I sadly haven't personally ever caught a fish on a jig. Its one of my goals this year to practice fishing a jig more as I usually just fish a t-rigged soft plastic of some sort. I understand that both jig and t-rig fishing have many different techniques you can use, but the way I usually fish my t-rigs is just to let my t-rig sink and twitch or drag it back to the boat with some pauses. My understanding is that a jig can be fished in this exact same manner. My question is, what determines whether you guys with more experience throw one or the other? Is it mostly a preference thing?
Jigs catch bigger fish, they are more compact. T rig, I go with it when they want something a little easier to eat or I want to catch numbers. Don't get me wrong, they both catch big fish but most of the time that's your big fish catcher is a jig. I caught my pb last year on a 3/8 ounce football jig. I would say give them both a good try and you will catch fish with both. There are times when one will do better than the other depending on the conditions.
Good luck bro
On 5/9/2018 at 11:29 PM, All about da bass said:Jigs catch bigger fish
Generally, I agree with this, but my PB came on a T-Rig. That's an anecdote, not a data trend, though.
For me, it's all about MY mood, cover present, and what I'm getting bit on (fish's mood). I've had a good jig bite go south, and the T-rig bite come on.
On 5/9/2018 at 11:34 PM, J Francho said:Generally, I agree with this, but my PB came on a T-Rig. That's an anecdote, not a data trend, though.
For me, it's all about MY mood, cover present, and what I'm getting bit on (fish's mood). I've had a good jig bite go south, and the T-rig bite come on.
Agreed, same way with a chatter bait spinner bait situation. I've been catching most of my fish with t rigs this time of year for some reason.
In seems to me the average fish caught on a jig is bigger than a Texas rig . Texas rigs catch just as many big fish but also more smaller fish , so the average is smaller . I dont fish jigs as much as Texas rigs because I like numbers and big fish .
2 setups on my deck 24/7/365
Texas Rig & Jig-n-Craw
I fish em exactly the same!
I don't see a difference in size caught by either one.
I think reason some see a difference is because they're one more that the other.
On 5/10/2018 at 1:36 AM, Catt said:I fish em exactly the same!
I think I do, but in reality I'm probably slower with the jig, and faster with the T-rig. It's not intentional, just works out that way, if I take a look at myself. THAT might explain the size thing, too. I should probably dial the T-rig back a bit and slow down.
You use all types of soft plastics from craws, creatures and worms on both jigs and T-rigs with a bullet weight. The T-rig with bullet weight is either a sliding weight or a pegged weight, straight or off set hook. Jigs are usually some sort of weedless head design or wobble head design of nearly unlimited varity. What I am getting to is more jig varieties then T-rigs.
For casting and retrieving a jig like a T-rigged worm for example my suggestion is strarting with a spider jig like GYCB twin tail 4" Hula grub on a 3/8 oz GYCB weedless plain football head, simple and very effective. Use the same or similar colors as your T-rig.
Tom
Since i'm pretty new to jig fishing i had to look up what you suggested Tom. The hula grub you referenced looks to me basically like a jig skirt and trailer all molded together as one unit, correct? Then you would just put it on a jig head.
Yes, plain painted jig head. GYCB football jigs are under $5 for 5 each and 10 each Hula Grubs about the same price as I recall. You don't worry about snagging them and can focus on strikes.
I prefer fishing jigs down hill or paraelell in rocky clay areas in lieu of uphill, T-rigged worms in flatter areas with breaks and softer bottom.
Tom
Thanks all for the input!
Looks like today Punch Rig but it comes a light as a 1/4 oz.
@A-Jay has a similar one
On 5/10/2018 at 4:10 AM, Catt said:Looks like today Punch Rig but it comes a light as a 1/4 oz.
I make them as light as 1/8th ounce .
On 5/10/2018 at 4:10 AM, Catt said:Looks like today Punch Rig but it comes a light as a 1/4 oz.
@A-Jay has a similar one
A-Jay
On 5/10/2018 at 3:51 AM, WRB said:Yes, plain painted jig head. GYCB football jigs are under $5 for 5 each and 10 each Hula Grubs about the same price as I recall. You don't worry about snagging them and can focus on strikes.
