I'm getting some Gambler Bacon Rind creatures in the mail, I also got some 3/16oz bullet weight to along with them. I'm now thinking that may be to light to throw on 50lb braid (12lb mono equivalent). Is my worst nightmare about to become true??
Thanks!
Should work OK.
Don't throw into wind with baitcaster.
You can always go up in weight by adding a second one if you do not have any heavier weights.
Why braid?
How will you be fishing these baits?
QuoteShould work OK.Don't throw into wind with baitcaster.
You can always go up in weight by adding a second one if you do not have any heavier weights.
Why braid?
How will you be fishing these baits?
Why braid?
It's what I got! I don't have the accommodation of having multiple casters, and spinning reels. I'm hope fully getting one for X-mas. I'm be putting 14lb P-line or fire line on it. BTW it's hopefully a BPS extreme combo! ;D
I could also add a split shot between the worm and the weight, and it could make a bit of a "clack", but not as much as a beed would!
And I thought I was the only one with one pole. I hae an Abu baitcaster that is my only rig, so I've had to learn to throw some light weight stuff with it to make up. I think between the weight,hook, and lure you should be fine
It really depends on the reel if all other things are equal. Some can and other can't. For example, a Curado or can easily handle that. My trion is a bit finicky and needs more fine tuning.
Also, I wouldn't worry. When you use that 3/16 oz weight, once you put on the hook and lure, you are probably closer 3/8 oz in weight anyway and at that weight, any bc reel worth its salt, should easily handle. We tend to forget to factor in the weight of the hook and lure.
Re: 3/16oz to light for bait casting?
No.
QuoteRe: 3/16oz to light for bait casting?No.
Raul, please stop beating around the bush
Cant answer the question much better than that LOL
I throw 1/8oz and 3/16oz spinnerbaits on my baitcasters.
The bullet weight may only be 3/16ths, but the bait itself is also going to add plenty of heft. You should have zero problems casting this.
I always throw the lightest bullet weight I can get away with. It gives the bait a more natural look on the fall and retrieve.
I can cast most creature baits with no weight at all only a hook.
Allen
Too light for me. I prefer 1/2 oz and up,
but I never throw less than 3/8 oz on a
baitcaster.
8-)
QuoteThe bullet weight may only be 3/16ths, but the bait itself is also going to add plenty of heft. You should have zero problems casting this.I always throw the lightest bullet weight I can get away with. It gives the bait a more natural look on the fall and retrieve.
That's why I got the lighter weight, great minds think alike I suppose!
QuoteThe bullet weight may only be 3/16ths, but the bait itself is also going to add plenty of heft. You should have zero problems casting this.I always throw the lightest bullet weight I can get away with. It gives the bait a more natural look on the fall and retrieve.
That about covers it. You can cast a creature bait, worm, etc without any weight on a baitcaster due to the weight of the lure itself.
3/16 is ALMOST quarter ounce, which is really a great weight for baitcasters.
Quote3/16 is ALMOST quarter ounce, which is really a great weight for baitcasters.
And with the bait and hook it will probable be about that or more!
I throw 1/8oz jigheads with 3" grubs on a baitcaster, then again, I have 20lb braid on the rig I use for that. You might have problems though IF your bait doesnt load the rod. Otherwise you should be fine
This has more to do with the rod used than the whether its a spinning reel or a baitcaster. Lighter, smaller diameter line is a must too. I voted "too light", because its not "just perfect" on any BC rig I have, though that weight is fine on my AC70MM. With a lighter power rod and a faster tip, you can throw even lighter.
I fish speed worms with 1/16oz screw-ins almost exclusively, and do so with BCs
Maybe I misunderstood the question. Is it 3/16 total weight? Or is it a 3/16 jig? It makes a big difference in some cases. I throw a 3/32 wacky jig, but the weight of the plastic and the jig are plenty of mass for a BC.
The weight of the bullet weight + Bait + Hook = A lot more than 3/16 oz. you should be just fine.
I cast zoom trick worms weightless with a 3/0 ewg on a mh St.Croix casting rod with 15 pound cxx and a daiwa zillion. Tt goes about as far as I can cast it on a medium light spinning real with 8 pound cxx and a diawa spinning real don't remember the model. Thats probably lighter than what you are planning to throw.
I do not understand where people get this idea a bait casting reel can not throw light lures; if setup properly with the correct rod you can cast just about any lure you want.
I do not own a spinning reel and have absolutely no problem throw 1/8 ounce beetle spins, weightless wacky rigs, ECT. with my bait casting reels.
Secondly a lighter weight is not always to ideal way to go when fishing plastic; you have to match the Rate of Fall the bass are interested in; during a majority of the year a faster Rate of Fall is what triggers strikes.
QuoteI do not understand where people get this idea a bait casting reel can not throw light lures; if setup properly with the correct rod you can cast just about any lure you want.I do not own a spinning reel and have absolutely no problem throw 1/8 ounce beetle spins, weightless wacky rigs, ECT. with my bait casting reels.
