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Darn Nanofil! 2024


fishing user avatarCrestliner2008 reply : 

I'll be honest with you folks. The designers of this line really screwed it up. I was very optimistic about Nanofil when it first appeared on the stage. Tried the 2# & 4# test on my 7' UL rig for crappie & bluegill. Total failure! Line kept breaking off. Could not find a knot to use with any kind of leader. Tried uni-uni, alberto, blood knot. Nothing worked. Breakage always occurred at the main line knot, not the leader. Then I tried tying direct to my jigs, using their "nano-knot". Same thing; line break-offs at the jig. I even tried a very slow "sweep-set". After loosing way too many expensive non-lead jigs (MA requirement now), I went back to my old reliable, Trilene XL. No problems....no worries. Now I'm not quite sure why I switched in the first place!

I also tried 10# test and the 12# test. Tied to a small Spro Powerswivel, with a 2 1/2' section of fluoro. Tried texas rigging some Senkos and again, lost about 1/2 dozen rigs - at the swivel knot. Tied direct and same thing. Tried doubling the "nano-knot" and that worked for awhile, but I still had a few break offs. If I use it with a circle hook, no problem; however, with any kind of "hook-set" being required, the odds are pretty good that I'll break off. Very disappointed.

I've been fishing a very long time and am quite proficient at tying knots. I just can't imagine how this line has survived the market place. Am I the only one experiencing these problems? Guess I'll be switching back to Fireline and PowerPro on my heavier rigs. Expensive testing!


fishing user avatarnew2BC4bass reply : 

Good thing to know. I was looking at it at DSG's Sunday, but passed. Glad I did. I am trying 10# Sufix 832 in white on a ML spinning outfit. Didn't catch any fish Sunday with it, but did haul in this humongous clump of weeds. Thought for sure it would break. Didn't. I feel your pain about losing all that terminal tackle. Too expensive these days to lose very many. Heck, I almost cried when I lost a 1/2 oz. spinnerbait in the Delaware the other day. :)


fishing user avatarLgMouthGambler reply : 

It should be called NoNoFill!


fishing user avatarroadwarrior reply : 

My buddy from Florence spooled up brand new line this weekend against my recommendation.

After a few hours he respooled. The line has ABSOLUTELY NO ABRASION RESISTANCE. It was

pitiful.


fishing user avatarmoguy1973 reply : 

I never had break offs at the knot (Palomar) but the line isn't strong at all and would break at the slightest snag up I would have. I junked it for some pline cx and haven't looked back.


fishing user avatarOkobojiEagle reply : 

Crestliner... I've been using two spinning reels with 10lb NanoFil + 10lb Sensation leader since June 2011, one spinning reel with 8lb NanoFil + 6lb leader since this past June (2012) and recently spooled a finesse baitcaster with 17lb NanoFil + 10lb leader. They are used primarily smallmouth fishing, but I catch my share of walleye, large white bass, drum, northern pike and muskies as well. I haven't had break off problems as you've reported. Very early on using NanoFil I learned to leave 1/2" of tag line with my NanoFil knots to accommodate any slippage that occurred with the line (that stuff is SLICK).

I haven't used the 17lb/baitcasting combination long enough to form an opinion... I'll report back after a couple of weeks use.

oe


fishing user avatarBluebasser86 reply : 

I've got one spinning reel with 8lb and one with 12lb Nanofil, both have flouro leaders. I've been attaching mine with back to back uni knots and skipping swimbaits under cables and senkos under docks, pulling fish back across crossbars with no issues. The main thing for me has been to throughly check my knots before I starting to fish with it. I really like the stuff and enjoy fishing with it. I could count the number of breakoffs I've had on one hand.


fishing user avatarQUAKEnSHAKE reply : 
  On 7/24/2012 at 6:37 PM, Crestliner2008 said:

I've been fishing a very long time and am quite proficient at tying knots.

Try this- double the line over a good foot or so -go through the eye twice - 7 turn UNI knot-1/4" tag

This is working very well for me with 6# on wacky rigged senko #2 weedless hook.


fishing user avatarmikeeasttn reply : 

I tried the Nanofil this sring in 10#. After losing two crankbaits that broke off on the hook set i replaced the line and have not used it again. Have a friend that tried to fish light jigs but from what he said he had the same problems I had. His and my experience is all I know about first hand but from what I have read on the forums a person is asking for a headache using this line even through it cast great.


fishing user avatarww2farmer reply : 

Thats dissapointing..........I was thinking of using it on my ice fishing rods this winter, I guess I will stick with Micro Ice.


fishing user avatarWdyCrankbait reply : 

Yeah, I have had some issues with the line breaking easily. Great concept, just not sure it was perfected.


fishing user avatarOkobojiEagle reply : 
  On 7/25/2012 at 7:46 PM, WdyCrankbait said:
just not sure it was perfected.

