Booyah Toad Runner Frog 2024
tcbass reply :
They say that imitation is the imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. The new Booyah Toad Runner appears to be a nearly identical copy of the Teckel Sprinker Frog, the only difference being the frog has rubber skirt legs in addition to the paddle tail.
I made some Homemade Teckel Sprinker Frogs from many frogs before Teckel Sprinker frogs became available and had the best luck with a Spro Bronzeye, VMC 3 way swivel size #4, and an original Teckel Sprinker Frog Tail. We caught a lot of fish with it last year, more than I've ever caught with regular hollow body frogs. The 2nd best frog was the Booyah Homemade Teckel frog. I liked the Spro because it really caught a lot of fish, didn't fill up with water, and didn't have to be squeezed to get water out.
I finally got some Teckel Sprinker Frogs when they became available and was really disappointed in them. The fish blew up on them but I only caught 1 and it was a northern. The rest just seemed to throw it into the air. This is after I opened up the hooks quite a bit. The Teckel frog is also expensive.
Now I see that Booyah has their own version of the Teckel Sprinker Frog and it is only $9.99. Not super cheap but not too expensive for a frog. So, if this one works, rather than make my own, I'd just buy these. And Booyah is known for making a good, durable frog for a fair price.
Has anyone tried them?
https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/p/booyah-toadrunner-soft-bait-18byhutdrnnrlprdflur/18byhutdrnnrlprdflur
Smallieseeker reply :
Haven’t tried them yet but at only 10 dollars I think they would be worth trying out. I honestly think these will be better then the teckel. I saw a video where you can adjust the tail to create subtle changes in the sound and splash. I have plans to pick some up on my next order.
fishwizzard reply :
I'm a sucker for a good pun, so I'll buy one just based on the name alone.
thebillsman reply :
Didn't it come out like yesterday?
ratherbfishin1 reply :
I want one really bad now, the add keeps coming up on top of my screen making it hard to ignore the bait monkey.
MichaelJ7 reply :
I plan on giving it a try. I just received my fist teckel frog and was disappointed the moment I opened the package. I don’t know that it will ever hit the water. I’d like to see the booyah’s in person though. I would imagine they will be of better quality.
tcbass reply :
On 3/2/2018 at 12:08 PM, MichaelJ7 said:I plan on giving it a try. I just received my fist teckel frog and was disappointed the moment I opened the package. I don’t know that it will ever hit the water. I’d like to see the booyah’s in person though. I would imagine they will be of better quality.
Same to be a regular Booyah Pad Crasher with a tail coming out of the end.....if that's the case, probably pretty good.
MichaelJ7 reply :
On 3/2/2018 at 12:34 PM, tcbass said:
Same to be a regular Booyah Pad Crasher with a tail coming out of the end.....if that's the case, probably pretty good.
I’ve always been a KVD Sexy Frog guy and have no serious complaints but I think I’m getting ready to invest in some pad crashers to compare the two.
tcbass reply :
On 3/2/2018 at 12:41 PM, MichaelJ7 said:I’ve always been a KVD Sexy Frog guy and have no serious complaints but I think I’m getting ready to invest in some pad crashers to compare the two.
I still like the Spro Bronzeye Frog for Homemade Teckel Frogs....I'd have to fish the Booyah more to see if it doesn't take on water.
MichaelJ7 reply :
On 3/2/2018 at 12:44 PM, tcbass said:
I still like the Spro Bronzeye Frog for Homemade Teckel Frogs....I'd have to fish the Booyah more to see if it doesn't take on water.
Spro makes a great frog for sure. I just prefer the softer bodied frogs like the KVD’s. It may just be in my head but hookup ratios seemed to go up for me when I switched. Who knows...
tcbass reply :
On 3/2/2018 at 12:52 PM, MichaelJ7 said:Spro makes a great frog for sure. I just prefer the softer bodied frogs like the KVD’s. It may just be in my head but hookup ratios seemed to go up for me when I switched. Who knows...
Sure. I will tell you that my Homemade Teckel frogs made with the Spro had only like 1 or 2 lost fish. I was really impressed.
