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The Only Baits Any Beginner Needs to Catch Fish 2024


fishing user avatarredbirdsfan44 reply : 

As an employee of a sporting goods retailer I often see many different anglers ranging in experience. Just in the last week I was lucky enough to run into Elite Series Pro James Elam while I was working, but many times I get the chance to share some of my knowledge of fishing to some new guys and gals. A lot of new anglers seem timid to ask for help or even embarrassed of their lack of knowledge of the sport. Some may say I'm over passionate about fishing, but it's my love of the sport which drives me to want to educate and teach others of my experiences and knowledge. With so many different sources of information on the web a beginner can be bombarded with too much information at one time. So here I am to answer one of the most commonly asked questions from beginners and experienced anglers alike: "What are the fish biting on?" 

My answer to that question can vary a lot depending on the time of year and experience of the angler. In many cases, whether it's a newbie or a seasoned vet to the sport, I will tell them at least one of these four baits I'm about to list. In my opinion these are the only four baits a beginner needs to have in their box to get out and start catching fish immediately.

The spinnerbait/Chatterbait

The spinnerbait can be contributed to more fish catches than just about any other bait on the market. It's an easy bait for a beginner to pickup because it requires a simple cast and retrieve and is relatively weedless. It can produce fish no matter if its fall, winter, spring, or summer. The chatterbait is very similarly fished like a spinnerbait though more commonly fished from spring through fall. 

The square bill crankbait

A square bill crank can produce fish spring through fall and lots of them. Though it is not very weedless it does require the same simple cast and retrieve as the spinnerbait and chatterbait. The color options are somewhat limitless so going with a simple bait fish pattern or the ever popular chartreuse black back pattern is a safe bet to landing some bass.

The Senko

The senko is a no brainer best bait for any new angler partially because your options to fishing it are practically neverending: weightless texas rig, wackey, ned rig, drop shot, neko, it goes on and on. A couple packs of Green Pumpkin Senkos (or other brand stick worm) and you can be out catching fish today. 

Why are these the best baits for a beginner you might ask. Well, because all of these can be thrown on either spinning or baitcasting gear and none of them require a monster hook set. Bites are fairly simple to detect on all of these set ups and getting out and catching fish is what the new guys need to build confidence in their abilities. I will say it again these are the best four baits for a beginner in my opinion and I'm sure there are others that would work just as well, but these are the ones I have chosen. So I hope this was worth the read and I hope it helps you get out and catch some fish. 


fishing user avatarRobeng reply : 

nicely done


fishing user avatarroadwarrior reply : 

A few more that are easy to fish and are very productive when the time is right:

Original Rapala

Lipless crankbait, specifically the Red Eye Shad.

Jitterbug

Heddon Zara Puppy

PopR.

 

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fishing user avatarOCdockskipper reply : 

Topwaters like those that Roadwarrior mentioned are great for beginners because they can see the lure and and any strikes.  It cuts down on any mystery of what is going on underwater.

I was surprised that the OP is from the Midwest and didn't include the Ned Rig.  It has become one of the lures I put in a beginners hands because it is nearly impossible to fish wrong and draws bites from darn near anything in the area.


fishing user avatarredbirdsfan44 reply : 
  On 9/28/2016 at 3:25 AM, OCdockskipper said:

I was surprised that the OP is from the Midwest and didn't include the Ned Rig.  It has become one of the lures I put in a beginners hands because it is nearly impossible to fish wrong and draws bites from darn near anything in the area.

I believe I mentioned it under senkos but yes that should be one highlight technique within that category. 


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 

Don't want to sound negative, the right lure is only good fished at the right location and time. Selling a new angler that uses spinning tackle for example eliminates 3 or the 4 suggested recommended lures. Advice should take into account what tackle is being used, where the angler intends to fish and at what depth the bass are currently actively feeding.

The lowly worm has caught more bass than all other lures combined, Senko is only one type of soft plastic worm.

Welcome to the BR site.

