You know how some spinnerbaits have an open eye (termination point) and others are closed.
I prefer the closed as its slightly easier to tie...
Am I missing anything?
doesn't matter to me, never noticed a difference in tying but i also don't throw them that often.
I've had some break off when the line got wrapped around and pinched off. I always use the "R" bend type now. However, the guys that fish with wire leader will use the twist ties with snaps.
I prefer the R bend. Probably just a confidence thing.
I prefer the closed as well. Just personal preference I guess
I prefer the closed eye because I usually use the Mustard Fastach clips to attach my hardbaits. Most brands don't have them, unfortunately.
Tight lines,
Bob
Don't care one way or the other
More concerned with blades & swivels
If I'm ripping it through weeds give me a closed bend... if open water a R-bend.
oe
I have a bunch of both in the tackle box. Carry overs from my FL days of fishing in the grass. Either one is fine with me. Tying them isn't a problem as I use a Palomar knot 100% of the time. Casting the closed end in the wind can be annoying when they roll over but other than that I have no issues with either style.
I prefer closed because you can use thinner wire, which results in more vibration. R-bend lures need thicker wires, relatively speaking.
I'll always use the "R" bend after losing what was a very large fish because the line got caught in the loop. I make my own spinnerbaits from scratch and the wire I use is .032 for 1/2oz and 3/8oz baits and .035 for 1/2oz and heavier, and the only bait with a closed loop that I know of that uses thinner wire is the Picasso Inviz wire spinnerbait at .028 but it isn't SS but a special heat treated wire and the loop is coiled and not twisted. Other than that the closed loop and "R" bend wires are pretty much the same as most use either SS or piano wire in the .032 to .035 range.
Ok, so if you want thinner wire, you either get closed loop, or make them yourself. I don't have enough talent to make them myself.
I prefer the R type but use both. The reason is, I use the trilene knot most of the time . I found that the loop on spinnerbaits usually isnt tight and touching itself like on a split ring and after many cast can loosen the knot . No big problem because I just use a palomar on the looped ones .
I like closed loop the best. I take a small piece of shrink wrap & heat it to close the open loop design. It works like a charm.
On 11/27/2015 at 2:19 AM, Glenn said:Ok, so if you want thinner wire, you either get closed loop, or make them yourself. I don't have enough talent to make them myself.
Buy Stanley Spinner Baits & you will have all the flash & vibration possible!
Closed eye, I can't tie knots easily. I use ball bearing locking snap swivels. I have a hard time tying in the sunlit at night forget about it.
I'm surprised the spinnerbait manufacturers haven't figured out they would get higher sales with closed eyes.
I filled a box with Mann's classic spinnerbaits. Closed eyes.
On 11/27/2015 at 10:53 AM, bigbill said:I'm surprised the spinnerbait manufacturers haven't figured out they would get higher sales with closed eyes.
They wouldn't. Most people don't use snap swivels on spinnerbaits.
Thanks everyone, lots to think about!
I use both but I have had some of the r bend break on me. One of my favorie spinnerbaits, Mr. Hootie, uses the twisted eye and also old type rubber skirts.
I prefer the R bend for the same reason as smalljaw67, because the line sometimes get caught in the coil of the closed eye style.
I've been buying Barlow's painted spinnerbait heads for years now and assemble them.
The wire diameters run heavier on these than other brands - .035 on 1/4 & 3/8 oz. and .040 on 1/2 oz. I've caught enough big, feisty smallies on these to know that they are quite capable of bending these heavier wires so I do not plan to lighten up any time soon!
I like the R bend because I can tie them on faster but really don't care either way, I prefer the one that's getting bit.
I find most spinnerbait brands I prefer have the closed loop. I've had knots slip down on the R bends before, too.
Closed for me.
Josh
I use mostly the R bend because that's the way Terminator makes them. I have transitioned to tying them directly to the line so they don't foul as they will with snaps. Only takes a few seconds longer.
