Why Lc Pointers And Megabass Jerkbaits? 2024
katmandew reply :
I'm curious as to why people choose the $15-$25 jerk baits as opposed to the cheaper Smithwick Rattlin Rogues. Had a guy tell me he only fished pointers because they worked so much better, but didn't specifically cite any major differences in the action of the bait. What do those more expensive jerk baits do that the cheaper Rogues don't?
Stingray23 reply :
They have a prettier finish. lol
PondBoss reply :
It's not as much fun to tell someone you caught a huge sack of fish with a $5 bait.
Bass Junkie reply :
They tend to be much better casting baits, suspend more consistently, come with better stock hardware, and a greater variety of stock color patterns. The Megabass especially are also works of art. Plus, you just feel better throwing one, until you lose it 
FloridaBassDude reply :
Pointers are like Senkos almost, you can buy something that looks the EXACT same for a lot cheaper, but for some reason they just work better than the cheaper brands. No explanation, it's just one of those things.
Although, I have bought a 5 pack of worms that imitated Senkos for 48 cents, and they worked perfectly.
I also use Smithwick Rattlin Rouges, and they work just fine!
Bass Dude reply :
I throw all brands of stickbaits and they all have their place. The main reason I like the LC's and Megabass is the castability. Trying to throw a Rogue in the wind is nearly impossible. The stock hooks are better too in the expensive lures, but I change them out anyway so that doesn't matter. The finish looks better, but I've noticed the LC finish isn't very durable.
Blue Streak reply :
I believe the Pointer is the one expensive bait that is really worth the price. For me there is not another jerk bait that even comes close , they just out perform any other and I am not sure why.
roadwarrior reply :
On 3/19/2013 at 6:55 PM, Bass Junkie said:They tend to be much better casting baits, suspend more consistently, come with better stock hardware, and a greater variety of stock color patterns. The Megabass especially are also works of art. Plus, you just feel better throwing one, until you lose it
What he said! 
ColdSVT reply :
On 3/19/2013 at 7:46 PM, Bass Dude said:I throw all brands of stickbaits and they all have their place. The main reason I like the LC's and Megabass is the castability. Trying to throw a Rogue in the wind is nearly impossible. The stock hooks are better too in the expensive lures, but I change them out anyway so that doesn't matter. The finish looks better, but I've noticed the LC finish isn't very durable.
this!
I like the slender pointer the best in ghost minnow. the 78 in female bluegill is like a bass french fry!
J Francho reply :
I fish them all. Rogues are a different bait altogether. They have a specific body roll that other baits do not have. Likewise, a Pointer has a walking side to side action others do not have. The Vision 110 does the walk, then goes head down, nad very slowly rises. Three baits, three different actions. Fish what works that day.
Primus reply :
On 3/19/2013 at 10:35 PM, J Francho said:I fish them all. Rogues are a different bait altogether. They have a specific body roll that other baits do not have. Likewise, a Pointer has a walking side to side action others do not have. The Vision 110 does the walk, then goes head down, nad very slowly rises. Three baits, three different actions. Fish what works that day.
Good answer, they are tools and they have different attributes that make them excel under certain conditions. More than any category of lures preferred jerkbaits can change day to day, it's one of those things that you have to experiment with each day. You can catch plenty of fish with Husky Jerks and Roques and at certain times these will outfish the premium Japanese baits. That said more often than not the Ima Flit, Megabass , Jackall and especially the Lucky Craft jerkbaits will outfish the Husky Jerks & Roques in my opinion.
J Francho reply :
Suspending Rogues came out at a time when there were very few other baits that worked like this. There are a lot of things you can do to customize their action. As the evolution of suspended baits continued, specific actions were starting to get built into the baits. Also, advanced weighting features helped in casting these lighter baits in the windy conditions where they often excel. As these actions became more specific, certain baits began to emerge as favorites. Baits like 110's , Ponters, Flash Minnows, etc. have some pretty advanced designs, and the consistency in these baits is bar none. That costs. You want that specific action, and pike eats your lure, you can grab another one, and it will behave the same way. You'd have re engineer all your dots and strips, and bigger hooks/split rings, etc. to get that back again with a Rogue. That R&D and manufacturing costs, hence the higher price.