I look at everything as a "work in progress".

oe


fishing user avatarsmalljaw67 reply : 

One thing that every review of this line mentioned was that you cannot use it in or around cover as there is almost zero abrasion resistance. Once I read that I knew I'd never even try this line, where does someone fish at that they won't encounter cover of some type, no cover no fish is my school of thought but whatever, at least it is another reminder not to even think about using it.


fishing user avatarroadwarrior reply : 
  On 7/25/2012 at 9:23 PM, smalljaw67 said:

One thing that every review of this line mentioned was that you cannot use it in or around cover as there is almost zero abrasion resistance. Once I read that I knew I'd never even try this line, where does someone fish at that they won't encounter cover of some type, no cover no fish is my school of thought but whatever, at least it is another reminder not to even think about using it.

It's worse than that. A standard bullet weight nearly wore through my buddy's line!

I consider it "unfishable".


fishing user avatariabass8 reply : 

I've used it in 10# and 12# for walleye (mostly) and smallmouth. On the miss, zebra muscles just eat it alive. Ive had the line fray and break easilyy in snags but i don't believe i ever lost any fish (including 15# flatheads) with the line. It is a very "sensitive" line. I did use 6-8# fluoro leaders for smallmouth l. I was able to pull (had to really tug) the nanofil-braid knot out but still didnt lose a fish with it. I also cannot stand the noise it makes on my legend xtreme recoils. It just screeches. 10/2 pp s8s does not. Since i didnt have any leader issues i do find myself going bqck to itonce in a while for casting dropshots and mojo rigs because you will outcast other lines with ease.However with high vis yellow now avaliable in nanofil i may try it again but i wont be in any rush.


fishing user avatarcueball reply : 

Couple of thoughts. Dyneema lines are by their nature thin so they lack abrasion resistance and slippery so they are hard to tie knots.

I was just on vacation for a week and used 6# Nanofil on my primary drop shot rod for the entire week. The only problem I had was that my fluorocarbon leader broke at the knot with the Nanofil after fishing with it for 4 days. I blame myself. Normally I would have broke off the leader enough to need to retie before then. I used a 8# BPS XPS fluorocarbon leader tied to the Nanofil with a 10 turn Alberto knot. With most braid I use 8 turns, but heard that Nanofil was slippery so I upped it to 10. Never broke off a fish and when snagged broke the sinker off every time.

I think it is important to remember that lines are being designed for very specific situations. I don't think Nanofil is a general purpose line. I think using Nanofil just like you would Power Pro or Sufix 832 could lead to problems.

I have always tied a leader to any braid, not because of visibility concerns, but because of knot strength, abrasion resistance and ability to break off on snags. Braids have been formulated to have better abrasion resistance, but when the first came out the big complaints were it was hard to tie knots and no abrasion resistance.

I thought the biggest advantage to the Nanofil is how it felt when in the water. I have several rods with Sufix 832, compared to the Nanofil it felt like the 832 had a lot of drag in the water. In fact, I was able fish a lighter drop shot sinker with the Nanofil than I could with the 832.

A couple of final thoughts. Increase the number of wraps for any knot with slippery line. The slipperiness that makes it hard to get a knot to hold, also makes it easier to tighten the knot so you can use more wraps.

I purchased a ring that is used by wrapping the braid around it to help pull knots. You can pull knots much tighter and you don't cut your hand or fingers. I think it is a very useful tool.


fishing user avatarCybrSlydr reply : 

So, I've been very disappointed with the 8# Nanofil.  Absolutely adore it's ability to cast a country mile (especially since I shore-fish) but I've had similar issues as above - the knot will just not hold.

 

So I'm asking you folks - is there a similar line out there that can cast similarly but the knots actually hold?  Gliss?  Appreciate the input!


fishing user avatarA-Jay reply : 
  On 1/23/2017 at 2:53 AM, CybrSlydr said:

So, I've been very disappointed with the 8# Nanofil.  Absolutely adore it's ability to cast a country mile (especially since I shore-fish) but I've had similar issues as above - the knot will just not hold.

 

So I'm asking you folks - is there a similar line out there that can cast similarly but the knots actually hold?  Gliss?  Appreciate the input!

 

Back from the archives ~ Yours & mine

A-Jay


fishing user avatarCybrSlydr reply : 

Would I have a different experience with a spinning setup vs your casting?  Especially with some in the sub-10lb.


fishing user avatarCybrSlydr reply : 

Dp


fishing user avatarLoomis13 reply : 

Suffix Nanobraid has been better for me than nanofil. Only tired it on spinning though.


fishing user avatard-camarena reply : 

I have found that nanofil has its advantages... In the garbage


fishing user avatarRoLo reply : 

I well remember A-Jay's field report on Nanofil line.

Knowing the integrity with which he writes, that was enough to "keep me at bay".

