I keep hearing about Ugly Otters,Sweet Beavers,Beaver craws,and similar baits like these.
I have several Bags but I am reluctant to fish them cause I just dont understand what the big "Whoop" is with them. I know people pitch and flip them,but I have a problem that I cant do this. I am fishing from a 10' Jon Boat and am always seated while Im fishing.
So can someone enlighten me on why these beaver style baits are so effective and why they are so popular,cause I just dont get it.
Ive rigged em up and played with them in my 55 Gallon Aquarium,and didnt really see anything special as far as movement and appealing features.
I know this doesnt really compare to "real world on the water" results,so I need some coaxing to try these Beaver baits out. I know they make great Jig Trailers,and thats another thing I dont throw(yet)
They don't work...just send them to me and I'll glad paying all the shipping for them....
;D
QuoteI keep hearing about Ugly Otters,Sweet Beavers,Beaver craws,and similar baits like these.I have several Bags but I am reluctant to fish them cause I just dont understand what the big "Whoop" is with them. I know people pitch and flip them,but I have a problem that I cant do this. I am fishing from a 10" Jon Boat and am always seated while Im fishing.
So can someone enlighten me on why these beaver style baits are so effective and why they are so popular,cause I just dont get it.
Ive rigged em up and played with them in my 55 Gallon Aquarium,and didnt really see anything special as far as movement and appealing features.
I know this doesnt really compare to "real world on the water" results,so I need some coaxing to try these Beaver baits out. I know they make great Jig Trailers,and thats another thing I dont throw(yet)
I feel your pain on these baits, I have some the Berkley Beasts(small) and BPS Tiny Beavers. Fished with them, no results yet. I think your main problem is fishing from a ' 10" jon boat ' i think ten inches is a little small to fish from, unless you are fishing in your fish tank in that ten inch boat... ;D
I fish them pretty much the same as I would a Senko, and have had success.
The only difference is that I don't pause as much with the Beaver as I do the Senko. I figured that since they are crawdad (as we call them up here) imitators they should keep moving most of the time.
QuoteQuoteI keep hearing about Ugly Otters,Sweet Beavers,Beaver craws,and similar baits like these.I have several Bags but I am reluctant to fish them cause I just dont understand what the big "Whoop" is with them. I know people pitch and flip them,but I have a problem that I cant do this. I am fishing from a 10" Jon Boat and am always seated while Im fishing.
So can someone enlighten me on why these beaver style baits are so effective and why they are so popular,cause I just dont get it.
Ive rigged em up and played with them in my 55 Gallon Aquarium,and didnt really see anything special as far as movement and appealing features.
I know this doesnt really compare to "real world on the water" results,so I need some coaxing to try these Beaver baits out. I know they make great Jig Trailers,and thats another thing I dont throw(yet)
I feel your pain on these baits, I have some the Berkley Beasts(small) and BPS Tiny Beavers. Fished with them, no results yet. I think your main problem is fishing from a ' 10" jon boat ' i think ten inches is a little small to fish from, unless you are fishing in your fish tank in that ten inch boat... ;D
Ok you got me ;D...I fixed it .
The craze is from the fact that they work. My go to bait has been a finesse worm for years but I find myself reaching for a brush hog or a beaver much more often now. You just have to fish them enough to catch a few fish on them to build your confidence level in them. Nobody needs to talk you into fishing them, you said yourself that you have several bags so you apparently intended to fish them at some point. If you decide not to just send them to me and I'll make sure they get disposed of properly.
Personally I don't see whats so great about them either. They have no action whatsoever in the water. Theres a billion+1 better baits to pitch or flip with. The only success I have had with them is on a c-rig,but then again what doesn't work on a c-rig?
I t rig them and they have been deadly. One of the very best soft baits I have ever used.
I have always been a stick bait user(senko ect) and then I tried Baby Brush Hogs. I have a pretty good amount of confidence in them as well. So maybe I need to only take the Beavers with me one outing and force myself to fish them,in order to build confidence.
Right now,I look at those Beavers and I am just not feeling it though.
Just like the whole Rage Craze. I jumped on the bandwagon and bought up almost $100 worth of Rage Baits,I keel weighted them and T-rigged em and Only ended up with 2 fish which were pretty small(under 13 inches). While everyone else was catching HUGE fish with the Rage Baits,I was way low on the totem pole and thus have lost confidence in them as well.Now Big O if your reading this,Im not knocking your product. Its obvious you have an awesome product. I just happen to be one of those unlucky ones that cant catch anything on the Rage Baits...Suppose it happens...
Im actually starting to question the body of water I fish because I can only consistently catch dinks. Every so often I catch a fish worthy of bragging about in this lake,like the one in my Avatar.
If you cant catch fish with a beaver on a jig or t rig, there is something wrong with you.
QuoteI t rig them and they have been deadly. One of the very best soft baits I have ever used.
For a BIG presentation, the Reaction Innovations
Double Wide Beaver on a 3/4 oz football jig
is hard to beat!