Tom

 


fishing user avatarSubaqua Adinterim reply : 

Can you please educate me, someone that primarily uses spinning tackle, why I am limited in the different types of lures that I am using.

I'm having a lot of fun using all different types of lures with my spinning outfit.  

 


fishing user avatartimsford reply : 
  On 9/28/2016 at 6:54 AM, cutbait said:

Can you please educate me, someone that primarily uses spinning tackle, why I am limited in the different types of lures that I am using.

I'm having a lot of fun using all different types of lures with my spinning outfit.  

 

You can use any lure with spinning tackle, provided you have a reel with gearing that is powerful and durable enough to retrieve high resistance baits like big cranks and spinner baits and the strain of horsing fish from heavy cover with braid using frogs and punching. And provided you can find a rod suitable for those techniques or afford to have a custom built on a casting blank. Other than that I guess you could use one for anything but a baitcaster is going to have a lot more power with any resistance bait and it's a lot easier to find a casting rod in long lengths that are best for many techniques, moderate or moderate fast crankbait actions, and heavier powers


fishing user avatarMontanaro reply : 

Night crawler


fishing user avatarOCdockskipper reply : 
  On 9/28/2016 at 5:28 AM, redbirdsfan44 said:

I believe I mentioned it under senkos but yes that should be one highlight technique within that category. 

I missed that, sorry about that.  However, I do believe there is a difference between a piece of a Senko on a small jig head and a Ned Rig.  At least for me, the former does not get bit as often as the latter.


fishing user avatarYeajray231 reply : 

Umm I catch fish on all those lures using spinning tackle ? I only have one bait caster and almost exclusively use spinning tackle. I catch fish on cranks all day using it.. I don't see how using spinning tackle eliminates the OP's suggestions. It clearly does not. I use all of those baits on spinning tackle with success on a regular basis. 

I think the most Important "beginner's lure" not mentioned is the IN LINE spinner. Like a mepps. I've caught more species on that lure than any other . Nothing even comes close. 


fishing user avatarcgolf reply : 

That's a pretty good list, but the two lures that I would add that I really haven't found a time the don't catch fish are a tube and a 3-5" grub. They are pretty idiot proof and a very economical way to get into fishing. There aren't many trips where one of the two wasn't in the water for me, because they both are versatile and flat out catch fish including the big girls. 


fishing user avatarRaul reply : 

How come lipless cranks weren't mentioned by the OP ? :dontknow:


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 

Spinning tackle that most entry level anglers have are not designed for high water heavy resistant lures like square bill crank baits and spinnerbaits or chatter baits and the line rod power is marginal to get good hook sets with heavy wire hooks. If you cast and retreive lures that can't unwind the line as it twisted by the spinning reels bail each revolution, the line becomes twisted beyond use quickly.

To over come line twist a swivel should be used or braided line. To achieve good hook sets with heavy wire hooks you need line at least 10#  test and rods with enough power like 3 or MH.

Agree you can use a spinning outfit if the rod, reel , line combination performs the task. Gary Yamamoto only uses spinning tackle and I can't think of any other pro who uses spinning for crank baits, spinnerbaits or chatter baits. Spinning is ideally suited for weightless Senko's and several lightvweight finesse presentations suited this type of tackle.

You all should be busting my chops for saying 3 out 4 when it's 2 out of 3!

Peace.

Tom


fishing user avatarprimetime reply : 

Original Floating Rapala....split shots....assortment of plastic worms and of course.....a Popper and walking bait since they are fun, but I would have fun setting people up with a starter kit when I worked at a tackle shop.

I would always ask what the budget was and then I would always figure since they usually were fishing ponds or small lakes I would also suggest the senko since it is easy to fish, but in pressured areas like many private lakes, everyone uses a senko, but we had a worm bar so for .10 each you could load someone up with enough plastics for the year for $10 bucks.

I would always suggest inline spinners since they get bit, topwater, but I would encourage them to learn to get comfortable with weightless worms and I would suggest shallow running cranks to keep it simple, but the Rapala or Rebel Minnow was usually the first lure I would suggest because people love to have lures....