5by3 reply :
TC bass would you mind posting a picture of your homemade spro frogs? I’d like to try my own. The Teckel frogs aren’t awful imo, but they’re a bit pricy for modest durability and hookup rate. That being said, it’s caught some good ones for me...
tcbass reply :
On 3/2/2018 at 9:21 PM, 5by3 said:TC bass would you mind posting a picture of your homemade spro frogs? I’d like to try my own. The Teckel frogs aren’t awful imo, but they’re a bit pricy for modest durability and hookup rate. That being said, it’s caught some good ones for me...
Bluebasser86 reply :
They just came out the last week or two and with probably half the country still having hard water, I seriously doubt anyone has done more than make a cast with one.
The Booyah is supposed to have an adjustable tail to change the sound it makes. I've seen videos where you can clearly hear that it does make different sounds based on the settings of the tail. I love Booyah frogs and plan on owning some.
The Sprinker was a very successful bait for me but I held off using them a ton because they were so hard to get. Won't be an issue with these frogs I'm sure.
tcbass reply :
On 3/3/2018 at 1:01 AM, Bluebasser86 said:They just came out the last week or two and with probably half the country still having hard water, I seriously doubt anyone has done more than make a cast with one.
The Booyah is supposed to have an adjustable tail to change the sound it makes. I've seen videos where you can clearly hear that it does make different sounds based on the settings of the tail. I love Booyah frogs and plan on owning some.
The Sprinker was a very successful bait for me but I held off using them a ton because they were so hard to get. Won't be an issue with these frogs I'm sure.
Did Teckel not put a patent on their Sprinker Frog?
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 3/3/2018 at 4:17 AM, tcbass said:
Did Teckel not put a patent on their Sprinker Frog?
No idea if they did or not but I'm sure Booyah didn't release a bait that would violate their patent if they did.
snake95 reply :
@tcbass from the moment I first heard of this, I keep checking this thread daily and ask "when the heck is TCbass going to post something on this frog??" Thanks for coming through for me!
(I haven't tried it yet but as you mentioned noticed the legs are a key difference)
tcbass reply :
On 3/3/2018 at 10:33 AM, snake95 said:@tcbass from the moment I first heard of this, I keep checking this thread daily and ask "when the heck is TCbass going to post something on this frog??" Thanks for coming through for me!
(I haven't tried it yet but as you mentioned noticed the legs are a key difference)
If it actually does what the Teckel is supposed to do at nearly 1/2 the price it will be worth it.
Otherwise I’ll have to keep making my own.
Brett's_daddy reply :
Looks like a Teckel Sprinker knock off to me. Anyone have one yet? Is it better/worse than a Sprinker?
georgeyew reply :
It doesn't just look like a knock off....it is a knock off.
Junger reply :
J Francho reply :
It's supposed to be an upgrade, at a lower cost. It has a tunable boot, and short legs, and is 1.5 inches linger. If the hook up ratio is like that of the Pad Crasher, then I think they have a winner.
Do not start redundant threads. I merged them this time. Next time, I simply delete.
bobbyg reply :
I just got one in the mail! I opened it up and am very excited to see how it does on the water. A few observations though. . .
First, it comes with an extra tail. Wasn't expecting that, but thought that was awesome!
Second, The tail is very pliable, don't know how to judge if that is a good thing, or bad, as it seems very damageable.
Third, it is a little more "stout" than the Padcrasher. Hooks have a molded in little indent where they live on the body of the frog.
tcbass reply :
On 3/14/2018 at 2:41 AM, bobbyg said:I just got one in the mail! I opened it up and am very excited to see how it does on the water. A few observations though. . .
First, it comes with an extra tail. Wasn't expecting that, but thought that was awesome!
Second, The tail is very pliable, don't know how to judge if that is a good thing, or bad, as it seems very damageable.
Third, it is a little more "stout" than the Padcrasher. Hooks have a molded in little indent where they live on the body of the frog.
Sweet!
Tail definitely seems larger than the Teckel Sprinker Tail compared to the size of the frog.
These are cheaper than Spro’s, so if these work I’ll save a lot of money on using this instead of buying a Spro Bronzeye and Teckel Sprinker Tails.
MichaelJ7 reply :
I ordered one last night. Just waiting on it to come in the mail now.