Secondly a lighter weight is not always to ideal way to go when fishing plastic; you have to match the Rate of Fall the bass are interested in; during a majority of the year a faster Rate of Fall is what triggers strikes.
Well i do have some 1/2 for big 10" worms, but don't you think that that's a bit over kill for what I want to throw?
QuoteThe weight of the bullet weight + Bait + Hook = A lot more than 3/16 oz. you should be just fine.
I agree it's all good
Explain over kill?
Davy Hite won the 1999 Bass Mater Classic on the Louisiana Delta throwing the Gambler Bacon Rind with a 1/2 oz weight. The most popular size bullet weight for most applications is 3/8 oz; the most popular size jig is 3/8.
QuoteWell i do have some 1/2 for big 10" worms, but don't you think that that's a bit over kill for what I want to throw?
Dude, sinker weight is a tool :, what you are going to use dpends on what you want the bait to do and if such is the better suited for the situation, place and location, where you got the idea that 1/2 oz sinkers are only for the big baits ?
QuoteExplain over kill?
Kiddo can 't lift his rod.
QuoteThe bullet weight may only be 3/16ths, but the bait itself is also going to add plenty of heft. You should have zero problems casting this.I always throw the lightest bullet weight I can get away with. It gives the bait a more natural look on the fall and retrieve.
Amen.
QuoteI cast zoom trick worms weightless with a 3/0 ewg on a mh St.Croix casting rod with 15 pound cxx and a daiwa zillion. Tt goes about as far as I can cast it on a medium light spinning real with 8 pound cxx and a diawa spinning real don't remember the model. Thats probably lighter than what you are planning to throw.
May I ask what rod you used for lighter lure? What is its lure weight range marked on the rod?
QuoteQuoteI cast zoom trick worms weightless with a 3/0 ewg on a mh St.Croix casting rod with 15 pound cxx and a daiwa zillion. Tt goes about as far as I can cast it on a medium light spinning real with 8 pound cxx and a diawa spinning real don't remember the model. Thats probably lighter than what you are planning to throw.May I ask what rod you used for lighter lure? What is its lure weight range marked on the rod?
Quantum Bill dance signature series rod 6'6". It says the max wight is 1/4, but I have cast weightless 6" tiki sticks with a 2/0 Gamakatsu hook.
QuoteI can cast most creature baits with no weight at all only a hook.Allen
exactly
Big O
you should be ok. just go out in the yard before you go out and make a few practice casts to make sure.
QuoteQuantum Bill dance signature series rod 6'6". It says the max wight is 1/4, but I have cast weightless 6" tiki sticks with a 2/0 Gamakatsu hook.
Dude, a 6" tiki stick is by far what you can consider a "light" bait, it weights well over 1/4 oz.
QuoteQuoteWell i do have some 1/2 for big 10" worms, but don't you think that that's a bit over kill for what I want to throw?
Dude, sinker weight is a tool :, what you are going to use dpends on what you want the bait to do and if such is the better suited for the situation, place and location, where you got the idea that 1/2 oz sinkers are only for the big baits ?
I just have better luck that way, it's not just "what I think" it's what I have had success with! I have tried using light and heavy weights with smaller and bigger worms, but I get bigger bites when I use a smaller weight with smaller bait and bigger weights with bigger baits, 1/2 is just what they seem to like with 10" worms.
QuoteI just have better luck that way, it's not just "what I think" it's what I have had success with! I have tried using light and heavy weights with smaller and bigger worms, but I get bigger bites when I use a smaller weight with smaller bait and bigger weights with bigger baits, 1/2 is just what they seem to like with 10" worms.
Much to learn you still have.
QuoteQuoteI just have better luck that way, it's not just "what I think" it's what I have had success with! I have tried using light and heavy weights with smaller and bigger worms, but I get bigger bites when I use a smaller weight with smaller bait and bigger weights with bigger baits, 1/2 is just what they seem to like with 10" worms.
Much to learn you still have.
Yes great Jedi master!
I frequently go as light as 1/8oz so as long as you have your reels adjusted properly you should be fine with 3/16 oz. lures.
QuoteQuoteI cast zoom trick worms weightless with a 3/0 ewg on a mh St.Croix casting rod with 15 pound cxx and a daiwa zillion. Tt goes about as far as I can cast it on a medium light spinning real with 8 pound cxx and a diawa spinning real don't remember the model. Thats probably lighter than what you are planning to throw.May I ask what rod you used for lighter lure? What is its lure weight range marked on the rod?
I can cast equally good with my mh avid and my mh legend elite both by St.Croix. Also both 7 foot. I don't know off the top of my head the low end they are rated for but I know the high end is 1 ounce. Think the daiwa zillion has more to do with it than anything.
i was thowing a weightless fluke on my diawa 100h on a mh 6.6' shimano rod all day sunday and was casting just fine. also.... threw a 3/16 weighted paddletail (always)for the rest of the day on my quantum kvd and its as natural as breathing.
you can do it!!!!!