Cold water speed cranking 2024
WRB reply :
Just watched a Tactical Bassin vedio on the subject of speed cranking for cold water bass, very interesting.
The lure is R2Sea 75mm (3") 3/4 oz deep diver that runs to 18' in natural colors.
The tecnique is fast retrieve with stop and go to trigger a reaction strike.
I know this works and Megabass made a similar lure about 5 years that isn't any longer available, so very interested in the R2Sea Tactical lure but sold out until next March....back orders!
Tom
Bluebasser86 reply :
I was fishing a squarebill pretty fast Monday in 50* water. Only got 2 bites on it, but it's winter time and when 1 of them looks like this, I'm okay with it.
TnRiver46 reply :
I like to pull them 2.0 mph while sitting at the steering wheel and watching the depth finder all winter long
fin reply :
On 12/11/2019 at 1:12 PM, WRB said:The tecnique is fast retrieve with stop and go to trigger a reaction strike.
Is it like a suspending diver? I mean, when it stops, does it really stop, or does it start quickly rising like most divers?
BoatSquirrel reply :
The Tactical DD is a floater, but its the way it floats thats the juice. When you stop it, the bait wobbles and backs up towards a following fish which is why they suggest you throw it on braid. Braid means no line coil to pull the bait forward which lets it do its magic. I know of a few other cranks that will back up and on the right day the fish eat them with anger.
Dens228 reply :
On 12/11/2019 at 6:10 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I was fishing a squarebill pretty fast Monday in 50* water. Only got 2 bites on it, but it's winter time and when 1 of them looks like this, I'm okay with it.
50!! I need to move to a place where that's winter!
I went out 10 days ago and the water temp was 36! Now it's covered in ice!
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 12/11/2019 at 9:31 PM, Dens228 said:50!! I need to move to a place where that's winter!
I went out 10 days ago and the water temp was 36! Now it's covered in ice!
Run to a different part of the lake and it's that cold, all depends on the wind direction, speed, and generation. The wind changed direction and the water temp dropped 3 degrees in that spot from when I started until when I left. Guys complain about figuring a normal lake out, try a power plant lake where water temps vary wildly from day to day and hour to hour.
Kev-mo reply :
On 12/11/2019 at 1:12 PM, WRB said:Just watched a Tactical Bassin vedio on the subject of speed cranking for cold water bass, very interesting.
The lure is R2Sea 75mm (3") 3/4 oz deep diver that runs to 18' in natural colors.
The tecnique is fast retrieve with stop and go to trigger a reaction strike.
I know this works and Megabass made a similar lure about 5 years that isn't any longer available, so very interested in the R2Sea Tactical lure but sold out until next March....back orders!
Tom
What was the Megabass lure? Just want to see what it looks like.
I'm very curious about this lure myself, especially the depth range. I want to know if it will run properly in that 1-5 ft range. Should've bought some the night the video aired...
Also fish will hit/choke various other square bills. The TB guys do a good job of showing how to vary your retrieve etc.
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Todd2 reply :
I've been catching on a Shad Rap with medium retrieve till it hits something (the stop) and, like usual, most bites in cold water are felt as the rod loading up as I begin the retrieve again. This last weekend I was fishing a smaller shallow lake, water temp was 42 and they didn't want to play. I did get one dink on a bladebait yo-yoing on a shallow drop from 8 to about 12 feet.
Tizi reply :
The Megabass lure was a Deep-x 300. I ordered a few of the DDs a few days after launch. Still waiting. I plan to try them over the Christmas holiday, if they get to me by then!
Dens228 reply :
On 12/11/2019 at 9:36 PM, Bluebasser86 said:Run to a different part of the lake and it's that cold, all depends on the wind direction, speed, and generation. The wind changed direction and the water temp dropped 3 degrees in that spot from when I started until when I left. Guys complain about figuring a normal lake out, try a power plant lake where water temps vary wildly from day to day and hour to hour.
The quarry I was at was even colder on the other side.
NYWayfarer reply :
Cold water and speed anything sounds like an oxymoron to me.
Dens228 reply :
On 12/12/2019 at 12:55 AM, NYWayfarer said:Cold water and speed anything sounds like an oxymoron to me.
Me too but there's always something new to try. Kind of like when I got back into this bass addiction and did well catching 12-14 inch bass on wacky rigs and weightless t-rigs and felt there was no need to try big skirted jigs since the bass weren't that big, then decided to try them and caught much bigger bass in the same areas.
