fish senko baits much anyhow but 6 or 7 bucks for 5 baits yikes .I use what works best for me and if they aint biting senko baits ill switch to something else or already doin it .When fish are picky i have found a razor worm works better then a stick bait anyhow ;D

Pond-Pro reply :

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SORRY TO BE THE NEW GUY THAT IS ASKING QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ANSWERED TIME AND TIME AGAIN....

i foudn the thread you were talking about....sorry

Don't worry about it!! The forums are made to be used!

burleytog reply :

Overpriced and too fragile.

berkley reply :

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imo, they are over rated. sure theyre nice...but they are expensive! if you have money, and confidence, then go ahead and use the GYCB, i however have the confidence, but not the money, so i buy the cheaper stuff like kinami and tiki stick. same great action, only half the price! one senko-type plastic that i do buy that is kinda high priced is the strike king 3x zeros. those are amazing. they are so strechy and soft and wiggly and durable. i love waky rigging, and when i do that heres what i've found: kinami last for a couple fish, tiki last for a few more, and 3x zeros last forever! they seriously never get torn up.

amen to that

Avalonjohn44 reply :

Save your money. Senkos are a gimmick. Banjo Minnows are where it's all at.

just kidding.

.dsaavedra. reply :

i know that kinami is made by GY's son. it says yamamoto enterprises on the top. i never really took the time to figure out the unit price but the main reason i get them is because they are much more common around here. only one store sells GYCB, but i can think of three off the top my head that sell kinami.

burleytog reply :

That would be Dodge. ;D

David P reply :

Yamamoto Baits are not overrated, they catch tons of fish, and work amazing.

BUT, that doesn't mean other "knock-offs" don't work JUST AS WELL..

I use ***, ***, and "Duper Flukes", and other plastics from there.. I've caught MORE fish on the ProtoType Duper Flukes then I do with the Zoom Super Flukes, AND I've caught the same amount of fish and noticed NO DIFFERENCE with the Senko style baits.. In fact, my BIGGER fish have came off of the *** version..

Not to mention, a bag of 50 for $10 is a MUCH better deal then a bag of 8 or however many for $5..

In the end, some will agree with me, and some will disagree, but honestly, it's what you feel confident with!

Go try 3-5 knock-off baits, and see what you find out. Because until you try it for yourself, it's just other people saying what THEY LIKE.

guest reply :

As an ole timer i see alot of repeat posts.

But this is one that ticks me off.

Gary Yamamoto created arguabaly the best bass catching lure of all time.

He did the research, he did the r&d, he did the testing the refining and the marketing. That all cost money guys.

Then all I hear is people whining about his baits don't hold up to more than a few fish.

I wish I could invent something that worked so well the major complaint is that is doesn't last as long as I would like.

Brent and the *** boys, have made a huge following on BassResource.com. I have used their baits and they are great, but lets not bash the guy who super inpregnated salt into plastic and revolutionized bass fishing.

He's a design and marketing genius and derserves every dime he has.

Now about those 250.00 dollar steaks.

cajun1977. reply :

great post avid

cajun1977. reply :

he charges six bucks a bag cause he can,,its a superior product to me and im willing to pay for the best if i know its gonna work

Maxximus Redneckus reply :

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As an ole timer i see alot of repeat posts.
But this is one that ticks me off.

Gary Yamamoto created arguabaly the best bass catching lure of all time.

He did the research, he did the r&d, he did the testing the refining and the marketing. That all cost money guys.

Then all I hear is people whining about his baits don't hold up to more than a few fish.

I wish I could invent something that worked so well the major complaint is that is doesn't last as long as I would like.

Brent and the *** boys, have made a huge following on BassResource.com. I have used their baits and they are great, but lets not bash the guy who super inpregnated salt into plastic and revolutionized bass fishing.

He's a design and marketing genius and derserves every dime he has.

Now about those 250.00 dollar steaks.

Actually Gene Larew invented the salt impregnated baits in 81 and also the patent

T-rig reply :

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As an ole timer i see alot of repeat posts.
But this is one that ticks me off.

