Rapala X-rap Subwalk 2024
jimmyjoe reply :
For twitchbaits, I've always used Bomber Long A lures. However, on the pause they will rise. I really don't like using suspendots, because sometimes I don't get them quite right. Rapala has the X-Rap Subwalk, which is supposed to sink, not rise. It MIGHT be just what I'm looking for. So I'm asking some questions:
1) Is it durable? Some places I fish for bass also have pike.
2) How fast does it sink in cold water?
3) Does it seem to be as productive (in general) as the regular X-Rap?
4) Is it stable on a hard twitch, or does it easily upset or turn over?
Thnx for your help. jj
scaleface reply :
Bomber use to make a suspending Long A . I have a KVD signature one .
A-Jay reply :
The Sub-Walk has been one of my shallow water secret weapons for going on 10 years.
It's a Killer bait that no one throws.
I'll fish it exactly like a suspending jerkbait except I can fish it effectively in less than 3 feet of water; BUT not on top.
Often times bass may not want to commit to a topwater bait; but that's when this bait shines.
I Highly Recommended it.
Don't tell anyone.
A-Jay
jimmyjoe reply :
On 2/18/2020 at 5:39 AM, A-Jay said:The Sub-Walk has been one of my shallow water secret weapons for going on 10 years.
It's a Killer bait that no one throws.
I'll fish it exactly like a suspending jerkbait except I can fish it effectively in less than 3 feet of water; BUT not on top.
Often times bass may not want to commit to a topwater bait; but that's when this bait shines.
I Highly Recommended it.
Don't tell anyone.
A-Jay
Okay ....... I won't tell anyone. ???? ????
Knowing the places you fish, I take it that the lure is durable, correct? jj
scaleface reply :
PSHAW! Look like new lures to me . No teeth marks .????
jimmyjoe reply :
On 2/18/2020 at 6:55 AM, scaleface said:PSHAW! Look like new lures to me . No teeth marks .????
No, No. You don't understand; A-Jay doesn't chew his lures. He takes a lunch along with him. ???? jj
A-Jay reply :
On 2/18/2020 at 6:43 AM, jimmyjoe said:
Okay ....... I won't tell anyone. ???? ????
Knowing the places you fish, I take it that the lure is durable, correct? jj
On 2/18/2020 at 6:55 AM, scaleface said:PSHAW! Look like new lures to me . No teeth marks .????
It's a hard plastic bait that is pretty tough. I change the hooks and hardware. Pike will smash these especially early and late season. I often use wire. These are great shallow water search baits.
Also, these baits do require a decent degree of user input to get the action out of them. However after the bait is twitched and then stops, it has a very unique and subtle 'roll' before suspending motionless. Brown bass Hate It - in a good way.
The posted pic includes older and newer baits.
And I can definitely see why one would question my credibility.......
A-Jay
jimmyjoe reply :
On 2/18/2020 at 7:18 AM, A-Jay said:
It's a hard plastic bait that pretty tough. I change the hooks and hardware. Pike will shash these especially early and late season. I often use wire. Thses are great shallow water search baits.
Also, these baits do require a decent degree of user input to get the action out of the. However after the bait is twitched and them stops, it had a very unique and subtle 'roll' before suspending motionless. Brown bass Hate It - in a good way.
The posted pic includes older and newer baits.
And I can definitely see why one would question my credibility.......
A-Jay
Don't worry about the lures "requiring a decent degree of user input". Spoons are the same way; they are what you make of them.
Thank you v. much! jj
BoatSquirrel reply :
On 2/18/2020 at 5:39 AM, A-Jay said:The Sub-Walk has been one of my shallow water secret weapons for going on 10 years.
AJ, does the sink rate change depending on water temp? Thanks man!
A-Jay reply :
On 2/18/2020 at 7:46 AM, BoatSquirrel said:AJ, does the sink rate change depending on water temp? Thanks man!
Don't think so.
Also, this bait is different in that regardless of how long it sits it will only get 18 to perhaps 24 inch down max.