WRB reply :
On 12/11/2019 at 10:59 PM, Kev-mo said:What was the Megabass lure? Just want to see what it looks like.
I'm very curious about this lure myself, especially the depth range. I want to know if it will run properly in that 1-5 ft range. Should've bought some the night the video aired...
Also fish will hit/choke various other square bills. The TB guys do a good job of showing how to vary your retrieve etc.
It was over 5 years ago maybe longer before the Deep X series and looks very similar, I have 1 in clown lost all the Shad colors. The lure was a very tight wiggle deep diving crank just under 3" and weighs about 5/8 oz. The Tactical lure looks a little longer and heavier and should work good for speed cranking.
Tom
clh121787 reply :
caught last week. deep cranking. was on a sick bite 3 days in a row best 20 fish went over 100 pounds
riverbasser reply :
Wish I could make one video and backorder a product the same day.
I do believe it would work. For me a crankbait is always about a reaction bite no matter the speed or water temp. And I feel I've been giving a similar presentation with lipless baits.
I cant say what makes their $15 crank better than other tight wobblers until I held one and fished it. Pictures always deceive me. I feel like berkeley's line of deep cranks would also work. Cant remember the name but they are much smaller profile than most DD due to adding a small weight in the lip. They also have a nice tight wobble
GreenPig reply :
I should have my 4 Tactical cranks Wednesday. So I'll soon be high speed winter cranking.
fin reply :
On 12/12/2019 at 10:07 AM, clh121787 said:caught last week. deep cranking. was on a sick bite 3 days in a row best 20 fish went over 100 pounds
How many inhale it like that? That one looks like a goner.
senile1 reply :
I like this idea and crankbaits have been good to me on occasion in upper 40s to 50 degree water. When not frozen, the water here gets down into the 30s with 39 degree water in the deepest areas based on the physical properties of water. I don't think much, if any, of the water the Texas and California guys are fishing gets this cold so I will have to try this for myself in waters at these temperatures. Maybe I just haven't spent enough time on it to get it to work in water just above freezing temperatures in the past. I have to see it myself before I believe it is a consistent approach at these water temperatures. It would definitely be part of the arsenal in southern Missouri where water temperatures stay in the mid to upper forties and even the 50s in winter on the larger lakes.
WRB reply :
The majority of California bass lakes are located below 5,000 ft altitude where the climate is warmer. However I learned to bass fish at Big Bear lake located in SoCal at 7,200 ft evelation and freezes. We have several micro climates mostly influenced by Pacific Ocean coastal areas, high alititude mountains and deserts, anglers can find nearly every type of bass water from rivers, delta but mostly man made impoundments for water stroage and flood control located at the base of mountain canyons at lower alititude that stay above freezing temperatures.
Speed cranking isn't something that I have tried, lots of crankbait fishing during the pre spawn now at our local lakes to about mid Feburary, very interesting concept.
Tom
clh121787 reply :
On 12/12/2019 at 9:18 PM, fin said:How many inhale it like that? That one looks like a goner.
some do. forsure. if they cant be revived they are fillets for the freezer.
JediAmoeba reply :
I have been wondering when they say "cold", how cold are they talking? Most of the places they fish probably don't hit 30 degree temps or ice up.
Also, I am disappointed they are OOS. When they get new lures they should limit the amount sold to each customer so everyone has a chance to get 1 or 2. I watched the video and it wasn't available yet, by the time I looked they were gone...
Tizi reply :
On 12/13/2019 at 3:19 AM, JediAmoeba said:I have been wondering when they say "cold", how cold are they talking? Most of the places they fish probably don't hit 30 degree temps or ice up.
Also, I am disappointed they are OOS. When they get new lures they should limit the amount sold to each customer so everyone has a chance to get 1 or 2. I watched the video and it wasn't available yet, by the time I looked they were gone...
I watched the episode and they were saying Clear Lake gets down to 36 degrees in the Winter. They said at times, there can be ice on the shoreline. That's pretty cold. I agree, OOS as soon as I watched the video.
Hammer 4 reply :
On 12/13/2019 at 3:19 AM, JediAmoeba said:I have been wondering when they say "cold", how cold are they talking? Most of the places they fish probably don't hit 30 degree temps or ice up.
Also, I am disappointed they are OOS. When they get new lures they should limit the amount sold to each customer so everyone has a chance to get 1 or 2. I watched the video and it wasn't available yet, by the time I looked they were gone...
Checked last night, the TB cranks are back ordered till March 5...
ryanerb reply :
On 12/11/2019 at 1:12 PM, WRB said:Just watched a Tactical Bassin vedio on the subject of speed cranking for cold water bass, very interesting.
