Whats Your Opinion On Flourocarbon ? 2024
Mainebass1984 reply :
I recently started using 8 lb fluorocarbon. At first I loved it. I was casting a bit further and getting plenty more bites then when I was using 12 lb mono. I also like how transparent fluorocarbon is in the water. The past couple times I have been I haven't been quite as impressed. I am not sure why but the line seems to be brittle. One little nick in the line and it breaks very easily. I would also say in my opinion so far it isn't the best idea to use it around heavy cover as I have had a couple big fish break me off n some very thick stuff.
I was wondering what everyone's opinion is on fluorocarbon and there experience with it.
Tywithay reply :
If you're fishing heavy cover with 8lb line, it's not the line. It has better abrasion resistance, in relation to diameter, than mono or braid.
einscodek reply :
Love flouro
Finesse and open water situations only 4 me
Around cover and rocks I aint takin a chance losing an expensive lure.. its brittle and some manufacturers are more brittle than others
Raul reply :
8 lb FC is not for heavy cover.
Tywithay reply :
On 7/22/2014 at 8:35 PM, einscodek said:Love flouro
Finesse and open water situations only 4 me
Around cover and rocks I aint takin a chance losing an expensive lure.. its brittle and some manufacturers are more brittle than others
It's actually the opposite. Quality fluoro is the least brittle around cover and rocks.
Felix77 reply :
I fish mostly Fluoro.
8lb leaders on all my spinning gear - Seaguar InvizX, Braid for a main line
Baitcasters - range from 12-15lbs - Seaguar InvizX
Heavy Cover - 17-20lb Seaguar AbrazX
The only rod which I keep mono on is my topwater rod. 12 -15 lb mono.
BrianinMD reply :
I am almost exactly like Felix, except all of my baitcasters except those for topwater have Abrazx (12 to 20lb). The extra abrasion resistance comes in useful fishing around heavier cover. A spinning rod with 8lb is just not going to hold up very well.
.ghoti. reply :
Much ado about nothing.
jtesch reply :
Love it, and hate it
fishballer06 reply :
I've been a braid guy for years. Just spooled up my new Curado I with 10 lb. flouro to try it out again. I can't say I'm overly impressed with it so far, but I do seem to get more strikes compared to my boatmate while using it.
gulfcaptain reply :
Yeah 8lb isn't gonna hold up very well in heavy cover. And you also have lack of stretch that you get with mono so it may be breaking at the knot when you swing. Most of the time when FC breaks on me it's at the knot which is the weakest spot. And depending on what knot, how you tied it, and weather there was enough moisture/lube (spit) when tightening, these all can cause failer. Also, depending on how you store your line....if it's in a hot place then it could effect the strenght as well. And last, well ofcourse brand you're fishing with can make a difference too. My advice if you feel little dent or irregularities in your line when you're either spooling or fishing, it's been compromised and needs to be replaced. This can happen the farther down the filler spool you get as well.
doyle8218 reply :
I don't use FC anymore. I use Yo-Zuri instead with zero problems.
Cgrinder reply :
I'm just getting into using it as a mainline. I like it so far.
masterbass reply :
I use long 8' fluoro leaders on braid. I hear so much about fluoro having slack line sensitivity. Do you think using long leaders will give me the same benefits?
gulfcaptain reply :
On 7/22/2014 at 11:38 PM, masterbass said:I use long 8' fluoro leaders on braid. I hear so much about fluoro having slack line sensitivity. Do you think using long leaders will give me the same benefits?
8' is plenty long and you should still get all the benefits you are looking for from the FC. I use anywhere from 3-8' depending on what I'm doing.
Mainebass1984 reply :
I do realize 8lb fluorocarbon is not ideal for heavy cover.
Usually when I fish heavy cover I use 50 lb power pro.
The particular place where I have been fishing it is in open water right on a drop that goes 8 to 30 feet. The problem is that along sections of this drop off there is very thick pond weed that grows up off bottom 10 feet.
I always tie a palomar knot and moisten it before tightening it.
I guess this leads into another question I ask myself. Should I cast into that heavy cover which is sometimes woody knowing that I may not be able to get the fish out but at the same time feeling as if the best chance of getting that bite is with the light line and fluorocarbon ? Or should I cast 12 lb mono knowing the chance of landing that fish is better then using 8 lb fluorocarbon ? I do have the utmost confidence if I hook that big fish with 50 lb braid that its coming in the boat even if I am breaking trees on the way to getting it in the boat.
Another question. What is your favorite fluorocarbon brand ? I had been using Berkley vanish.
I have been using this line for a month or so now. The number of bites I have been catching has dramatically increased over 12 lb mono fishing the same lure. I have caught some quality fish using it too, including a 5-0 and a 5-2, fishing in very thick weeds.
