Shimano Users Questions On Size 50 Reels? 2024
G_money reply :
Do the size 50 reels like the Chronarch 50E or the older Curado 50E's really cast light baits further than the 200 size? I mentioned the older Curodo's b/c the Chronarch's are new and many haven't tried them.
It makes sense with the smaller spool that they would, but my fishing buddy had a Curado 50e and it didn't seem to cast further than my 200e that's why I was asking....I'm either going to purchase a Chronarch 51e or another 200e for finesse baitcasting...I would really like to get a 100 size reel, but the only one I think Shimano has is the Core 100 magnesium and I don't want a reel that won't fish saltwater, and it's a little more than I want to spend.
Anybody have experience with these...also are the smaller reels as tough as the larger reels? I noticed they have a different set up around the line gude in the front of the reel.
Thanks guys,
Sam
tomustang reply :
Well I have never tried the same size line on the 50 and 200, when you tried the two did they have the same line on?
roadwarrior reply :
No.
I like the smaller reels just because they feel better and look cooler!
As far as performance goes, I don't notice any difference.
pondassasin reply :
I have a Core 50 and I think it casts lures around the 1/8 Oz range a little better than a 200 will, but a lot of it depends on the rod you are using. If it won't load up then it doesn't matter what reel you're using. I love that little reel though. I had a Curado 50 and liked it but I just wish it came in a 7.0:1 ratio. Once you make a 50-60 yard cast with a smaller reel your ipt starts to suffer.
G_money reply :
On 3/31/2012 at 6:26 PM, roadwarrior said:No.
I like the smaller reels just because they feel better and look cooler!
As far as performance goes, I don't notice any difference.
Thanks RW...I was wondering...because i noticed the same thing....I just like the feel of the 200 size Shimanos in my hand...they others are too narrow.
I do really like the 100 sizes though. Like the old Chronarch 100D...don't know why they don't offer more that size.
And there's no way in hell I'm buying a Quantum Tour...like the size and feel but hate the quality, longevity, and quantum doesn't stand behind their stuff like Shimano does.
Hooligan reply :
On 3/31/2012 at 1:41 PM, flash said:Do the size 50 reels like the Chronarch 50E or the older Curado 50E's really cast light baits further than the 200 size? I mentioned the older Curodo's b/c the Chronarch's are new and many haven't tried them.
The part about the Chronarch being new doesn't matter. They're the same reel.
Do they cast lighter baits further? No.
johnnytoxin reply :
I've got a curado 50e and a 200e and in my experience the 50e casts lighter baits better but as someone said above you have to match it with the right rod. Mine is on a loomis glx medium fast. I use it for weightless plastics mostly.
Bluebasser86 reply :
I don't think my 50 casts any further but it fits on a smaller rod and holds less of the lighter line I fish on it so it's a little better sized for what I'm doing with it.
G_money reply :
On 4/1/2012 at 12:35 AM, Hooligan said:The part about the Chronarch being new doesn't matter. They're the same reel.
Do they cast lighter baits further? No.
Ah this again...I bet you haven't fished the Chronarch...make that guarantee that or you wouldn't make that statement. Much more refined and smoother. Outperforms my supertuned Curoado E's that have ceramic bearings.
Not going to argue...buy one fish it then come back and make the same statement...I can guarantee you won't.
NorcalBassin reply :
I had a 200e7 Curado on my NRX 893 and recently replaced it with a Chronarch 50e. In all honesty if feels as though it casts further than the Curado that was on it, but this could certainly just be between my ears.
d3bf48 reply :
I started with using a citica 200e and then got a chronarch 50e and I thought the 50e casted lighter lures much better.
G_money reply :
On 4/1/2012 at 5:54 AM, NorcalBassin said:I had a 200e7 Curado on my NRX 893 and recently replaced it with a Chronarch 50e. In all honesty if feels as though it casts further than the Curado that was on it, but this could certainly just be between my ears.
Cool pic...I've got a golden too.
No your experience is typical and what I've heard from every Chronarch E user and my own personal experience with my 2 chronarch 200 E's....they cast much much further than the curado, and are a lot less geary, they just have that buttery feel.
Every time I hear someone say they are the same reel, and I mean every single time the person saying this hasn't used the new Chronarch's....Shimano really nailed it with this reel and for $200 it's a steal.
Gone_Phishin reply :
I'd be curious as to what the two spools weigh.
Hooligan reply :
On 4/1/2012 at 5:51 AM, flash said:Ah this again...I bet you haven't fished the Chronarch...make that guarantee that or you wouldn't make that statement. Much more refined and smoother. Outperforms my supertuned Curoado E's that have ceramic bearings.
Not going to argue...buy one fish it then come back and make the same statement...I can guarantee you won't.
You're wrong. I have some 14 of them in 51 and 201. You couldn't be any more wrong than you are...
tomustang reply :
On 3/31/2012 at 10:05 PM, flash said:Thanks RW...I was wondering...because i noticed the same thing....I just like the feel of the 200 size Shimanos in my hand...they others are too narrow.
I do really like the 100 sizes though. Like the old Chronarch 100D...don't know why they don't offer more that size.
And there's no way in hell I'm buying a Quantum Tour...like the size and feel but hate the quality, longevity, and quantum doesn't stand behind their stuff like Shimano does.
Funny you mention it, I was just at cabelas and they still had a 100D in the display case next to the newer shimano linup
Alpster reply :
I have 5 50Mgs, but my longest casting reel is a Calcutta 200DC.
