Hello all,
I'm a college student at NC State University studying industrial design. For a project, I'm redesigning a tackle box. One of the ideas I'm exploring is to have a smaller pouch or box that you could clip onto your belt, which would carry a couple lures and hooks, in case you were going out and didn't want to take your whole tackle box with you. From your experiences, would you find this useful, or are there other aspects of tackle boxes that need redesigning? Thanks!
Andrew
I would use this if I went for a quick, short trip to a pond very close by.
I would have no use for this, for the following reasons...
> I prefer to carry my tackle with a shoulder strap, rather than on my belt. Besides, I don't always wear a belt when Im fishing in my pajamas.
> I prefer the plastic storage boxes, because I like to be able to see the tackle that I carry, while its held out in front of me. Rather than futz around for it on my hip.
But that's just me.
However, here are some ways you can improve your design.
> Those lure pockets you show holding some individual hard baits, I would reduce that to 4 instead of 6, and make them all a single universal size, like maybe about 3.5" x 2".
> Inside of that, make a single large main pocket, that would be the same overall size as the pouch itself, and that would accommodate 2 bags of plastics.
> Put webbing or a zipper pocket on the cover flap
> Add a place for some needlenose pliers
I think youll have a much more versatile hip pouch after that.
How about a bandolier type setup? Don't think I've ever seen such an item, but it would give you a lot more area for lure storage.
I do a lot of pond fishing and like to have my tackle somewhat mobile. I have a backpack that holds 4-5 3700 series storage containers, but even that is too big to lug around all day, so I also take along a zippered belt pouch that is made for carrying shotgun shells. I'll move the lures I think I'll use that day into a couple of smaller storage boxes and throw a few bags of plastics in there as well, and leave the backpack in the truck.
The idea has merit but it's simply not enough gear to be really feasible.
I would lean more towards a fanny pack style soft sider that could hold maybe 2 or 4 of the 3449/3450 sized little boxes end to end, with long inner zipper pouches for soft plastics bags.
We use to carry a sort of hard fanny pack type box for wading creeks for catfish. It was worn in front and was a hard box with a snap at the top (around your belly button). When opened, it would flip down (away), from your body, and then there was another thin lid on top of the compartments that opened to the inside of the container. It didn't hold much but all we needed was some extra hooks, sinkers, swivels, and sponges. They weren't very stylish, but they were very functional for what we needed them for.
First of all, Welcome to Bassresource! It would be nice for the shore-bound angler. Lastly, Go 'Pack!
I often do a hiking/minimalist fishing trips and use the following, either alone or in concert with each other, to carry my tackle:
1) A rock climbing chalkbag, good for a small ziplock or three of plastics and a small 4-compartment Plano box, pliers, hook hone, and snips
2) A flyfishing chest pack. It holds the same, plus a second small Plano.
3) The hip belt pockets of my hiking packs. Really only good for a few bags of plastics and the small Plano.
What is missing from all of these is a way to store hard baits, especially ones with treble hooks. Even with hook covers some sometimes end up with a snagged lure, which is annoying at best and damages my bag/pouch at worst. While your design addresses that problem, the issue then becomes the huge range of sizes and shapes that hard baits take. Fixed pockets are going to exclude a ton of lures, or be so oversized as to be useless. I have been looking at making something like a small wrench roll to keep my finesse lures in so that I could just pocket it, but that wouldn't work for most guys who use larger ones.
Not super helpful info, but good luck with you project and let us know what you come up with.
Welcome aboard, Andrew!
Interesting design. I'm sure it would find a
spot on many a belt; however, probably not
mine. I'd like to see it designed to accommodate
stretch waistbands like sweat pants, athletic
shorts, hiking shorts, etc. Might find a larger
audience.
Looks like a cool idea. What if the pouch had strips of Velcro and then the individual pockets attached to that. This would let you have 6 small pouches for baits or 3 pouches for baits and one larger one for plastics possibly. I'm thinking of the idea much like the modular vests we see military personnel use. Depending on the mission or in this case the fishing technique a different setup could be made quickly and easily before you go. Either way I think its a cool concept your working on and welcome to BR!
On 3/16/2016 at 2:20 AM, Crankinstein said:Looks like a cool idea. What if the pouch had strips of Velcro and then the individual pockets attached to that. This would let you have 6 small pouches for baits or 3 pouches for baits and one larger one for plastics possibly. I'm thinking of the idea much like the modular vests we see military personnel use. Depending on the mission or in this case the fishing technique a different setup could be made quickly and easily before you go. Either way I think its a cool concept your working on and welcome to BR!
