Just to be clear. If you have only fished one frog, you have no comparison so don't feel you have to pick one if that is all you have fished. I have fished the Bronzeeye and the Sumo and the Sumo seemed to work better as far as hookups.
I know this question has came up before but the Swamp Donkey was not established well at that time and the smaller Bronzeeye just came out as well.
Thanks
J
Snag Proof Bobby's Perfect Frog has a larger bend hook and the points are more upright than most other brands and styles=better hook-ups.
you should checks the deps frog
What frog has the highest hookup ratio?
That would depend on whose rod they are attached to
QuoteWhat frog has the highest hookup ratio?That would depend on whose rod they are attached to
Now that there is a great answer!!!!!!!!!!!!
Original Scum Frog.. trust me..
scum frog popper in black the best ever
A soft plastic frog such as a Yum Buzz Frog or Zoom Horny Toad with a big 6/0 superline hook has worked wonders for me. If you plan on fishing a hollow plastic frog put a few bb's on it, just enough so it doesn't sink. It will really increase your hook-ups.
Definetly the Scum Frog.!
Noisy frogs: don't put stuff inside the hollow frogs/rats as that will prevent the body's compression when a bass takes it. Use the external rattles to make extra sound.
scum frog by far...has the softest body and those hooks come right out.
scum frog is one of the best
I have used the Mann's, Scumfrog, and Snagproof's 'Bobby's Perfect Frog", and the Snagproof by far has the best hookup% for me.
Well, if you're serious about an improvement in hook-up ratio,
my best advice would be to switch from a Hollow Frog to a Solid Toad (cane toad, stanley ribbit, sizmic toad, ~ ~).
Hollow frogs with a decent hook-up ratio include the Boze ZZ Walker & Spro Bronzeye Frog Jr. (the swamp donkey sux!)
Roger
Catt is right as usual. All of the different styles of frogs require a certain amount of experience to understand the techniques necessary for best hook up percentages. I like a variety of frogs with my favorite being the Rage Tail Toad as it has a small hook slot on the back that allows you to skin hook it (which keeps the hook weedless but point is riding on his back) and this gives a better hook up percentage because the hook doesn't bury up in the body of the bait during hook set. www.ragetail.com
scum frog also but the zoom horny toad has a very high hook up ratio too
Hey Whts up Jason ! I have had good luck with the bronzeye over the depps but I just got some of the River 2 Sea and have yet to try them but if looks can tell anything thys should be about the same but last a little longer as far as color staying on the body and the the body slipping down the hook. I will let you know more once I get the boat in since its finally done. ;D
I am a fan of the Yum buzzfrog.
IMHO, it's much more about the rod, line, and most importantly the tecnique of fishing the frog.
Use a heavy action, long rod with braided line.
Then, when you see a fish boil at the frog, WAIT, count to two or three, let the fish get the bait, and then set the hook hard.
Most missed frog fish are not the reult of a bad hook or lure design, it's the fisherman taking it away from the fish.
One trick I've used lately with good success is to not look directly at the frog while you're fishing it. Look slightly off to the side, keeping the bait in your sight. Then, when you see a boil, react slowly, let the bait diappear, and then set it hard.
I've fished the Spro, Reaction Innovation, River 2 Sea, Bozo, Scum Frog heavily and I feel that the hook-up ratio is about the SAME, the most important aspects are the way its fished (i.e. Rod,Line Combo) and the FISHERMAN on the other end of the frog. If your good at delaying hookset and not getting to excited, hard to do by the way, your hook up ratios go way up. Believe it or not I would say my average hookup now compared to when I first started fishing the hollow bodies is over 80%. That being said I am partial to Bronzeye, cause I have more of them in my tackle box and they are easier to come by here in S. FL.
Those of you who said swim frogs have a higher hookup I think are right, but its not a fair comparision since they are totally DIFFERENT presentations. As far as swimming frogs again they are all about the same, I still like the "Original" horny toad. Cane toad is decent, but man does it rip really easily, I can only catch 2-3 fish before its nose cone is useless for rigging.
I fish Horny Toads crotch hooked with a red 5/0 Gammy. Stays perfectly weedless and I have yet to miss a strike since I started crotch hooking the toad last summer...I have almost completely stopped fishing hollow bodies..
I perfer the hard body frogs. It seemed like I missed more fish with the softbodies especially when they blow up on the lure. I use a zoom with a 5/0 owner hook.
For those that like the swimming frogs, use the proper length hook and put the hook bend between the legs and then skin hook the point into the back. That way the bend of the hook is not blocked with the plastic when the hook is set as the frog swings out of the way=less lost fish. For the Zoom Horny Toad, the Horny Toad hook or the Gammy Oversize hook works well. I prefer the Horny Toad over the others as it is heavier due to the added salt in the plastic and can be cast farther.
Hmmmm........The type of frog doesn't seem to matter to my hookup success. I am surprised that SPRO, Horny Toad or Ribbit are not on the list. Those are the best three frogs for me. I don't throw the SPRO as much because it is lighter and I don't get as much distance on my throws with them.
QuoteHmmmm........The type of frog doesn't seem to matter to my hookup success. I am surprised that SPRO, Horny Toad or Ribbit are not on the list. Those are the best three frogs for me. I don't throw the SPRO as much because it is lighter and I don't get as much distance on my throws with them.
Not to mince words, but the Spro is there (Bronzeeye).
Also, Horny Toad and Ribbit are toads, not frogs and are fished entirely different. I don't know about everyone else but I have never missed a hookup on a horny toad. The real problem are that the soft bodied frogs such as the Bronzeeye don't collapse enough to stick a bass with the hook. I had a Bronzeeye 65 and I swear that thing is incapable of catching a bass (I know people have luck, but not me).
