Has anybody fished this bait yet? I would like to hear what you think of it. Please refrain from complaining over the massive asking price of $13 I am just curious what the guys think of it who have fished it.
I saw it on bass pro website but decided on grabbing 2 whopper ploppers instead. .
On 1/17/2016 at 2:30 PM, Mattlures said:Has anybody fished this bait yet? I would like to hear what you think of it. Please refrain from complaining over the massive asking price of $13 I am just curious what the guys think of it who have fished it.
I have thrown this bait several times already, and I have to say I really like them. They have a unique way of moving through the water, due to its design. It's also a hefty bait, so it can be launched quite a ways. Unfortunately, however, I have yet to have a decent blowup yet to test those trokar hooks. It's not the bait isn't attractive, its just not the right season for my area yet. In the next couple of months, I think this bait will produce very big strikes.
The 2 things that I found interesting are: 1. why the bait takes on water so quickly. The action is not effected, but every other cast you have to squeeze out the water. 2. The lures counter balance was not painted white or some other color to blend with the bait. The disc weight is a plain lead, contrasting against the bait color's like a sore thumb.
But, like I said. The action of this bait is very intriguing to me, and I will continue to throw it.
I have one coming tuesday, ill give a review of it once i get it!
I just grabbed one in each size and have only tested it but I like the action as it has an arch, and it is a bit harder than a LT Frog, more like a Spro Frog material which I like since the Trokar Hooks are money & it makes a nice jumping/slashing action due to the shape.
I like it. The Weight is in middle of body and some have complained about it, but it adds silver flash, but I colored mine to match the baits and made one red...I like the action of the bigger model, the small one is small...Dicks just had them for only $12.99 and the detail is great imo for that price. They Seem just right, not too soft, not too hard but I only took a few casts which each and liked what I saw. Can't imagine them not working, but looking forward to using them soon. So many colors.....
Mine is suppose to be coming tomrrow.....
Take it out of the package and look at the bottom side. When you see the shiny weight then you can decide from there.
for a company who's entire marketing and design [ and price point] is based on lure realism... They did a tick poor job. I did not buy
I have to say, of all the lures I buy, I am the most skeptical with this one. It seems to border on the line of gimmicky and genius (sometimes that line is VERY thin)
It's a great idea, and I can see how being a hollow topwater it'll generate strikes, but I'm just not sure how often. Time will tell. I also thought a Jackall Pompadour or R2S Whopper Plopper would be gimmicky, but they shut my mouth pretty quickly.
Mine's one of the colors that seem to be hard to keep in stock, and I'm on a backorder list. Can't fish it right now anyways, it'd just skip across the ice
On 1/17/2016 at 9:38 PM, LastCast721 said:I saw it on bass pro website but decided on grabbing 2 whopper ploppers instead. .
You won't be sorry. Those things look goofy but man they catch fish
On 1/19/2016 at 9:34 PM, Preytorien said:R2S Whopper Plopper would be gimmicky, but they shut my mouth pretty quickly.
Whopper Plopper is just another rendition of a bait that has been around for a very long time and catching millions of fish. Glad to see you proved yourself wrong. It's flat out fun to fish even up to the big 190 size for Musky
On 1/19/2016 at 2:37 PM, Ginosocalbass said:Take it out of the package and look at the bottom side. When you see the shiny weight then you can decide from there.
for a company who's entire marketing and design [ and price point] is based on lure realism... They did a tick poor job. I did not buy
I agree with this, but I bought it anyways... lol... I will stop here however, respecting the OP's wishes of not getting into a pricepoint discussion.
On 1/19/2016 at 9:36 PM, MarkH024 said:Whopper Plopper is just another rendition of a bait that has been around for a very long time and catching millions of fish. Glad to see you proved yourself wrong. It's flat out fun to fish even up to the big 190 size for Musky
I can't wait to try it out..
On 1/19/2016 at 10:47 PM, LastCast721 said:I can't wait to try it out..
You won't be disappointed. I don't know what makes the bass like em' but they do
I now have one in my hands
Matt, apologies up front -I haven't fished it (and almost certainly won't). I see it as a pricey gimmick.
Bass will eat almost anything pulled on/through dense veges. It's not "frogs" they're after most of the time either. A bluegill bait is closer to the truth much of the time but one lying on it's side (bc that's the easy way to make it) isn't it either. The vids of it were far from impressive (esp if you shut off the music and hype talk); It moved the way one would expect a center-weighted pancake to move -rotating back and forth around the weight. Yeah, it'll catch some bass -heck it moves some water up there. But if it manages to outperform other hollow-body topwaters it's in spite of the fact it looks like a bluegill to the human eye rather than bc of it.