However, for me, the new "big bait" trailer is
the Rage Tail Lobster. Dy-no-mite!
8-)
I use them as jig trailers all the time, they are great if you want your jig to fall slower. I will have to try them texas rigged. Sounds like I might be missing out! thanks!!
Jim
QuoteIf you cant catch fish with a beaver on a jig or t rig, there is something wrong with you.
I didn't want to say it The beaver and it's many knock offs are some of the most fish catching baits out there. There is no "magic" bait...........it's all time, place, and presentation, your missing the big picture.
I dunno, I have fished the sweet beavers alot, rigged everyway..ect..never had a lot of luck with them..
Yet, I can fish either a Huddelbug, or waveworm crawdudes, and catch fish. Maybe it's just the high pressure waters of so. cali... ;D
They have a very different action then anything else. They don't spiral like a tube and don't have a ton of move parts/commotion like a bigger flipping/pitching bait like a brush hog. They have a gliding motion that can really work when fish are in a less aggressive mode. I love em and use them for pitching into cover and as jig trailers. Try it you'll like it
I love fishing the Sweet Beaver. Have caught a lot of LM's on them last season. There are hundreds of plastic baits out there that will catch bass. Any one of them can and often do, excel under certain circumstances. However, the SB is a shape that has consistently produced for me and will now become a regular part of my arsenal. To me, it represents a crawfish type animal crawling about the bottom and creating a suble commotion which bass love.
I rig mine Tx style on a 4/0 EWG. I do one more thing though; I insert a Slug-Go internal weight in the center of the body. This makes it dig and push more of the bottom content as you move it along. And it keeps the weight in the center of the bait, thereby allowing a nice, horizontal fall, which I believe is an important part of it's effectiveness.
I use the Reaction Innovations Beaver Bait and for me they have been one of my most productive soft plastics the past few years. I find them effective both pitching into heavy cover and have also done well casting them using anywhere from 1/8 -1/4 oz. sinkers though at times I've done well using them weightless. This bait seems to catch a better grade of bass than most plastics that I've used.
I fish mine t-rigged with a 1/8 weight and it just catches fish. I mean I don't see why either it just does.
There really is no big deal with this type of bait. It's one more option to look at when attempting to trigger a strike. As far as fishing from a J-boat, I have several friends who do and just overhand cast B baits. They do very well. The bait, as said has a different profile, and fall than other baits. Give them a chance and soak em' where you would a jig or T-rigged tube and you might be surprized. Keep an open mind.
HAVE FUN !
I have had luck on the northland slurpie craw
Yum's beaver version
Bass Pro's flippin' craw.
I think if you drop one of those in the face of a largemouth, they'll bite it. They have good action.
I got the Zoom Super Hog for this year, wicked action.
QuoteThey have no action whatsoever in the water.
Yeah, right :
QuoteI have several Bags but I am reluctant to fish them cause I just dont understand what the big "Whoop" is with them. I know people pitch and flip them,but I have a problem that I cant do this. I am fishing from a 10' Jon Boat and am always seated while Im fishing.
I'm going to make a comment that requires a disclaimer. Don't do this without a life jacket or if the water is so cold that hypothermia will occur quickly. I fish out of a bassboat most of the time, but on my favorite pond I use a 10 foot jon boat. I stand most of the time while I am fishing in the jon boat. So, yes, you can pitch and flip from a jon boat. I have only been in the water once and that was because of a huge arachnid that decided to make it's presence know by scampering across my foot. See the thread below.
http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1150119537/0#0
As for beavers I have nothing to add. They have their time and place.
QuoteI keep hearing about Ugly Otters,Sweet Beavers,Beaver craws,and similar baits like these.I have several Bags but I am reluctant to fish them cause I just dont understand what the big "Whoop" is with them. I know people pitch and flip them,but I have a problem that I cant do this. I am fishing from a 10' Jon Boat and am always seated while Im fishing.
So can someone enlighten me on why these beaver style baits are so effective and why they are so popular,cause I just dont get it.
Ive rigged em up and played with them in my 55 Gallon Aquarium,and didnt really see anything special as far as movement and appealing features.
I know this doesnt really compare to "real world on the water" results,so I need some coaxing to try these Beaver baits out. I know they make great Jig Trailers,and thats another thing I dont throw(yet)
If you are afaird to use them why in the heck did you buy them ?
Texas rigged on a snelled 6/0 Octopus hook with a pegged tungsten weight, usually 3/4 to 1 oz. Pitch into holes in milfoil beds, fallen timber and beds. I pretty much just let them fall to the bottom. Give them a little wiggle, and on to the next hole. Often times you get bit on the initial fall, just like a jig. Use heavy gear and line for this. No reason you can't simply cast into holes while seated. For me, its definitely a close quarters bait/technique.
Give the Strike King rodent's a try..