Best part of the Floating Minnow baits is you can fish em topwater, wake em, walk em, or crank them down to 3-4' like a crankbait, or add a split shot or put them on a carolina rig especially if fishing rivers....I would always try to give baits they could use in the brackish water as well so they could catch some Snook as well, but good list.

I could always tell who was reading magazines or watching videos when they would come in new and want  Glide baits or the BBZ....I had to do my job and sell them, but if they were on a budget I would have to be honest and tell them that the line was really the most important part because strikes are only fun if you land a few.....

I found most new anglers would come back and always want more toads and boot tailed swimbaits because I would tell them to fish them on the surface, cover water, and count to 3 after the blow up....Everyone loves Topwater, it is hard to convince them that the best way to get started is to target shallow bass, and suggesting casting to the banks is often hard for people to comprehend.  They assume if they can get that boat right in the middle, that is where the big fish are....

I use Medium Heavy spinning rods for Jigs, Cranks, any bait with 20lb braid or 10lb braid, sometimes 10lb mono on a 4000 Reel. Most MH spinning rods are rated up to 3/4 so you can't really fish big baits, but the saltwater inshore spinning rods can handle 1 ounce and are light. I never see saltwater guys using casting gear, and you catch fish much much larger than the world record largemouth with much bigger lures at times....A nice Stradic with a good quality MH or H spinning rod can get you through mats if needed imo. If you can land a huge Tarpon, a 5-8lb bass should be alright.


fishing user avatarsoflabasser reply : 

Interesting how some think you are limited in bass fishing when using a spinning reel.I use all the lures mentioned above with spinning reels and have a high success rate with spinning tackle.I even throw big spinnerbaits and buzzbaits on spinning gear which is supposedly "incorrect" to do as well(yet I somehow manage to catch bass this way).It all boils down to personal preference and there are plenty of fishermen that do well with spinning reels just like fishermen do well with baitcaster reels for bass.


fishing user avatarcgolf reply : 
  On 9/28/2016 at 12:27 PM, soflabasser said:

Interesting how some think you are limited in bass fishing when using a spinning reel.I use all the lures mentioned above with spinning reels and have a high success rate with spinning tackle.I even throw big spinnerbaits and buzzbaits on spinning gear which is supposedly "incorrect" to do as well(yet I somehow manage to catch bass this way).It all boils down to personal preference and there are plenty of fishermen that do well with spinning reels just like fishermen do well with baitcaster reels for bass.

I am with you, I have fished pretty much every technique with a spinning reel in my time. I have found that a baitcaster is easier to use with cranks due to gear ratios and the handle reels fast easier, but that doesn't stop me from only using a spinning reel/rod when bank fishing tossing everything from plastics to cranks on the same spinning stick and catch a mess of fish while I am at it. I may miss a few because the rod is not perfect for the lure, but since I am out there to just have fun, it is much easier to carry one stick vs 4 especially if I wade in.


fishing user avatarYeajray231 reply : 

. Well @WRB that makes sense. And something I didn't really consider. I almost always use braid . I like the strength, casting ability , and sensitivity . And almost always use 15lb-20lb test because of a big one that broke me off at the boat using much smaller lb test. So the things you described being needed to be done if you chose to use spinning reels with cranks , I already do.. and have done for years. Unknowingly. 


fishing user avatarsoflabasser reply : 
  On 9/28/2016 at 8:09 PM, cgolf said:

I am with you, I have fished pretty much every technique with a spinning reel in my time. I have found that a baitcaster is easier to use with cranks due to gear ratios and the handle reels fast easier, but that doesn't stop me from only using a spinning reel/rod when bank fishing tossing everything from plastics to cranks on the same spinning stick and catch a mess of fish while I am at it. I may miss a few because the rod is not perfect for the lure, but since I am out there to just have fun, it is much easier to carry one stick vs 4 especially if I wade in.

