Is It Always Better To Use A Rig With Plastics? 2024
mathnerdm reply :
Huge noob here as you'll learn real quick. My question is, if I'm casting say a 6" trick worm, is it always better to use a rig of some sort? I haven't built up a good arsenal of tackle yet obviously so the idea of trying to do something like a carolina rig almost scares me. Is it ok to just put a sinker on and throw? If it matters I bank fish exclusively. And if I'm fishing just with a hook and sinker, is a 12-18 inch leader good? I'd really appreciate any help I know you guys have to offer! Thanks and have a nice day!
Brian6428 reply :
Depends on what you mean by "a rig". I cant tell from your description if you use a Texas Rig, but the texas rig is one of the best method for beginners to catch fish and all it consists of is a sinker, hook and worm (any plastic). Technically that is a rig. You can also rig a worm in a carolina rig, jika rig, weightless, or many of other ways. However, you being a beginner, I would just stay with the texas rig for now.
Heres a Texas rig: 2251 × 864 - georgiariverfishing.com
Hope this answers your question.
Brian
Mccallister25 reply :
No, you dont always have to "rig" your plastics. Take that trick worm and throw it on a hook like you would a Texas rig, but keep it weightless.
Cast the trick worm out and reel it in with frequent pauses and twitches. Thats a good way to catch em. In fact it seems like thats all they've been wanting in my area lately.
derekxec reply :
also use your imagination just because some people do the normal thing that everyone else does that doesnt mean you cant find something new that works
mathnerdm reply :
On 8/6/2013 at 4:15 AM, BigBlock496 said:No, you dont always have to "rig" your plastics. Take that trick worm and throw it on a hook like you would a Texas rig, but keep it weightless.
Under what circumstances would it be good to keep it weightless as opposed to I think a Texas rig (is what I was describing?) With just a hook, worm and sinker. And what are the benefits of either
derekxec reply :
i like to go weightless when the bottom has a lot of weeds or if the fish are hitting stuff on the top of the water column
5dollarsplash reply :
Texas rig can be thrown further and I tend to use it when I know fish are near the bottom of the water column. Like derekxec said, go weightless when distance isn't as paramount and the fish are up higher.
I try to find a happy inbetween by using the lightest weight I can that will get my bait down. That way if you retrieve or twitch your rod the bait will float some, but you can still maintain contact with the bottom when you want it.
Felix77 reply :
Short answer you already know is "No". The trick worm will get you fish just by throwing it on a hook. Once you can afford more then add more items to the arsenal. To keep things simple here's what I would recommend.
1 - Texas rig. From the bank buy 1/8 - 3/16oz bullets and add that on to your line before the hook/worm.
2 - Split Shot. Size #2 or #3 - Simply crimp them on the line 12 - 18" above the hook for a finesse carolina rig of sorts.
That should get you started. 
Mccallister25 reply :
On 8/6/2013 at 4:27 AM, mathnerdm said:Under what circumstances would it be good to keep it weightless as opposed to I think a Texas rig (is what I was describing?) With just a hook, worm and sinker. And what are the benefits of either
Its good to go weightless when you want more of a subtle, slower fall rate. Sometimes that makes all the difference. There are many things you can fish weightless, not just trick worms. If you see bass hitting topwater, by all means throw that worm weightless and keep it in the upper water column. If you know a spot holds fish, and they are suspended closer to the bottom, a texas rig would work a lot better.
mathnerdm reply :
On 8/6/2013 at 4:42 AM, Felix77 said:1 - Texas rig. From the bank buy 1/8 - 3/16oz bullets and add that on to your line before the hook/worm.
So with a Texas rig, you want to put the weight right directly above the hook?
Mccallister25 reply :
Yes, the bullet weight sits directly above the hook. Slide your weight on your line before you tie the hook on. Once you tie a good knot, clip your tag end and rig your worm onto the hook. Push the worm up slightly higher than the hooks eyelet so the wide end of the weight fits right on the tip of the worm.
mathnerdm reply :
Just wanted to say thanks again for all the help! Brand new to this forum and I've already gotten my money's worth (lol)! You guys rock.
