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Close bail manually? 2024


fishing user avatarbillmac reply : 

Do you spinning tackle aficionados close the bail manually before you start to reel, or do you close it by reeling?  The latter is one of the things I hate about spinning reels. 


fishing user avatarDerek1 reply : 

I close it by hand cause someone told me long ago it helps with line twist.  I honestly don’t know if it’s true or not, but I’ve been doing it ever since. 


fishing user avatarTBAG reply : 
  On 5/5/2019 at 8:40 PM, Derek1 said:

I close it by hand cause someone told me long ago it helps with line twist.  I honestly don’t know if it’s true or not, but I’ve been doing it ever since. 

Same here, growing up learning to fish on a spinning reel I always just started reeling but now I always close it by hand when I fish a spinning reel. 


fishing user avatarNHBull reply : 

Flip by hand and run the hand up a couple inches to ensure the line is taunt on the spool.  I had a good father????


fishing user avatarMr Swim Jig reply : 

Close by hand...


fishing user avatarPersicoTrotaVA reply : 

I don’t like the auto close on most spinning reels so I have always done it by hand. 


fishing user avatarChoporoz reply : 

I grew up with Mitchell 300's and didn't know any better until reading here about manual closing a few years ago.   After a long time retraining myself, its mostly second nature.  It kind of upset me because it was such an integral design element to spinning reels. 

Manually flipping the bail doesn't reduce twist.  But it does reduce likelihood of introducing loops on your spool (from twisted line)....which is where the reel trouble starts. 


fishing user avatarMN Fisher reply : 

I always flipped the bail back manually...except on my old Pflueger 640 - look at pic below

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See the notch in the upper right of the bail holder? See the little piece on the left side of the bail holder? That piece is a lever that locks the bail open, you HAD to turn the handle as it was an internal mechanism that lifted that lever out of the notch to let the bail close.


fishing user avatarBluebasser86 reply : 

I flip it by hand, it's easier on the reel if nothing else. 


fishing user avatarflyfisher reply : 

always do because most times i am feathering the line as it comes off the spool and it is a natural thing for me now since i have been doing it for pretty much ever.  


fishing user avataroffsidewing reply : 

The trigger fire spinning reels you can close by reeling.  All others close by hand.


fishing user avatarBoomstick reply : 

There's three potential reasons to close it by hand:

 

  1. On some reels, I find you have to reel pretty hard tot get the bail to auto close, so it's much easier and quicker to just close it by hand.
  2. I've been told that the auto-close feature puts strain on the reel and may eventually shorten the life of the reel. I think there's at least some truth to this although how much I'm not sure.
  3. I've also been told that closing it by hand helps prevent line twist, but I haven't really noticed an issue not closing it by hand, so I think this might be false.

fishing user avatarOnthePotomac reply : 

When I retired and got into bass fishing 19 years ago, our daughter gifted me with a day on the Potomac with a popular river guide and all I had was two spinning outfits at the time.  After about two casts he turned to me and said, "take my advice and close the bail by hand and it will save you problems down the road".  He didn't expound on why, but I figured he knows a lot more than I so I have always done it.


fishing user avatarike8120 reply : 

I close it by hand whenever I can remember, sucks to get old LOL


fishing user avatarwaymont reply : 

You should alway close by hand.

-Helps prevent line twist

-It's less rough on your reel. Spinning the handle puts undue pressure on the gears, rotor, and bail

 by continually banging closed.

-It also helps preventing getting loops in you line.


fishing user avatarGreenPig reply : 
  On 5/5/2019 at 11:40 PM, flyfisher said:

always do because most times i am feathering the line as it comes off the spool and it is a natural thing for me now since i have been doing it for pretty much ever.  

X2 my other hands already there


fishing user avatarLog Catcher reply : 

I close mine by hand and pull the line tight against the reel and start reeling. When I first started using a spinning reel I got so frustrated with line twist problems I quit using them for a long time. I finally talked to a guy in our local tackle shop about it. He told me about the differences the types of line can make. He also said to close the bail by hand and use a barrel swivel and a leader to help stop line twist. Problems have been very rare since I started doing these things.


fishing user avatarLionHeart reply : 

I closed mine by turning the handle for years with no problem.  I now close mine by hand just to be on the safe side.  It has become second nature. 

 

Does closing the bale by turning the handle damage anything?  Probably not.  If so, I'd like to see verified proof instead of 'well I heard this from...'


fishing user avatarMIbassyaker reply : 
  On 5/5/2019 at 9:00 PM, NHBull said:

Flip by hand and run the hand up a couple inches to ensure the line is taunt on the spool.

Yup.

  On 5/5/2019 at 11:06 PM, Choporoz said:

Manually flipping the bail doesn't reduce twist.  But it does reduce likelihood of introducing loops on your spool (from twisted line)....which is where the reel trouble starts. 

Yup.

  On 5/5/2019 at 11:40 PM, flyfisher said:

always do because most times i am feathering the line as it comes off the spool and it is a natural thing for me now since i have been doing it for pretty much ever.  

Yup.

 

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fishing user avatarVilas15 reply : 

Used to crank until it closed, now I do it manually and avoid knots on the spool.


fishing user avataronenutinthewater reply : 

Hand. I read it on the internet so it must be better! Sometimes i hate the internet.

No reason really just second nature.


fishing user avatarNYWayfarer reply : 

Used to close the bail by turning the handle. I have retrained myself to close it by hand.

 

I can imagine that it saves wear and tear on the bail spring. 


fishing user avatarHammer 4 reply : 

Once my bait hits the water, my index finger is on the line, when the bait settles on the bottom, or where ever I want it, then I close the bail by hand. I stay in contact with the line on the fall, as a bass may grab it then..


fishing user avatarTOXIC reply : 

Always, always, always by hand.  There's a few reasons many of which have been mentioned.  My main reasons are because when I cast I am controlling the cast with my free hand for accuracy distance wise.  I am also stopping over run after my bait hits the water but I still want it to fall on a free line but not with 5-10 extra loops of line feeding out.  Same thing if it is windy.  In all of these situations, my hand is right there so it's easy to flip the bail closed manually. I am a firm believer it saves some wear and tear on your reel.   


fishing user avatarTroy85 reply : 

Always close by hand.


fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 

I close the bail and seat the line on the roller by hand every time.  It's automatic.


fishing user avatarSiebert Outdoors reply : 
  On 5/6/2019 at 9:52 PM, J Francho said:

I close the bail and seat the line on the roller by hand every time.  It's automatic.

Same here. 


fishing user avatarSteveo-1969 reply : 
  On 5/6/2019 at 9:52 PM, J Francho said:

I close the bail and seat the line on the roller by hand every time.  It's automatic.

Ditto. The other thing I do is I stick my index finger out and let the line bounce off of it for the first couple turns of the reel handle. This way there is tension on the line when it starts spooling after the cast. Any potential loops on the spool are eliminated.


fishing user avatarnewyorktoiowa57 reply : 

Close by hand for me.  It helps with line twist and is better for the reel. 


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 

Early spinning reels you couldn't close the bail by hand. Since the Daiwa TD SS spinning reels all mfr's make them manual or reeling to close the bail. The problem with reeling to close the bail can cause loops in the line so bass anglers manually close bails.

Tom




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