Gary Yamamoto created arguabaly the best bass catching lure of all time.

He did the research, he did the r&d, he did the testing the refining and the marketing. That all cost money guys.

Then all I hear is people whining about his baits don't hold up to more than a few fish.

I wish I could invent something that worked so well the major complaint is that is doesn't last as long as I would like.

Brent and the *** boys, have made a huge following on BassResource.com. I have used their baits and they are great, but lets not bash the guy who super inpregnated salt into plastic and revolutionized bass fishing.

He's a design and marketing genius and derserves every dime he has.

So true If you cannot affort 6 bucks for a bag of bait. You are in the wrong hobbie

I dont think that people can't afford Yamamoto products but it's a pain to constantly change bait after catching 1-3 fish max.!

When I fish I want to fish and not spend time putting baits on my hook! Yamamoto products fall off the hook even without catching a single fish after so many casts. Don't get me wrong, these products work very well and I use them but in certain situations. I use the fat ika and they last longer then other Yamamoto products due to the wide body.

T-rig reply :

For those of you that like Yamamoto products you should try some of these Megabass Vios Project

softbaits which come in different shapes and sizes. These things are as soft if not softer then Yamamoto

products and last forever (almost ). They also have scent added to them.

berkley reply :

never heard of them

CK14 reply :

yamamoto products a.) fall apart easy and b.) are expensive. but are they worth it? HE11 YEAH!

.dsaavedra. reply :

does anyone know who exactly came up w/ the first soft plastic stickbait? was it GY himself? or did he "steal" it from someone else? i'd like to know.

i cant afford GYCB lures. i just cant. so therefore, i like to buy the otherstuff. imo they work just as well, and alot of times you can get more baits for a lower price. i say its all about confidence and money. use what you like, and what you can afford.

and face it...ALL SOFT PLASTICS GET TORN UP!!!!! its a part of life. the ONLY softplastic bait i have found that doesnt get torn up after several fish is the strike king 3x. thast because they are so strechy that they dont rip, they just...strech.

mattm reply :

I think that slug-gos advertise on their package that they are the first horizontal falling worm(essentially a stick bait). Not sure if this is true though.

Pintail55 reply :

Everything is expensive, get used to it!!! I love Yamamoto baits they are my confidence and go to for everything bait. I usally only get to fish hard on the weekends so to me why would I fish high priced equipment a nice boat and gear and not throw the best. The bait is acually the thing that catches fish so I'm going to throw what I BELIEVE to be the best. There are other good soft plastics out there, I've even bought a pack of 50 hand poured sticks from ebay for $15, they fish good and look just like yammy's but I don't feel as cofident with them.

This morning I went out and caught 20 fish in 2 hours most over 2 1/2 largest being right at 5, and I went through a whole pack of creatures 3 sticks and 4 ikas, was the money well spent HECK YES it was. Just one mans opinion

phase5supply reply :

They are the best I have used, they are soft, that is what makes the work so well. I have found rigging them from the head first then after it tears rig from the tail and then rig it wacky you can use it longer and catch more fish on them. For the fish they produce I feel like they are a great value a 6 bucks a pack. 3 fish per bait, 10 baits per pack= 30 fish divided by $6.00 = .50 cents per fish, WOW what a bargain!

Jeff H reply :

Revolutionized Bass fishing?? Holy geez....I wouldn't extend the guy THAT much credit.

flukester reply :

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Iv been using Yamamota for soft plastics....thats all i use....
i just got some Kreatures, but havnt fished them yet, im excited,

but anyway.....

How do you guys compare Yamamoto vs others????such as tiki, ect?

are they worth the money? or am i just as good with someother senko-like worms???

July issue of FLW outdoors has a product review on soft stickbaits! Good review too, your question will be answered!

Short question- is Yamamoto plastics overrated???

THANKS

galv reply :

i've been using the strike king shaw's pro series 5" salty stick recently. i think they are most like senkos out of all the many stick baits i've tried and are relatively inexpensive. just doing a quick internet search, i can't really find much information about them, so maybe they don't make them anymore. wish i'd known i'd like them so much. i would have bought a lot more last time i stocked up on baits.

i've also been using tiki sticks, yum dingers, mann's hardnose. maybe the senkos are the best but i've caught good fish with all of the knockoffs as well.