Brett's_daddy reply :
Okay, for those of you who have these already and are lucky enough to live in the south where you don't have to worry about iced over ponds/lakes this time of year and have had some time to fish it what do you think? Is it better/worse/same as the Teckel Sprinker frog? Does the adjustable tail actually work or is it just a gimmick?
J Francho reply :
We're not starting multiple threads with the same question over and over like the last frog bait. New threads will be merged here.
Bobby Uhrig reply :
Some people just have no innovation of their own
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 4/4/2018 at 9:23 PM, Brett's_daddy said:Okay, for those of you who have these already and are lucky enough to live in the south where you don't have to worry about iced over ponds/lakes this time of year and have had some time to fish it what do you think? Is it better/worse/same as the Teckel Sprinker frog? Does the adjustable tail actually work or is it just a gimmick?
I like the action better. It makes a difference if you adjust the tail, but I like the action right out of the box best. It starts up and stays working better than the Teckel. Water is still too cold to catch anything with it, so haven't tested how the hooks work on a fish, but not a big fan of the Trokar style cutting points. Hopefully they work better for me than the other Trokar hooks I've tried.
tcbass reply :
On 4/5/2018 at 2:42 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I like the action better. It makes a difference if you adjust the tail, but I like the action right out of the box best. It starts up and stays working better than the Teckel. Water is still too cold to catch anything with it, so haven't tested how the hooks work on a fish, but not a big fan of the Trokar style cutting points. Hopefully they work better for me than the other Trokar hooks I've tried.
Was watching a video on it and everytime the guy caught a fish the whole body was bent up on the hook, wondering if this will cause the fish to frog to be unusable sooner. Also, one guy commented that the tail flew straight off of the bait on a cast and the metal that holds the tail already looks straight, wonder if you could just use a Teckel replacement tail for it since they are basically the same thing but the Teckel uses a CPS Spring lock which will hold it on well.
Brett's_daddy reply :
On 4/6/2018 at 12:50 AM, tcbass said:
Was watching a video on it and everytime the guy caught a fish the whole body was bent up on the hook, wondering if this will cause the fish to frog to be unusable sooner. Also, one guy commented that the tail flew straight off of the bait on a cast and the metal that holds the tail already looks straight, wonder if you could just use a Teckel replacement tail for it since they are basically the same thing but the Teckel uses a CPS Spring lock which will hold it on well.
Replacing it with a Teckel tail would render one of it's main differences useless as Booyah is very proud of their adjustable tail.
J Francho reply :
On 4/6/2018 at 12:50 AM, tcbass said:Was watching a video on it and everytime the guy caught a fish the whole body was bent up on the hook
This is EXACTLY how a well designed hollow frog should end up after a hookset.
Here is a Spro Bronzeye doing what it's supposed to do after a hookset:
tcbass reply :
On 4/13/2018 at 12:22 AM, Brett's_daddy said:Replacing it with a Teckel tail would render one of it's main differences useless as Booyah is very proud of their adjustable tail.
But if that tail is poorly designed and just flies off on a simple cast, they won't be selling them for too long.
J Francho reply :
On 4/13/2018 at 5:42 AM, tcbass said:But if that tail is poorly designed and just flies off on a simple cast, they won't be selling them for too long.
No one's complained of this yet. Have you experienced it? Or are you making up an issue that isn't there? Have you bought one?
Glenn reply :
On 4/5/2018 at 8:05 AM, Bobby Uhrig said:Some people just have no innovation of their own
Said the pot to the kettle! LOL!
tcbass reply :
On 4/13/2018 at 8:41 PM, J Francho said:No one's complained of this yet. Have you experienced it? Or are you making up an issue that isn't there? Have you bought one?
Why would I make up an issue that isn’t there?
What kind of question is this?
Why would you accuse someone of something like that?
No, it’s because of this guy’s Tackle Warehouse review where he was disappointed in the new Booyah Frog because he lost his tail on a cast.
J Francho reply :
TW reviews. I can't. 
cgolf reply :
On 4/16/2018 at 8:27 PM, J Francho said:TW reviews. I can't.