I prefer fishing jigs down hill or paraelell in rocky clay areas in lieu of uphill, T-rigged worms in flatter areas with breaks and softer bottom.
Tom
+1
The two major differences I see are profile/bulk, and contrast.
The skirt will add bulk to your bait. The bulk of the skirt can help you adjust your fall rate if your typical 3/8oz t-rig is falling too fast for the fish's mood. The skirt is also moving at least slightly while the jig is soaking, which is when most bites occur.
The skirt also helps adjust the overall color of your bait and can add contrast. Often times contrast is a what the fish seem to key in on. I find that contrast helps generate a bite when the fish are in one of their finicky moods...like when they are showing signs of activity, and react to your bait, but do not bite. Or when fish have green pumpkin baits falling on their heads all day, and then you come through with a green pumpkin trailer on a black or brown jig.
I catch fish on both jigs and t-rigs. To be honest, I prefer t-rigs because I get better hook-ups than with jigs. And it's convenient to swap baits rather than having to tie a new jig and rig a new trailer. Ultimately, if I feel I need to fish slower, I'll switch to the jig.
i like to stroke a t rigged worm on deep structure. there’s nothing like watching your line sink, stop, then take off again.
On 5/10/2018 at 6:46 AM, IgotWood said:The two major differences I see are profile/bulk, and contrast.
The skirt will add bulk to your bait. The bulk of the skirt can help you adjust your fall rate if your typical 3/8oz t-rig is falling too fast for the fish's mood. The skirt is also moving at least slightly while the jig is soaking, which is when most bites occur.
The skirt also helps adjust the overall color of your bait and can add contrast. Often times contrast is a what the fish seem to key in on. I find that contrast helps generate a bite when the fish are in one of their finicky moods...like when they are showing signs of activity, and react to your bait, but do not bite. Or when fish have green pumpkin baits falling on their heads all day, and then you come through with a green pumpkin trailer on a black or brown jig.
I catch fish on both jigs and t-rigs. To be honest, I prefer t-rigs because I get better hook-ups than with jigs. And it's convenient to swap baits rather than having to tie a new jig and rig a new trailer. Ultimately, if I feel I need to fish slower, I'll switch to the jig.
I fish jigs faster then T-rigs most of the time mimicking a panicked crawdad scooting for a hiding place. Tend move worms slower crawling through cover. Pace is something that needs to be tried as it always changing.
Tom
I fish a T-Rig when I want to cover an area and I'll work it all the way back to the boat. Except for a football jig, I work a jig in a very small area. Letting it fall and sit, or jigging it a couple of times before reeling in and hitting another target.
The #1 most productive technique; Texas Rigged plastics
The #2 most productive lure; Jig-n-Craw
Why y'all wanna restrict their productivity by limiting when, where, & how ya use em?
They can both be cast, pitched, flipped, & punched.
They're both productive winter, spring, summer, or fall.
They both catch Largemouth, Smallmouth, & Spots
Both can be thrown on any structure, in any cover, under any water conditions, & any weather pattern.
Y'all really wanna limit that? ????
On 5/10/2018 at 10:57 AM, papajoe222 said:I fish a T-Rig when I want to cover an area and I'll work it all the way back to the boat. Except for a football jig, I work a jig in a very small area. Letting it fall and sit, or jigging it a couple of times before reeling in and hitting another target.
Mine have developed similarly. Jigs are for pitching targets whereas I tend to drag T- rigs. I always fish T rigs unpegged so they tend to not pitch as accurately as jigs and they hang up more in timber.
Every giant bass I have caught on a jig the strike occurred over 100’ away, a long casting distance. I think you all are missing something!
Tom
On 5/11/2018 at 8:19 AM, WRB said:Every giant bass I have caught on a jig the strike occurred over 100’ away, a long casting distance. I think you all are missing something!
Tom
Please explain. I am obviously missing the point as I have no idea what your point is.
On 5/11/2018 at 8:57 AM, jbrew73 said:Please explain. I am obviously missing the point as I have no idea what your point is.
You can cast a jig a long distance and retrieve it horizontal along the bottom, it isn't always a verticle presented or short cast lure.
