I am really new to fishing Senkos (well I really use the Lunker City Spanky, but it's basically the same thing). I've been forcing myself to use more finesse techniques, with pretty good success. But, a Spanky only will only produce one mabye two fish on average. So my two questions are...
1.How many fish do you catch per Senko?
2.Do you use anything to make them last longer? Like "O" rings or tape?
I use an O ring, and it helps a little.
Some people have posted they use heat shrink, plastic tubes, or straws with success.
Zman products are made from a different material... Elaztech. It's much more stretchy and resilient. After you fish it for a while and work out the salt they actually float. The only caution is you have to store them in their original packs and keep them away from other plastics but you might want to try one of their offerings. Most of them end in Z. For instance Wormz or Shadz. A very interesting side note that when they do get fished a bunch the elaztech will actually stick like Velcro to a bass's teeth.
Good luck!
1.- There´s nothing like the original senko
2.- Nothing lasts as little as an original senko
3.- Switch brands, for example, YUM Dingers last several fish and are easily repaired with Mend It.
You're lucky to get one fish on a senko. If you are wacky rigging it, yes o rings help a lot.
Another Senko thread? You could literally spend days searching on this site alone. I gave up trying to find a stick bait that duplicates the Senko. Going to try the sassy stick soon. My experience with the Lunker City spanky was a hunk of heavy, sinking plastic that folds in half with no action on the fall at all.
When you're wacky rigging any brand of soft stick bait, it definitely helps to use an O ring. Even better, invest in a Wacky Saddle kit.
I don't mind only getting one fish per bait.
As long as it's the right one.
This one choked a Jig with a full length senko trailer (7 inch)
A-Jay
buy some mend-it
Senkos are built for catching fish, not durability. The softness of the worm gives an enticing action as it falls. The large amount of salt impregnated in the plastic releases a lot of taste into a fish's mouth and commits them into biting. The brittle nature of the worm allows for much better hook up than other worms. None of these features allows for longevity .
That's the reason I do NOT use senkos. I use Fishog stick bait. The look identical and lasts about 3 to 4 fish and $4 a pack.
Sometimes I can't get a bite from other brands and sometimes it doesn't matter. But yama senkos are always in my fannie pack or back pack haha
On 12/6/2015 at 1:25 AM, Big C said:I am really new to fishing Senkos (well I really use the Lunker City Spanky, but it's basically the same thing). I've been forcing myself to use more finesse techniques, with pretty good success. But, a Spanky only will only produce one mabye two fish on average. So my two questions are...
1.How many fish do you catch per Senko?
2.Do you use anything to make them last longer? Like "O" rings or tape?
Wait, so you're not even talking about Senkos? A Lunker City Spanky is not a Senko.
On 12/6/2015 at 6:03 AM, Jrob78 said:Wait, so you're not even talking about Senkos? A Lunker City Spanky is not a Senko.
one of my pet peeves is when all stick baits are categorized as senkos.
GYCB Senko is the original and works, however the soft heavy salted plastic isn't durable enough to servive a fighting bass. O- rings, collars, shrink sleeve, tape help to prevent loosing a Senko from casting it and fishing it.
ZMan Zinkerz are good, tough and swim better than most knock off stick baits, try them.
Otherwise pay the $1+ each and catch more bass with the original Senko.
Tom
You have two choices to make!
#1: Lures in your tackle box
#2: Fish in your livewell
Ya can't have both
We've used orings and heat shrink pretty well, I also like the eco pro weight wacky harnesses too!
There are some good options to help with the wacky durability
Hope thats helps a bit for ya
Brian
Tubing around the worm really, really, helps. I can go through 3-4 fish at least on a Senko with rubber tubing serving as an o-ring.
I've also heard that metal wire works pretty well.
Can y'all just hold it down please?
Gary does not like being disturbed when he's counting money
Roger
On 12/6/2015 at 4:24 AM, A-Jay said:I don't mind only getting one fish per bait.
As long as it's the right one.
This one choked a Jig with a full length senko trailer (7 inch)
A-Jay
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I'd give a bag of senkos for that beast...sweet.
On 12/6/2015 at 6:03 AM, Jrob78 said:Wait, so you're not even talking about Senkos? A Lunker City Spanky is not a Senko.