Mccallister25 reply :
No problem!! Thats what were here for. Someone had to teach and help us at one pointer or another!!
mikey5string reply :
I like trick worms on shakey heads, particularly the owner "ultra" head.
While you don't really need anything but a hook, a texas rig is one of the most versatile and effective rigs for bass fishing and it only requires a bullet weight and worm hook. It would definitely be worth the investment.
Jrob78 reply :
Just to clarify because I'm not sure you understand, you aren't tying a weight on. A weight for fishing plastics is shaped like a bullet and has a hole in the middle. You slide the weight on your line before you tie on the hook so the weight slides up and down. While you're fishing, the weight is down at your bait.
.ghoti. reply :
To the original poster; welcome aboard.
Now, look all the way at the top of the page. See where it says Fishing Articles? Click on that. Start with articles for beginners, and work your way on from there. There's enough great information, in hundreds of articles, to keep you busy for the next year.
bigbill reply :
I been using the split shot rig with plastic worms ever since 1974 in lakes. We would use a very large sewing needle to put a number 2 smelled hook thru the worm were the lump is at we would fold the smelled hook leader in half then put it in the eye of the needle and pull it slowly thru the worm. Once the loop of the leader came out of the worm we would pull that till the straight part of the hook was into the body of the worm.
I like the split shot rigged worm this way. Using any size split shot will vary the fall.
I have had awesome success using this in lakes from shore were they drop off into moving channel. The bass seem to be sitting on the edge of the moving water waiting to ambushing anything they can to eat. We have a lot of rivers they dammed well over 200 years ago. Now we have many lakes between these dams on one river. The bass fishing is hardly touches.
Thanks to my uncle George and my cousin Butchie they were on top of using this new stuff probably because they read field n stream and outdoor life all the time. These were the internet in the book form.
Felix77 reply :
Just Google Texas rig. There are a million pics if you aren't sure. Good luck. Post pics of your 1st T Rig Bass.
Cgrinder reply :
On 8/6/2013 at 4:15 AM, BigBlock496 said:Cast the trick worm out and reel it in with frequent pauses and twitches. Thats a good way to catch em. In fact it seems like thats all they've been wanting in my area lately.
So this is a little off topic, but I need to thank you for this idea. I just caught a solid 19 inch Largemouth by twitching and pausing a black Yum Dinger after reading your post earlier.
mathnerdm reply :
On 8/6/2013 at 9:52 AM, Felix77 said:Post pics of your 1st T Rig Bass.
Going out Friday evening so I'll let you know how it goes! Caught some bass in the past but it was more luck since I had little to no clue what I was fishing for. I'm also going to try spinnerbait, that and Texas rigging will be my project for the day. Let's hope it goes well!
On 8/6/2013 at 10:31 AM, Cgrinder said:So this is a little off topic, but I need to thank you for this idea. I just caught a solid 19 inch Largemouth by twitching and pausing a black Yum Dinger after reading your post earlier.
Were you using a weighted Texas rig?
Cgrinder reply :
On 8/6/2013 at 11:53 AM, mathnerdm said:Were you using a weighted Texas rig?
Weightless. Just a 3/0 hook.
gallowaypt reply :
Weightless works great with highly pressured fish and days that are hard to get bit.
HeavyDluxe reply :
The other trick: GO SLOW. The vast majority of time, I think we anglers fish baits too fast.
Take your time, let the bait rest for some seconds (even *many* seconds) before twitching it again.
This is a good thread, too: Guaranteed to Catch Fish
Mccallister25 reply :
On 8/6/2013 at 10:31 AM, Cgrinder said:So this is a little off topic, but I need to thank you for this idea. I just caught a solid 19 inch Largemouth by twitching and pausing a black Yum Dinger after reading your post earlier.
Good job!! Glad I could help out
RoachDad reply :
On 8/6/2013 at 9:28 AM, .ghoti. said:To the original poster; welcome aboard.