J
I stand corrected in my Bass lure name geekdom. You are correct about the Bronzeeye.
But I will match you in your failure to recognize the Horny Toad and Ribbit as SOFT body FROGS! ***.com......the all knowing online retailer lists them as FROGS!
To settle the tie for geeked out bass angler we will have to have a name that lure contest in the basement of the science building ;D
I hook fish just fine on my SPRO frog.....bass hits the lure......count to one.....reel down......set the hook. Works most of the time for me
QuoteI stand corrected in my Bass lure name geekdom. You are correct about the Bronzeeye.But I will match you in your failure to recognize the Horny Toad and Ribbit as SOFT body FROGS! ***.com......the all knowing online retailer lists them as FROGS!
To settle the tie for geeked out bass angler we will have to have a name that lure contest in the basement of the science building ;D
The tackle dealers will go wherever we anglers lead them, but they're often guilty of not paying attention.
Zoom claims that their Trick Worm floats, but mine sink. Strike King calls the Z-Too minnow a slow sinker, but mine float!
In the main, soft-plastic topwaters with a "solid" body are referred to as "toads",
while soft-plastic topwaters with a "hollow" body are normally referred to as "frogs" (regardless of the distributor's handle).
With regard to hookup ratio, provided all things are equal (angler, rod, line ~),
I've found that the toads tend to hookup better than the frogs,
but both are a BLAST!
Roger
QuoteWhat frog has the highest hookup ratio?That would depend on whose rod they are attached to
IMO there is alot of truth there. I've fished several frogs and my favorite is the bronzeye. But I've found what really increased my hookups wasnt the frog it was the rod, line, and me.
QuoteJust to be clear. If you have only fished one frog, you have no comparison so don't feel you have to pick one if that is all you have fished.Thanks
J
I don't want to pick one, but I can't see the results unless I do. I think this pole has valuable information in it and I would like to be able to see the results without skewing the results with my 1 frog opinion. This frustrates me and I have said this on a few poles. So can someone please tell me the results so I don't have to bogart it?
QuoteI stand corrected in my Bass lure name geekdom. You are correct about the Bronzeeye.But I will match you in your failure to recognize the Horny Toad and Ribbit as SOFT body FROGS! ***.com......the all knowing online retailer lists them as FROGS!
To settle the tie for geeked out bass angler we will have to have a name that lure contest in the basement of the science building ;D
I hook fish just fine on my SPRO frog.....bass hits the lure......count to one.....reel down......set the hook. Works most of the time for me
LOL
You are right technically. I mean what is the chance that a bass would eat a toad? Toads stay in the woods and frogs swim. What is up with that? ;D
I realize that the difference in name is to distinguish the different types.
I absolutely agree with everyone that the hookups depend very much on the angler, the other gear and the circumstances. However, all other things being equal, all of the frogs are not. I have in my possession a Swamp Donkey, two Bronzeyes, a Deps Basirisky and three Sumo frogs. All are different in more than one aspect. The Deps is very soft. The Bronzeeye is harder with a small hook gap. The Sumo is even harder but has a seemingly larger hook gap. The Swamp Donkey is unusual as all get out. Very soft body, huge hooks, weird finish.
Saying that all are equal is a copout (pardon me for pointing that out). I doubt very much that anyone here has tried all of them and found all of them to be equal. Next thing we know, Lucky Crafts will be the same as Bandits. :
J
QuoteQuoteJust to be clear. If you have only fished one frog, you have no comparison so don't feel you have to pick one if that is all you have fished.Thanks
J
I don't want to pick one, but I can't see the results unless I do. I think this pole has valuable information in it and I would like to be able to see the results without skewing the results with my 1 frog opinion. This frustrates me and I have said this on a few poles. So can someone please tell me the results so I don't have to bogart it?
I fixed it.
J
Scum frog. Simply awesome. And I see many people here agree with that answer. If you don't fish a Scum frog, you're missin' out.
I think that the answer is "whichever frog that is allowed the time for the fish to load up on it", considering it has the right hook, the right line, the right rod and the right hook set behind it. Beyond that jibberish, I think all of todays frog baits have there right place and time.
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id be willing to bet most here are haveing trouble with the hook set .... ive been there and done that .... hence the reason i say ,,, most dont set the hook right .... or dont have the right gear to fish a frog .... this frog fishing does take tweeking to get it down .... every thing from rod to reel to line .... it all plays a part .... then once you get that tweeking down its time to get the hookset down ... im no expert but as of the end of last season i missed verry few bass .... in fact all of last seaon i may have lost or missed 5 bass that really hit my frogs .... the first thing i will say ,,, if your frogging with a flipping stick ... get a frog rod ... when you buy one get one that is crisp and fast .... im not tryin to bash a co but stay away from the loomis frog rod unless your fishing crankbaits LOL ... the reason i say no flipping stick is because there just too bulky to truly get that quick hook set you need half the time ... im sure you could catch a few with the flipping stick but you will miss just as many ... for line i use 50lb braid ,,, nothing else .... for reel get a burner ,,, brand doesnt matter ... just make sure you can pick up the line in a heart beat ... last the frog ,, i use spro and i will tell you there isnt a better frog out there .... if you have the grear and the hookset down the spro will hook them .... i do fish frogs 90% of the time from mid june through early fall .... our lake become slop holes by june so once i see it on top i have my frogg ...
QuoteI fixed it.J
Thanks J
I was thinking the poll should automatically be viewable so that people don't bogart the results with uneducated voting just to see the results. I don't think the author should have to make an extra vote spot for the uneducated vote to not be tallied or needlessly tallied.
I have used the spro a little bit, but i have other top water lures that work so good in slop that i never bother throwing frogs much. Spro is the only one I have and I have caught the 1 bass that hit it. I am sure i would catch many more if I used it more.