I agree 100% about bass not knowing your bait is a Frog most of the time, just like I always wonder what they think my ribbon tail worm is that they love? I do like the unique colors and shape of the bait, and if it can give a different look during the post spawn when bass are targeting Bluegill, then I think it may add a few strikes.
I don't know why the weight is bothering people. How many natural Zara Spooks have you seen swimming on the surface with 3 treble hooks hanging below? And that is in open water for most part. Black and blue soft baits? Never seen one swimming around yet. Scum Frog makes some killer hollow body frogs in the Trophy line that have a large Brass shiny weight and big shiny eyes and my best producing color is the blue body with a chart silicone skirt. I think the flash is a benefit at times, and like a bullet weight, simply color it with a sharpie....
I colored one weight red because the Bobby's perfect bleeding frog has always been a favorite of mine, and maybe it is the red hooks, but a wounded panfish with a target may help. I can color over it again. I colored one grey/black and it looks like every other hollow belly since they need a weight or everyone would be complaining about casting distance. Is it better than a hollow belly frog? Maybe, maybe not, but I like buying cool looking stuff. Live Target frogs are top quality, so I will give them a fair chance, the colors are fantastic as is the shape and detail. Add in Trokar hooks and it is actually a good deal since most frogs are $10.
just my opinion, I am sure they will work, and if it gives me confidence on a certain day, then the purchase was worth it, $13 is cheap compared to $10 frogs with what you get imo. I am just as guilty as the next guy as being a sucker for buying lures that look good, but Koppers did well on the frog so they deserve a chance on the sunfish. If they colored every weight to match the lure, production costs would rise and lure would be $25, sharpies do amazing things really fast. Sunfish have spots all over the place that are not the same on every fish anyhow. So I like how it looks in my collection.
On 1/19/2016 at 11:09 PM, Preytorien said:You won't be disappointed. I don't know what makes the bass like em' but they do
I have a gift card from the Holidays burning a hole in my pocket and I can't decide what to buy since I am stocked up well at the moment, but I have been thinking about buying a whopper Plopper for long time now. I noticed They carry them and was wondering what size is best? Does the 90 run ok or is the bigger size better in your opinion? I thought it was a gimmick as well but finally reading your post convinced me it is worth a shot on a gift card. I do like a few colors they have. Any advice would help, I don't want to buy a size that runs off if the bigger version is better.
Ok, pictures, decide for yourself, i think it is very cool! This is, btw, the three inch, and i wish i had got the 3.5. I have more pics if you want them!
On 1/20/2016 at 3:45 AM, Kevin Beachy said:Ok, pictures, decide for yourself, i think it is very cool! This is, btw, the three inch, and i wish i had got the 3.5. I have more pics if you want them!
I think you should also buy the bigger model then.They are pure Eye Candy.I agree, they look awesome. I saw them on the end cap at Dicks, and I couldn't make rational decisions at that point since I was caught off guard. Then I see the Molix Beetle and it was trouble...I just wonder about hook up percentage with all the extra plastic for the tail etc...I figure coat it with Megastrike and they will crush it down so you get a good hook set. with the Mouse, you have to really bend the hooks up to not hook material on many sets, but once adjusted that is a winner as well imo. I am sure it will be fun to fish like all topwater baits and lures.
Anyone use the Picasso Shad Walker? I bet it would be similar to that right? would love to hear anyone who has thrown that bait....
On 1/20/2016 at 2:54 AM, primetime said:I have a gift card from the Holidays burning a hole in my pocket and I can't decide what to buy since I am stocked up well at the moment, but I have been thinking about buying a whopper Plopper for long time now. I noticed They carry them and was wondering what size is best? Does the 90 run ok or is the bigger size better in your opinion? I thought it was a gimmick as well but finally reading your post convinced me it is worth a shot on a gift card. I do like a few colors they have. Any advice would help, I don't want to buy a size that runs off if the bigger version is better.
I think about any size is good. Here in Indiana I don't normally see fish north of 5-6lbs, so I went with the 90 size to just get more frequent hookups and I like it very well. Others will say go a size bigger since bass aren't too discriminatory, especially large ones you'll get down in FL. As for color, I got one that was darker in color since my buzzbaits tend to produce more when they're darker, but I don't think it matters quite so much.
