Custom Painted Lures, Will Is Really Make A Big Difference? 2024
Brayberry reply :
I'm curious on everyone thoughts. Many fisherman, including myself, use custom painted crankbaits, but do the fish really bite them better or is it more of a confidence thing? I mean, would a KVD Square Bill in Bluegill get a few less bites then a KVD Square Bill with a custom Bluegill paintjob? I admit, I use custom painted lures, but to me it's a confidence thing, maybe to the fish it's less important, but to me it's a huge boast of confidence. What do you think?
rangerjockey reply :
I like custom painted because I can get the bait exactly like I want it . With that said, I think a good running bait is the most important regardless of color. I have a old wart that started out as purple fire tiger . That thing caught a load of fish. The fish and the rocks finally wore the paint off.
so, I had Rob McGilvery paint it one of his craw's. It still catches fish just like it did before. I think that bait just runs right.
A-Jay reply :
I fish both stock and some custom painted baits and for me they all produce equally.
I think that it makes a difference if you think it makes a difference.
A-Jay
Jigfishn10 reply :
On 12/21/2013 at 6:15 PM, Brayberry said:I'm curious on everyone thoughts. Many fisherman, including myself, use custom painted crankbaits, but do the fish really bite them better or is it more of a confidence thing? I mean, would a KVD Square Bill in Bluegill get a few less bites then a KVD Square Bill with a custom Bluegill paintjob? I admit, I use custom painted lures, but to me it's a confidence thing, maybe to the fish it's less important, but to me it's a huge boast of confidence. What do you think?
I think you answered your own question. 
Sam reply :
Confidence. It depends on our confidence level.
Some guys and gals have to have their own patterns.
Others, like me, add a touch of orange to the baits.
There are no hard rules in bass fishing. You do what you want to do and have fun doing it.
WRB reply :
Some lakes the bass have a preference for specific colors. Example the original ghost minnow Pointer put Lucky Craft in the US market. At the time Lucky Craft didn't offer deep divers, so ghost minnow custom painted deep divers like Norman DD 14 and 22's became hot items because they worked in ghost minnow color.
Custom painted lures today run about $5 per inch.
Tom
PS, Tackle Warehouse at one time was a big brick and motor retailer called Delta Bait and Tackle and they' specialized in custom lures.
Crestliner2008 reply :
All about what gives you the best confidence in your presentation. Myself, I do not hold that much stock in color as a major factor in success. I believe that depth and speed control is much more important. But it's strictly up to you. I've never invested in custom colors myself and I do O.K..
ww2farmer reply :
On 12/21/2013 at 9:21 PM, A-Jay said:I fish both stock and some custom painted baits and for me they all produce equally.
I think that it makes a difference if you think it makes a difference.
A-Jay
What he said..................I'll just fish stock colors, I am too cheap and lazy to send a bunch of stuff off to get painted anyways.
wnybassman reply :
I can catch ten bluegills and they will be in ten different colors/shades/patterns. I am not sure what a custom painted bait would get me. With my luck, the one bluegill that was colored like my custom bait would have died last week and I will be SOL. lol
RoLo reply :
On 12/22/2013 at 8:54 PM, Crestliner2008 said:All about what gives you the best confidence in your presentation. Myself, I do not hold that much stock in color as a major factor in success. I believe that depth and speed control is much more important. But it's strictly up to you. I've never invested in custom colors myself and I do O.K..
I have a BIG problem believing that any color will give a non-feeding fish an appetite,
or that any color will take away the appetite of an aggressive predator
1) Color rendition underwater is both illusive and highly changeable according to ambient lighting
2) Time spent worrying about color should be devoted to lure depth, lure choice, retrieve speed, boat position,
cast placement, ad infinitum.
Roger
A-Jay reply :
On 12/22/2013 at 10:59 PM, RoLo said:I have a BIG problem believing that any color will give a non-feeding fish an appetite,
or that any color will take away the appetite of an aggressive predator
1) Color rendition underwater is both illusive and highly changeable according to ambient lighting
2) Time spent worrying about color should be devoted to lure depth, lure choice, retrieve speed, boat position, cast placement, ad infinitum.
