Your Favorite Knot For When Your Casting Hard Baits? 2024
Pat3697 reply :
Whats Your favorite knot for when casting hard baits..?Lost A Few lures this weekend going again Saturday and I do not want a repeat of that . Either
bait was to much for the line or my knots weren't up to par...
kingkong85 reply :
Palomar knot for everything. For mono and fluorocarbon line I always moisten the line before tightening the knot.
tomustang reply :
Improved clinch for mono/copoly/fluro. Palomar for braid.
Jrob78 reply :
I use a palomar most of the time. I like the San Diego Jam knot with fluoro but I waste too much line tying it.
LMB ANGLER reply :
the old faithful Palomar knot
Missourifishin reply :
Usually the improved clinch knot for me. Never had a problems with it.
rippin-lips reply :
Palomar for everything unless it's a flipping hook.
SirSnookalot reply :
Based on the replies so far it looks like it really doesn't make a difference as long as it works. I always use leaders and connect most of my lures with a loopknot. Jigs and jig heads I use an ordinary clinch, braid I use an improved clinch, for my rarely used line to leader connection it's an alberto knot. I do not use any other knots.
Bluebasser86 reply :
San Diego Jam with fluoro, Palomar for everything else.
Sam reply :
On 11/4/2013 at 12:09 PM, kingkong85 said:Palomar knot for everything. For mono and fluorocarbon line I always moisten the line before tightening the knot.
Always moisten the line when tying all knots.
I tie my line to a snap as it is easier to change crankbaits when using a snap.
Sam reply :
Some other suggestions.
1. Always run about four or five feet of line between your thumb nail and forefinger from your rod tip down to your bait to feel for any knicks, cuts, abrasions, etc. Cut out any damaged line and retie. Do this after ten casts or if you catch one or two in structure where the line can be damaged.
2. Leave a little over a 1/4 inch tag line on your knots.
3. Retie all knots after catching two or three bass.
4. Double check your line after tying a knot and if the main line is wavy cut it out and start over. You have just burned your line. Use more liquid on the next knots to avoid burning your line.
5. Never put pressure on your line when removing a backlash. You can cut the line and never know about it until you throw your favorite lure into the wild blue yonder. Take you time removing backlashes.
6. Always take one additional reel ready to go. One baitcaster and one spinning reel. Change out if you get a backlash or too much line twist.
Just some suggestions from over the years to help you avoid line and knot problems.
bassasaurus reply :
palomar!
hookset on 3 reply :
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San Diego Jammin' Man! For all hard baits.
Tip- when cinching, start by pulling the tag end to bring the loops up snug with each other. Then let go of tag end while drawing the knot up fairly tight to the lure eye or split ring. I then make micro adjustments to get the knot tight by pulling on both the tag end and lure tie alternately.
Got1Fishing reply :
I use the improved clinch for everything. If you look at the results on Tackle Tour's Fc shootout, I believe they said the improved clinch held up better than the palomer knot, this is for .011 to .010 diameter. I feel like when i use braid the I have to use the palomer knot, because with 832 I have had the knot slip using the improved clinch knot.
AK-Jax86 reply :
Palomar knot for everything never fails me
nwmike reply :
miller knot for fluro palomar mono and double palomar for braid..
Felix77 reply :
Trilele knot with Fluorocarbon and Mono
Palomar with Braid.
WRB reply :
As mentioned earlier a high quality snap, not a snap swivel, is good for vibrating lures like crankbaits, lets the lure wiggle without knot wear. If you like the Palomar knot it's easier to tie on a hook or snap, then larger size lures.
The Millers fishing knot is a complex knot to tie on the water and takes lots of practice. Knot test show the Miller knot slightly stronger than a standard San Deigo jam knot. The SD jam knot is easy to tie, the double SD jam knot, 2 wraps through the hook eye is stronger than the Miller knot. The Palomar knot can slip on both FC and braid, the double Palomar resolves that problem; 2 overhand wraps, like the surgeon knot, in lieu of the standard single wrap, improves the Palomar knot.
Whatever knot you choose, wet it and clinch it down slowly and evenly. There isn't any reason to have more than an 1/8" of tag end left after trimming a knot. If your knot slips when tightening it, retie! Look at the finished knot for any flattened line next to the knot, if you see it, retie!
Tom
J Francho reply :
Palomar, Uni, and Improved Clinch all work well for me.
ww2farmer reply :
Trilene knot for fluorocarbon to lure, Palomar from braid to lure, Alberto from braid to leader. Those are the only three knots I know and use.
jignfule reply :
Improve clinch for f/c and palomar for every thing else.
iabass8 reply :
fluoro and mono-san diego jam
braid-palomar
wnybassman reply :
Improved clinch for all baits and all lines, 6 wraps. Never had a problem with braid slipping.
SirSnookalot reply :
Surprised to see the lack of use with the loopknot for hard lure use, especially when using a leader. With the more seasoned fishermen and guides I've been with that's pretty much what me and them use.
jly reply :
Palomar for 90% of my applications. for flipping the snell with 7 wraps and 1/4 inch of tag.
Skeeterboy1 reply :
I like using a knot called the "quick knot". I like using this knot because it's very easy to tie and is a very strong knot. The only time I don't use it is when I'm punching and then I use a snell knot.
Jolly Green reply :
On 11/4/2013 at 12:03 PM, Pat3697 said:Whats Your favorite knot for when casting hard baits..?Lost A Few lures this weekend going again Saturday and I do not want a repeat of that . Either
bait was to much for the line or my knots weren't up to par...
How did you lose them? To fish? To snags? On the cast? As has been stated most knots will work fine if well-tied, but if you're banging a heavy hard bait through heavy cover on 2lb. test...
Mostly palomar and pitzen knot for me. Except...
On 11/9/2013 at 2:15 PM, SirSnookalot said:Surprised to see the lack of use with the loopknot for hard lure use, especially when using a leader. With the more seasoned fishermen and guides I've been with that's pretty much what me and them use.
... I do use a loopknot for poppers and chuggers to give them a little more loosey-goosey action without adding a split ring. I also use one on this little sinking hard bait, I want to say it's a Rebel Raider, which comes with a split ring that I removed to lighten it up as much as possible. Crappie love it.
SirSnookalot reply :
On 11/11/2013 at 5:43 AM, Jolly Green said:How did you lose them? To fish? To snags? On the cast? As has been stated most knots will work fine if well-tied, but if you're banging a heavy hard bait through heavy cover on 2lb. test...
Mostly palomar and pitzen knot for me. Except...
... I do use a loopknot for poppers and chuggers to give them a little more loosey-goosey action without adding a split ring. I also use one on this little sinking hard bait, I want to say it's a Rebel Raider, which comes with a split ring that I removed to lighten it up as much as possible. Crappie love it.
A split ring common to a lure in the 1/4 ounce range probably weighs less than 2 grains, as there are 109 grains in a quarter ounce I do not believe that split ring would have much of an affect, if any. But if comfortable in removing it, then by all means do it.
I personally would not use a heavier hard lure with 2 lb line, regardless of knot.
stratoliner92 reply :
Trilene-Fluoro & Mono
Braid-Triple loop
Bankbeater reply :
Improved clinch knot for crankbaits, and palomar knot for everything else.
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