So reviews like that are a joke? Really? My wife and I use reviews all the time for all sorts of products, because short of buying everything it is the only way you learn anything about the quality of a product. I also don't ask people that are sponsored by the product I am asking about or salespeople for their opinions because they are biased.
That said not all reviews are on the up and up, but you average them out, but I certainly don't dismiss them. Now if that review was a bad review about a Rapala you might believe it;)
J Francho reply :
I read reviews here, from real anglers like you. People that leave reviews on shopping sites are generally kooks. I read those reviews for entertainment purposes only. I'm gonna call total bologna on that review above. No one is straightening a wire on a backlash. Besides, you get a free extra plopper tail.
tcbass reply :
On 4/16/2018 at 9:40 PM, J Francho said:I read reviews here, from real anglers like you. People that leave reviews on shopping sites are generally kooks. I read those reviews for entertainment purposes only. I'm gonna call total bologna on that review above. No one is straightening a wire on a backlash. Besides, you get a free extra plopper tail.
I read and go by reviews. I've posted reviews on places like Amazon and Cabelas and I'm no kook (that I know of!).
What benefit or advantage is there for someone to post a bad review on a $10 lure? Why take the time if it's not true?
Sure there are some biased reviews but you just attempt to parse through them.
Glenn reply :
I have a Toadrunner, and tried pulling on the tail to straighten out the split-ring (yes, it's a split-ring). Couldn't do it.
Now if split-rings could be straightened out, then we'd be losing all kinds of fish on crankbaits, now wouldn't we?
Junger reply :
On 4/17/2018 at 12:41 AM, tcbass said:
I read and go by reviews. I've posted reviews on places like Amazon and Cabelas and I'm no kook (that I know of!).
What benefit or advantage is there for someone to post a bad review on a $10 lure? Why take the time if it's not true?
Sure there are some biased reviews but you just attempt to parse through them.
The problem with TW reviews is that, anyone can comment on an item, even if they have not purchased it. A competitor can hire troll farms to post negative reviews on products, or even direct their own marketing team to do so. Amazon at least adds a purchase verification to differentiate reviews, although there are still ways to circumvent that.
Sometimes you can weed out fake reviews, such as how most fishermen know they'll never straighten out a split ring just from the momentum of a backlash. And the more detail in a review, obviously the better and more reliable.
I bought 2 of these Booyahs, and I have 2 Teckels...can't wait for the pads to come up in my area to use them both, and hopefully as the weather warms we'll get more reliable feedback on this forum.
tcbass reply :
On 4/17/2018 at 1:42 AM, Glenn said:I have a Toadrunner, and tried pulling on the tail to straighten out the split-ring (yes, it's a split-ring). Couldn't do it.
Now if split-rings could be straightened out, then we'd be losing all kinds of fish on crankbaits, now wouldn't we?
I think he meant the rubber tail slid off of the metal shaft, not the entire tail breaking off at the split ring, but I could be wrong.
cgolf reply :
On 4/17/2018 at 2:09 AM, Junger said:
The problem with TW reviews is that, anyone can comment on an item, even if they have not purchased it. A competitor can hire troll farms to post negative reviews on products, or even direct their own marketing team to do so. Amazon at least adds a purchase verification to differentiate reviews, although there are still ways to circumvent that.
Sometimes you can weed out fake reviews, such as how most fishermen know they'll never straighten out a split ring just from the momentum of a backlash. And the more detail in a review, obviously the better and more reliable.
I bought 2 of these Booyahs, and I have 2 Teckels...can't wait for the pads to come up in my area to use them both, and hopefully as the weather warms we'll get more reliable feedback on this forum.
It isn't like amazon or Target... either when we are buying non tackle items where there are 100s if not 1000s of reviews and you can dismiss a certain percentage of them, large numbers of reviews works in the consumers favor. Then you have reviews like I found on a bluetooth speaker this weekend, where the person said the speaker in question didn't fit their needs and they would be purchasing one that was bluetooth compatible lol.
J Francho reply :
It does happen quite a bit in the fishing world. In fact, we remove a couple posts a week started by people with, how should I say, interesting motivations. Luckily they're easy to spot. They "pro staff" for one company, talk bad about another...
