10" ribbon tails have been driving me nuts. The tails often wrap on wood and actually hold on enough to cause me to have to retrieve them. This is in a dense wood situation. Creatures and toads don't get much of a bite compared to the 10 and 12 inch worms do. Looking for maybe a paddle type tail for some thumping action. Any suggestions on brands to try?
The 12 inch mans jelly worm I like black berry for where I fish with stained water.
On 3/16/2016 at 3:27 AM, EricTheAngler said:The 12 inch mans jelly worm I like black berry for where I fish with stained water.
Exactly ^^^
I use grape or blackberry
Uptons 13" straight tail nightstaker or SoCal Magic
On 3/16/2016 at 4:24 AM, Catt said:Uptons 13" straight tail nightstaker or SoCal Magic
+1
Uptons Customs make a spade tail "UC" worm, the 10" fishes big and his dragon tail is designed after the trick worm shape; straight tail, UC and dragon are all straight tail type worms that go through cover good. Aaron's tragic is another popular color.
Tom
I've never heard of either of these brands, I'm guessing they're available from t.w. ?
Manns Jelly worms are. Not sure on the others.
Go to your local walmart and pick up a pack of mans jelly worms for under five dollars. You will find everthing you need, or want at walmart 80% of the time if you just look.
On 3/16/2016 at 5:25 AM, 119 said:I've never heard of either of these brands, I'm guessing they're available from t.w. ?
Yelp!
On 3/16/2016 at 6:24 AM, EricTheAngler said:Go to your local walmart and pick up a pack of mans jelly worms for under five dollars. You will find everthing you need, or want at walmart 80% of the time if you just look.
Uh!!! No will not! My Wally World carries none!
On 3/16/2016 at 6:26 AM, Catt said:Yelp!
Uh!!! No will not! My Wally World carries none!
Hmm, My walmart is in the center of some big fishing hubs in the southcarolina region so mine might be a bit larger in the fishing department. I retract my statement and say if you can find it grab up a bag or two.
On 3/16/2016 at 5:25 AM, 119 said:I've never heard of either of these brands, I'm guessing they're available from t.w. ?
Upton's Customs are available from TW in limited colors, you may need to order direct from Mann's if looking for the 12" worms.
Tom
On 3/16/2016 at 6:29 AM, EricTheAngler said:Hmm, My walmart is in the center of some big fishing hubs in the southcarolina region so mine might be a bit larger in the fishing department. I retract my statement and say if you can find it grab up a bag or two.
My Walmart carries the Mann's 12" They are down at the very bottom of the section with the plastics. They usually only have a couple colors. Right now they just have the Watermelon Red color in the 12" but it works well too. $3.94 a pack of 10
If you're looking for for a curly tail that doesn't wrap around timber nearly as bad try the Culprit Fat max. They got 6, 7 and 9". Terrific baits
China-mart isn't my first choice for anything except cheap ammo! No walmart in Fl. carries more than a handful of non saltwater tackle useful for soaking a shrimp by a snowbird. BPS had the 12" jelly worms but they look very transparent. Looking for a 10"+ worm not Culprits ribbon tails. I'll check out the Fat Maxx. Thanks everybody...
Yum Mighty worm or Strike King Bull worm is few possible choices as well.
LOL China-Mart.
Upton's Customs are the way to go.
Netbait makes the t-Mac in a 9" model I really like it.
Ever think of just trimming the tail so it doesn't catch on wood as much. Just a thought.
10" Yamamoto Kut Tail is your ticket!
Producto makes a great 10", 12" straight tail worm with a paddle tail...The Yum 10" mighty worm is great, if you don't like the tails getting wrapped, The Culprit Fat Max comes in a few sizes that are designed for flipping weeds and the tails do not get twisted, GYB makes a great curly tail finesse worm that is 8-10" long...
I use the Producto worms which come in a huge bag for like $5...They are an OEM that makes awesome baits, we see many of their baits under other labels, but Producto sells on their site and DIcks used to carry them, but I love their bigger worms...Mizmo Scorpion worms are cheap as well on Hagens Fish *, that worm looks great and while there grab some brand name treble hook, worm hooks, jigheads half the price as Barlows or any other place online, some pricing is better than Wholesale from Maurice etc....
I'm partial to the YUM Mightee worm but the Upton's is a good bait too, just a lot pricier. Another option I'd suggest would be a 7" stickworm on a weighted T rig. While it's not as long, they're very bulky so they give off a big profile that appeals to larger fish.
On 3/16/2016 at 12:06 PM, primetime said:Producto makes a great 10", 12" straight tail worm with a paddle tail..
I use the Producto worms which come in a huge bag for like $5...They are an OEM that makes awesome baits, we see many of their baits under other labels, but Producto sells on their site
That's exactly the worm I'm looking for. I've always liked Producto and haven't seen them in decades. I thought they were long gone. I didn't think to search for their website. Thanks for your help.