QuoteI keep hearing about Ugly Otters,Sweet Beavers,Beaver craws,and similar baits like these.I have several Bags but I am reluctant to fish them cause I just dont understand what the big "Whoop" is with them. I know people pitch and flip them,but I have a problem that I cant do this. I am fishing from a 10' Jon Boat and am always seated while Im fishing.
So can someone enlighten me on why these beaver style baits are so effective and why they are so popular,cause I just dont get it.
Ive rigged em up and played with them in my 55 Gallon Aquarium,and didnt really see anything special as far as movement and appealing features.
I know this doesnt really compare to "real world on the water" results,so I need some coaxing to try these Beaver baits out. I know they make great Jig Trailers,and thats another thing I dont throw(yet)
DO they work? yeah sure,,Special? nope,just another bait that catches fish,,but theres tons of those.
QuoteQuoteI keep hearing about Ugly Otters,Sweet Beavers,Beaver craws,and similar baits like these.I have several Bags but I am reluctant to fish them cause I just dont understand what the big "Whoop" is with them. I know people pitch and flip them,but I have a problem that I cant do this. I am fishing from a 10' Jon Boat and am always seated while Im fishing.
So can someone enlighten me on why these beaver style baits are so effective and why they are so popular,cause I just dont get it.
Ive rigged em up and played with them in my 55 Gallon Aquarium,and didnt really see anything special as far as movement and appealing features.
I know this doesnt really compare to "real world on the water" results,so I need some coaxing to try these Beaver baits out. I know they make great Jig Trailers,and thats another thing I dont throw(yet)
If you are afaird to use them why in the heck did you buy them ?
I didnt exactly intentionally buy them. I scour Ebay always looking for package deals on assorted baits. I found a seller that was selling some stickbaits and some Zoom Worms and along with that deal came a few bags of Beaver style baits. Guess he didnt know what to do with them either
So I paid for what I really wanted and got the Beaver style baits as Extras.I never thought to ask the seller to leave out the beaver style baits cause I dont use em.I buy it all as one package deal,whether it contains a bait I normally dont use or not.
I have bought plenty of "lots" of baits and I normally take what I like and stash the rest,or I put the "non used" baits in a different box to prep for resale once the box gets full.
Figure since I have the Beavers and have heard so many good things about them,I might as well ask those folks here that actually have first hand experience using them,what he deal is with them,thats all.
QuoteQuoteThey have no action whatsoever in the water.Yeah, right :
;D(I figured I'd hear it sooner or later)Really though,I don't see it.It just falls and lays there like a dead chunk of plastic to me. Personally I am into baits that move a lot and or put of some sort of vibrations since I fish a lot of stained or dirty water.
I hate fat Ikas for the same reasons.After hearing over and over about how great that thing is supposed to be. I can't catch a cold with those things. Must be something wrong with me again, right.
I'm sure theres a whole lot of stuff I use that kills em for me but others don't like as well.
I love Beaver baits. I use the YUM version but I think they all work about the same. I use them mostly in the early spring when water temp. are low and you want a bait that doesn't have as much action. T-rig it with a 1/4 oz wieght and toss it out near cover or rock structrure. SLOWLY bouce it back to the boat.
As The water warms up I have less luck with it and switch to a brush hog that has lots more action, But if the bass get real lockjaw I will swithc back.
hope this helps. 8-)
Quote;D(I figured I'd hear it sooner or later)Really though,I don't see it.It just falls and lays there like a dead chunk of plastic to me.
1.- Split the tail
2.- Rig it weedless "backwards" ( insert the hook in between the flippers )
3.- Add water and fish, you 're ready to go.
It 's one of the few baits that sink away from you.
QuoteQuote;D(I figured I'd hear it sooner or later)Really though,I don't see it.It just falls and lays there like a dead chunk of plastic to me.
1.- Split the tail
2.- Rig it weedless "backwards" ( insert the hook in between the flippers )
3.- Add water and fish, you 're ready to go.
It 's one of the few baits that sink away from you.
So Are you talking about fishing this bait in this manner Weightless? How would you add weight to this presentation,I suppose you would use a nail weight in the tail like they did in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-HjgIP9obQ
get some of the original sweet beavers by reaction innovations and give them a try in your lake. i'm sure you will then realize what all of the fuss is about. fish them t-rigged. or as a jig trailer. separate the pinchers. fish them slow with an occasional pop. my favorite colors are oxblood and california 420. awesome baits.
ha.
i love the beavers and between the other thread about the scrounger and this thread where raul suggested rigging it "fakey"....i now have two new presentations for them in less than 2 minutes.
i love this site. 8-)
QuoteSo Are you talking about fishing this bait in this manner Weightless? How would you add weight to this presentation,I suppose you would use a nail weight in the tail like they did in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-HjgIP9obQ
Yup, if I want/need to add weight that 's the way I would do it, normally I don 't use any weight.
Have you ever tried rigging a Chigger Craw like that?
I'm looking forward to using beavers and chigger craws this year.