On 12/6/2015 at 6:07 AM, Chance Brown said:one of my pet peeves is when all stick baits are categorized as senkos.
No Sir, a Spanky is not a Senko. Even though I've been using Spankies. Due to the Spanky being a little obscure in comparison to the Senko, and since they basically do the same thing with the same problems (fragility) I just said Senko, instead of getting the what's a Spanky, question
On 12/6/2015 at 7:29 AM, RoLo said:Can y'all just hold it down please?
Gary does not like being disturbed when he's counting money
Roger
I use Senkos, but not nearly as much as I use
Bass Pro Stik-Os in 4" and 5". I find they work
extremely well, and they're readily available for
me as I'm close to a BPS.
Used Yum, and other brands, but I like the
Stik-Os the best. But there are colors I can only
get in GYCB Senkos, so I keep those on hand.
BizzBaits makes a g-r-e-a-t stick worm that has easily as much action as a Senko and lasts longer and is considerably cheaper - but I do have over one hundred bags of Senkos.
GY would lose money if his baits were more durable.
Less people would be stocking up on them.
4.- Gary needs all the sales he can get and us helping him since we need to support his other business, A little bird told me his effort as a Kobe meat lord isn't doing well.
On 12/6/2015 at 9:09 AM, PUMP KNOWS said:GY would lose money if his baits were more durable.
Less people would be stocking up on them.
...because they wouldn't work as well.
O'rings like people have said, though sometimes the senko flys off the hook during the fight. T rigging, after a fish or two I take a little off the top and re-rig.
Do you have rock bass in your waters? They like to dwindle my senkos. Dang things.
Screwlock hooks help a ton if you're T-rigging them also. I caught an unheard of 5 fish off a single Senko last Thursday before I got tired of catching dinks and went back to real fishing
I just consider it the cost of doing business.
I would suggest looking into the Zman elaztech products. Super tough, great action, and they catch fish.
I have pretty much switched to a 1/16oz weedless wacky head and a trick worm. Way cheaper, and shows them something a little different. Plenty of nice fish caught on that rig for me.
On 12/8/2015 at 12:54 AM, everythingthatswims said:I have pretty much switched to a 1/16oz weedless wacky head and a trick worm. Way cheaper, and shows them something a little different. Plenty of nice fish caught on that rig for me.
I'll have to try that, how well do they skip? That's one reason I like throwing weightless wacky worms, I can skip them under docks and trees very easily.
On 12/8/2015 at 12:06 AM, etrout72 said:I would suggest looking into the Zman elaztech products. Super tough, great action, and they catch fish.
I know Elaz-Tech plastics are insanley more durable than normal plastic, but they float. Do they pack them with enough salt to make them sink?
On 12/6/2015 at 2:39 AM, MidwestF1sh said:You're lucky to get one fish on a senko. If you are wacky rigging it, yes o rings help a lot.
On a side note if you are wacky rigging it check out the buzz bug sassy stick. Watch their 2 min video of the action of it and I doubt youll want to use a different brand. It has amazing action and the plastic feels more durable.
As MidwestF1sh mentioned in this comment nothing compares to the original GYCB senko. Years ago i tried different brands to cut down on cost, but the senko shimmies unllike any other brand (it's why they cost so much and a lot of colors are usually out of stock most places). It's been said before, but the statement "Often imitated, never duplicated" was probably meant for GYCB senko. You just have to understand that when you throw them you are basically trying to catch one fish per bait. Sometimes you might get lucky and catch 2, but rarely have I ever had a senko last 3 plus fish.
On 12/6/2015 at 2:19 AM, Raul said:1.- There´s nothing like the original senko
2.- Nothing lasts as little as an original senko
3.- Switch brands, for example, YUM Dingers last several fish and are easily repaired with Mend It.
-This is the post I meant to quote, not the one I previously quoted.