After reading Crestliner's review, I'm revamping that passage to "dodging the bullet"   :o

 

Roger


fishing user avatarBluebasser86 reply : 

I liked Nanofil, but Gliss is better and has taken it'splace.


fishing user avatarburrows reply : 
  On 7/24/2012 at 6:37 PM, Crestliner2008 said:

I'll be honest with you folks. The designers of this line really screwed it up. I was very optimistic about Nanofil when it first appeared on the stage. Tried the 2# & 4# test on my 7' UL rig for crappie & bluegill. Total failure! Line kept breaking off. Could not find a knot to use with any kind of leader. Tried uni-uni, alberto, blood knot. Nothing worked. Breakage always occurred at the main line knot, not the leader. Then I tried tying direct to my jigs, using their "nano-knot". Same thing; line break-offs at the jig. I even tried a very slow "sweep-set". After loosing way too many expensive non-lead jigs (MA requirement now), I went back to my old reliable, Trilene XL. No problems....no worries. Now I'm not quite sure why I switched in the first place!

I also tried 10# test and the 12# test. Tied to a small Spro Powerswivel, with a 2 1/2' section of fluoro. Tried texas rigging some Senkos and again, lost about 1/2 dozen rigs - at the swivel knot. Tied direct and same thing. Tried doubling the "nano-knot" and that worked for awhile, but I still had a few break offs. If I use it with a circle hook, no problem; however, with any kind of "hook-set" being required, the odds are pretty good that I'll break off. Very disappointed.

I've been fishing a very long time and am quite proficient at tying knots. I just can't imagine how this line has survived the market place. Am I the only one experiencing these problems? Guess I'll be switching back to Fireline and PowerPro on my heavier rigs. Expensive testing!

I can't believe you tried it 4 times till you finally gave up on it:/ I think I would have learned the first time .


fishing user avatarJagg reply : 

Tried Nanofil when it first came out and gave up on it. Tried it again in Spring 2016 when I noticed they had a green line and it's my favorite for some of the stuff I do now. 

 

I use use it on my spinning rigs UL - M when I'm fishing finesse. I tie a mono leader on with an Alberto knot and make sure I moisten the knot before I slowly cinch it down. That seems to be the biggest problem everyone is having. Doubling the line, moisten knot and slowly cinch it down. I also tie on about a 5' mono leader in about the same diameter line.

 

My favorite UL rig and ML rig now have this line on the main spool and straight mono on the spare spool. I fished these rigs heavily this past year and they never let me down. Didn't have one break off, cast a country mile with light jigs and rigs and caught fish that I had been missing when they would bite on the end of a long cast.

 

I did buy some Gliss from Academy last month when they had it on sale, but have not been able to try it out yet. Hoping it's as good as the Nanofil.


fishing user avatarOCdockskipper reply : 

My experience with it has been the complete opposite.  I use 8 & 10 lb test Nanofil on all my spinning rods, with the lone exception being an ultralight with 4 lb test on it.  I use a crazy Alberta knot to tie P-Line fluorocarbon leaders and use a drop of superglue on the knot to help with the abrasion of going through the knots.  Used it for over 3 years and have had none of the problems many people have reported.  I know many consider it an insult to their angling skills to suggest they are not tying their knots correctly, but I don't know what else it could be.  The line is not mono or fluoro, it has its own characteristics, but it can be a great tool if used correctly.

 

As for strength, I have landed five bass over 7 1/2 lbs with the 8 & 10 lb strength.  My drags are set at about 30% of line strength and I never horse fish in.  I have also caught dozens of catfish and carp over 10 lbs with no issue or break offs.

 

I have never used Gliss, but I haven't had a need to try anything else.


fishing user avatarQUAKEnSHAKE reply : 
  On 1/23/2017 at 2:30 PM, OCdockskipper said:

My experience with it has been the complete opposite.  I use 8 & 10 lb test Nanofil on all my spinning rods, with the lone exception being an ultralight with 4 lb test on it.  I use a crazy Alberta knot to tie P-Line fluorocarbon leaders and use a drop of superglue on the knot to help with the abrasion of going through the knots.  Used it for over 3 years and have had none of the problems many people have reported.  I know many consider it an insult to their angling skills to suggest they are not tying their knots correctly, but I don't know what else it could be.  The line is not mono or fluoro, it has its own characteristics, but it can be a great tool if used correctly.

 

As for strength, I have landed five bass over 7 1/2 lbs with the 8 & 10 lb strength.  My drags are set at about 30% of line strength and I never horse fish in.  I have also caught dozens of catfish and carp over 10 lbs with no issue or break offs.

 

I have never used Gliss, but I haven't had a need to try anything else.

 

 Its the subpar knot recommended to use by Berkley it just slips too easily. People think of it as a braid and think it should be stronger than rated like most true braids.

Once I figured out a knot that increased my strength by 50% to the rating Ive not had a lost fish due to knot failure, pike bite offs yes.


fishing user avataraquaholik reply : 

I believe the op about line failure. But it's really more like knot failure. Just use FG knot with a leader and your problem will go away. I've done extensive testing with FG knot strength in nanofil. I can truthfully tell you that it's FG knot strength is 150% of it's labeled strength from 6 lbs Nanofil to 14 lbs Nanofil. I have used it the last 3 seasons and it has landed thousands of fish from countless jacks and pompanos to sheepshead and large drum and plenty of bass to 5lbs in the backyard pond.




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