Roger
X2 ~ Agreed.
But after lure depth, lure choice, retrieve speed, boat position, and cast placement have been considered and met to the best of one's ability; if and when there are bluegills around I have a fair level of confidence in this one.
A-Jay
ww2farmer reply :
On 12/22/2013 at 10:59 PM, RoLo said:I have a BIG problem believing that any color will give a non-feeding fish an appetite,
or that any color will take away the appetite of an aggressive predator
1) Color rendition underwater is both illusive and highly changeable according to ambient lighting
2) Time spent worrying about color should be devoted to lure depth, lure choice, retrieve speed, boat position, cast placement, ad infinitum.
Roger
Couldn't have said it better myself....................infact I know I couldn't, because I would have probably said.............." LOL at you fools who think a custom and or pretty paint job matter"....but thats just me. 
smalljaw67 reply :
Color only matters when it matters. I never really thought about colors and custom paint and figured it to be a waste of money, just get a color to match the forage and you are good to go. Well, I believed that until I was fishing with a good friend, we were on a body of water that was known to produce when using white lures, I was using a Manns baby one minus in grey ghost and bone with orange belly and were fishing over shallow weed flats. My friend was using a custom painted Manns baby one minus, I knew he had these as this particular bait is killer over these weed flats in early summer here and he had paid a good bit to get these painted and I thought he was nuts. This lake we fish gets moderate pressure, the shallow flats get bombed with baby one minus baits all the time as everyone now knows about this pattern, well within an hour I had 1 fish, he had 9 on his custom painted bait. I was changing baits after he would catch 3 to my zero, and at the end of the day I had 3 fish, all caught on grey ghost, he caught 21 on his custom painted bait, why? I believe that on pressured waters a bait or color that hasn't been seen by the fish will make a difference, the fish get conditioned and a custom paint job just might be the trigger.
ww2farmer reply :
On 12/22/2013 at 11:28 PM, smalljaw67 said:Color only matters when it matters. I never really thought about colors and custom paint and figured it to be a waste of money, just get a color to match the forage and you are good to go. Well, I believed that until I was fishing with a good friend, we were on a body of water that was known to produce when using white lures, I was using a Manns baby one minus in grey ghost and bone with orange belly and were fishing over shallow weed flats. My friend was using a custom painted Manns baby one minus, I knew he had these as this particular bait is killer over these weed flats in early summer here and he had paid a good bit to get these painted and I thought he was nuts. This lake we fish gets moderate pressure, the shallow flats get bombed with baby one minus baits all the time as everyone now knows about this pattern, well within an hour I had 1 fish, he had 9 on his custom painted bait. I was changing baits after he would catch 3 to my zero, and at the end of the day I had 3 fish, all caught on grey ghost, he caught 21 on his custom painted bait, why? I believe that on pressured waters a bait or color that hasn't been seen by the fish will make a difference, the fish get conditioned and a custom paint job just might be the trigger.
That's funny right there................and you think it was because of his color choice....ROTFLMAO
Topwaterspook reply :
That one sure looks like one of Casey's, Andy.
wnybassman reply :
On 12/22/2013 at 11:42 PM, ww2farmer said:That's funny right there................and you think it was because of his color choice....ROTFLMAO
I was gonna post, but knew you would, so I refrained from it. lol
A-Jay reply :
On 12/22/2013 at 11:43 PM, Topwaterspook said:That one sure looks like one of Casey's, Andy.
Good Eye Stitch ~
It sure is.
A-Jay
ww2farmer reply :
On 12/22/2013 at 11:45 PM, wnybassman said:I was gonna post, but knew you would, so I refrained from it. lol
Have we spent that much time in a boat together??? HAHAHA
RoLo reply :
On 12/22/2013 at 11:09 PM, A-Jay said:X2 ~ Agreed.
But after lure depth, lure choice, retrieve speed, boat position, and cast placement have been considered and met to the best of one's ability; if and when there are bluegills around I have a fair level of confidence in this one.
A-Jay
Point well taken, which leads us to Color 202.
When a fishermen catches 3 bass in a row, he's apt to stick to that presentation.