They don't look to bad, but I feel it's gimiky (if that's a word). I also don't believe its going to be a magic lure, I also believe that if a fish will hit this that same fish would hit a hollow frog without hesitation. IMHO live target is more worried about their products catching the fisherman instead of the fish, and this is why I don't own any of their products.
Ok Thanks, I will go 90mm then...I am not a confident person with buzzbaits so I will go smaller to start so I get more action. I purchased way too many big swimbaits and then found out I am not a patient person. I wasn't sure the 90 was good but glad to hear it...I have a Loon Color in my cart right now, I don't know what else to get at Bass Pro since they seem to be a bit more expensive than most, and I don't need any new tackle really. I figure I use it to buy some new Toys.
Thx.
On 1/20/2016 at 3:58 AM, MDBowHunter said:They don't look to bad, but I feel it's gimiky (if that's a word). I also don't believe its going to be a magic lure, I also believe that if a fish will hit this that same fish would hit a hollow frog without hesitation. IMHO live target is more worried about their products catching the fisherman instead of the fish, and this is why I don't own any of their products.
I agree about Live Target when it comes to hardbaits and baitballs...I do like their frogs however, not my favorite, but a quallity bait for the money. I will admit that I am an easy target for tackle companies, good packaging is all it takes in a retail setting....
On 1/20/2016 at 3:58 AM, MDBowHunter said:IMHO live target is more worried about their products catching the fisherman instead of the fish, and this is why I don't own any of their products.
All big brands are out to catch fishermen. That's how they make millions. And they leave it to the pros who represent them to show that their products work on the water by catching fish/winning tournaments, in result making more money for the company. Business is business.
I love their frogs, field mice and some cranks. They make a quality product and have resulted in countless numbers for me.
Not sure why the gill is being called gimmicky. Bluegill get injured and sometimes die slowly at the surface. Sometimes they flip themselves up in mats or pads and swim/flop on their side to get back in the water. It's no different than a spook imitating a baitfish, why's that not gimmicky? Ill be trying it this summer.
It's not first on my list. Not like the new Matt Rat! Patiently waiting Matt!Hook a brother up!
On 1/17/2016 at 9:38 PM, LastCast721 said:I saw it on bass pro website but decided on grabbing 2 whopper ploppers instead. .
I was at BassPro last week and bought the sunfish and two whopper Poppers, a 90 and 110. So far only used the Whopper 90 and immediately lost it on 3rd or 4th cast:(
I need to wait a while for topwater bite to begin.
On 1/20/2016 at 3:58 AM, MDBowHunter said:I also believe that if a fish will hit this that same fish would hit a hollow frog without hesitation.
I think this is a fair statement. However, I still bought one as variety is the spice of life.
On 1/20/2016 at 3:59 AM, primetime said:Ok Thanks, I will go 90mm then...I am not a confident person with buzzbaits so I will go smaller to start so I get more action. I purchased way too many big swimbaits and then found out I am not a patient person. I wasn't sure the 90 was good but glad to hear it...I have a Loon Color in my cart right now, I don't know what else to get at Bass Pro since they seem to be a bit more expensive than most, and I don't need any new tackle really. I figure I use it to buy some new Toys.
Thx.
Loon is exactly the color I have, the fish seem to like it
On 1/20/2016 at 9:31 AM, MarkH024 said:Not sure why the gill is being called gimmicky. Bluegill get injured and sometimes die slowly at the surface. Sometimes they flip themselves up in mats or pads and swim/flop on their side to get back in the water. It's no different than a spook imitating a baitfish, why's that not gimmicky?
Hope you're OK with me jumping off from your post. Not at all wanting to disparage anyone's excitement over a new lure -esp mid-winter! But... the accompanying infomercial vid I watched about this lure was memorable in its... ridiculousness. I'm responding more from the hyped up nature of the vid as any one here.
-Most bluegill I've seen injured and dying slowly at the surface did so bc they swallowed a worm on a hook. They aren't littered around out there for bass to pick off. And there are MUCH better ways to mimic -even suggest- a weakened or dying sunfish (to bass).
-Bluegills flipping up onto mats and pads (as they show in the video) is darn rare IME; not something either bass or angler could count on. I highly doubt the designers of this lure actually saw this frequently enough to imitate it. Instead, they simply made an eye-candy sunfish and put a double hook in it. Of course it lays flat and has virtually no action -esp something Spook-like. Now that would be getting somewhere.
-If it's no different than a Spook, this sunfish bait should catch just as well as a Spook in open water. And it won't. Probably the most effective trigger of a well-designed Spook-type bait is the direction change followed by the length of the glide.