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Actually Gene Larew invented the salt impregnated baits in 81 and also the patent

Yes, he did. All Kudo's (and royalties) to Mr. Larew.

But he didn't realize the potential of his invention. He added a little salt for flavor, but it was Gary Y. who saturated the plastic with salt and gave it a completely different action. It is why Gary Yamamoto baits are well known to all bassers and Larew's to a relative few.

Revolutionize the industry is too much credit?

Not IMHO. The senko casts easily on any equipment, will draw strikes when nothing else works, and if wacky rigged with a circle or octopus hook can be put in the hands of a 5 year old and he/she can catch bass.

I ask you. How many "knock off" companies were out there before GYCB?

Why are his baits the first ones the knock off companies feature?

You may think his stuff is too expensive and that the knock offs are just as good.

Fine, but please do not bash the man.

His accomplishments have earned him our respect.

Avid has spoken

The Next KVD reply :

If u can afford them use yamamoto. The action is just soooooooooo much better than other brands because of the softer plastic and salt content.

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

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If u can afford them use yamamoto. The action is just soooooooooo much better than other brands because of the softer plastic and salt content.

Not in my fishtank and not in the neighbors pool, must be the water you're throwing in

And I understand how larger size salt can make them rip much quicker but I don't see where this is relevant to "action"

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And I understand how larger size salt can make them rip much quicker but I don't see where this is relevant to "action"

At the risk of sounding rude, this thread is beginning to turn into nonesense. Let's put all brand loyalties and personal friendships aside for a moment ok?

"Knock offs" are, by definition copies of someone else's design.

They have to be cheaper or who would buy them?

As far as the salt issue.......Russ...do you really think Gary Y. is paying all those manufacturing dollars and royalties to build a product that falls apart quickly but has no inherent benefits?

Is that how he got to be a household name in the fishing industry?

C'mon guys. Let's get real.

Like I said before. the knockoffs are definitly cheaper and are fine baits. Use them with confidence.

I certainly do.

But let's not forget that they owe their existance to guys like Gary Y. the designers at reactions innovations, zoom and other name brand manufacturers who had the creativity, courage, and resources to develop the innovative products the knock off companies so proudly and profitably try to imitate.

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

I hear where you're coming from Avid and I give tons of credit to GYCB for MANY innovative products they have brought to our arsenals. I do however think it is a business decision to use larger salt crystals. They tear quicker which .....

a. gives the appearance they are even softer than they already are and yes, they are softer than a knock off,IMO but I think the difference is minimal to non factoring (This is a fish that eats many bony, spiny and shelled critters)

b. Requires often replacement.

I think it is a $$ making decision. Not judging it, just not supporting it. This has nothing to do w/ the loyalty to the baits I DO use, it's merely the reason I first sought them out.

Jeff H reply :

What are you guys going to argue about when you step inside the pearly gates? I have this notion that the big tackle shop in the sky is a HUGE place with tons of different baits to pick from but none have any labeling. What are you gonna do then? ;D

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

Well,...I'm assuming there will be a big 'ol lake there too...... All those new lures,......LOTS to "Discuss"!!

Maxximus Redneckus reply :

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Well,...I'm assuming there will be a big 'ol lake there too...... All those new lures,......LOTS to "Discuss"!!

Ya magnesium Garcia's that weigh 2 oz and ugly sticks that weigh 1 oz and Hair size braid with 100 lb test strength and is invisible we all have something to look forward to yeeeehawwwwwwww

burleytog reply :

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Revolutionized Bass fishing?? Holy geez....I wouldn't extend the guy THAT much credit.

Revolutionized it for dinkmasters. There are many many out there who do nothing but dunk soft stickbaits all day long.

Maxximus Redneckus reply :

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So true If you cannot affort 6 bucks for a bag of bait. You are in the wrong hobbie

There is a certain amount of arrogance and elitisim to this remark I can afford 3 dollars a bag to fish, why do i need to give up fishing. i work lioke everyone else , I am puttin myself through collegwe, as well as my daughter. Why do i need 6 dollars a bag to blow off steam and enjoying fishing. WHAT A STATEMENT TO MAKE you are dissmissing many working fellas who also fish.

