Stupid Rig - Weedless Tubes 2024
Dorado reply :
What tube jigs do you recommend for Weedless or stupid rigging tubes. Tubes were one of my top producers this year and I’m tired of snagging with exposed hooks Mostly use 2.5”-3.5” tube baits
BassinCNY reply :
I texas rig if I want to go weedless but tender tubes or power tubes are the two that I've found that work best for me. A double dipped and/or salted tube is too stiff for a good hookset when texas rigged. Although I don't know if I've tried stupid rigging with a softer tube now that I think of it. Either way I also like the fact that I can texas rig with a Gamakatsu EWG hook. It gives me the confidence to know that if I lose a fish it's because I screwed up and not the hook.
FryDog62 reply :
I prefer the Owner Phantom Hook vs. Stupid style... but both can work..
ghost reply :
What's a stupid rig? Is there a pic available?
Djohn reply :
I've used the stupid tube with good results but i've had better success using Oldham's Weedless Tube-Lure. I fish in rivers with a lot of snags and the Oldham's holds up better. The guard doesn't seem to bother the fish.
tander reply :
Try the Shaw Grigsby HP hook.
https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Eagle_Claw_Shaw_Grigsby_HP_Hook_6pk/descpage-ECHPT.html
Oregon Native reply :
Have used the shaw myself but like the gitzit glider style better. TW has them. They are flat with a hole at the top...slide them in...take an EWG hook and run through kind of like a Texas style and your set.
roadwarrior reply :
Owner Phantom Hooks
Team9nine reply :
Owner Phantom's look neat, a modern upgrade to the original Mister Twister design style, but it's not for "Stupid Tube" rigging. To the best of my knowledge, the Stupid Tube style was developed right here in Indiana. I've had the pleasure of fishing with some of the originators over the years. Anyway, Bite Me, Secret Lures and HCT (Honey Creek) all sell jighead versions locally, though once you've seen the design, I'm sure you can find other similar brands.
Some videos on rigging here: https://www.secretlures.com/videos-with-tips-and-tricks-for-lures/#thestupidtube
NYWayfarer reply :
I use Arkie Jerky Head jigheads found in Walmart for less than $3
FryDog62 reply :
The reason I prefer the Owner Phantom Hook over the Stupid Rig is because the Owner distributes the weight more evenly for a more realistic horizontal fall vs. the nose-weighted Stupid Rig.
Tennessee Boy reply :
I need to learn more about this Stupid Rig. Sound's like something I would be good at ????.
the reel ess reply :
On 12/21/2018 at 4:13 PM, ghost said:What's a stupid rig? Is there a pic available?
See youtube
Gundog reply :
On 12/21/2018 at 4:13 PM, ghost said:What's a stupid rig? Is there a pic available?
On 12/21/2018 at 11:09 PM, the reel ess said:See youtube
Beat me to it.
Catt reply :
fishwizzard reply :
I have some of the Owener Phantoms and the hooks on them seem way too thick for the tacke I fish tubes on. I found some stupid-tube jigs on ebay with thinner hooks, there are a few different vendors.
I ended up giving up on all tube rigging methods other then Sled/Draggin/Crawler heads. They are fast to change out plastics, give great hooksets, and are very snagless.
scaleface reply :
On 12/21/2018 at 11:29 PM, fishwizzard said:Sled/Draggin/Crawler heads
I googled that and didnt find anything fishing related
J Francho reply :
On 12/22/2018 at 1:08 AM, scaleface said:I googled that and didnt find anything fishing related
Here you go: http://confidencebaits.net/index.html
heavyduty reply :
Cadman's finesse tube jig w/weedguard. I throw a lot of 2.5-2.75" tubes for river smallies and these on a 1/0 hook do the trick.
River Rock and Fitt Lures also sell the "sled" style heads.
FryDog62 reply :
On 12/21/2018 at 11:29 PM, fishwizzard said:I have some of the Owener Phantoms and the hooks on them seem way too thick for the tacke I fish tubes on. I found some stupid-tube jigs on ebay with thinner hooks, there are a few different vendors.
I ended up giving up on all tube rigging methods other then Sled/Draggin/Crawler heads. They are fast to change out plastics, give great hooksets, and are very snagless.