Now that is a cool idea. Maybe even using a Molle/PALs system for a more secure attachment?
Welcome to BR! Kind of a cool idea you have going there. Like others have said one issue you might run into is the wide range in size of lures out there. Could work well for a quick trip though.
On 3/15/2016 at 7:43 AM, Andrew the Design Student said:From your experiences, would you find this useful, or are there other aspects of tackle boxes that need redesigning? Thanks!
Andrew
Andrew welcome to the forum. I for one would find your concept not only feasible but VERY useful. The friends I fish with also feel this is feasible and useful. Unlike so many here I feel less encumbered by a belt worn pouch than something hanging over my shoulder or back. The millions of anglers like me who are of "majestic" stature find it impossible to find properly fitting man purses to drape over us. I also see no need to carry the kitchen sink and find a few well thought out choices in tackle to be enough to target the prey I have targeted for decades on the same water. If I haven't figured them out by now I should just quit fishing.! I suggest you google "striper fishing surf bags belt pouch" or ask this question on a surf fishing/striper fishing forum. Those anglers are more pedestrian in nature than "bass angler's" and could give you hundreds of suggestions since they use belt pouches every day and can point out short comings like material that can and cannot be caught by the hooks of the lures. Good luck with your project, it deserves an A.
As trout season opens in my area I'm planning to keep a pole in the car so that I can stop for a quickie on the way home from work. I think this kind of tackle box would be great for that purpose. Let me know if you make any for sale I will buy one.
Cool! Thanks you guys so much for your feedback! I really appreciate it, and will be incorporating it into my project. Do y'all mind if I post newer iterations in the future for your review? Thanks again guys!
Andrew
On 3/17/2016 at 5:49 AM, Andrew the Design Student said:Cool! Thanks you guys so much for your feedback! I really appreciate it, and will be incorporating it into my project. Do y'all mind if I post newer iterations in the future for your review? Thanks again guys!
Andrew
Im ok with that.
Sounds like a good idea.I am not very organized but I've been fishing all my life.I often need something to put a few baits in if I'm pond fishing or going for a quick trip behind the house.I usually end up stuffing a few bags of plastics in my pockets which then get tangled up with keys, pocketknives etc.so I'm still looking for a better solution.Just got a new camo belt pack for hunting for Christmas.I may try that for awhile.But the biggest organizational problem I have is what to do with ACCESSORIES. ( knives, pliers,scales, sinkers,_hooks, sunglasses,etc.)I usually carry them in a small bucket but its a pain to lug around if you're bank fishing.Maybe a separate compartment set- up?
On 3/17/2016 at 6:53 PM, N Florida Mike said:I'm still looking for a better solution.
But the biggest organizational problem I have is what to do with ACCESSORIES. ( knives, pliers,scales, sinkers,_hooks, sunglasses,etc.)
Buckets didn't work for me either but they collected spiders and frogs like crazy. Worked great for carrying a thermos though. I saw a 5 gal. bucket lid with molded in compartments that looked good to help. It just ended up too big too much stuff. The surf pouches that striper fishermen use walking the northern beaches works the best. d rings to hold grippers, slots for pliers and made of material resistant to catching hook points.
Hey guys!! I'm back. Sorry for the wait, but here we are. See the attached below. If you have time:
Please read this and vote on which one you think would be the best (pick #1 or #2).
Keep in mind that this would be for a trip where you only wanted to take a couple lures with you, and that you might have more than one of these "lure boxes" on your belt/waistband. Thanks guys!
Andrew
Try the link below: (the site wouldn't let me attach a picture that'd have enough detail for y'all to use. Sorry).
https://drive.google.com/a/ncsu.edu/file/d/0B0Sl9BpJ2JqJVlo2bDhZT1duLUk/view?usp=sharing
Don't see an attachment!
Try the link. If it does't work, let me know. Thanks. And sorry I tried to scan the sketch at the lowest resolution I could but the file size was still too large.
You have to have permission to view someone else's google drive doc
https://issuu.com/andrewkeel/docs/lurebox1/1
Aanother idea . To store spinnerbaits put them all in fire extinguisher tag covers . I can take a photo if anyone wants to see . I put two or three in a cover then lay then in a box with no dividers . It will hold a bunch with no tangles and easy to see . Theres a hole in the covers so they may be nifty in your design . Just put a ring through them .
I like 2 better but i think it extends too far down where stuff might fall out. 2 but with some sort of brace to keep it from opening up past say, 30 degrees might be better!