Yup muddy i can catch bass with 3 dollar baits or 50 cent clearance ones dont matter to me .I use what is workin i dont need baits at 6 bucks a bag to catch fish . NO OFFENSE but if he thinks u can only catch bass with 6 dollar a bag baits i think he is in the wrong hobbie ;D

berkley reply :

i just think there expensive and tear up real easy

and i think strike king zeros are way better for 3 reasons

a.. dont cost near as much

b.. dont tear up and lead you to by more

c.. CATCH FISH

dodgeguy reply :

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Revolutionized Bass fishing?? Holy geez....I wouldn't extend the guy THAT much credit.

Revolutionized it for dinkmasters. There are many many out there who do nothing but dunk soft stickbaits all day long.

i have caught many 5 lbers on senkos.hey dudes,if you want to cut your senko cost down then wacky rig them with bill m's wacky rig tool.the bait slides up your line on the hookset and you get 5-10 fish per bait.

http://www.wackytool.com/

Low_Budget_Hooker reply :

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As an ole timer i see alot of repeat posts.
But this is one that ticks me off.

Gary Yamamoto created arguabaly the best bass catching lure of all time.

He did the research, he did the r&d, he did the testing the refining and the marketing. That all cost money guys.

Then all I hear is people whining about his baits don't hold up to more than a few fish.

I wish I could invent something that worked so well the major complaint is that is doesn't last as long as I would like.

Brent and the *** boys, have made a huge following on BassResource.com. I have used their baits and they are great, but lets not bash the guy who super inpregnated salt into plastic and revolutionized bass fishing.

He's a design and marketing genius and derserves every dime he has.

So true If you cannot affort 6 bucks for a bag of bait. You are in the wrong hobbie

Problem is,....I actually catch. $6/bag may be fine for you if you fish twice a month and catch 2 fish each time. We've gone through over 400 sticks so far this yr. Do the math. If the baits I use ripped as easily as a GYCB, that number would be even higher. Now I'm not poor, but I am kind of offended that you think if I can't afford the over-priced baits, I shouldn't be in the game because, quite frankly, I get my confidence from the fish I catch, not the price tag on the bag.

Like it says above, if you only have confidence in the $$$ baits, perhaps YOU are in the wrong hobby.

MOST people get into fishing BECAUSE it is a low cost form of outdoor recreation, I'm sure many of them might find your comment offensive as well.

Let me put it this way, I make enough money to be able to afford to pay $5 for a gallon of gas, but if the $3/gallon get me to the party,....why on Earth would I pay $5?? This is about common sense, not economic stature.

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I do however think it is a business decision to use larger salt crystals.

My apologies to you Sir Brown. When you said "salt size" I misunderstood it to mean the amount of salt that he added to the bait. I have no opinion on the size of the salt crystals. I only know that when I lived in NY the bigger the salt crystals the faster the ice on my stoop melted.

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What are you guys going to argue about when you step inside the pearly gates? I have this notion that the big tackle shop in the sky is a HUGE place with tons of different baits to pick from but none have any labeling. What are you gonna do then? ;D

I dunno but you can bet I'll find that Perry guy from Georgia and get the real skinny on his WR largemouth

OH NO.......DID I REALLY OPEN UP THIS CAN OF WORMS AGAIN

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Revolutionized Bass fishing?? Holy geez....I wouldn't extend the guy THAT much credit.

Revolutionized it for dinkmasters. There are many many out there who do nothing but dunk soft stickbaits all day long.

You forget he also invented the fat ika.......a dink bait? I don't think so.

PS> try moving up to 6 and 7 inch senko's.

I don't understand why people bash GY so much. I really don't.

Trust me on this one.

