I did some searching on the forum yesterday to find the answer to my question but couldn't find it. So... Next month I'm on my way to Kentucky Lake for my annual fishing trip and I'd like to try fishing shaky heads out on the ledges. I've been looking at the zillion different plastics to use and and thought I'd try a Zoom Trick Worm.
My question: Will a Zoom Trick Worm stand up on a shaky head? (Will the tail float?) Or will it slowly fall down as the jig sits on the bottom?
It will lay down unless its the "original" trick worm with no salt added. A trick work on a shakey head is a great rig though.
When I fish a shakey head, I use a ribbon tail, or a squirrel tail worm by big bite baits, as its tail is buoyant and sticks straight up. For me and around here, the black or red ribbon tail works great.
Jeff (00mod) ONLY uses a trick worm on a shakeyhead. so yes, it will without doubt work.
Myself, I prefer the magnum shkeyhead worm by zoom..... but when it come down to it you can use ANY bait you want on a shakeyhead.
Look for some hand poured plastic worms with no salt. They float the best. Check out a company called Sneed Products. They are based in Kentucky and make worms for exactly what you are talking about.
Trick worm on shaky head is deadly - very deadly.
No ... they don't float from my experience. Working the lure will keep the tail up and "limply" fall down. That is part of the allure IMO.
Not a big elaztec fan, but the zman shakeyhead worms are becoming a favorite. They standup better than anything Ive used and are very durable. Only downside is its darn near impossible to put them on a screw type keeper.
On 6/11/2014 at 9:41 PM, Steveo-1969 said:I did some searching on the forum yesterday to find the answer to my question but couldn't find it. So... Next month I'm on my way to Kentucky Lake for my annual fishing trip and I'd like to try fishing shaky heads out on the ledges. I've been looking at the zillion different plastics to use and and thought I'd try a Zoom Trick Worm.
My question: Will a Zoom Trick Worm stand up on a shaky head? (Will the tail float?) Or will it slowly fall down as the jig sits on the bottom?
1.- No
2.- Yes
It really doesn´t matter if it stands up, you will catch fish.
All I use for my shakey head are Charlies Worms. These things float and work very well!!!
As long as its not the "super salt" or whatever they call it. The un-salted worms will float pretty well. These are the majority of what I use as well
On 6/11/2014 at 11:24 PM, Raul said:1.- No
2.- Yes
It really doesn´t matter if it stands up, you will catch fish.
In my opinion you will catch more with a floating plastic. The salted baits will catch fish on the fall and if you shake it & drag it just as the floating plastics do. The difference will be apparent when you need to deadstick it, in that situation I'm putting my money on the floating plastic.
That trick worm on a 3/8oz drop shot can be deadly out on the ledges.
Just make sure it says "The Original" Trick worm, not the salted ones. The original has no salt, and will float
On 6/11/2014 at 9:41 PM, Steveo-1969 said:I did some searching on the forum yesterday to find the answer to my question but couldn't find it. So... Next month I'm on my way to Kentucky Lake for my annual fishing trip and I'd like to try fishing shaky heads out on the ledges. I've been looking at the zillion different plastics to use and and thought I'd try a Zoom Trick Worm.
My question: Will a Zoom Trick Worm stand up on a shaky head? (Will the tail float?) Or will it slowly fall down as the jig sits on the bottom?
Ok, let me reword my previous reply
1.- No
2.- Yes
Never mind what the guy that has been bass fishing for three and a half decades says, what the hell he knows about bass fishing ?
Thank you so far to all the replies, you guys are great and very helpful! I love this site!!!!!
We don't have a boat and rent 14-foot aluminum boats from the resort we stay at, so no trolling motor either. We have a simple depth-finder to find the ledge, then figure out how to drift across/along it based on the current and the wind. And luck into fish once in a while... :-)
I thought about Elaztech worms, but I already bought some screw-lock heads so I'm looking at worms that will work with these. Because we are drifting (and moving all the time) I won't be deadsticking them, the jig will constantly be moving so every time I lift it off the bottom the tail will stand back up, correct?
On 6/12/2014 at 2:59 AM, Steveo-1969 said:Thank you so far to all the replies, you guys are great and very helpful! I love this site!!!!!
We don't have a boat and rent 14-foot aluminum boats from the resort we stay at, so no trolling motor either. We have a simple depth-finder to find the ledge, then figure out how to drift across/along it based on the current and the wind. And luck into fish once in a while... :-)
I thought about Elaztech worms, but I already bought some screw-lock heads so I'm looking at worms that will work with these. Because we are drifting (and moving all the time) I won't be deadsticking them, the jig will constantly be moving so every time I lift it off the bottom the tail will stand back up, correct?
Yes it will stand back up. I'd recommend finding some shallow water and just dropping it in, so you can see the worm and have an idea of how it will look deeper in the water first.
Also if you get trick worms, it is easier with screw lock jig heads if you just bite or cut the tip of the worm off so you have a flat surface to screw the jig head into.
On 6/12/2014 at 3:02 AM, Mr. BattleArmor said:Yes it will stand back up. I'd recommend finding some shallow water and just dropping it in, so you can see the worm and have an idea of how it will look deeper in the water first.
Also if you get trick worms, it is easier with screw lock jig heads if you just bite or cut the tip of the worm off so you have a flat surface to screw the jig head into.
Great tips, thanks!
On 6/12/2014 at 2:50 AM, TJS209 said:That trick worm on a 3/8oz drop shot can be deadly out on the ledges.