Glenn reply :
On 4/17/2018 at 2:13 AM, tcbass said:I think he meant the rubber tail slid off of the metal shaft
Nope. Pulled and tugged on that too. Can't do it.
tcbass reply :
On 4/17/2018 at 3:25 AM, Glenn said:Nope. Pulled and tugged on that too. Can't do it.
Good to know.
Perhaps his had a manufacturing defect.
I bet if you pulled and rugged on most spinnerbait skirts they’d stay in place. I purchased a new Terminator from Gander Mountain, got home and opened it up. The skirt immediately fell off. I waited until my next trip to Gander and asked for a replacement of the exact same thing with my receipt from a week earlier. The manager argued that it just doesn’t happen. I was like, “You can tell it’s brand new and never been used. I’m returning it for an exchange of the exact same thing. Do you think I’m here wasting my time to scam Gander out of $5?”
So, things do happen.
J Francho reply :
Or he lied, because he works for a competitor.
Your spinnerbait issue was from sitting on the shelf too long. The bands that hold the skirts fatigue from UV exposure, and the skirts fall off.
fissure_man reply :
Even more common than fake negative comments from competitors are unrealistically positive ones from folks on the payroll 
It could be a (very small) conspiracy, but is it really that hard to believe that Dustin from SC might have received a defective lure? lol The fact that Booyah includes a spare tail suggests that the tails aren’t indestructible… In this very thread there is a comment “The tail is very pliable, don't know how to judge if that is a good thing, or bad, as it seems very damageable.”
True or not, one bad review wouldn’t be cause to write off the lures anyway – the thing's brand new and there are two other positive reviews and some first-hand comments here indicating this may be a one-off. Worth noting that there are a few reviews saying the Teckel tails fly off too – should we assume undercover Booyah staffers are responsible for those?
IMO “Dustin’s” comment seems unusually specific, isolated, and restrained to be the work of a “troll farm” – not only stating that the tail flew off, but also the mechanism with which it failed (molded-in wire pulled out during a backlash). If this is a sabotage attempt they’re going to have try a bit harder than one “slightly disappointed” comment on one website.
In any case, Dustin should have shot an email with pics to Booyah and they’d probably send him two free ones and a baseball hat.
tcbass reply :
On 4/17/2018 at 6:27 AM, fissure_man said:Even more common than fake negative comments from competitors are unrealistically positive ones from folks on the payroll
It could be a (very small) conspiracy, but is it really that hard to believe that Dustin from SC might have received a defective lure? lol The fact that Booyah includes a spare tail suggests that the tails aren’t indestructible… In this very thread there is a comment “The tail is very pliable, don't know how to judge if that is a good thing, or bad, as it seems very damageable.”
True or not, one bad review wouldn’t be cause to write off the lures anyway – the thing's brand new and there are two other positive reviews and some first-hand comments here indicating this may be a one-off. Worth noting that there are a few reviews saying the Teckel tails fly off too – should we assume undercover Booyah staffers are responsible for those?
IMO “Dustin’s” comment seems unusually specific, isolated, and restrained to be the work of a “troll farm” – not only stating that the tail flew off, but also the mechanism with which it failed (molded-in wire pulled out during a backlash). If this is a sabotage attempt they’re going to have try a bit harder than one “slightly disappointed” comment on one website.
In any case, Dustin should have shot an email with pics to Booyah and they’d probably send him two free ones and a baseball hat.
Good point.
Not like like most people say, “I saw a majority of positive reviews, but that one bad one influenced me enough not to buy it!”
So yes, they’d probably have to pepper Tackle Warehouse with multiple bad reviews to make an impact.
Bobby Uhrig reply :
On 4/15/2018 at 6:05 AM, Glenn said:Said the pot to the kettle! LOL!
tcbass reply :
On 4/5/2018 at 2:42 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I like the action better. It makes a difference if you adjust the tail, but I like the action right out of the box best. It starts up and stays working better than the Teckel. Water is still too cold to catch anything with it, so haven't tested how the hooks work on a fish, but not a big fan of the Trokar style cutting points. Hopefully they work better for me than the other Trokar hooks I've tried.
Water is cold for you.....really cold for us!!!!
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