I have it on very good authority that he did not attack Pearl Harbour

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So true If you cannot affort 6 bucks for a bag of bait. You are in the wrong hobbie

There is a certain amount of arrogance and elitisim to this remark I can afford 3 dollars a bag to fish, why do i need to give up fishing. i work lioke everyone else , I am puttin myself through collegwe, as well as my daughter. Why do i need 6 dollars a bag to blow off steam and enjoying fishing. WHAT A STATEMENT TO MAKE you are dissmissing many working fellas who also fish.

Give me a row boat, a cane pole, and a bucket of freshly netted shiners and I'll outfish anyone with a $50,000 bass boat, 10 JDM rods and 50 lbs of tackle 9 days out of 10.

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i just think there expensive and tear up real easy
and i think strike king zeros are way better for 3 reasons

a.. dont cost near as much

b.. dont tear up and lead you to by more

c.. CATCH FISH

You left out one very important quality.

They melt into the prettiest puddles of multicolored goo I have ever seen ;D

guest reply :

WOW AN AVID STICKY

mattm reply :

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As an ole timer i see alot of repeat posts.
But this is one that ticks me off.

Gary Yamamoto created arguabaly the best bass catching lure of all time.

He did the research, he did the r&d, he did the testing the refining and the marketing. That all cost money guys.

Then all I hear is people whining about his baits don't hold up to more than a few fish.

I wish I could invent something that worked so well the major complaint is that is doesn't last as long as I would like.

Brent and the *** boys, have made a huge following on BassResource.com. I have used their baits and they are great, but lets not bash the guy who super inpregnated salt into plastic and revolutionized bass fishing.

He's a design and marketing genius and derserves every dime he has.

So true If you cannot affort 6 bucks for a bag of bait. You are in the wrong hobbie

Problem is,....I actually catch. $6/bag may be fine for you if you fish twice a month and catch 2 fish each time. We've gone through over 400 sticks so far this yr. Do the math. If the baits I use ripped as easily as a GYCB, that number would be even higher. Now I'm not poor, but I am kind of offended that you think if I can't afford the over-priced baits, I shouldn't be in the game because, quite frankly, I get my confidence from the fish I catch, not the price tag on the bag.

Like it says above, if you only have confidence in the $$$ baits, perhaps YOU are in the wrong hobby.

MOST people get into fishing BECAUSE it is a low cost form of outdoor recreation, I'm sure many of them might find your comment offensive as well.

Let me put it this way, I make enough money to be able to afford to pay $5 for a gallon of gas, but if the $3/gallon get me to the party,....why on Earth would I pay $5?? This is about common sense, not economic stature.

Posted by: dodgeguy Post

Amen, LBH.

Del from philly reply :

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Give me a row boat, a cane pole, and a bucket of freshly netted shiners and I'll outfish anyone with a $50,000 bass boat, 10 JDM rods and 50 lbs of tackle 9 days out of 10.

Roger

i dont know, using live bait is a different animal......

the funnest part of freshwater fishing is the lure, the illusion, and the art......the trickery.....

using live bait takes all this away....

guest reply :

I fish artificals heavy but I still love throwing shiners, craw dads and nightcrawlers once in a while

REMINDS ME WHEN I WAS A KID AND FISHIN WAS JUST FISHIN 8-)

BAIT FISHING DOEN'T MAKE ANYONE LESS OF A FISHERMAN anyone who buys that just ain't right

d.hark reply :

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Give me a row boat, a cane pole, and a bucket of freshly netted shiners and I'll outfish anyone with a $50,000 bass boat, 10 JDM rods and 50 lbs of tackle 9 days out of 10.

Roger

i dont know, using live bait is a different animal......

the funnest part of freshwater fishing is the lure, the illusion, and the art......the trickery.....

using live bait takes all this away....

yep!! Its cheating if you ask me > But back to the subject at hand. I do agree the GY are expensive. Personally I have been having great success with Tiki sticks. I gues its personall preferance and confidence in what you buy and use

roadwarrior reply :

Jeez guys...

Personal attacks are NOT warranted and WILL BE (have been) DELETED.

Glenn reply :

Ok guys, time to take a breather. This thread is going nowhere fast. Seems it all boils down to personal preference.