All that said, there's nothing like the roll of a Rogue in cold water. It's as valid as it was in the 90s. I caught so many fish on it.
gripnrip reply :
Bingo! FLW's issue for April has a excellet article about explaining actions on the above listed jerkbaits and a handful more as well.On 3/19/2013 at 10:35 PM, J Francho said:I fish them all. Rogues are a different bait altogether. They have a specific body roll that other baits do not have. Likewise, a Pointer has a walking side to side action others do not have. The Vision 110 does the walk, then goes head down, nad very slowly rises. Three baits, three different actions. Fish what works that day.
BassWhole! reply :
On 3/19/2013 at 11:23 PM, J Francho said:Suspending Rogues came out at a time when there were very few other baits that worked like this. There are a lot of things you can do to customize their action. As the evolution of suspended baits continued, specific actions were starting to get built into the baits. Also, advanced weighting features helped in casting these lighter baits in the windy conditions where they often excel. As these actions became more specific, certain baits began to emerge as favorites. Baits like 110's , Ponters, Flash Minnows, etc. have some pretty advanced designs, and the consistency in these baits is bar none. That costs. You want that specific action, and pike eats your lure, you can grab another one, and it will behave the same way. You'd have re engineer all your dots and strips, and bigger hooks/split rings, etc. to get that back again with a Rogue. That R&D and manufacturing costs, hence the higher price.
All that said, there's nothing like the roll of a Rogue in cold water. It's as valid as it was in the 90s. I caught so many fish on it.
Well said, I think the major thing you buy from the premium japanese baits is consistency and quality components. I like the Vision 110 and the LC Pointer a lot, but they are not what I reach for first in really cold conditions.
MCS reply :
I used to poop poop expensive baits, still hate the expensive soft plastics, but I bought an LC a few months back and I have got to say its finish and quality are sooo worth it. Runs perfect and sharp hooks out of the package makes me want more! I must say RW was right about this one lol
deaknh03 reply :
My new favorite..
http://www.***.com/Duo_Realis_Jerkbait_120SP/descpage-DUOJK12.html
PABASS reply :
These are a hard sell for me as a bank beater since I get hung allot and typically loose the bait when I do. If I owned a boat that may be another story and they do look reel nice but are they worth the money? I have read that where these baits come out on top is super clear water..
J Francho reply :
QuoteI have read that where these baits come out on top is super clear water..
Misnomer. All jerkbaits work well in a variety of water.
PABASS reply :
On 3/20/2013 at 4:13 AM, J Francho said:Misnomer. All jerkbaits work well in a variety of water.
Not jerkbaits in general but the LC and Megabass and as the pro called them Japaneses style jerkbaits..
Bass Junkie reply :
On 3/20/2013 at 4:23 AM, PABASS said:Not jerkbaits in general but the LC and Megabass and as the pro called them Japaneses style jerkbaits..
On the contrary, quite a few domestic jerkbaits will work in muddy water...
J Francho reply :
OK, misnomer. Japanese style jerkbaits work in many water colors.
PABASS reply :
O boy, forums, people all I am saying is that when fishing clear water this pro said he likes the LC and Megabass better than the cheaper jerkbaits, period end of story, I don't use them cant speak for them.. I use cheaper models in all types of water conditions ALL YEAR ROUND lol, they for many years where my go to bait...
J Francho reply :
What do you mean "forums"? You want the straight poop, or should put on my jersey and pimp what I want you to buy? That pro likes it that way. Whatever. They all work at different times. The fish, not the water, decides what it wants to bite.
katmandew reply :
Good info. Thanks for all the input. The body of water this guy was on is usually gin clear, so maybe that's why he liked the pointer. I may have to try it out. Don't think I can swing $50 for 2 megabass jerkbaits tho, and I wont buy just one because they will bite it for sure and then I'll lose it and be stuck out there without one. lol
MCS reply :
On 3/20/2013 at 4:11 AM, PABASS said:These are a hard sell for me as a bank beater since I get hung allot and typically loose the bait when I do. If I owned a boat that may be another story and they do look reel nice but are they worth the money? I have read that where these baits come out on top is super clear water..