But unless he's fishing in a tournament, by sticking to the same presentation
he's depriving himself of a golden opportunity to learn.
For example, you're banging bass on a 'black' fluke, so now is the PERFECT time to switch to a 'white' fluke.
Switching to a 'white' fluke should slow or stop the action, but that will rarely be the case.
The action might slow simply because your color change coincided with a fading bite, but that's easy to confirm.
Simply tie the 'black' fluke back on and the action should resume, but that will rarely be the case.
I've been experimenting like this for several years, it makes the game more interesting (my wife thinks I'm nuts).
Anyway, I've found color to be the least influential lure attribute, but color often gets the credit for other variables
that the angler is not even monitoring. As a result, color has very little influence on my level of confidence.
Roger
A-Jay reply :
On 12/23/2013 at 12:24 AM, RoLo said:Point well taken, which leads us to Color 202.
When a fishermen catches 3 bass in a row, he's apt to stick to that presentation.
But unless he's fishing in a tournament, by sticking to the same presentation
he's depriving himself of a golden opportunity to learn.
For instance, you're banging bass on a Black fluke, so now is the perfect time to switch to a White fluke.
The action should slow or stop, but that will rarely be the case. The action might slow simply because
your color change coincided with a fading bite, but that's easy to confirm.
Put the Black fluke back ou there and the action should resume, but that will rarely be the case.
I've been experimenting like this for several years, I find it keeps the game more interesting (my wife thinks I'm nuts).
Anyway, I've found color to be the least influential lure attribute, but color often gets the credit for another variable
that's not even on the angler's radar screen.
Roger
I hear that -
Done this one - My wife & I are both fishing 5 inch stick baits, The bite is pretty steady. Every time one of us catches a bass, we change colors until there is a fish caught on that color. Often times you get bite right away, sometimes it takes a while. We've not found a color that wouldn't get bit.
Here's another one - Jerk bait fishing with Dwight H, (you may have heard of him :c). I can't tell you how many times this happens. He catches a smb. I change to the color he's throwing. He unhooks & releases the fish. He takes off the color that just caught and puts on a different color, same bait though. He catches right away. I'm bumming. Sometimes he'll take off the one he just caught on and give it to me, I put it on. He changes colors. He catches. I'm scrambling now . . . . .
Maybe it's the motion of the ocean.
A-Jay
wnybassman reply :
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but color often gets the credit for another variable that's not even monitored by the angler.
Quote of the year right there.
wnybassman reply :
On 12/23/2013 at 12:33 AM, A-Jay said:I hear that -
Done this one - My wife & I are both fishing 5 inch stick baits, The bite is pretty steady. Every time one of us catches a bass, we change colors until there is a fish caught on that color. Often times you get bite right away, sometimes it takes a while. We've not found a color that wouldn't get bit.
Here's another one - Jerk bait fishing with Dwight H, (you may have heard of him :c). I can't tell you how many times this happens. He catches a smb. I change to the color he's throwing. He unhooks & releases the fish. He takes off the color that just caught and puts on a different color, same bait though. He catches right away. I'm bumming. Sometimes he'll take off the one he just caught on and give it to me, I put it on. He changes colors. He catches. I'm scrambling now . . . . .
Maybe it's the motion of the ocean.
A-Jay
How about this one. My buddy and I are dragging tubes. I am catching fairly consistently, he is struggling. He says it is my bait/line/rod/weight/etc I am using. I suggest we switch rods. I catch one within 50 feet on his rig and hand the rod back to him. 
bigbill reply :
I purchased many lures at discounted prices that are awesome designs but there colors were blah looking. Plus I added some pike sized lures and sent them all to Terry Clark custom lures and had him work his magic. My only problem is they look so awesome I'm not sure wether to frame them or fish with them. There sitting here in a box till I deceide what to do with them. His work, talent looks great. I turned the dull pike sized lures into big bass lures.