If you have nothing new, positive, and uniquely insightful to add to this thread, then let it rest.

guest reply :

10-4 Glenn and RW I even pulled some of mine that are going nowhere, i ain't gonna change anyone anyhow, just me 8-)

MarVaBC reply :

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i cant afford GYCB lures. i just cant. so therefore, i like to buy the otherstuff. imo they work just as well, and alot of times you can get more baits for a lower price. i say its all about confidence and money. use what you like, and what you can afford.

Just to clarify to this gentleman....you can afford GYCB, in fact you pay more for its cousin KINAMI, as you said in your first thread.

See below - prices quoted from the Bass Pro website for 4 and 5 inch baits.

GYCB Senko

$5.99

10 per bag

60 cents each

KINAMI Flash

$4.49

7 per bag

65 cents each

guest reply :

I like this math a whole lot better ;D

*** bag of 25 is 6.00 bucks thats .24 cents each

MarVaBC reply :

Thats real nice....haven't tried those but they look good on the web site (cool colors). When they had the spring sale, I got some of the BPS stik-o for real cheap ($3.33 per 20)...and they have been catching them real well rigged wacky. That style of rigging tends to get shook off the hook on every fish, so going through them is kind of easy. So far the stik-o has been a good alternative..and 1/3 the price of Yammies, its not too bad.

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I like this math a whole lot better ;D
*** bag of 25 is 6.00 bucks thats .24 cents each

I thought Brooklyn guys only bought stuff that "fell off the back of a truck"

FishTank reply :

I have been trying to follow this discusion since I tend to fish GYCB most of the time and no I have not tried *** yet but I will soon. I have been able to get Senkos and sometimes Fat Ikas for $3.20 a pack. At that price I can't turn them down. I could fish anything I want with in a $3.00 to $4.00 price and still be, IMHO, affordable. I choose to fish the Senkos just because they work. I have yet to find their equal, only imatations. So when I do the math that's .32 cents a piece.

SPEEDBEAD. reply :

Thats good stuff right there..... :

ROCKETRICEFARMER reply :

i SAVE ALL MY SENKOS AND WHEN THEY GET TORN UP I PUT THEM IN A BAG BEFORE I LOZE THEM. WHEN I HAVE A BUNCH SAVED I SUPER GLUE THE RIPPS TOGETHER. BE NEAT WITH IT ONLY USE AS MUCH GLUE AS YOU NEED . THEN WHEN YOUR LOW ON FUNDS OR BRING A FRIEND OUT USE THE GLUED UP SENKOS.

guest reply :

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU FELLAS; But when i am taking a friend orespecially a newbee out I try to give them the best I have and put them on fish.I have lots of time to fish on my own!

ROCKETRICEFARMER reply :

i AM NOT SURE WHAT YOUR TRYING TO SAY BUT THAT WASN'T REALLY THE POINT OF MY POST. i STILL PUT THEM ON THE FISH. BUT NEWBIES STILL TEND TO CAST INTO TREESS AND HAVE MORE TANGLES AND SNAGES. TO ME THEY STILL CATCH FISH. STICK WITH THE TOPIC

SPEEDBEAD. reply :

Chill, new guy.....

I am glad you keep your stuff and give it to others, thats great. Muddy is being himself, thats great too. Get to know him a little bit, you will see what I mean....

Wayne

ROCKETRICEFARMER reply :

YOUR MISSING THE POINT TOO. IT'S NOT ABOUT SAVING ME SENKOS TO SHARE! i WILL TAKE THE TIME TO GET TO KNOW MUDDY. I ASKED HIM WHAT HE MENT TO FIND OUT HOW I SHOULD FEEL. SO I WAS WAITING FOR A REPLY BY MUDDY. PEOPLE WERE POSTING THAT SENKOS WERE EXSPENSIVE AND THEY DON'T LAST LONG. i WAS LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THEIR OPTIONS IF THEY WANT TO BE FRUGAL. THAT WAS WHAT I WANTED TO SAY MAYBE THATS ALL I SHOULD POST. i WAS TRYING NOT TO BE BLUNT I WANTED PEOPLE TO THINK OF OTHER REASONS WHY GLUEING THE SENKOS MIGHT BE GOOD BY STATEING WHY ITS GOOD TO ME. NOW I'LL CHILL BRO

SPEEDBEAD. reply :

<---- Now chilling as well. No blood, no foul.....