Now, look all the way at the top of the page. See where it says Fishing Articles? Click on that. Start with articles for beginners, and work your way on from there. There's enough great information, in hundreds of articles, to keep you busy for the next year.
Nicely done!
deep reply :
As long as you're putting that piece of plastic on a hook, you're using a rig of some kind. Depending on whether you're putting the hook through the middle of the bait, or at one end, depending on whether you're using a weight (either a standalone sinker, pegged or unpegged, or a weighted hook) there are different names for different "rigs". Some rigs are more suited to some types of cover/ presentation than other rigs.
So what kind of cover are you fishing, and what depth of water are you looking to catch the fish from?
mathnerdm reply :
I'm always going to be bank fishing and this trip at a lake. Here's the tackle I picked up to try a texas rig (the spinnerbait is just something I also wanted to try)
http://s1302.photobucket.com/user/micah796123/media/20130806_183842_zps98f17b21.jpg.html?filters[user]=136939379&filters[recent]=1&sort=1&o=0
The bullet weights are 3/16 ounce and I also plan to get some 3/0 gamakatsu ewg hooks before I go in case the 2/0 are too small. How's this look? Anything I'm missing for just a basic Texas rig? I know my noobieness is making yall just cringe as you read, but hey, I need the help.
deep reply :
The picture is sort of small; but here's what you might want to do. What worms are those? I'd try with the 2/0s that you have first.
Slide the sinker onto the line, tie the hook to the line, and put the hook into the worm at one end*; and you have a texas rig!
*like this:http://www.probassfishing.ca/articles/images/Senko-Texas-Style.jpg
You can peg the sinker at (very near) the hook (with a bobber stopper/ toothpick/ rubber strip) and you have a pegged texas-rig (which is also called a florida rig by the way).
You can peg the sinker a foot or so above the hook, and you have a slip-shot rig (without a bead; but that's not very important, not right now anyway), similar to a carolina rig!
So many rigs, right?
mathnerdm reply :
On 8/7/2013 at 8:25 AM, deep said:What worms are those?
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Yum-5-Plastic-Senco-Style-Dinger-Watermelon-Pearl-Laminate/17620027
So for a 5" worm, you think 2/0 will be fine? The worms are just a little more than half as wide as the point of the hook to the furthest side, so I think that's what it should be (correct me if I'm wrong)
And the way you broke the rigs down, deep, sure makes it a little less intimidating lol!
deep reply :
No problems. I personally like a 4/0 EWG for 5" senkos (or senko copies). Try with what you have first. If you're getting too few hookups due to the smaller gap, upsize the hook.
P.S. Weightless texas rig is a popular way to fish senkos. A texas rig minus the sinker = weightless texas rig.
mathnerdm reply :
On 8/7/2013 at 8:44 AM, deep said:I personally like a 4/0 EWG for 5" senkos
The worm has like a rectangular cut out on one side, what exactly is that for?
deep reply :
I think that's for resting the hook point so that it has a little more room to penetrate the fishes mouth. Not sure.
Maybe someone who fishes Yum Dingers will chime in?
P.S. Maybe this will answer you question. http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/123131-slit-on-the-back-of-plastic/
Yamamoto senkos don't have them.
mathnerdm reply :
On 8/7/2013 at 7:56 PM, deep said:I think that's for resting the hook point so that it has a little more room to penetrate the fishes mouth.
So you're thinking it could be like an alternative to texposing? I read that thread, but still confused on what actually to do with it (or just work around it)
deep reply :
You can keep the hook in the hook slot (without texposing)- seems to me though that the plastic may begin sliding down the hook after a while; or you can texpose it, depending on the size of the hook.
Or you can just keep the slot on the bottom or on the sides and just texpose like usual.
Found one crusty old dinger with the slot you talk about.
mathnerdm reply :
Yup, that'd be it! With what you said in mind, I'll probably just go with working around that, just go with the tried and true method.
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