Look at the Lucky Craft Spazz. It one on my list. I fish from shore, 3-5 feet is max but 3 foot n up you should have no problems.
robdob reply :
On 3/20/2013 at 7:37 AM, katmandew said:Good info. Thanks for all the input. The body of water this guy was on is usually gin clear, so maybe that's why he liked the pointer. I may have to try it out. Don't think I can swing $50 for 2 megabass jerkbaits tho, and I wont buy just one because they will bite it for sure and then I'll lose it and be stuck out there without one. lol
If you want a megabass jerkbait but don't want to spend 25 bucks buy a luck-e-strike RC stk. its the exact same thing except it has cheap weak split rings and crappy hooks. put new split rings and hooks on it and you have yourself a 25 dollar jerkbait. Someone with more money than brains will probably chime in and say how megasbass is so much better but they are not.
Hooligan reply :
I don't have more money than brains, but the two are not the exact same. The weight transfer is much better on Megabass, the finish is much better, and the overall balance is better. The action of the baits are similar, but the STX has much more yaw, and the Vision is more consistent in action. As well, the STX is variable in terms of suspending. Some float, some sink, some suspend. I went through 30 baits to find five that worked well. I can count on every single Megabass working perfect every time.On 3/20/2013 at 9:40 AM, robdob said:If you want a megabass jerkbait but don't want to spend 25 bucks buy a luck-e-strike RC stk. its the exact same thing except it has cheap weak split rings and crappy hooks. put new split rings and hooks on it and you have yourself a 25 dollar jerkbait. Someone with more money than brains will probably chime in and say how megasbass is so much better but they are not.
The difference between the two are very apparent, and they're quite major in the function of the baits. Both have their applications, and both are viable baits. To say they are the exact same, however, is patently false.
Maico1 reply :
On 3/20/2013 at 10:56 AM, Hooligan said:I don't have more money than brains, but the two are not the exact same. The weight transfer is much better on Megabass, the finish is much better, and the overall balance is better. The action of the baits are similar, but the STX has much more yaw, and the Vision is more consistent in action. As well, the STX is variable in terms of suspending. Some float, some sink, some suspend. I went through 30 baits to find five that worked well. I can count on every single Megabass working perfect every time.
The difference between the two are very apparent, and they're quite major in the function of the baits. Both have their applications, and both are viable baits. To say they are the exact same, however, is patently false.
Very well said, it always amazes me that people can not see the difference provided they use them. With that being said I thought this article may add little insight on the 110 and some interesting tid-bits on the Katsuage hooks......
http://tackletour.com/reviewvision110blueprint.html
Comfortably Numb reply :
The luck-e-strike RC stx split ring prob has been fixed.
Bluebasser86 reply :
You're getting better consistency and better quality baits like others have said but there is usually going to be slight differences in action also. Might now even be something that you can notice but there will be times that fish notice the differences. Pointers are the most consistent perfect suspending bait out of the box that I've found. It's worth it to me to be able to take them out of the box and fish instead of having to try to weight them right before I can fish them.
robdob reply :
On 3/20/2013 at 10:56 AM, Hooligan said:I don't have more money than brains, but the two are not the exact same. The weight transfer is much better on Megabass, the finish is much better, and the overall balance is better. The action of the baits are similar, but the STX has much more yaw, and the Vision is more consistent in action. As well, the STX is variable in terms of suspending. Some float, some sink, some suspend. I went through 30 baits to find five that worked well. I can count on every single Megabass working perfect every time.
The difference between the two are very apparent, and they're quite major in the function of the baits. Both have their applications, and both are viable baits. To say they are the exact same, however, is patently false.
The early runs of them were variable I'll give you that. The first 5 I bought were all junk. The past 3 or 4 I have bought are great. As to the split ring problem being fixed, I don't think so. The newest ones I have suspend perfect and have great action but i can take a pair of pliers and pull the hooks right off and straighten the split rings with no problem at all. they may be stronger than the original split rings they put on them but they are still nowhere near what a normal quality bait comes with.
robdob reply :
On 3/20/2013 at 11:28 AM, Maico1 said:Very well said, it always amazes me that people can not see the difference provided they use them. With that being said I thought this article may add little insight on the 110 and some interesting tid-bits on the Katsuage hooks......
http://tackletour.com/reviewvision110blueprint.html
So let me ask you this. When is the last time you used an RC stk. Most of the people criticizing them have never had one tied on. Watch the bassmasters classic and look closely at the "megabass" jerkbaits everyone has tied on, Those guys make a living fishing and its about a 60/40 split megasbass to rc stk on their rods.