I agree with you 100% on everything you wrote,especially the part on having fun when bass fishing.Some say that spinning reels don't have strong enough components to effectively fish  bigger lures such as heavy spinnerbaits,but that's not 100% true with all spinning reels.There are many people that enjoy casting big saltwater plugs with size 4000 spinning reels and these people have no problems catching big powerful saltwater gamefish.


fishing user avatarscaleface reply : 

Wait . no Beelte spin ? I thought all Bass fishermen cut their teeth on these things .


fishing user avatarCatt reply : 

The Only Baits Any Beginner Needs to Catch Fish

I don't know about baits (lures) but I start most of my students with one simple technique. 

Texas Rigs!

With a Texas Rig I can cover the entire water column, it is effective year round, it is productive in all water clarity's, deadly post frontal & bluebird skies.


fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 

Everyone likes to recommend senkos for beginners, but I like to start them off with a moving bait.  Something like a spinnerbait or a crankbait.  Fish usually hook themselves with these.  A topwater is not a bad option either, since it's very interactive.  Once they're used to feeling the strike, I'll move on to feel baits.  I prefer to use something weighted, but hooks easily.  Wacky jigs with a finesse worm, or a jig and grub is a good option.  I want them to feel bottom, and how long it takes to get there.  Finally, I'll show them weightless options, like senkos.  By then, they will have developed a feel for semi-slack line bites.  Too often, I'm removing deeply swallowed hooks when I introduce them to a senko from the get go.  It's this experience that led me to the path I outlined above.


fishing user avatarOklahoma Mike reply : 

As already mentioned, I would add a lipless crank.

And I can (and often do) throw all of these on spinning gear with no issues.


fishing user avatarCatt reply : 

Once the beginner master the Texas Rig all other techniques are easy to learn.

Proof's in the pudding! ;)

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fishing user avatarSubaqua Adinterim reply : 

All fantastic advice and information, I'm constantly learning here.  From my own experience, and it should be noted that I'm not a tournament/competition guy; when it comes to Texas rigging, there is no shame in crimping down the barbs on the hook for me.  I do occasionally get some fish that are hooked deep, and it's easy to get the hook out and nice to see them swim away.  Of course I do have fish that throw the hook, which is part of fishing this way.

Also, if I could go back and really be a true beginner again, having no lures; knowing what I know now, I would have about 90 percent less stuff.  It's good to be prepared,however, you don't want to be a slave to your possesions and spend time constantly sorting and organizing and getting things ready.  At this point, I take just some basic lures and try to have more fun.

Love seeing the smile on the kid's face above, that captures how much fun it should be.


fishing user avatarBass_Fishing_Socal reply : 

First I will say thanks to OP since Im going/trying to introduce my wife and kids into bass fishing next year.

I already have plan for them on what gear and lure to use. You guess what? It is a spinning gear? and what lure? A senko, either wacky/texas rig.

Why? It is easy enough for them to cast and dont require a lot of movement for them to get too tired before catching fish.

I am new to bass fishing myself and you know what, I only caught ONE fish so far with spinner bait, none on lipless and Crankbait. All I want to say is most of the time a beginner would fish from bank not from boat. From bank of course they would have to walk around to find fish but boat with all the tech/experience you drive the boat to where fish at and just cast the lures.

Lipless and crankbait might be good if you know fish is in the area and at depth you are presenting the lure. Now tell me how many lure / color / depth level, I have to have in order to catch 1 fish. Maybe I will let her use my deep diving and I think in no time she would say "my arm and my wrist hurt let go home"

 I rememer a few years back, when ppl tell me lipless is alway catching fish. I got a few of those walking around big lake, small lake, pond trying to catch just one fish. I'd been doing that for a few months with nothing in return, almost give up fishing altogether.

Top water, this one great more fun but I think it need other like time/weather to successfully catch fish. I dont think my wife would want to wake up 5:00 in the morning or go outside when it forcast to rain for top water action with me.