Maxximus Redneckus reply :
Nope the more beat and banged up mine are the more they catch...painting customs is just a hobby nothing to do with fishing.IMO
Raul reply :
On 12/21/2013 at 6:15 PM, Brayberry said:I'm curious on everyone thoughts. Many fisherman, including myself, use custom painted crankbaits, but do the fish really bite them better or is it more of a confidence thing? I mean, would a KVD Square Bill in Bluegill get a few less bites then a KVD Square Bill with a custom Bluegill paintjob? I admit, I use custom painted lures, but to me it's a confidence thing, maybe to the fish it's less important, but to me it's a huge boast of confidence. What do you think?
How about this ? I have a Lucky Craft Moonassault crank that was originally Aurora Craw, now it´s practically stripped of any finish. Do you think it makes a difference, reason why it has no paint is cuz it´s a killa bait, that crank in particular is a killa, I have others and they catch nowhere near that particular crank, it continues to catch fish as well as it did when out of the box. I have many cranks in the same position.
I really don´t think it makes much difference, in cranks it has more to do with the little imperfections that alter the action of the bait what makes the difference between one bait and another "identical" one rather than if it´s stock or custom painted.
Bassguytom reply :
I usually do better than my buddy when I use the front of the boat color. It always out fishes any color he uses.
Primus reply :
On 12/22/2013 at 11:18 PM, ww2farmer said:Couldn't have said it better myself....................infact I know I couldn't, because I would have probably said.............." LOL at you fools who think a custom and or pretty paint job matter"....but thats just me.
Some touring pro's apparently are fools as well as I know that many of them use custom painted baits. It's not the most important factor in getting bit but I have seen it a make a big difference on many occasions. It can also be a factor in the size of the fish as well. That said I hope most think the way you do on the lakes that I fish, gives me an advantage.
RoLo reply :
On 12/25/2013 at 4:13 AM, Primus said:It's not the most important factor in getting bit but I have seen it a make a big difference on many occasions. It can also be a factor in the size of the fish as well. That said I hope most think the way you do on the lakes that I fish, gives me an advantage.
The list of variables that influence an angler's success rate would go twice around the block.
Among the litany of variables, how did you determine that 'color' was the responsible variable?
'Color' may be blatantly obvious to humans, but that's not a measure of its importance to fish.
The next time you find a color that's hammering bass, immediately switch to another color...any color.
If color is indeed responsible, then the action will quit. Now switch back to the winning pattern again,
and the action should pick-up. Run this color-swap experiment every time you're convinced that color
is the key. I have a hunch that next year at this time, you & I will have similar opinions on lure color 
Roger
ww2farmer reply :
On 12/25/2013 at 4:13 AM, Primus said:Some touring pro's apparently are fools as well as I know that many of them use custom painted baits. It's not the most important factor in getting bit but I have seen it a make a big difference on many occasions. It can also be a factor in the size of the fish as well. That said I hope most think the way you do on the lakes that I fish, gives me an advantage.
I'm not going to argue with you, if you think it matters, than you think it matters. I just don't. Merry Christmas.
basscatcher8 reply :
painted baits are just fun to make. i dont see a whole lot of advantage. unless there is a forage in your area that nobody makes and you really wanna match the hatch. but most of the baits i see painted are 90% to get the fisherman to drool over and 10% to catch fish.
rippin-lips reply :
I like the look of them and own a few but I think more times then not that color isn't the reason for getting bit. Lure placement,cadence, and depth play a bigger role in my opinion.
Last year I was wading a shallow flat with two friends. The left side was a rock bank and the water had carved out a little channel over the years making it just a bit deeper. All three of us were throwing a wacky rigged yum dinger in the same exact color. 2 of us were catching 3/4 fish to the others 1. Me being closest to the rip rap bank and Colten in the middle had more bites then his brother having to throw into open water.
Primus reply :
On 12/25/2013 at 6:17 AM, RoLo said:The list of variables that influence an angler's success rate would go twice around the block.
Among the litany of variables, how did you determine that 'color' was the responsible variable?
'Color' may be blatantly obvious to humans, but that's not a measure of its importance to fish.
The next time you find a color that's hammering bass, immediately switch to another color...any color.