Case plastics Big Momma - 11" segmented - easy to shorten - best worm between 6" and 12" I know of
On 3/16/2016 at 12:06 PM, primetime said:I use the Producto worms which come in a huge bag for like $5...They are an OEM that makes awesome baits, we see many of their baits under other labels,
A guy local to me is a big booster for their saltwater sister company, 12 Fathom. He gave me a sample pack and I have caught fish will every lure I have tried. They make a great little ribbon tailed worm, lots of action and very light weight for the size. Their stuff in general seems to be a good balance between soft/durable and buoyant/weighted.
10" kut tail ymcb or possibly 7" senkos? I know thy aren't 10+" but the 7" senkos are massive!
I always carry a bag of the big paddle tail 10" grape Producto worms since they are buoyant and have a different action than any other worms...They also make a really good bait called the Buzz Shad. It is a swimbait/Fluke Hybrid with a burner or Ultra Vibe spped worm tail that floats on the pause....They are inexpensive and hold up well. They also come through cover as well as any other worm and something about that grape translucent color makes them work really well on certain days...I see the 12 Fathom baits around but have not tried them yet, I won't be doing much Saltwater for a while....
Just curious; where do you find 10" or 12" Producto worms?
Tom
My issue with 10" worms is that they are heavy enough they can tear off the hook with an aggressive cast. I save the 10" worms for those occasions when I am pitching less than 40' or so. I don't know about pitching the Culprit Fat Max worms, but I know that they work on jika rigs with a 4/0 hook.
Mann's makes a paddle tail worm in two different sizes and I've had the same issue with the larger size of that worm, i.e. it is heavy enough that it will tear off on the cast.
I catch some big ol fish on the Mann's Jelly worm in the 12inch. Personally I fish them on the Pumpkin ED jig heads from YUM.
On 3/18/2016 at 10:27 PM, WRB said:Just curious; where do you find 10" or 12" Producto worms?
Tom
Producto's web site direct. Producto's do have a unique squishy feel but at the same time are tough.
Primetime, I saw the buzz shad too. Ordered some along with the worm. Thanks.
On 3/19/2016 at 1:27 AM, 119 said:Producto's web site direct. Producto's do have a unique squishy feel but at the same time are tough.
Primetime, I saw the buzz shad too. Ordered some along with the worm. Thanks.
I see the 8" tournament worm, don't see anything longer.....?
Strembridge Flip Tail worms were very similar looking to Producto worms.
Tom
Culprit 10" & 12" are hard to find in all colors.
www.brannansbass.com
This Texas place knows there baits, everyone fishes.
On 3/16/2016 at 12:06 PM, primetime said:Producto makes a great 10", 12" straight tail worm with a paddle tail...The Yum 10" mighty worm is great, if you don't like the tails getting wrapped, The Culprit Fat Max comes in a few sizes that are designed for flipping weeds and the tails do not get twisted, GYB makes a great curly tail finesse worm that is 8-10" long...
I use the Producto worms which come in a huge bag for like $5...They are an OEM that makes awesome baits, we see many of their baits under other labels, but Producto sells on their site and DIcks used to carry them, but I love their bigger worms...Mizmo Scorpion worms are cheap as well on Hagens Fish *, that worm looks great and while there grab some brand name treble hook, worm hooks, jigheads half the price as Barlows or any other place online, some pricing is better than Wholesale from Maurice etc....
Thanks for posting that. I just ordered four bags of the 8" Tournament Worm. You should get a commission!
well, these are only 9" not the 10 you're looking for.... but i get a lot of bites on the netbait super t mac worms. green pumpkin or junebug.
What do you guys rod wise when you throw the big 12" Jelly Worms?
On 3/19/2016 at 4:26 AM, Burtonxj said:What do you guys rod wise when you throw the big 12" Jelly Worms?
I have have a couple set ups. Either a MH 7'2 Daiwa Lexa with an Exceller 100 reel with 15lbs Segar Fluro or I have a 7' Daiwa MH Exceller Rod with a 3000 class reel and 12lbs mono.
On 3/19/2016 at 4:06 AM, bigbill said:Culprit 10" & 12" are hard to find in all colors.
www.brannansbass.com
This Texas place knows there baits, everyone fishes.
Brannans is not 5 minutes from me. Very close to Pat Mays Lake.
Very nice and knowledgeable people at Brannans as well.
A lot of people around here are into fishing or at least the husbands are.
Burtonxj I use Med Hvy with F tip 7ft Mojo Bass rod with Lews 6.4 reel with strait braid
On 3/19/2016 at 4:26 AM, Burtonxj said:What do you guys rod wise when you throw the big 12" Jelly Worms?
For giant worms 10" to 16" I use my jig rods 5 or 6 power fast action with 14lb FC and Owner 5103 hook size 5/0 or 6/0 usually with 1/4 to 1/2 bullet weight same color as the worm rigged weedless.
Tom
Thanks for the replies.