The problem with designing a slop bait is the sheer density of veges. Not much you can do with a solid mat but make some disturbance (or punch through) and in the case of a topwater, almost anything can cause a blow-up. Now... break that mat of veges up some and triggering opportunities begin to happen. And a rotating pancake would not be my choice.
I strongly suspect that this lure is destined for the dark corners of tackle boxes everywhere. Or... maybe framed on a wall? But it would be a human wall, not a bass's.
Apologies to all possibly offended. Cabin fever is setting in.
First and foremost, no offense taken. At the end of the day, I don't really care the personal opinions of anyone here about their fishing choices. I'm good with what I know and what I do. So take this as a friendly discussion from me and shedding light from a different angle.
I see dying bluegill (sunfish) more often than you'd think, in pads/slop and open water. Come fish the midwest northern waters where Northern Pike are ferocious predators and are predominately the apex. So much that it can create a tough situation when targeting bass. You'll see fish with razor slits all over them from pike swiping at them. The fish may get away initially, but sooner or later they rise up and if you've ever fileted a live fish, they'll move around for quite some time.
The image below is not even in the dead of summer when the slop is at it's worst. (Wisconsin) I fish some pretty dense junk in the summer/fall months as do many others here. The water below me in that picture is probably 20 inches deep with your random holes that drop to 3-3.5 foot. Some areas get to 12 inches that I fish regularly and catch nice bass. There is enough areas of where the pads separate to open water allowing you to do the side to side (spook like action) with any slop bait, (frog, mice, LT Gill etc..). Is the new gill the best tool to use, maybe not. But it's exactly that, a tool. Often I see bluegill and even bass getting stuck up on these giant weed bogs simply chasing/being chased. You can bet when teh frog bite is dying and if I see any signs of gill breaking surface I'll be tying one on. The water is clear enough in the lake that they can certainly see differences in profiles and maybe that fish profile triggers a big bite. You can only eat so much frog legs and mice turds.
When I referenced spook, I meant the purpose of the bait is to replicate something similar to a fish at surface struggling and/or fleeing as is this new LT gill. I did not mean it was to have an exact walk the dog action. I personally will never throw this Gill in open water when i have a box of poppers, wake baits, cigar baits etc...that simply do a better job because it's the better tool for the job. I'm sure the gill would get bit too if presented correctly.
Good discussion, just don't think it's gimmicky. I see it as a new tool, a pretty tool at that and I have a nice collection of high dollar swimbaits that are mesmerizing to me. The new gill could be all solid black or white and it would probably produce the same, but that's not Live Targets deal. Their selling point is realism...and they do a d**n good job if you ask me.
On 1/21/2016 at 12:53 AM, Paul Roberts said:Hope you're OK with me jumping off from your post. Not at all wanting to disparage anyone's excitement over a new lure -esp mid-winter! But... the accompanying infomercial vid I watched about this lure was memorable in its... ridiculousness. I'm responding more from the hyped up nature of the vid as any one here.
-Most bluegill I've seen injured and dying slowly at the surface did so bc they swallowed a worm on a hook. They aren't littered around out there for bass to pick off. And there are MUCH better ways to mimic -even suggest- a weakened or dying sunfish (to bass).
-Bluegills flipping up onto mats and pads (as they show in the video) is darn rare IME; not something either bass or angler could count on. I highly doubt the designers of this lure actually saw this frequently enough to imitate it. Instead, they simply made an eye-candy sunfish and put a double hook in it. Of course it lays flat and has virtually no action -esp something Spook-like. Now that would be getting somewhere.
-If it's no different than a Spook, this sunfish bait should catch just as well as a Spook in open water. And it won't. Probably the most effective trigger of a well-designed Spook-type bait is the direction change followed by the length of the glide.
The problem with designing a slop bait is the sheer density of veges. Not much you can do with a solid mat but make some disturbance (or punch through) and in the case of a topwater, almost anything can cause a blow-up. Now... break that mat of veges up some and triggering opportunities begin to happen. And a rotating pancake would not be my choice.
I strongly suspect that this lure is destined for the dark corners of tackle boxes everywhere. Or... maybe framed on a wall? But it would be a human wall, not a bass's.