If color is indeed responsible, then the action will quit. Now switch back to the winning pattern again,
and the action should pick-up. Run this color-swap experiment every time you're convinced that color
is the key. I have a hunch that next year at this time, you & I will have similar opinions on lure color
Roger
I have done that and have proven to myself that color matters at times especially when fishing clear water. There are times when the fish are very aggressive and will bite just about any color you have in your tacklebox especially juvenile fish that tend not to be as selective. I am not saying that someone has to have custom painted lures to catch fish and I have found that stock colors will do well under most conditions. That said I have done much better fishing a Bullshad swimbait that was painted in a Golden Shiner pattern to match local forage than I have with the standard Shad pattern as one example. I have talked to a few touring pro's who have had baits custom painted so apparently I am not the only one who thinks that way. We can agree to disagree, happy holidays 
craww reply :
Most times the big manufacturers offer a color "close enough" to match the forage or water clarity I need. I have run into a few situations where I'd like a certain color that isn't available. For example I think there aren't enough straight up white baitfish looking patterns. Something like rapalas glass ghost in the x-rap series is such a great versatile color for multiple species and enviroments.
Catt reply :
This all started in the late 70's & has had a cult following ever since!
Anyone remember Bagley's Small Fry Series? The most meticulously painted/patterned lures available.
Or how about Crankbair Corp's Bullcat? Exact reproduction of a small catfish.
The there was the scientific break through of Keeper Bait Co's Dance's Craw & Dance's Eel made from "Space Age Hydrofoam".
Do they work? Caught a lot of anglers 
RoLo reply :
On 12/25/2013 at 9:18 PM, Primus said:I have done that and have proven to myself that color matters at times especially when fishing clear water. There are times when the fish are very aggressive and will bite just about any color you have in your tacklebox especially juvenile fish that tend not to be as selective. I am not saying that someone has to have custom painted lures to catch fish and I have found that stock colors will do well under most conditions. That said I have done much better fishing a Bullshad swimbait that was painted in a Golden Shiner pattern to match local forage than I have with the standard Shad pattern as one example. I have talked to a few touring pro's who have had baits custom painted so apparently I am not the only one who thinks that way. We can agree to disagree, happy holidays
Like you Primus, I too believe that color can definitely make a difference.
However the role of color and the reason it might make a difference is where I part company with the herd.
It's my opinion that color makes a difference only inasmuch as it affects 'lure visibility', but has no affect on 'fish appetite'.
Color can be used to make the lure 'more' visible or 'less' visible, as dictated by current light levels (sky clarity, water clarity, etc).
=> The lower the light level, the darker the lure color, which enhances 'contrast'
For example: Black at night (where there is No light, there is No color)
=> The higher the light level the lighter the lure color, which makes it harder for fish to detect flaws in delivery
For example: Clear ghost in gin-clear water
Merry Christmas 
Roger
WRB reply :
Take a look at the high end swimbaits, look real, swim like a live fish and they catch a lot of big bass.
Merry Chrismas.
Tom
gobig reply :
IMO color generally plays a minimal roll. But when it does it can be huge.
bass1980 reply :
This debate is getting "color" and "details" mixed up. I can take a KVD 1.5 sexy shad and paint that sucker up bright chartreuse and in the right condition it'll catch fish. Now if I add all these little details like scales, bleeding gills, orange belly, ect ect will it catch more fish than my custom chartreuse???....???
IMO a reaction bait is just that, getting a fish to react to the motion of a lure. I highly doubt the fish will pick up on the small details otherwise you all would be fighting the lines for those gimmick Koppers bait ball. A crank wobbles so much that how could a bass possible see that it has a bleeding gill? Color on the other hand I believe will play a role in some certain condition. Most stock colors of from manufacturers should fill the list.
I believe fishing is a hobby just like any other. If you enjoy custom lures, gives you more confidence, and makes the hobby more enjoyable, then it is not a waste of money. My sisters think a $1000 setup is a waste of money but thinks a Louie Baton purse for $1000 is a bargain. Enjoy the fishing hobby my friends and hope your wife doesn't get into purses 
.
WRB reply :
One of the interesting characteristics of fresh water black bass is the ability to change the flicker rate they see things moving when they are close to te prey. Increasing flicker rate is like watching a movie in slow motion real time. This allows the bass to see fast moving objects clearly. We see fast moving objects like a spinner bait blade blurred, the bass sees it clearly moving in slow motion.