First off, that is a fantastic drawing, and looks like a terrific product if I was going adventuring/hiking. As far as improvements, instead of going over a belt, I would consider more of a clip that could fit over and be secured to any style of pants, or maybe have the belt be built in to it so it could be worn with anything. As others have said I would add a place to hold pliers/line cutter. And with many hard lures having long plastic lips on them, I would increase the size of the holders.
With a product this small, I think it will be very difficult to fit everyone's wants because there are so many options and opinions and not a lot of room to include them all. You'll have to weigh the pros and cons and try to create the best you can, to accommodate as many anglers as you can.
If you are looking for inspiration, pretty much everything that was mentioned i have seen a variant of in the fly fishing world. I use my fly fishing chest pack quite often when i am wading with my conventional gear.
Speaking of new pack designs, I wish there were more variety in the Plano/Flambeau boxes available. All of them have the basic same designs with little variety.
I liked your first post design better than the "blue" ones. As others have said, I would not use something without a place to hold pliers. The only other thing that jumps out at me is that whatever design used, there needs to be a wide clip to attach to your waistband. I rarely wear belts, so the "box" would have to attach securely to any waistband and be comfortable.
Bruce
On 4/26/2016 at 8:04 AM, scaleface said:Aanother idea . To store spinnerbaits put them all in fire extinguisher tag covers . I can take a photo if anyone wants to see . I put two or three in a cover then lay then in a box with no dividers . It will hold a bunch with no tangles and easy to see . Theres a hole in the covers so they may be nifty in your design . Just put a ring through them .
Would you mind posting a photo of one. I googled "fire extinguisher tag covers," but didn't find much.
On 4/28/2016 at 2:21 AM, Andrew the Design Student said:Would you mind posting a photo of one. I googled "fire extinguisher tag covers," but didn't find much.
Here you go .
Oh, cool. Thanks man.
As far as a bass fishing approach I think you are trying to re-invent the wheel. I don't think it would ever be marketable for bass anglers, we simply carry too much tackle. Instead, I would switch gears towards trout and wading fishermen.
for most of us bass fishermen, a backpack works well. You can carry 3-4 3700 series boxes or just a few baits and plastics with hardly any weight. The issue with a backpack is you have to set it down to get into it, which this product solves but 99% of the time I have a place to set the backpack down and get what I need.
For wading fishermen, you can't set the backpack down. The other two "competition" items are the creel (basket or purse that is held over the shoulder and holds gear/fish) and the vest. I HATE wearing my vest when its hot out, and I hate having something over my shoulder. Your product has merit here. You could make two versions I would imagine, one to hold spinners and small lures, and the other to hold jarred bait and terminal tackle/live bait.
Yes, bass fishermen wade too! I do it quite a bit actually.. but I don't think there are enough wading bass fishermen that would be interested in the product to make it marketable. Maybe as a custom hobby/business, but not as a mass marketable item. Maybe 1% of bass fishermen wade, but 90% of trout fishermen wade... one has a market, the other doesnt IMO.
Dont know how to explain this, i had this idea once. Id love to have a clip on tray that hold 2 of the real small plano boxes. One for terminal tackle, one for baits. Just slide the boxes in and out through the top
Hey guys! Well, I finished the project, and I just wanted to say thank you all so much for your feedback. It was really helpful and definitely helped guide the design of this product. One side-note-I didn't have time to add something for pliers, but if i did more design work on this concept, that'd be one of the first things I'd address. Thanks again guys! Check out some sketches and the final concept on my Facebook page. Have a great day!
Andrew
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1326404447373200&set=pcb.1326410504039261&type=3&theater
I actually use something similar that I made myself, just not as nice looking...
I took some industrial grade plastic bags and attached 6 of them with a belt clip that I put through a metal Grommet that I placed in the corner of each bag. The Clip is pretty big, but I can carry about 10 bags of plastics, plenty of terminal tackle, and a few lures from each category. I keep it on my belt when fishiing at all times since I keep my favorite baits in the bags...It comes in handy on a boat and from shore...
I like the way you are thinking...The bags I use have held up now for about 2 years, they are the same type you find in the worm binders....I use twist Ties from Bread bags to tie up my trebles or I simply wrap them in sandwich bags and slip them inside...I would think having slots like a surf casting bag would be good, alot of guys put PVC in the box for the waste, and hang all the plugs, but most of the one's I have used are pretty crude...A cover would be nice, and waterproof is a huge plus...