Apologies to all possibly offended. Cabin fever is setting in.
why would you apologize for offering your opinion? Isn't that what this forum is for? Tackle choices and different fishing styles is what make Bass Fishing so Interesting. I fish lures and baits other people don't like, but I like it when someone challenges what the "Magazines say" or "TV shows say about a product". I would agree that the Live Target Sunfish may look gimmicky, but then again, so did the banjo Minnow and that created an entire revolution of soft swimbaits with segments and actually changed the way I rig many soft baits. I know people laugh at the banjo Minnow and I have moved on years ago, but I still Nose rig every soft swimbait whenever I can get away with it....
I actually think the price tag for this bait at $13 is very fair considering most frogs are $10, and the Trokar Double Hooks are a few bucks alone. I don't have confidence in the hook up ratio based on my experiences with baits like the Boze ZZ Walker, and other hollow walking baits. I have found that I get the best hooksets when the hooks are in the back and have nothing to get in the way. I don't worry about softness and hook gap but I think the placement of the hooks may be an issue, but looking forward to finding out. I would say the Live Target Frog is one of the easiest to use for anyone since it is so soft, I just prefer a slightly harder from for heavy cover, but for light weeds it is a legit bait to throw regardless of skill level...
I appreciate your feedback.
The idea isn't a gimmick. It's a great idea. The execution was poor. Here's the bottom side. The side the fish will see...
the top could be white or bright yellow for all anyone cares. But if your trying to design a bait that looks like a dieing bluegill or sunfish the bottom side that the fish see better be right.
They got it wrong. And on purpose too.
im sure the bait will catch some fish. But not because it's a realistic bluegill...
I just got mine in the mail. I went with the 75 series since I don't see a lot of large bass, the smaller size should give me more hookups.
Overall the quality seems good. I don't know if the factory changed things based on customers/vendor request, but the weight on mine is painted to match it's surrounding material.
The hooks look very good, I think Trokar? Either way they look very high quality.
The finish is very nice, the glittery fleck will probably wear off quickly, but the paint seems durable. I can't see it lasting more than a couple seasons though without some decent wear coming through, depending on the number of fish caught
Overall, I'm excited to throw it. I can see that it might have an effective, albeit specific purpose.
Will be interested to hear how they pan out.
I'm a sucker for bluegill look-alikes. It goes back a long time...
I was probably 8 yrs old and I found a dead sunfish washed up on shore. I thought I'd use it as bait, thought about it, then decided "Nah!" and through it in the water. It's swim bladder must have deflated as it sunk, fluttering slowly to bottom. It rested on bottom for a moment then, suddenly, it appeared to levitate! Then a big eye and a lined side appeared. A big bass had it! I was shocked, and bummed I hadn't gone ahead and used it as bait.
Among my xmas tree ornaments is a modified Heddon Punkinseed lure, with the lip removed and a spinner blade in place of the rear treble. I bought it, and modified it, years ago and it was meant to mimic a dying falling sunfish. I'd tie it on with shaking hands. I never did catch a thing on it, which is why it's now an xmas tree ornament.
I still spend inordinate -and fun- amounts of time "bluegillizing" many of my lures. And they catch fish although I do not know whether my efforts really make much difference. Fun stuff anyway.
I don't care about the unpainted belly weight at all.
I do, however, care that the bait came in the package with a d**n rolled point after I waited months for it. That actually made me pretty mad. I waited and waited. Even weeks after "buy it now" guys got theirs, they somehow managed to make sure my preorder was dissatisfactory in every possible way. Late AND defective. Yay.
Now I'm actually ticked that I still want it. I want to throw it in the trash and say it's garbage almost as bad as I want to fish it.
Let me just preface this by saying I will own a couple of these and will fish them.
I think they are an unnecessary bait. You have hollow body frogs, Horny Toads, Spooks, rats, buzz baits, etc.
Where is this bait going to be fished primarily? In the junk. A bass isn't going to know if that's a bluegill or a frog it's tracking and sucking down once it hits that hole in the vegetation. It's just like that bass has no idea what it's eating when I send a 1oz weight with a skirt and Pitt Boss down at it at a high rate of speed when punching.
This is paying $13 for an $8 bait, but I'm absolutely going to pay it lol.
great little sunfish. Kind of like a soft plastic frog. picked one up sunday and I'm already catching some toads with it
On 2/3/2016 at 10:22 AM, Pondboss16 said:great little sunfish. Kind of like a soft plastic frog. picked one up sunday and I'm already catching some toads with it
Any pics of the bait post toads? I'm afraid of the durability of the thing after I took mine out of the package and really looked it over.