Wayne

basscat73 reply :

Welcome aboard Rocket!

Many people think typing in ALL CAPS is considered YELLING. May or may not be true. For sure though, it's more difficult to read when paragraphs are typed in ALL CAPS.

Just an FYI

P.S. Your idea of supergluing senkos for newbie fishermen is a pretty good one!

ROCKETRICEFARMER reply :

Thanks for the heads up. I wasn'ty aware of that. I'm using my computer at work the program i use only reads caps. so to save time going between the two i leave the caps on. I guess i do need to chill a bit. I respect that. -Keith

CyBasser reply :

Hmmmmmmmm,

I have been watching this thread quietly and is so interesting to see all the different opinions regarding the pros/cons of GYCB vs the "others" (I would rather not use the word "knock-off").... Well, here is another point of view (which actually has been stated before in this thread) but from the angle of someone who has not as readily access to all the goodies described above because of living about 4000 miles away from the majority of the people in this forum....

I happen to live on the Mediterranean island of Cyprus, which is privileged with some nice (sometimes fantastic) largemouth bass fishing. The downside of the coin is that the lure selection in regards of soft plastics available off-the-shelf here in stores is very limited. As a result, the terms "cheaper" and "value for money" get a different meaning.

The only two brands of soft plastics available in stores here are Berkley and GYCB - and even then not the whole lines of lures (for example, we don't have the beast or the kreature) or the whole range of colors. Yet, thanks to the internet, we can order practically everything from the US - but as a result, what might be cheaper in the US ends up being more expensive here (shipping, customs, etc).

Regarding stickbaits, I have used and still use the following: GYCB senko, Yum Dinger, ***. My first batch of Tiki stickworms is also on its way.

For me GYCB is by far the cheapest. So yes, I tend to use them more than the other brands. Do they work nice? You bet they do! Where did I catch my second best largemouth? On an ***. Do the Yum Dinger work? I ran out of my first batch of dingers before I even realized it thanks to mr largemouth.

Do I have confidence in them? Yes, I do have lots of confidence in all three brands. I usually have all three with me on each outing. What do I use? Whichever I decide at that particular moment, though (surprise!) I tend to use senkos more because they are readily available to me and they end up being cheaper for me even with their high rate of destruction!

Do I notice any other differences? Surely, they all sink in very slightly different rates, but then a change of the type or size of hook can still make them exactly similar in that respect!

So, I think it's really irrelevant to argue that one brand is absolutely better than the others. It is up to the individual angler to decide what is best for him/her. And I believe it is up to the angler to make the stickworm (of whichever brand) to appeal to the bass. I fully understand that certain anglers (whether pro or pleasure ones) do stick to a particular brand because of sponsorship or personal confidence. But, as far as I am concerned, they all work the same - and hey - let's not give the bass themselves more credit in respect of preference than they really deserve. Even in highly pressured waters I really doubt that the bass which see in front of them the tantalizing sink of a stickbait think "Oh, this is senko, the other is dinger, senko is better I'll get that" or v.v. This may be true with some lure types to some extend, but there is no way it happens with the stickbaits!

It all boils down to personal preferences, confidence, and individual economics. So let's all enjoy the stick lures which we prefer and let the manufacturers (don't take this personal Brent, you have made an excellent stickbait!) figure out how to "beat" the competition and make even better lures for us end-users!

Tight lines!

guest reply :

Hey Rocket: I ain't taking anything personal so please don't either ;D

I take a lot of guys fishing for the first time, so I have a routine and I stick to it. I always give them the best I have, it makes them see the possibilities. The smiles you get are worth more than 4 bucks stuck in trees 8-)

cajun1977. reply :

good post cybasser, ive got no problems with using the cheaper knockoffs i just prefer gycb cause im loyal to his product.if i had started fishing yum dingers and caught with them then i would buy them all up but i didnt so i stock up on gycb.he has earned my trust in a quality product and now i am a loyal customer. its a confidence thing and a loyalty thing for me

ROCKETRICEFARMER reply :

muddy I respect what your saying and can agree with it as well. I just wasn't trying to make that the point of my post. It was more of a way to recycle your senkos and save money. I threw an idea out and wanted to see if i got any feed back.