Ronnie
Goose52 reply :
On 4/1/2012 at 6:54 AM, Gone_Phishin said:I'd be curious as to what the two spools weigh.
My only Curado 200E has line on it so I can't weigh the bare spool - perhaps someone out there can get the weight. I do have a NIB Curado 50E on-hand and the spool (assembly) on it weighs 11.27 grams.
I think the 50E has a theoretical advantage over the 200E in tossing lighter baits - the 50E spool is lighter, it also holds less line than the 200E so overall spool weight is lighter and start-up will be easier. Assuming the rod will load, my guess it that the 50E could toss a bait from 1/16 to maybe 1/8oz lighter than the lightest bait tossed by the 200E. Theoretically... 
BASSclary reply :
Goose has the right idea. With everything constant, the 50E will outperform the 200E with lighter lures. Just the nature of having a lighter spool with less line. However, the 200E has an advantage with heavier lures, because of the added mass the spool will spin longer, thus letting your heavier bait fly through the air without having to "pull" line off the spool.
I would say as a general rule, if it wieghs a 1/4 ounce total weight or more, 200E will be better. less than that I would opt for the 50E
G_money reply :
On 4/1/2012 at 8:23 AM, Tom D. said:Funny you mention it, I was just at cabelas and they still had a 100D in the display case next to the newer shimano linup
No way! That is awesome! How much? I fish lefties...was is a lefty...if so you need to buy it for me.
tomustang reply :
On 4/1/2012 at 11:49 AM, flash said:No way! That is awesome! How much? I fish lefties...was is a lefty...if so you need to buy it for me.
Unfortunately the original price, after I saw that I threw up a little and tried to forget about it
G_money reply :
On 4/1/2012 at 11:56 AM, Tom D. said:Unfortunately the original price, after I saw that I threw up a little and tried to forget about it
What was the original price on those?...I never bought one when they were available.
tomustang reply :
On 4/1/2012 at 9:15 AM, Goose52 said:My only Curado 200E has line on it so I can't weigh the bare spool - perhaps someone out there can get the weight. I do have a NIB Curado 50E on-hand and the spool (assembly) on it weighs 11.27 grams.
a bait from 1/16 to 1/8oz lighter than the 200E.
If I recall right, I measured my curado 201E @7.70 oz, and my wife's citica 200e @ 7.75oz
tomustang reply :
On 4/1/2012 at 11:58 AM, flash said:What was the original price on those?...I never bought one when they were available.
Think the price on the display tag was $199
G_money reply :
On 4/1/2012 at 12:00 PM, Tom D. said:If I recall right, I measured my curado 201E @7.70 oz, and my wife's citica 200e @ 7.75oz
You can get the factory spool weight specs online in grams...I don't remember the sites but look up supertuning and they will show up.
Goose52 reply :
On 4/1/2012 at 12:00 PM, Tom D. said:If I recall right, I measured my curado 201E @7.70 oz, and my wife's citica 200e @ 7.75oz
Gone_Phishin was asking about spool weights - not reel weight. The 11.27 gram weight I quoted is about .4 ounce.
Gone_Phishin reply :
On 4/1/2012 at 9:15 AM, Goose52 said:My only Curado 200E has line on it so I can't weigh the bare spool - perhaps someone out there can get the weight. I do have a NIB Curado 50E on-hand and the spool (assembly) on it weighs 11.27 grams.
I think the 50E has a theoretical advantage over the 200E in tossing lighter baits - the 50E spool is lighter, it also holds less line than the 200E so overall spool weight is lighter and start-up will be easier. Assuming the rod will load, my guess it that the 50E could toss a bait from 1/16 to maybe 1/8oz lighter than the lightest bait tossed by the 200E. Theoretically...
Thanks for the info. 
I have both spools, unlined seeing as I live in the bitter freakin' north , and I will ask my brother if he can bring his scale over.
I couldn't agree more with your technical assessment.
Gone_Phishin reply :
On 4/1/2012 at 12:01 PM, Tom D. said:Think the price on the display tag was $199
That always makes me laugh. The Gander Mountains around here are notorious for charging full price on outdated reels.
Scorpio reply :
On 4/1/2012 at 9:21 PM, Hooligan said:Soo..yeah. I'm pretty much done here. The difference is between your ears man. There's no build difference in the reels. Think what you want, you'll continue to be wrong.
Correct. The Shimano reps say its the same reel. Hooligan is right.
smbrule reply :
On 4/1/2012 at 6:54 AM, Gone_Phishin said:I'd be curious as to what the two spools weigh.
It is not just the weight of the bare spool that counts for casting light baits--it is the weight of the spool filled with line.
For example:
The Curado 200 e7 spool weighs 13.8 grams bare, filled with 14# mono it weighs 24.2 g. The Citica 200 spool by the way weighs 1 g. more
The Curado 50e spool weighs 11.4 g. bare and 17.9 g filled with 14# mono. A significant difference in weight.
Not asked, but for example of line weight differences (if one is picky) is:
Chronarch 50 mg spool weighs 12.2 g. bare, with 14# mono 17.7g,, with 40 # power pro 16.6g. and with 10# Trilene XL 18.3 g. and with 10# Seaguar Invisix fluocarbon 21.8g.
I've found the difference in spool weight to be significant in casting, and more importantly pitching lures weighing 1/4 oz. or less.
For casting heavier lures my impression (I go back and forth on this) is that the Curado 200 e casts further than my 50e's. Perhaps because the spool ends up with less revolutions during the cast as the spool is wider.
Gone_Phishin reply :
Thanks for the info. Awesome!
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