A-Jay
waymont reply :
Sub walk is a favorite of mine too. It’s a unique bait that stays pretty close to the surface, but doesn’t want to crack the surface.
Crankin4Bass reply :
On 2/18/2020 at 5:39 AM, A-Jay said:The Sub-Walk has been one of my shallow water secret weapons for going on 10 years.
It's a Killer bait that no one throws.
I'll fish it exactly like a suspending jerkbait except I can fish it effectively in less than 3 feet of water; BUT not on top.
Often times bass may not want to commit to a topwater bait; but that's when this bait shines.
I Highly Recommended it.
Don't tell anyone.
A-Jay
Nice! Are those the XRSB09's (5/8oz) or the XRSB15's (2oz)? What are you throwing those on?
MIbassyaker reply :
You know, I have one of these and I don't think I have ever thrown it.
A-Jay reply :
On 2/19/2020 at 7:42 AM, Crankin4Bass said:Nice! Are those the XRSB09's (5/8oz) or the XRSB15's (2oz)? What are you throwing those on?
The very bottom 2 baits are 07's - which I think has been discontinued.
The rest are all 09 5/8 oz baits.
I've mentioned this bait a few times here ~
First time was 12 years ago . . .
https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/search/?q=rapala sub walk &author=A-Jay&updated_after=any&sortby=newest&search_and_or=and
A-Jay
Crankin4Bass reply :
On 2/19/2020 at 8:45 AM, A-Jay said:The very bottom 2 baits are 07's - which I think has been discontinued.
The rest are all 09 5/8 oz baits.
I've mentioned this bait a few times here ~
First time was 12 years ago . . .
https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/search/?q=rapala sub walk &author=A-Jay&updated_after=any&sortby=newest&search_and_or=and
A-Jay
Thanks! Sorry I should have used the search function. Just ordered 3 of them to try. Thanks for helping to feed the bait monkey. I can't wait till ice out...
Ogandrews reply :
It’s funny how in bass fishing this is seen as a unique lure but glide baits like this are one of the most popular musky baits around, as well as lots of people using stuff like this in saltwater. I have caught fish on the sub walk but I have spent way more time throwing phantom softail gliders. The sub walk has a good action although I don’t think the small size is as good as the bigger one action wise. I use phantoms almost exclusively when I’m throwing glide baits, I think having that twister tail at the back helps a lot and phantoms have a waaay better action and a great a shimmy on the fall. Try out the 4” softail i have caught some great smallies on them, as well as some of the biggest pike of my life. One thing that helps with any glider is to work it on a slack line. When you pop the bait, the harder you hit it and the more slack in your line the farther it will travel from side to side so you have a huge amount of control over the action of the bait
jimmyjoe reply :
On 2/19/2020 at 2:01 PM, Ogandrews said:One thing that helps with any glider is to work it on a slack line. When you pop the bait, the harder you hit it and the more slack in your line the farther it will travel from side to side so you have a huge amount of control over the action of the bait
That's basically true of spoons, too. The difference is that the cadence with spoons is much faster and the recovery is short because the spoon sinks fast. Some very thin spoons, such as 1/4 oz Dardevle Trout Weight and the Flutterchucks, can be worked much slower because they sink slower. There's nothing quite like doing a walk-n'-flutter with a Flutterchuck in somewhat clear water, and seeing a fish slowly rising to finally hit the lure. It's almost like the anticipation in a horror movie when you know there's a slasher in the room, but you just .... gotta .... wait ... forrrrrr .... itBAM!
I love fishing! ???? jj
Crankin4Bass reply :
I found they also have some smaller 7/16 oz saltwater ones with inline single hooks. The bait monkey made me place another order. ????
jimmyjoe reply :
On 2/19/2020 at 11:15 PM, Crankin4Bass said:I found they also have some smaller 7/16 oz saltwater ones with inline single hooks. The bait monkey made me place another order. ????