I started out with senkos and i'm confident in their ability to catch fish. I also like to catch fish with other baits too. I am going to order a few bags from *.com because they had some colors i like and there prices are low. If i like them it's a huge save in the long run.

CyBasser reply :

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nothing personal here. sounds like one of the most honest, unbiased posts i've heard in a while. Seems fairly easy to infer that had one of the brands of stickbaits had a significant cost break (say, if you lived in the U.S. and could get the full variety) then you would probably be more likely to take advantage of that. 8-) again, great writing.
brent

Thanks Brent!

CyBasser reply :

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good post cybasser, ive got no problems with using the cheaper knockoffs i just prefer gycb cause im loyal to his product.if i had started fishing yum dingers and caught with them then i would buy them all up but i didnt so i stock up on gycb.he has earned my trust in a quality product and now i am a loyal customer. its a confidence thing and a loyalty thing for me

Thanks Cajun!

I fully understand the loyalty issue. I do tend to be loyal to certain brands in respect of particular bits and pieces of my tackle, and actually being loyal significantly increases the confidence factor. Yet, on the other hand, I am always willing to try something new, sometimes a small detail might make the difference. It has happenned to me with lipless crankbaits - I tried several different models from several manufacturers through the years, with no bias to any single one of them. Two models (both from the same company) have been producing so well for me though (compared to all the other ones I tried) that more or less I am now "loyal" to the company and the particular models. Yes, I do try other new lipless models I might run into, but there is now the inevitable "comparison" thing, and for more than a year I have remained loyal to these particular brand and models.... I guess this is all part of the great attraction of bass fishing....

T-rig reply :

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good post cybasser, ive got no problems with using the cheaper knockoffs i just prefer gycb cause im loyal to his product.if i had started fishing yum dingers and caught with them then i would buy them all up but i didnt so i stock up on gycb.he has earned my trust in a quality product and now i am a loyal customer. its a confidence thing and a loyalty thing for me

Thanks Cajun!

I fully understand the loyalty issue. I do tend to be loyal to certain brands in respect of particular bits and pieces of my tackle, and actually being loyal significantly increases the confidence factor. Yet, on the other hand, I am always willing to try something new, sometimes a small detail might make the difference. It has happenned to me with lipless crankbaits - I tried several different models from several manufacturers through the years, with no bias to any single one of them. Two models (both from the same company) have been producing so well for me though (compared to all the other ones I tried) that more or less I am now "loyal" to the company and the particular models. Yes, I do try other new lipless models I might run into, but there is now the inevitable "comparison" thing, and for more than a year I have remained loyal to these particular brand and models.... I guess this is all part of the great attraction of bass fishing....

I bet you're talking about Lucky Craft lipless cranks! Great post by the way!

CyBasser reply :

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I bet you're talking about Lucky Craft lipless cranks! Great post by the way!

Hi Daniel,

Thanks for your comment! And, hmmm, nope, I am not talking about LC...

SPEEDBEAD. reply :

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muddy I respect what your saying and can agree with it as well. I just wasn't trying to make that the point of my post. It was more of a way to recycle your senkos and save money. I threw an idea out and wanted to see if i got any feed back.

I got your point now....Again, my mistake. You are right, that is a great way to save your baits and make the most of them. You may do this also already, but save the ripped up texas rigged ones and use them wacky rigged. Definitely extends the life of each bait and increases the fish per bait ratio.

Welcome aboard.

Wayne

Maxximus Redneckus reply :

loyalty is good im very loyal to Manns i caught my personal best 10.4 oz here in maryland 1985 .But i dont just use manns baits i use what works its a lot more fun catching bass then wondering if,,,, GYCB ,tom Mann, creme, lauri rapala, etc,, etc ,, Are pi??ed im not using there baits 8-)

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