Tom
I'm voting for a wacky rigged worm just cause! :P
On 5/9/2018 at 11:22 PM, DRT said:My question is, what determines whether you guys with more experience throw one or the other? Is it mostly a preference thing?
I really don't think there is any factor that determines which one to throw. It's more of a comfort/confidence decision.
You'll figure it out for yourself once you gain some experience using both. The first time you reach for one rod and not the other without thinking about it, you'll know you're there.
On 5/9/2018 at 11:22 PM, DRT said:My question is, what determines whether you guys with more experience throw one or the other?
Is it mostly a preference thing?
Throw em both & let the bass tell ya which one they prefer!
This season I am giving a lot of time to “the classics”, a blue/black or GP jig with a craw trailer and a black or GP t-rigged worm. I have different versions of both for different rods but so far the jig is out fishing the worm by a good margin across all of them.
For reasons I have yet to figure out, I get a lot more feel with a jig vs a worm, even when the are close to the same weight. I still find it hard to get a sense of what the worm is doing down there while I am getting really good at “reading” the bottom with the jig.
Big fan of the open headed or football headed jig and a hula grub or craw.
For someone like you they combine the best of both worlds,
1) You're fishing a plastic on a hook just like a T-Rig
2) The weight is a jig head that sits with the bait so you feel the bait right where it is, not the weight.
Personally I would fish one that is a 1/4 or an 1/8 of an oz if you are in shallower water. I have a tendency to underestimate how fast a plastic or jig falls and then see it falling in the water and realize just how fast it falls to the bottom.
I always have one of each tied on but I will always grab the jig and fish it 99% of the time, it is just what I am more comfortable with. But if there is no jig bite I will definitely not hesitate to throw a T-Rig out there and fish it...
It’s hard to argue against the jig. It’s a proven bait that has passed the test of time of catching big fish.
On 5/10/2018 at 2:14 AM, WRB said:
For casting and retrieving a jig like a T-rigged worm for example my suggestion is strarting with a spider jig like GYCB twin tail 4" Hula grub on a 3/8 oz GYCB weedless plain football head, simple and very effective.
if you want to gain confidence in jig fishing try the yamamoto 4" hula grub. green pumpkin and you are good to go. this bait has caught fish from a 3.5 inch bluegill to a 6lb bass for me.
my favorite way to fish this bait is with a 1/4-3/8oz arky style jighead (non-heavy wire, plastic weedguard) on a MH baitcaster.
do combinations of pause, shake, drag, hop, swim until you notice a pattern. if you bump into a log or rock, shake it in place and pause. lightly pull it over the branch so it falls just in front of it. shake again.
On 5/15/2018 at 12:43 AM, bigfruits said:
a 1/4-3/8oz arky style jighead (non-heavy wire, plastic weedguard)
http://moanerhooks.com/product/316oz-predator-finesse-jig-head/
How do these look? I have been fishing some small jigs made on these heads and really like them, but am losing them at a good clip due to using light line. I think a bare head w/ a hula grub would be a cheaper option for current and snaggier spots.
i have not used those but those bait keepers look nice.
i have been using the cadman and elken arky jigheads the last few years and recommend them both.
cadman can pour you a true 7 gram arky jighead. add a light wire hook and you should be able to get away with light line. most "1/4oz" arky jigheads are 9 grams or so and have pretty thick hooks.
you can also use a premade skirted jig or add your own skirt to those jigheads and just use a yamamoto DT grub (non hula). you can find bulk bags on sale of limited colors here:
https://www.overstockbait.com/
sieberts jigs are great but last time i checked (over a year ago) they did not have light wire arky jigheads.
IMO the arky head seems like the best all around style for most conditions. football heads are great and give you a great rocking and dragging motion (90% of my deep football jig fishing involves a DT grub) but can get hung up a bit in some rocky areas. large round rock or gravel shouldnt be an issue.
I fish both with great success. My best and most quality bites no doubt come on a jig though. I stick with 3/8 and 1/2 oz for 90% of my jig fishing and prefer the colors of pb&j, green pumpkin, or a sunfish (bream/bluegill) color. There’s something about a flaired skirt drifting slowly through cover that the big mouths just can’t resist.
That's like asking do I want to keep my left or my right hand, they are both a necessity.
They both catch fish.