Since those are saltwater lures and saltwater has a different density from fresh water, do you think those might behave differently than what you're anticipating or no? jj
A-Jay reply :
On 2/19/2020 at 11:33 PM, jimmyjoe said:
Since those are saltwater lures and saltwater has a different density from fresh water, do you think those might behave differently than what you're anticipating or no? jj
Three of the baits in the pic above are this version but in 5/8.
I changed out the hardware.
Baits seem to run the same however the new model has yet to produce.
It will though, eventually.
A-Jay
Tizi reply :
I just now stumbled upon this new lure from 6th Sense:
6th Sense HyperJerk Finesse Jerkbait
These look like they are similar to the Rapala X-rap Subwalk. Anybody have any?
A-Jay reply :
On 2/21/2020 at 2:26 AM, Tizi said:I just now stumbled upon this new lure from 6th Sense:
6th Sense HyperJerk Finesse Jerkbait
These look like they are similar to the Rapala X-rap Subwalk. Anybody have any?
Interesting ~
And there's some tasty looking patterns in the SW version as well . . .
https://6thsensefishing.com/collections/hyperjerk-70-saltwater
As sort of a follow up on this thread -
I plan on having at least one shallow water "Sub-Walk Challenge" trip this season.
Just added it to my 'Fishing 2020 Event Calendar' ~ and there will be video.
More to follow.
A-Jay
Hook2Jaw reply :
Whatchu throwing these on, @A-Jay? I'm guessing a Medium Heavy stick, but I've always found them interesting and I think spotted bass as well as stripers on my beloved Juliette will annihilate them.
OkobojiEagle reply :
A-Jay... just wondering what perks you receive for being social media's #1 tackle "influencer"?
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A-Jay reply :
On 2/21/2020 at 4:24 AM, Hook2Jaw said:Whatchu throwing these on, @A-Jay? I'm guessing a Medium Heavy stick, but I've always found them interesting and I think spotted bass as well as stripers on my beloved Juliette will annihilate them.
Usually whatever I throw full sized topwater on.(Walkers & Poppers)
The hooks on these are #2's, so next size up from a jerkbait which on my baits are #4's.
Either way, always braid mainline & a mono leader and LOOOONG Casts.
When fish are up in skinny water, I can sit well off them and send this unit right to their face.
A-Jay
On 2/21/2020 at 4:28 AM, OkobojiEagle said:A-Jay... just wondering what perks you receive for being social media's #1 tackle "influencer"?
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There's really no compensation, but when I die, on my deathbed,
I hope to receive total consciousness.
So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.
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A-Jay
Hook2Jaw reply :
Is said unit viable in clear water?
A-Jay reply :
On 2/21/2020 at 4:40 AM, Hook2Jaw said:Is said unit viable in clear water?
Big Time -
That's what the long cast are about.
Many of the lakes here don't have much in the way of middle depth.
So 30 feet sits 5 feet from 4 feet and the the 4 feet starts 150 feet from the bank.
Makes for some of the Longest boat docks you'll ever see.
The fish often cruise along way up in the shallow water, near the bank
but can see (or some how 'feel') me coming from a long way off.
Once detected, bite percentage drops to ZERO.
So putting one of these into orbit from a non-detectable distance - is very helpful.
A-Jay
Hook2Jaw reply :
On 2/21/2020 at 4:48 AM, A-Jay said:Big Time -
That's what the long cast are about.
Many of the lakes here don't have much in the way of middle depth.
So 30 feet sits 5 feet from 4 feet and the the 4 feet starts 150 feet from the bank.
Makes for some of the Longest boat docks you'll ever see.
The fish often cruise along way up in the shallow water, near the bank
but can see (or some how 'feel') me coming from a long way off.
Once detected, bite percentage drops to ZERO.
So putting one of these into orbit from a non-detectable distance - is very helpful.
A-Jay
I'll give some a go. My best days on Juliette, which seems very similar to Menderchuck, have been on a spook style bait. The spots come up out of 40' of water and wallop it. I wonder how many more would bite if they didn't have to fully expose themselves. 