The question about custom painted colors is best answered when comparing the importance of detail getting wary big bass, that have experienced seeing a lot of lures, to strike your lure. Life like swimbaits answer this question, the more the swimmer looks like the real baitfish, the effective it is for catching big bass.
Butch brown for example is a master at customizing swimbait colors and camouflaging hooks to blend into the lure.
Tom
Maxximus Redneckus reply :
I think people are overthinking this .and reading too much about customizing..just cause someone in cali or japan makes a custom bait for 100$ and tells you it catches 10lb bass ...u been had
Catt reply :
Really Tom, seriously!
For that to take place a bass would have to be capable of deductive reasoning!
They are not!
Secondly man is not capable of knowing what a bass is thinking if a bass could in fact think!
SirSnookalot reply :
On 12/27/2013 at 12:34 PM, Catt said:Really Tom, seriously!
For that to take place a bass would have to be capable of deductive reasoning!
They are not!
Secondly man is not capable of knowing what a bass is thinking if a bass could in fact think!
I'm in this camp for sure.
My lures are so banged up, scratched, rear hooks bent down from broken plastic, and they still catch fish everyday. Common belief peacocks like brightly colored lures, I catch many on duller colors.
RoLo reply :
On 12/27/2013 at 8:32 AM, WRB said:One of the interesting characteristics of fresh water black bass is the ability to change thecflickercratecthey see things moving when they are close to te prey. Increasing flicker rate is like watching a movie in slow motion real time. This allows the bass to see fast moving objects clearly. We see fast moving objects like a spinner bait blade blurred, the bass sees it clearly moving in slow motion.
The question about custom painted colors is best answered when comparing the importance of detail getting wary big bass, that have experienced seeing a lot of lures, to strike your lure. Life like swimbaits answer this question, the more the swimmer looks like the real baitfish, the effective it is for catching big bass.
Butch brown for example is a master at customizing swimbait colors and camouflaging hooks to blend into the lure.
Tom
We don't know what bass see and probably never will. In spite of having rod & cone vision,
wouldn't it be funny if biologists ultimately learned that bass are colorblind? 
An old, worn-out fishing adage is: "Let the fish tell you what they want".
Far from brilliant, that statement assumes that you're catching bass or at least getting strikes.
Okay, let's assume an angler lands two bass. How foolish he would be if he allowed 'lure color"
or 'lure pattern' to dominate his thought process and override all the important elements of angling.
Catch patterns deal with micro-environment and lure properties, meaningful criteria such as
bottom contour, resident cover, water depth, weed species, weed density, cover mergers,
water current, lure style, lure size, retrieve cadence, cast placement ~ ~
'Color' is a girly thing…Oh wait a minute, maybe that's why my wife outfishes me. 
Roger
whitwolf reply :
On 12/27/2013 at 7:28 AM, bass1980 said:
I believe fishing is a hobby just like any other. If you enjoy custom lures, gives you more confidence, and makes the hobby more enjoyable, then it is not a waste of money.
I'm in this camp. I have several custom made crankbaits and have a high degree of confidence in each one. I catch more fish on them than anyother crankbaits I own. I could go on and on about the details of the bait and about the differences in a hand made bait vs. a mass produced bait not being equal, but I simply have more confidence in the handmade baits which means I fish them more, therefore I catch more fish on the handmade baits.
I haven't done any field work with regards to throwing a different (mass produced) bait in the same places on the same day, under the same conditions because It's not that Important to me. I do know there are days when a bait with rattles will work better then a silent bait and will always throw a trusty Norman bait when needed. In the end though my confidence level is much higher when using the custom made baits.
Dwight Hottle reply :
I'm in the camp that color only matters when it increases or decreases visibility. Rolo's comment about fish being color blind is closer to reality than not. Studies I have seen in the infisherman suggest fish do not see color like we do. And their range of color is greatly inferior to the human eye. Maybe they are color blind & only react to shades of certain colors. Fun topic.
WRB reply :
Knowing Bass: The scientific Approach To Catching More Bass by Kieth Jones.