While all I currently own is R bend because to be honest is all I have seen in stores, I would much prefer closed loop. I like to use either Norman speed clips or quickswirl snaps for cranks and would prefer that for spinnerbaits too. While I don't change baits a lot I like the convenience of a snap when you need to change baits quickly when working an area.
If I'm fishing for pike, or waters that are predominantly filled with pike, then a closed loop: they are a necessity when fishing with a leader.
I don't mind either, but I prefer the closed, especially when tying a Palomar.
I prefer closed, but I don't mind either kind. I'm curious though, does anyone else ever have the problem of your line sliding up or down the wire of the lure on the open ones? It's usually not too big of a hassle when it's happened to me. But I can remember at least one occasion where it happened multiple times, which made for a number of wasted casts since it messes up the action of the lure if it slides very far.
On 11/29/2015 at 10:31 AM, Missourifishin said:I prefer closed, but I don't mind either kind. I'm curious though, does anyone else ever have the problem of your line sliding up or down the wire of the lure on the open ones? It's usually not too big of a hassle when it's happened to me. But I can remember at least one occasion where it happened multiple times, which made for a number of wasted casts since it messes up the action of the lure if it slides very far.
If you slide a split ring over the eye before you tie on it can't go anywhere.
On 11/29/2015 at 12:13 PM, badhatharry said:If you slide a split ring over the eye before you tie on it can't go anywhere.
Good point. There are some things you can do to prevent it. Given the choice though, not having to mess with the non- closed eye ones is still my preference, mainly for that reason. But I have box full of both kinds anyway.
Closed. I have several different types and brands but I always go back to the good old H&H spinners. They're closed and I use them with a swivel or clip. Just switch until I find the color and blade configuration that bass want. I pretty much have no need for any other brand
Same thing here. I use War Eagles and they are R bends. Not a big deal, I use an improved clinch knot (I fish Spinnerbaits on mono). Easy to tie and quick.On 11/29/2015 at 5:50 AM, MickD said:I use mostly the R bend because that's the way Terminator makes them. I have transitioned to tying them directly to the line so they don't foul as they will with snaps. Only takes a few seconds longer.
Y'all aint to good at tying knots
I use a Palomar & when cinched down properly that puppy don't slide!
I have always used open wire, and have never had any issues with it, except for the occasional wire/blade wrap that could happen with a closed eye just as easily.
I always use a uni knot for just about anything except for dropshotting.
Actually, every feature of a spinnerbait concerns me, and the line eyelet is no exception.
Though it was back in the 70s, and though it was just bluegill sunfish, I'll never forget the lesson.
We were on Greenwood Lake, NJ targeting bluegills with Beetle Spins dressed with green grubs.
Once the gills were located, it was pretty much a fish on every cast, but the closed eyelet contributed nothing to success.
During about 25% of my casts, the line got wrapped around the closed eyelet!
That would be the last day I ever cast a spinnerbait that didn't have an open R-bend eyelet.
Not coincidentally, I noticed that R-bend spinners have virtually displaced looped eyelet spinners.
Roger
On 11/30/2015 at 8:10 AM, RoLo said:Actually, every feature of a spinnerbait concerns me, and the line eyelet is no exception.
Though it was back in the 70s, and though it was just bluegill sunfish, I'll never forget the lesson.
We were on Greenwood Lake, NJ targeting bluegills with Beetle Spins dressed with green grubs.
Once the gills were located, it was pretty much a fish on every cast, but the closed eyelet contributed nothing to success.
During about 25% of my casts, the line got wrapped around the closed eyelet!
That would be the last day I ever cast a spinnerbait that didn't have an open R-bend eyelet.
Not coincidentally, I noticed that R-bend spinners have virtually displaced looped eyelet spinners.
Roger
Good point Roger,
That is one of the things that annoy me with regards to the looped/closed eyelet. Now bigger spinnerbaits used for pike/muskie are fine with a a closed eye because you're probably using a snap or leader.
I do find the open R bend slightly harder to tie but that's most likely because most of my spinnerbaits have the closed eye. Something to practice over the winter months.