The lure is R2Sea 75mm (3") 3/4 oz deep diver that runs to 18' in natural colors.
The tecnique is fast retrieve with stop and go to trigger a reaction strike.
I know this works and Megabass made a similar lure about 5 years that isn't any longer available, so very interested in the R2Sea Tactical lure but sold out until next March....back orders!
Tom
So I guess you've been holding out on all of us for 5 years and now that Tactical Bassin made a video, all the secrets are coming out 
HAHA Just kidding.
Well if any members here got extras, maybe they would be happy to sell you one to try out.
I'll be interested to see how successful the baits are for our members.
Nothin like the youtube channels now creating their own baits, Googan Squad, Tactical, etc. A perfect marketing platform!
River2Sea seems to be a manufacturer happy to partner with celebs, just like they have with ISH, etc. I'm not familiar with the owner of R2S, but they are much more into partnerships and labeling than some of the other lure guys.
WRB reply :
A fishing partner gave me the Megabass crankbait after catching bass on it all day.
Had I realized the lure wouldn’t be around much longer I would have bought more a few.
Tom
galyonj reply :
On 12/12/2019 at 9:18 PM, fin said:How many inhale it like that? That one looks like a goner.
I had a dink choke a lipless a few weeks ago. Don't think I've ever had that happen before.
Got it out by going up through the gill plate with the pliers on my Leatherman. Fish had no blood leaking out and swam off to fight another day.
WRB reply :
About 10 years ago there was a group of speed trollers at our local lakes that caught a lot of big bass during the winter months. This group had some well known swimbait anglers and they trolled swimbaits about 4 mph. I thought at the time the technique was an effort to locate wolf packs of active big bass, then stop to cast to them.
I was wrong they figured out fast and erratic lures that looked like trout triggered more strikes then the slower presentations most of these anglers promoted.
Tom
TnRiver46 reply :
On 12/14/2019 at 1:59 AM, WRB said:About 10 years ago there was a group of speed trollers at our local lakes that caught a lot of big bass during the winter months. This group had some well known swimbait anglers and they trolled swimbaits about 4 mph. I thought at the time the technique was an effort to locate wolf packs of active big bass, then stop to cast to them.
I was wrong they figured out fast and erratic lures that looked like trout triggered more strikes then the slower presentations most of these anglers promoted.
Tom
I do this all the time. The problem is when you stop and cast you never catch anything. Go back to trolling and immediately start catching again
WRB reply :
Sinking big swimbaits can be cast over 60 yards easily and control the depth nearly entire retreive. Crankbaits go down to a specific depth when they reach thier running depth and stay at that depth for only a few yards when casts but stay at the desired depth as long as the boat is moving forward when trolling. For this reason I teach new anglers how to catch bass on crankbaits by trolling them.
Tom
Tizi reply :
I am thinking these might work pretty good for trolling? The new larger sized Shad Dancer, Rapala Black Friday.
Joshua Vandamm reply :
On 12/12/2019 at 12:55 AM, NYWayfarer said:Cold water and speed anything sounds like an oxymoron to me.
Never the less... ????
Joshua Vandamm reply :
5.7 last week burning a chrome lipless. “Hunting” divers are a different animal... but fast is fast. LOL
On 12/11/2019 at 1:12 PM, WRB said:Just watched a Tactical Bassin vedio on the subject of speed cranking for cold water bass, very interesting.
The lure is R2Sea 75mm (3") 3/4 oz deep diver that runs to 18' in natural colors.
The tecnique is fast retrieve with stop and go to trigger a reaction strike.
I know this works and Megabass made a similar lure about 5 years that isn't any longer available, so very interested in the R2Sea Tactical lure but sold out until next March....back orders!
Tom
They suggested it pulled bites like and a-rig. I think that was a mistake. Just not possible. It’s a crank. I’m sure it’s good. I ordered 4. But that’s just over selling
Joshua Vandamm reply :
On 12/13/2019 at 9:24 AM, galyonj said:I had a dink choke a lipless a few weeks ago. Don't think I've ever had that happen before.
Got it out by going up through the gill plate with the pliers on my Leatherman. Fish had no blood leaking out and swam off to fight another day.
Lipless. 5-5. 44F
TroyCopeland05 reply :
On 12/11/2019 at 9:31 PM, Dens228 said:50!! I need to move to a place where that's winter!
Move near Sacramento, California the coldest its got the winter so far is 39.
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