Rigged a 12" up on my 6'6" MHF Premier (12lb Invizx) last night. Gonna throw it tomorrow.
I use a cherrywood 6'6" med action spinning rod. I just haven't picked a replacement worm rod yet. I have them.
On 3/19/2016 at 12:21 AM, Fishes in trees said:My issue with 10" worms is that they are heavy enough they can tear off the hook with an aggressive cast.
This was my first cast with a Rage Tail Anaconda. It flew an impressive distance. My heaviest (well, non-surf) rod is only a M so I was trying to make up for it with a ton of force. Now I just give them a gentle flip and find they go decently far.
On 3/19/2016 at 4:09 AM, Turtle135 said:Thanks for posting that. I just ordered four bags of the 8" Tournament Worm. You should get a commission!
I had a two of their 7" Pro Snake lures in my sample bag, both were hit on their first cast. I lost one to a biteoff and landed the second. Within five or six casts it was hit again and bit off. I am going to order more just as soon as I can figure out how to rig them to get better hook-ups. I was t-rigging them sideways, they moved a ton even with a super slow retrieve.
On 3/19/2016 at 7:43 AM, Burtonxj said:Thanks for the replies.
Rigged a 12" up on my 6'6" MHF Premier (12lb Invizx) last night. Gonna throw it tomorrow.
What hook do you plan to use?
On 3/19/2016 at 8:55 AM, WRB said:What hook do you plan to use?
Currently rigged on a 4/0 Gamakatsu EWG. Might hit the Walmart on the way out tomorrow and pick up some 5/0.
I am with wrb/Tom I don't see any 10"-12" worms on producto site.
I do see a lot of slightly unique soft plastics that I really like & need to try tho!
like the 2 back packs i have stuffed with soft plastics aren't enough allready!!
Fatter worm, Strike King has the Bull Worm, but if you are looking for a skinny more trickworm like bait go for the Netbait Super T-Mac.
The Tournament Ripple 9" is there but it has the ribbon tail the OP didn't want.
For those that have trouble slinging the large worms off finesse the cast a little. Paul Elias throw these worms successfully. Its not the same as a crankbait etc where you can just sling the hell out of it and not expect it to possibly move a little. It is a long soft skinny piece of plastic and has to be treated that way. As with all different baits techniques are different including the cast.
The Mann's 12" Jelly Worm with hardnose is a option that would give a little more strength at the hook. This is the Hardnose version that is not the same as the identical in appearance The Original 12" Jelly Worm.
Another 10" option with the paddle tail would be the http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Uptons_UC_Worm_10_8pk/descpage-UPTUCWM.html. I have no experience with the UC Worm but maybe someone else does.
Here are a few no name brand on ebay.
With the bps stick o worms 7 1/4" (senko type) monster size make sure you use a larger hook. I would measure it for a hook and go up one size larger.
I tried one with the only hook I had. At the droppoff i seen a very large bass with my stick o and line hanging out of his mouth. I waited to set the hook. I misses it. I was two items short of a happy meal.
Motto, when going to use new plastics check for the hook size before you go to use them. I paid the price.
I named the bass that got away George Burns the stick o was his cigar.
Rage Tail Thumper cut along the score line on the tail.
http://www.ragetail.com/news/the-rage-tail-thumper-a-10-inchplatic-worm-with-more/
Never had a problem with any of the bigger zoom worms. I fish them on a magnum shakey head most of the time or a 5/0 worm hook I don't like the ewg hooks on a big worm. The super tmac is all I throw on a shakey head. I don't cut it down any and you'll still catch 12 inch fish on that big worm but you'll attract the attention of some full grown spots
On 3/19/2016 at 3:49 AM, WRB said:I see the 8" tournament worm, don't see anything longer.....?
Strembridge Flip Tail worms were very similar looking to Producto worms.
Tom
I guess they may have stopped making the larger worms, I am pretty sure they had a 10" & 12" worm at one point, but I have not visited their website in years, I once stopped by the facility and they are an OEM in Longwood Florida who makes baits for a bunch of different companies, I am not sure who, but here in Florida the Buzz tail Shads and Tournament worms were popular since they were availale at most tackle shops, Walmart and Dick's etc...I have not seen a bag on the shelf in years, but they may have changed their business model to mostly OEM....
They are a smaller company and make quality baits, so I would not be surprised if they make any worm that looks similar...I need to check out the Stembridge baits, it would make sense for a niche company to use them to pour their baits in bulk....
Bass Chow makes a high flotation hand poured 9 3/4" straight tail called Oh Daddy and currently on sale at Last Chance tackle, might want to take a look.
Tom
I think I found what I wanted from Ghostbaits.com. The 9" PT Killer Magnum. I'm finding more and more that to find what I want I have to search for small time cottage industry guys. I'm just an odd ball angler who fishes odd ball stuff!
The Netbait T Mac or Mann's jelly worm! The T Mac you have alot of colors to pick VS. the Jelly worm!