I have witness many times that bass bite senko even when it sit still. In this case I will have my wife cast it out shake a little bit or do nothing when she gets too tired. At first she would get to learn how to detech the bite / watch the line movement and hopefully get to learn how to reel the fish in. It is also very cost effective just 2 bag of senko shad and blue with a pack of 4/0 worm hooks and call it good.


fishing user avatarRaul reply : 
  On 9/28/2016 at 12:27 PM, soflabasser said:

Interesting how some think you are limited in bass fishing when using a spinning reel.I use all the lures mentioned above with spinning reels and have a high success rate with spinning tackle.I even throw big spinnerbaits and buzzbaits on spinning gear which is supposedly "incorrect" to do as well(yet I somehow manage to catch bass this way).It all boils down to personal preference and there are plenty of fishermen that do well with spinning reels just like fishermen do well with baitcaster reels for bass.

Exacty, OP don´t know Fish Chris. :whistle:


fishing user avatar"hamma" reply : 

I started my 3 daughters with a jerkbait, Off the boat is one reason, but in reality you can fish them year round ,. your'e not sliding them up a single hook, replacing them every other fish, and its visual for them to see. They all caught fish first time, and want to go again.

 Now if we were to fish off shore??? I'd go with a texas rig, not only for the same reasons Catt explained. But that weedless ability offers less tree hanging of lures, more "tight" to shore presentations, and it would force them to "feel" the hit.

 As for spinning vs casting gear?

 For many years all my bass fishing was done via spinning gear, I did buy a baitcaster and after three years of aggrevation I gave up as I had no one to teach me how to cast it correctly. When I joined a bass club, I now had teachers, and I did learn. I use baitcasting and spinning in unisin. The right lure for the right gear mentality. Spinnerbaits and casting/flippin jigs, med. and deep diving cranks, most jerkbaits  and heavier weighted worms get baitcasting. Anything thats even kinda light for baitcasting gets a spinning rod as the clear waters up here dictate long casts. I could use baitcasters for some of the lures I toss with spinning, but its a distance driven thought. I can also skip with both but prefer spinning. Casting with a flipping rod I came up with a modified sidearmed pitch/skip thats deadly, that I use from time to time. But most skipping is done with a spinning rod. Grubs, topwaters, 4" worms, and anything weighting a 1/4 oz. or under ,...All spinning gear.

Now,..that being said.

Although many lures are "proprely" fished with spinning or casting, You can use either as long as your comfortable with it. Your success rate may differ a bit, but if your just beginning who cares. That discussion comes more into play "if" your tourney fishing.

example #1: I can skip a jig and pig on both spinning or casting, and I do so fishing mono exclusively. If I were to get back into tourney fishing? Id fish braid on the spinning gear, just because I get further skips with spinning.

Example #2: as of now I fish topwaters with a old under 6 foot spinning rod and mono,..my favorite rod, If back in tournies? id still use it, but just for "lighter" tops, and heavier ones would get a 6'6" or 7' baitcaster.

 Reasons for this is,...when tourney fishing my determination and falling into the thoughts of "having the right stuff", really kicks in. Im going to give my best shot at it. When funfishing its more for my enjoyment and I'm not so gungho! 

Can you fish everything with a spinning rod? of course,.. but, in some instances that heavy lure with stout hooks will fish better, suited to a casting rod. 

Whether you fish spinning, or casting, or both,..I respect your choice, and applaud however you catch your fish. 

Keep ya line wet!


fishing user avatarBass_Fishing_Socal reply : 

I think I miss OP's intentionally for this post. Are we talking about beginner or yourself?

I consider myself a beginner for bass fishing too, so I do agree with OP and WRB. I just recently start using other like crank/chatterbait or even differnent topwater lure.

Remember beginner, minimum tackle, easiest way to catch fish.

 

 


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 
  On 9/29/2016 at 4:49 AM, Raul said:

Exacty, OP don´t know Fish Chris. :whistle:

Fish Chris used spinning tackle 4# test to fly line tail hook night crawlers, perfect outfit for that presentation. Chris also used heavy swimbait tackle when using swimbaits, right tackle for the application. Chris is a Lght line angler and caught some giant fish using it.

The only thing bad about spinning tackle is line twist, every spinning reel will twist line using crank baits and spinnerbaits, If line twist is OK, use it!