I had thought about trying a drop shot this year. Even bought some hooks and weights and practiced tying it over and over until I could get it right (almost) every time. I have a hard time putting down my jig/worm rod, but wanted to add something different this year. Thanks for the drop shot suggestion, this could also come into play!
For guys fishing the ledges on Kentucky Lake, do you have any color suggestions? Past years we have generally stuck to green pumpkin, watermelon red and plum for the various plastics we use.
Tequila sunrise, junebug, red shad, plum, green pumpkin, and black/blue fleck have all been good producers on KY for me.
I only use a trick worm for Shaky head...have for years.
Won't change.
Been useing the spot remover head but tried SK newer model [can't remember the name of it]
It stays up.
Mike
Trick worms will not float and are not durable. I use sneed and go 2 baits shaky worms. My favorite is the go 2s. Get them online. They might seem a bit pricy, but they are super durable, 100% hand poured without hardener, and they float like a bobber.
I fish a shakyhead a lot and have never had a problem catching fish on my plain round shakyheads that aren't the "stand up" style and my worms that don't float. Why is it an issue if a worm floats on a shakyhead but never comes up when guys are talking about a T-rigged worm? Seems those worms still catch plenty of bass. A dead sticked Senko is deadly (while being painfully boring to fish) and they certainly don't float off the bottom by any stretch of the imagination.
If ya really wanna know what looks the best and has the best action just find a pool and practice with diffrent stuff and figure it out. Ive tried both salt and original zoom trick worm and they both fall over and they both stand up, there is a slight diffrence but its hardly noticable. Just be careful if its a soft sided pool don't wanna get a hole in it. lol. I also strongly agree with bluebasser.
Test your baits out in the tub.
On 6/12/2014 at 10:50 AM, Creekcrappie said:Trick worms will not float and are not durable. I use sneed and go 2 baits shaky worms. My favorite is the go 2s. Get them online. They might seem a bit pricy, but they are super durable, 100% hand poured without hardener, and they float like a bobber.
I just bought some GO2 worms just a few days ago, thanks for the report I'm looking forward to trying them. I like the Picasso Shaky football heads, stands the floating plastics up at an approximate 60 degree and being a footballhead it doesn't tip over easy .
I prefer NetBait T-Macs over Zoom Trick Worms. probably the exact same thing, I just like their colors better.
Truthfully it won't matter, I know the confidence game though, so good luck with you're gameplan. I would most assuredly throw a10" powerbait worm for ledges on Kentucky lake.
On 6/12/2014 at 3:06 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I fish a shakyhead a lot and have never had a problem catching fish on my plain round shakyheads that aren't the "stand up" style and my worms that don't float. Why is it an issue if a worm floats on a shakyhead but never comes up when guys are talking about a T-rigged worm? Seems those worms still catch plenty of bass. A dead sticked Senko is deadly (while being painfully boring to fish) and they certainly don't float off the bottom by any stretch of the imagination.
That´s exactly what I say but what the hell do I know about fishing ?
On 6/11/2014 at 10:47 PM, craww said:Not a big elaztec fan, but the zman shakeyhead worms are becoming a favorite. They standup better than anything Ive used and are very durable. Only downside is its darn near impossible to put them on a screw type keeper.
x2. They float and wiggle incredibly well, although if you're using a screw keeper it should be metal to help pierce the elaztec. Owner Shakey Ultraheads are the best design I've found. Heard a tip from a guy that if you heat the keeper real quick with a lighter the elaztech worm will slide right on. I plan on trying that this weekend.
Everybody can debate whether or not it makes a difference if it stands up or not. Both ways will catch fish, especially when they're biting worms. I think the allure of fishing a shaky head is presenting a soft plastic vertically, not laying limp on the bottom.
On 6/12/2014 at 4:22 AM, Lip said:Tequila sunrise, junebug, red shad, plum, green pumpkin, and black/blue fleck have all been good producers on KY for me.
Thanks for the color recommendations Mr. Lip 'em!
Thanks to everyone for your input to my question. Your answers have exceeded my expectations, what a helpful bunch of anglers on this site! I ended up ordering a few different colors of Zoom trick worms to use on 3/16 and 1/4 ounce Megastrike Shake2 Pro Model heads.
On 6/12/2014 at 3:06 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I fish a shakyhead a lot and have never had a problem catching fish on my plain round shakyheads that aren't the "stand up" style and my worms that don't float. Why is it an issue if a worm floats on a shakyhead but never comes up when guys are talking about a T-rigged worm? Seems those worms still catch plenty of bass. A dead sticked Senko is deadly (while being painfully boring to fish) and they certainly don't float off the bottom by any stretch of the imagination.
I agree completely, but that's exactly why I want a shakey head jig and worm to stand upright, to give a different look from the other baits.
On 6/13/2014 at 2:00 AM, conorsixtakc said:x2. They float and wiggle incredibly well, although if you're using a screw keeper it should be metal to help pierce the elaztec. Owner Shakey Ultraheads are the best design I've found. Heard a tip from a guy that if you heat the keeper real quick with a lighter the elaztech worm will slide right on. I plan on trying that this weekend.
Everybody can debate whether or not it makes a difference if it stands up or not. Both ways will catch fish, especially when they're biting worms. I think the allure of fishing a shaky head is presenting a soft plastic vertically, not laying limp on the bottom.
I concur with everything you said. It may be getting close to semantics, but if the plastic is just gonna lay on the bottom you may as well just use a TX rig, as it comes through cover better (especially wood). You also can use different hooks like EWG's, offsets, etc.
Will definetely try the lighter trick, Id read that a while ago and completely forgot it.