The Young Gun reply :
Is the x-rap a good jerkbait?
J Francho reply :
On 3/20/2013 at 8:24 PM, The Young Gun said:Is the x-rap a good jerkbait?
They're decent baits, come with good hooks. I find some inconsistency with them, and that's a little disappointing considering they aren't cheap. But, I've got about a half dozen "swimmers" in my jerkbait box, so that tells you something - they work, and they have their place. I like them when the water is a bit warmer.
J Francho reply :
On 3/20/2013 at 8:06 PM, robdob said:So let me ask you this. When is the last time you used an RC stk. Most of the people criticizing them have never had one tied on. Watch the bassmasters classic and look closely at the "megabass" jerkbaits everyone has tied on, Those guys make a living fishing and its about a 60/40 split megasbass to rc stk on their rods.
Have you a fished a 110? Most guys that use this argument have never tried the higher end bait in question. I see it often on this forum. Then when they do, it's usually a, "man, you guys weren't kidding, these are good baits."
robdob reply :
On 3/20/2013 at 9:26 PM, J Francho said:Have you a fished a 110? Most guys that use this argument have never tried the higher end bait in question. I see it often on this forum. Then when they do, it's usually a, "man, you guys weren't kidding, these are good baits."
You did not answer my question. So I'll assume the answer is no. To answer your question. Yes, I only have 3 of them but yes I do have some and have caught dozens of fish with them. No doubt they are one of the all time great jerkbaits but in my opinion the main difference is they are always good where as maybe 3 out of 5 RC stks are good. I'm not here to start a p*ssing contest I'm just saying if you have used one of the recently made RC stks and not one of the first runs of them I find it extremely hard to believe you would notice any difference at all.
robdob reply :
On 3/20/2013 at 8:24 PM, The Young Gun said:Is the x-rap a good jerkbait?
It is a good bait. More of a warm water jerkbait because of its erratic action. Smallmouth seem to love them a lot more than the largemouth do.
deaknh03 reply :
I use the rouges, xraps, 110s, pointers, mcrips, rc's, duo's, rebel's and other JDM models. I like each one, they all have their application, but I do prefer the 110's, and now the Duo's. I feel more confident with them, and as a collector, I like the look and feel of them. Each one of these baits has differences in the way they react and each one has differences in the components. The old adage will always stand true, you do get what you pay for, it definitely holds true with these baits.
Maico1 reply :
On 3/20/2013 at 8:06 PM, robdob said:So let me ask you this. When is the last time you used an RC stk. Most of the people criticizing them have never had one tied on. Watch the bassmasters classic and look closely at the "megabass" jerkbaits everyone has tied on, Those guys make a living fishing and its about a 60/40 split megasbass to rc stk on their rods.
The days of playing around with a lure are over for me, especially when I know there are better options out there in this day and age. Now if you get enjoyment out of playing with your baits that is fine with me, but to say they are exactly the same is not true and misleading....... 
chromedog reply :
I love jerkbaits, and I will use them all season if the situation presents itself. I have tried a lot of different ones.
When I buy a bait, I but it cause I think it will catch fish. Now after trial and error I have found that I don't want to fool with changing components of a brand new bait. Shouldn't it be right coming out of the package?
LC has their time and place and I have confidence when I purchase these they will be a correct bait.
Megabass, same deal. I can buy knowing I am getting what I buy.
Xraps. I like these, especially for smallies. But I have to buy 10, test them, and return the ones that don't stay suspended. Might have to return 7.
Yozuri crystal minnow - another favorite of mine. A destructive bait, especially for walleyes.
I have tried some of the others but just find that I am better off if I stick with these brands as they accomplish what I am trying to do.
Not a big fan of the spro or luck e strike stickbaits. Haven't had good luck with them nor the quality. But that is my experience and my buying/fishing habits. Whatever gives you confidence right?
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