Tom

 


fishing user avatarDrew03cmc reply : 

The Ned Rig is not a Senko or even a derivative of one. The material is different, it floats and it is durable, unlike a Senko. Also, you can use any number of small baits on the Ned Rig. 


fishing user avatarredbirdsfan44 reply : 

I'm glad my post had gotten a lot of attention. I merely picked only four lures for a entry level angler to have success on that I believe to cover most of the water column. I chose only four lures because as a beginner there's going to be a lot of guessing and if you limit the options to four you can eliminate a lot of the guess work. There's definitely an incredibly long list of lures that anglers can go out with and easily catch many fish, but I simply just tried to give 4 options that most bass anglers all have and have proven to repeatedly catch fish. Again this was solely based on opinion and you know what they say about opinions. 

I know there's a lot of experienced anglers on the forum, many of whom have twice the years of experience as I've lived. I'm very passionate about the sport of bass fishing which allows me to teach what I know to others. If this post helps only one person then great. It's awesome to see how much others want to help out the new guys. I haven't been a member of the forum for a terribly long time but I always tell people about it because it's truly a great place to learn and share knowledge 


fishing user avatarYeajray231 reply : 

Before WRB even replies.  A 15lb largemouth is very impressive and bass anglers (in the north) would trade alot of things for even a 10lb largemouth. 

He gave his reasons for why he believes spinning reels are not as effective in some applications. Me and many others obviously disagree. But that's ok ! Everyone here has their own opinion.. take them for what it's worth. 

I disagreed with his post as well. But didn't come at him personally. I don't see why you couldn't just chime in about your success with spinning tackle and leave the bashing out of it. It's childish. And unnecessary. 

I was enjoying this thread.. and if it escalates further it's going to be on lock. 

LAME


fishing user avatarsoflabasser reply : 
  On 9/29/2016 at 4:49 AM, Raul said:

Exacty, OP don´t know Fish Chris. :whistle:

Yes Mr. Wolfgram is well known for catching big bass on spinning reels and he proves that these types of reels are more than adequate enough for bass fishing. 

  On 9/28/2016 at 10:32 PM, Catt said:

Once the beginner master the Texas Rig all other techniques are easy to learn.

Proof's in the pudding! ;)

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Your grandson looks like he is having a lot of fun catching these big bass and at the end of the day that's what matters most in all types of fishing. 


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 
  On 9/29/2016 at 10:24 AM, Sharkyak420 said:

Well  WRB, im new to freshwater bass fishing but i can tell you that supposed 15 lb lmb doesnt impress me in the least. Im a long time surfcaster and use nothing but V.S. spinning reels for everyone of my thousand plugs in rough surf with ZERO problems.

Who are you to shoot down that mans great advice to much welcomed newcomers to our beloved sport and passion. Looks to me that you are a bully with probably minimal success so you need to knock down others to feel good. Im not surprised your one of those Westcoast  weenies. I hope you change your negative attitude 

Wow, talk about negative!

You walk into Redbirds shop and he sells you a square bill, spinnerbait and Senko for you surf spinning outfit and your a happy camper.

What I am saying is before you advise a new angler what lures yo use, learn what entry level tackle they have to fish with first.

Tom 


fishing user avatarNorcalBassin reply : 
  On 9/29/2016 at 10:24 AM, Sharkyak420 said:

Well  WRB, im new to freshwater bass fishing but i can tell you that supposed 15 lb lmb doesnt impress me in the least. Im a long time surfcaster and use nothing but V.S. spinning reels for everyone of my thousand plugs in rough surf with ZERO problems.

Who are you to shoot down that mans great advice to much welcomed newcomers to our beloved sport and passion. Looks to me that you are a bully with probably minimal success so you need to knock down others to feel good. Im not surprised your one of those Westcoast  weenies. I hope you change your negative attitude 

Looks like the warden arrived in less than 5 posts and your trolling about the bass in his avatar not being impressive excludes you from being taken seriously. WRB hardly shot it down... just pointed out certain equipment is better suited for certain tackle. You can tow a 24' travel trailer with a Tacoma and get the job done, but given the option a 3/4 or 1 ton will get the job done more efficiently. That shouldn't be offensive to anyone with a Tacoma.


fishing user avatarroadwarrior reply : 

Back on topic please.