The bass vision information was printed in Bassmaster magazine quoted by Kieth Jones, referencing the above book. Don't believe me then read the Jones book!
Tom
Catt reply :
On 12/29/2013 at 2:03 AM, WRB said:Knowing Bass: The scientific Approach To Catching More Bass by Kieth Jones.
The bass vision information was printed in Bassmaster magazine quoted by Kieth Jones, referencing the above book. Don't believe me then read the Jones book!
Tom
Read his book! Don't believe him either!
Cerebral Cortex, bass aint got one!
To say we know what a bass sees is a stretch of the imagination!
WRB reply :
What is scientific fact verses opinion has been discussed at ad nuseam.
What we know today often changes tomorrow as facts are proven or disproven. Today I will go along with Dr Jones until someone comes up with a better study.
Agree we know little about how bass actually see their underwater world where they have evolved to servive, not by intellect but by instinct and physical attributes like good underwater vision.
Tom
Catt reply :
Dr. Jones book & study are not fact but his opinion!
He is the same person who says his studies have proven a bass will ignore lures with anise in them dispite 50-60 years of bass being caught on them.
Marine Biologist & Microbiologist who peer reviewed his work call it junk science.
I will give him Gulp & Power baits cause they do work & quite well.
WRB reply :
Catt, there is a lot support for both Kieth Jones and Gene Gilliland by Bassmaster/ B.A.S.S. I feel the same about Gilliland as you do Jones, so will just say the information is published and accepted by the majority of bass anglers.
Tom
Catt reply :
So Tom you agree Mr. Jones some how knows what a bass sees & thinks?
The majority of anglers & Biologist I've read disagree whole heartly with Mr. Jones.
McAlpine reply :
On 12/25/2013 at 6:17 AM, RoLo said:The list of variables that influence an angler's success rate would go twice around the block.
Among the litany of variables, how did you determine that 'color' was the responsible variable?
'Color' may be blatantly obvious to humans, but that's not a measure of its importance to fish.
The next time you find a color that's hammering bass, immediately switch to another color...any color.
If color is indeed responsible, then the action will quit. Now switch back to the winning pattern again,
and the action should pick-up. Run this color-swap experiment every time you're convinced that color
is the key. I have a hunch that next year at this time, you & I will have similar opinions on lure color
Roger
I'm going to disagree here. There have been multiple times that I have been pre-fishing tournaments and upon catching a a few and starting to put together a plan of action I always try out different colors. Many times I find that fish will key on specific colors. I'm not going to go so far as to say that a hyper-realistic pattern is the most important factor but many times you will find that a general color be it white, chartreuse, black, etc. as a main color on a bait will out perform another general color. The biggest factors on choosing a color for me are light penetration based upon color of the water, what the sky looks like and how much wind/waves there are and season/color of forage. However; to say that color does not play a factor, or even to say that color plays a very minute factor is false.
WRB reply :
It's Dr Jones and his research is creditable regardless of what you or I may think.On 12/29/2013 at 9:16 AM, Catt said:So Tom you agree Mr. Jones some how knows what a bass sees & thinks?
The majority of anglers & Biologist I've read disagree whole heartly with Mr. Jones.
My personal beliefs are based on experience and what I read and observe. I am do not have a degree in the field of marine biology or zoology. What I have observed doesn't coincide with the popular belief that bass see colors similar to what a human does. It's been my experience that bass have extremely good color vision in low light, we don't. How bass see well underwater in the dark has yet to be explained to me. The only explanation that seems logical is bass see ultra violet spectrums, we don't.
Can bass change their flicker rate or magnify their close range vision? Dr Jones published that they can, should I believe you or Jones. Who are the biologist who disagree Jones?
Tom
SirSnookalot reply :
I catch fish based on my experience in the locations I fish, I don't read much as I've been catching fish over 60 years. How many many fish have I caught in dark water at night using a black or dark lure, can't count them all. My success in the dark is not limited to only bass.
Catt reply :
What was the name of the test that was administered to determine a bass can change its "flicker" rate?
Does this same test determine the bass can magnify their close range vision?
How does one go about getting the bass to take these test?
Think about it! Let it sinl in real good!
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