On 2/3/2016 at 3:46 PM, Bluebasser86 said:Any pics of the bait post toads? I'm afraid of the durability of the thing after I took mine out of the package and really looked it over.
i sadly lost it in some brush this morning BUT i at least caught 6 bass on it all ranging from 1 to 4.5 pounds and it still looked and worked great. Going to BP later today to pick up some more!
I have two more coming, and can't wait to use them! If u wanna learn how to skip, these things are little angels when it comes to skipping!
On 2/9/2016 at 8:43 PM, Kevin Beachy said:I have two more coming, and can't wait to use them! If u wanna learn how to skip, these things are little angels when it comes to skipping!
Since you have 2 more coming I assume that means you like what you have and have had success on it? Skipping was my first thought as I took it out of the package also.
On 2/9/2016 at 10:33 PM, gardnerjigman said:Since you have 2 more coming I assume that means you like what you have and have had success on it? Skipping was my first thought as I took it out of the package also.
No, i haven't caught fish on it, but i love it for its other qualities, the only reason i got them tho because its a early b-day gift from my friend
I work at a Gander Mountain, these things are flying off the shelves.
I have zero desire to purchase one, seems silly to me. I'll stick with my $6 pad crasher.
I got one. Painted the un bream like silver dime underneath and put it in with the pad crashers until it's time to try it. Let you know in a month or two
On 2/10/2016 at 10:23 AM, everythingthatswims said:I work at a Gander Mountain, these things are flying off the shelves.
I have zero desire to purchase one, seems silly to me. I'll stick with my $6 pad crasher.
I got one sight unseen. I can see it excelling under the right circumstances, but for the most part I really believe if they will eat this then they will eat a frog.
I own one. The larger version. I must say it's really easy to walk and has trokar hooks I believe. Just little twitches , back and forth , back and forth. Almost too easy.
The first night I got it is the only night I used it. I was seeing what it's all about, got the feel very quickly and was thinking to myself man this thing is looking good. I cast it over to an island, slowly working it back towards me .. when it was about 15 ft from me I seen a nice bass (4lbs+ plus no doubt ) take the bluegill perfectly where the hooks are. I have never seen a bass hit a bait so gentle. It's as if it stalked it and came up on it like " and I'll take that" . The bass took my lure straight down. I reeled down and threw back hard on the rod . All I heard was zzzzzzzzzzzzzttt. My drag was loosened from the other night when I was out late and I hooked a lure to the keeper and eased the drag when I put it in the shed so it wasn't flexed. Total operator error.
I fished it for another 20 minutes and got nothing. I'm sure if i would have landed that fish I would have used it again by now. I just have so many lures it's ridiculous. I'm going to try it again. It deserves another chance.
Is it worth 13 dollars... hell no.
I lost mine in a tree, i was real mad! I should of lost it in the garbage. I rather throw away 13 dollars than have that bait use up space in my tackle box
Funny this topic came up today, as it was the first day I ever used my bluegill. I've had it all season and kinda forgot about it. I was throwing my poppin pad crashers like normal today, and bass kept hitting it short. I decided to tie on the bluegill as it has no skirt. Almost immediately started hooking up! Awesome bait if you ask me. I'll be playing with it again tomorrow.
Been using this lure for a couple months now and came to the conclusion that the frog is the better lure.Have caught some decent bass on it so it definitely has its place and time that it can be used(when you forget to bring a frog,you want to try something different, etc).
After having horrible hook up ratio with this thing, I switched to throwing a Hudd gill ROF 0, with a single hook, still gets bit better than the LT.
I've used this and only this for a week straight. It's by far the best and worst lure I've ever used. I've got it down now to the point i can usually trigger a hit at least once every 5 casts. I'm using the 3" sunfish. The bad is that out of all the fish I've had hit and hold on to it I've only managed to get one fish hooked. It seems impossible to get the hooks into the fish and i think it's because it doesn't collapse quite as well as the company intended.
I take back what i said. This lure just didnt work for me
On 6/28/2017 at 11:21 AM, Dan Rdnk Bender said:I've used this and only this for a week straight. It's by far the best and worst lure I've ever used. I've got it down now to the point i can usually trigger a hit at least once every 5 casts. I'm using the 3" sunfish. The bad is that out of all the fish I've had hit and hold on to it I've only managed to get one fish hooked. It seems impossible to get the hooks into the fish and i think it's because it doesn't collapse quite as well as the company intended.
Welcome to the forums. I've been throwing one a lot this year and I've had a wonderful hook up rate with the 3". I've got the 3 1/2" but I haven't caught one on it yet. Have you tried bending the hooks out a little?