-Kent


fishing user avatarprimetime reply : 

I have found the best way to get a friend hooked on fishing, is to take him to a pond that holds a good amount of 2-4lb bass that are usually active, and I like to give him a topwater because even a 15" Bass blowing up on a topwater, is exciting. If that does not get you excited, then throwing a wacky rig will be tough. 

I find most friends I take fishing when they see the pond or even a lake and a weedless swimbait or toad, they are thinking bluegills I think. When they see a 17" 3lb bass slam a bait, then they wait, set the hook and it jumps, you will hear claims of 7-10lbs for guys who do a decent amount of saltwater fishing because Bass catch people off guard as to how big a 5lb fish really is. 5lb bass even here in Florida are impressive, I still get excited if I hook into a 4lb bass, and really there is no right or wrong answer, any lure will work if used in the right place and has hooks. 

I actually learn more from new anglers since they do not have pre-conceived notions on lures or colors, so when they grab a lure I have never caught fish on I just say "Awesome choice" Don't lose it, and more times than not they catch fish with it because at the end of the day.....If fish are feeding, they are feeding.


fishing user avatarsoflabasser reply : 

I agree with you 100% that topwaters are a excellent lure to use for beginners.Topwaters are very easy to use and as everyone knows a topwater strike can't be beat, especially the explosive ones.A 5 pound bass in Florida is relatively common and usually measures 20-22" in length with the occasional skinny bass barely weighing 5 pounds at 24".A 8-10 pound bass is considered a trophy bass in Florida and usually measures 24-28" in length and looks more like a freshwater grouper than a regular bass.The state of Florida awards anglers who release trophy bass  that are 8 pounds and bigger(all these bass have to be approved by biologist to deserve the recognition from the state).And yes the specific lure used and how it's fished is far more important than the color of the lure. 

  On 9/30/2016 at 9:45 AM, primetime said:

I have found the best way to get a friend hooked on fishing, is to take him to a pond that holds a good amount of 2-4lb bass that are usually active, and I like to give him a topwater because even a 15" Bass blowing up on a topwater, is exciting. If that does not get you excited, then throwing a wacky rig will be tough. 

I find most friends I take fishing when they see the pond or even a lake and a weedless swimbait or toad, they are thinking bluegills I think. When they see a 17" 3lb bass slam a bait, then they wait, set the hook and it jumps, you will hear claims of 7-10lbs for guys who do a decent amount of saltwater fishing because Bass catch people off guard as to how big a 5lb fish really is. 5lb bass even here in Florida are impressive, I still get excited if I hook into a 4lb bass, and really there is no right or wrong answer, any lure will work if used in the right place and has hooks. 

I actually learn more from new anglers since they do not have pre-conceived notions on lures or colors, so when they grab a lure I have never caught fish on I just say "Awesome choice" Don't lose it, and more times than not they catch fish with it because at the end of the day.....If fish are feeding, they are feeding.

 


fishing user avatarEvanT123 reply : 

Fluke, grub, tube, spinnerbait/Beatle spin and topwater. That's what I'd start as my 5 in the body of water I fish. Never caught a cold on a lipless crank. Have thrown all those on spinning and casting equipment. 


fishing user avatarCatt reply : 

I find the reason most anglers avoid teaching youngsters the Texas Rig first is they lack confidence themselves in the technique.

What's always missing from these discussions is the individual being taught. As a teacher, coach, mentor I must first evaluate the individual I'm working with. I need to understand what are the expectations of the student, below is my grandson Evan Trace he thinks he should get bit on every cast, while Aiden Paul (pictured above) understands there is a certain amount of fishing required before you catch.