Smells like fish reply :
I opened a crankbait box the other day and was surprised to find a new never fished size 07 subwalk misplaced with cranks. I've no idea when or where I bought it but glad to see it and it will be thrown next time I get to go fishing. Must be from 10 or so year ago during my skitterwalk spree. Looking online the size 07 is still available in the saltwater series. That hot olive color is speaking to me loudly! I was surprised at how expensive these lures are as I am accustomed to $6-$8 husky jerks and dt's. Online these seem to be in the $12 range.
A-Jay reply :
On 2/21/2020 at 4:51 AM, Hook2Jaw said:I'll give some a go. My best days on Juliette, which seems very similar to Menderchuck, have been on a spook style bait. The spots come up out of 40' of water and wallop it. I wonder how many more would bite if they didn't have to fully expose themselves.
Guess you'll find out -
A-Jay
jimmyjoe reply :
On 2/21/2020 at 4:48 AM, A-Jay said:The fish often cruise along way up in the shallow water, near the bank
but can see (or some how 'feel') me coming from a long way off.
Once detected, bite percentage drops to ZERO.
That's why I "overcast" on sand bars.
On another note: There's an old guy hereabouts who fishes out of an old wooden rowboat. He swears that trolling motors spook fish. I've only watched him a couple times, but he seemed to do pretty well. I asked him why he didn't use a kayak (which are popular around here) and he just laughed and rocked his boat side to side .... while standing up. "Nuf said. ???? jj
zell_pop1 reply :
On 2/19/2020 at 7:58 AM, MIbassyaker said:You know, I have one of these and I don't think I have ever thrown it.
X2, I think I have 2 of these lures that never have been used. Also 2 Lucky Craft wake baits.
Fishes in trees reply :
I have 4 of those baits, purchased the year they came out. I fished them some the first year, kinda the way I'd fish a Sammy, but underwater all the time, and didn't catch anything. I might try them again this year.
Smells like fish reply :
@A-Jay how did the original Sureset hooks work out for you on these lures back in the day? I recall you did try the DT lures too. The majority of mine are still Sureset equipped. I recall the DT did not work out for you but what was your thoughts on this style rear treble? Thanks.
A-Jay reply :
On 2/22/2020 at 12:37 PM, Smells like fish said:@A-Jay how did the original Sureset hooks work out for you on these lures back in the day? I recall you did try the DT lures too. The majority of mine are still Sureset equipped. I recall the DT did not work out for you but what was your thoughts on this style rear treble? Thanks.
I HATE THAT HOOK !
I change most stock trebles but that one in particular, was no good for me.
I use a couple of #2 Mustad KVD Triple grip short shank EWG's.
A-Jay
PhishLI reply :
I'll have an 09 in Olive by tomorrow. I had go with amazon 'cause BPS's price is off the wall. The suspending lipless cranks are working now, so this bad boy could be special 'round here. Can't wait!
KP Duty reply :
Well....I must pick up this 'sub-walk'. I won a club tourney the first time I used an a-rap...maybe I can duplicate that with the sub-walk.
PhishLI reply :
Today I was able to get to a spot during daylight hours, finally. It was raining, but I needed to see this bait in action and figure out my retrieve. Wow. It's a cross between a glide and a spook and a suspending jerk. Twitch-pause and it'll nearly turn around while suspending. Nice erratic fleeing/dying baitfish action. Also, it casts like a bullet! I'm pumped! Thanks to jimmyjoe for being curious and thanks to A-Jay for spillin' the beans!
TnRiver46 reply :
I used to have a couple of those lures!!! I might try to hunt them down, I think one of them may have swolen and broken. One is bright yellow or chartreuse on the back and the other is blue
Primus reply :
I have not tried it but the River to Sea ICBM120 Glide bait might be worthy of consideration.
https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/River2Sea_ICBM_120_Glide_Bait/descpage-R2SI.html
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