Is this the Sled Head you use?
https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/owner-sled-head™-hooks-4-pack#repChildCatid=23143?campID=642952267&groupID=31323544038&device=m&productID=010951747&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvcvpk8ix3wIVR8DICh2WYA-gEAQYCCABEgIFEvD_BwE
fishwizzard reply :
On 12/22/2018 at 1:08 AM, scaleface said:I googled that and didnt find anything fishing related
Oh, sorry, I thought the terms where in more common use, I’m talking about the style of head.
http://confidencebaits.3dcartstores.com/Draggin-Head_c_11.html
https://river-rock-custom-baits.myshopify.com/products/crawler-head-jig
They’re very expensive but as they become more common the price seems to be coming down, I get mine for a dollar per head unpainted from a guy in a smallmouth forum.
Bluebasser86 reply :
I pour my own, about the only way I can fish a tube through the rocks with zebra mussels all over them.
FishTank reply :
I got to go with the Phantom Owner hooks. I still may get one caught once in a while but it's way better than the alternative.
heavyduty reply :
On 12/23/2018 at 1:55 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I pour my own, about the only way I can fish a tube through the rocks with zebra mussels all over them.
May I ask the number of this mold and will it accept 1/0 hooks? Thanks!
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 12/24/2018 at 2:31 AM, heavyduty said:May I ask the number of this mold and will it accept 1/0 hooks? Thanks!
I haven't tried anything as small as a 1/0. I pretty much use a 3/0 exclusively as it fits a 3.5-4 inch tube perfectly.
Munkin reply :
Has anyone tried a casting weight t-rigged yet.
Allen
scaleface reply :
On 12/25/2018 at 1:36 AM, Munkin said:Has anyone tried a casting weight t-rigged yet.
Allen
Thats how I usually rig them but want to try this stupid set-up next year .
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 12/25/2018 at 1:36 AM, Munkin said:Has anyone tried a casting weight t-rigged yet.
Allen
Snags badly in the rocks and pushes the line down into the zebra mussels so almost every hookset results in a break off.
Sam reply :
On 12/21/2018 at 4:13 PM, ghost said:What's a stupid rig? Is there a pic available?
As you have seen above, the "Stupid Rig" is nothing more than a Texas rigged jig head setup in a tube.
Ike has used this setup for years as have other pros.
If you really want to do something crazy with a tube try this:
Stuff a quarter of an Alka-Seltzer tablet in the tube and then put some cotton (not much) in the tube to hold the Alka-Seltzer in place. Makes bubbles.
Take a cotton ball and soak in your favorite scent and stuff it inside your tube. Leaves a nice scent trail for the bass to follow.
Always try to put the tip of the hook back under the tube's skin if possible. You want to make the tube weedless, or "Stupid."
Have fun!
Log Catcher reply :
On the rare times I use a tube I have them Texas rigged. I haven't noticed them getting hung op any more than any other soft plastic would. I am usually on my last act of desperation to catch fish when I use them.
BassNJake reply :
On 12/21/2018 at 4:13 PM, ghost said:What's a stupid rig? Is there a pic available?
scaleface reply :
On 12/27/2018 at 1:36 AM, BassNJake said:
I havent tried the stupid rig yet and in these photos it appears the hook is too long .It reaches the tentacles and cannot be pushed through the main body . Am I wrong ?
BassNJake reply :
On 12/27/2018 at 2:02 AM, scaleface said:I havent tried the stupid rig yet and in these photos it appears the hook is too long .It reaches the tentacles and cannot be pushed through the main body . Am I wrong ?
You are correct. Diagram(not mine) was to show how the hook end is inserted first and where to bring the point of the hook out of the tube. This part will take some trial and error to make sure the head of the jig is all the way to the top of the tube.
moguy1973 reply :
I use the stupid heads from BlueRock Tackle. They are designed specifically for stupid rigging tubes.
http://www.bluerocktackle.com/store/p16/Stupid_Tube_Hook_(10_pack).html
OnthePotomac reply :
I do like and use the stupid rig on tubes, but I mostly Texas rig my tube on a 3/0 EWG Gammie and a pegged 3/16 slip sinker. The only way I fished my tube until the stupid rig came along. Both have a place.
Bankbeater reply :
A lot of the ponds that I fish are choked with weeds. When I’m fishing with a tube, I’ll usually have it t-rigged.
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