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fishing user avatarfishwizzard reply : 

I have never caught a single fish that I can remember with a "Worm and weight" t-rig.  Caught a ton with other t-rigged plastics, weighted and weightless, but never caught a fish on a 6" worm.  Some day I am going to start leaving everything else at home until I get one on a worm. 

I have had good results with starting people on a small weedless inline spinner, something like this:

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I think the tactile feedback from the thump of the blade is helpful in understanding how retrieval speed relates to lure speed and the lures are easy to cast, steer, and retrieve from trees.  They also, if you make up some tiny ones, will catch the heck out of panfish and small bass.  

I then introduce a weightless fluke, which also provides some tactile feedback and is a good intro in "working" a retrieve.  It also helps that flukes are effective over a wide range of retrieve styles and speeds, so hopefully a good amount of hooksetting practice will happen as well.  


fishing user avatarSharkyak420 reply : 
  On 9/29/2016 at 11:35 AM, Yeajray231 said:

Before WRB even replies.  A 15lb largemouth is very impressive and bass anglers (in the north) would trade alot of things for even a 10lb largemouth. 

He gave his reasons for why he believes spinning reels are not as effective in some applications. Me and many others obviously disagree. But that's ok ! Everyone here has their own opinion.. take them for what it's worth. 

I disagreed with his post as well. But didn't come at him personally. I don't see why you couldn't just chime in about your success with spinning tackle and leave the bashing out of it. It's childish. And unnecessary. 

I was enjoying this thread.. and if it escalates further it's going to be on lock. 

LAME

Yeah, you and others agree. I didnt get personal. If you dis agree then tell him. Dont kiss his ass. 


fishing user avatarYeajray231 reply : 

@Sharkyak420 you did get personal. I did tell him; if you could read well enough to glance through this thread you'd know that.  I'm not kissing anything. I could care less about him . Nobody needs your attitude Mr tough guy . Grow up. 


fishing user avatarMIbassyaker reply : 

I don't know what it is, but there is something about the texas rig that just teaches you about bass. I was fishing long before I got into bass. But before I learned how to fish a texas rigged worm, I really could not shake the feeling that most of the bass I caught were by accident. I believe they probably were.  But once I got used to using a texas rig, I stopped getting skunked so often. It taught me how to observe, how to watch and feel. I started looking at cover and depth and clarity and conditions much more closely. I started being able to tell much more clearly the difference between a strike and bumping or hanging in cover.  I started being able to anticipate better where and when I'd be most likely to get bit. And It taught me how to properly set the hook. I'm definitely not a bass fishing expert, but if there is any single thing that has made me a more successful and more confident angler, it has been learning how to use a texas rig, no question.


fishing user avatarsoflabasser reply : 
  On 9/28/2016 at 9:26 PM, scaleface said:

Wait . no Beelte spin ? I thought all Bass fishermen cut their teeth on these things .

The Beetle spin is a good lure for beginners to use and even a seasoned bass fisherman can have lots of fun catching fish on this lure.


fishing user avatarprimetime reply : 

I learned how to fish with a weightless 6" Culprit and Mister Twister phenom tail in Ponds growing up, I still try to use weightless plastics as much as possible, that is still a "Texas Rig" Right?

I find using a bullet weight is a harder skill to learn, kind of like learning how to fish a Jig which is the hardest skill to learn imo, I still would rather use a Soft bait since fish seem to hold it longer and it comes through weeds better imo.

I use Casting gear for 5 out of my 7 rods I usually carry, but if I have an open rod, and it is a spinning rod, I have no issue tying on a Chatterbait or spinnerbait even if I know it is not the right tool. I do prefer spinning rods for fishing Jerkbaits and smaller finesse techniques, but I always use a spinning rod when fishing in tight spots where I have to skip, I just use braid and a good quality rod but I have to agree that a casting rod even with a weightless worm feels more natural to me. Down here you need heavy line in many places, and anything thicker than 10lb test diameter on a spinning rod is tough, I don't want to ruin my nice spinning reels with 40lb braid burning out the gears. My saltwater spinning set up is heavy enough to bass fish with but I rarely use it unless I know it may be super windy on a lake.




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