3/8" heat shrink tubing found at lowe's or home depot.... really don't even need to apply heat, can just slide the tubing over the worm and stick the hook through it. allows me to fish senkos MUCH longer than the traditional method. i also think it allows for better hookups like this than having it parallel to the bait like you would with an o ring.
site member wayne P has a great write up here:
http://www.bigindianabass.com/big_indiana_bass/a-better-wacky-rigging-method.html
On 12/8/2015 at 2:32 AM, Bassquatch said:As MidwestF1sh mentioned in this comment nothing compares to the original GYCB senko. Years ago i tried different brands to cut down on cost, but the senko shimmies unllike any other brand (it's why they cost so much and a lot of colors are usually out of stock most places). It's been said before, but the statement "Often imitated, never duplicated" was probably meant for GYCB senko. You just have to understand that when you throw them you are basically trying to catch one fish per bait. Sometimes you might get lucky and catch 2, but rarely have I ever had a senko last 3 plus fish.
I have gotten way more, in the 10 or so range many times. Its rare anymore that I only get one or two fish. I would most likely been bit off by a pike if so. Plus with mend-it Iv been in the 20+ with one senko. If it get torn or a slash it gets put in bag, when I get home a liittle brush of mend-it and its good for next outing.
Mend-it just saves sooo much money paying for itself 10-20-30 fold
If the tail of a keitech impact doesnt get bit off Ive repaired one bait 8-9 times
I do not think anything else works as well as a true Senko but I have been using the Gambler Ace a lot recently and they seem [to me] a very very close 2nd to Gary's Senko and they are also considerably less expensive than Yamamoto's bait--understand sometimes you just have to grin and bear it when it comes to price but I am always experimenting with other "stick" baits as far as price
On 12/8/2015 at 2:18 AM, Big C said:I'll have to try that, how well do they skip? That's one reason I like throwing weightless wacky worms, I can skip them under docks and trees very easily.
It doesn't skip as easily but it definitely skips. doesn't get hung on docks or brush either!
On 12/8/2015 at 8:10 AM, everythingthatswims said:It doesn't skip as easily but it definitely skips. doesn't get hung on docks or brush either!
Sweet, I'm going to try that next time. I actually have a pack of weighted wacky hooks I've never used.
I have also switched over to a wacky rigged trick worm; haven't noticed a drop in size.
Skip gap hooks and mend it. Cost of doing business.
Ive never even fished a senko, or any other stick baits.
I use Yum Dingers instead. They're more durable yet still have good action. If I'm wacky rigging them, I'll use an Eco Pro Tungsten Wacky Weight which helps to bump up the durability as well as the rate of fall.
On 12/8/2015 at 2:20 AM, Big C said:I know Elaz-Tech plastics are insanley more durable than normal plastic, but they float. Do they pack them with enough salt to make them sink?
They make one called the zinkerz thats a slow sinking worm similar looking to a senko. IMO the floating action is what entices fish. Try a fattyZ carolina or texas rigged. I've caught a bass that bit the worm, not the hook!
On 12/8/2015 at 2:32 AM, Bassquatch said:Sometimes you might get lucky and catch 2, but rarely have I ever had a senko last 3 plus fish.
I use an O-ring and Owner weedless wacky hooks. I get at least three fish; usually more, per Senko!
Tight lines,
Bob
On 12/9/2015 at 4:22 AM, C0lt said:Ive never even fished a senko, or any other stick baits.
You tell lies.
I also use an O ring, I can catch countless fish on it and it never gets torn up. Just teeth marks and beat up a little, but it never gets thrown off the line cut in half.
i use whatever is on sale. the fish don't mind. after you've gotten over the whole stick bait thing you can buy endless amounts of soft plastics for cheap in the forums. some long, some squiggly, have legs, some don't have legs, ribs, tails, arms, eyes, skirts, antennas. the fish don't mind.
On 12/9/2015 at 10:01 AM, HoosierHawgs said:You tell lies.
lol I swear
On 12/9/2015 at 9:10 AM, desmobob said:I use an O-ring and Owner weedless wacky hooks. I get at least three fish; usually more, per Senko!
Tight lines,
Bob
Agreed, if you are using an O-ring you can get them to last longer. I'm talking strictly about texas rigged.
I can't beleive there are so many senko threads. I have used Yum Dingers and BPS Stik-Os and I don't see any difference between the two. Do you really think the fish would eat a senko and wouldn't eat a dinger or any other senko type baits. I don't think the fish care.
I gotta say I didn't read the thread, but that's one of the best titles for a post I've seen on here.