I was liking the line very much until it was seemed like it was getting very very brittle. I lost 2 very large bass that broke the line after getting into heavy cover but it seemed to break way easier then it had been.
I had been keeping the rod and reel in my truck. Does prolonged exposure to sunlight cause fluorocarbon to break down ?
BrianinMD reply :
I wouldn't use mono, not very abrasion resistant.
For flouro, you will get a few different answers on what to use. but almost everyone will say get rid of the vanish. My personal experience is to use Seaquar Invizx on spinning and Abrazx on baitcast gear. I have had extremely good results with it.
unlike mono sunlight will not breakdown flouro.
Bmurr7 reply :
I use 6,7 or 8lb fluoro for drop shots and I love it. Lately I've been using P-line's 8lb fluorocarbon coated mono and it's been amazingly strong, ridiculously strong actually.... It's not as brittle as straight FC and I still get abrasion resistance and less memory than I would with mono, also sinks a little faster . I use 14-17lb FC for spinnerbaits (personal preference- I like mono here too or braid with fluoro leader) and some Texas rig and weightless Senko situations, the FC helps the weightless senkos or wacky's sink faster and I get better sensitivity, less stretch and it holds up well when working the worm over bottom. Casts are great with fluoro as well because its slick and smooth (keep it wound tight on the spool though!!) and I've gained quite a bit of casting distance with fluoro. Anyway, I hated fluoro at first, I increased the brake a little on my reel, and just learned how to use fluoro better and with some practice it's now one of my favorite lines. In heavy cover though braid will always be my favorite. If you're going to use fluoro for heavy cover, use 17-25lb.
Tywithay reply :
No. The fluoro will still have the benefits, but they'll never reach you.On 7/22/2014 at 11:38 PM, masterbass said:I use long 8' fluoro leaders on braid. I hear so much about fluoro having slack line sensitivity. Do you think using long leaders will give me the same benefits?
Tywithay reply :
I would do away with Vanish, the polamar, and use heavier line. Is there a reason you don't just use 12lb fluoro?
Hyrule Bass reply :
On 7/22/2014 at 7:40 PM, Mainebass1984 said:I recently started using 8 lb fluorocarbon. At first I loved it. I was casting a bit further and getting plenty more bites then when I was using 12 lb mono. I also like how transparent fluorocarbon is in the water. The past couple times I have been I haven't been quite as impressed. I am not sure why but the line seems to be brittle. One little nick in the line and it breaks very easily. I would also say in my opinion so far it isn't the best idea to use it around heavy cover as I have had a couple big fish break me off n some very thick stuff.
I was wondering what everyone's opinion is on fluorocarbon and there experience with it.
waste of money. go back to the mono. transparency shmansparency, ive had multiple bluegill attack FC line in the water in front of me, yet the same school of bluegill ignored mono...
Tywithay reply :
There's more to it than just the claims of invisibility. Even if it and mono look identical under water, fluoro has many other properties that make it superior in most situations. Good fluoro has better sensitivity, less stretch, better abrasion resistance, it sinks faster, it doesn't degrade under uv light, and it lasts much longer. Only downfall is knot strength, but done properly, that's a non-issue.On 7/23/2014 at 3:33 AM, Red Earth said:waste of money. go back to the mono. transparency shmansparency, ive had multiple bluegill attack FC line in the water in front of me, yet the same school of bluegill ignored mono...
senile1 reply :
On 7/22/2014 at 11:54 PM, Mainebass1984 said:Another question. What is your favorite fluorocarbon brand ? I had been using Berkley vanish.
I have been using this line for a month or so now. The number of bites I have been catching has dramatically increased over 12 lb mono fishing the same lure. I have caught some quality fish using it too, including a 5-0 and a 5-2, fishing in very thick weeds.
I was liking the line very much until it was seemed like it was getting very very brittle. I lost 2 very large bass that broke the line after getting into heavy cover but it seemed to break way easier then it had been.
I had been keeping the rod and reel in my truck. Does prolonged exposure to sunlight cause fluorocarbon to break down ?
I used Berkley Vanish a few years back and swore off of it rather quickly. I had a lot of issues with brittleness and breakage. I read a number of complaints from others about it back then. I switched to BassPro and Cabelas FC lines at the time and eventually worked my way to Seaguar which is mostly what I use for fluorocarbon applications now. I assumed Berkley would have corrected the issues with Vanish since that time.
You probably already do this, but make sure you wet the FC knot profusely before pulling it tight. It can cut into itself if you aren't careful.
Hyrule Bass reply :
On 7/23/2014 at 3:52 AM, Tywithay said:There's more to it than just the claims of invisibility. Even if it and mono look identical under water, fluoro has many other properties that make it superior in most situations. Good fluoro has better sensitivity, less stretch, better abrasion resistance, it sinks faster, it doesn't degrade under uv light, and it lasts much longer. Only downfall is knot strength, but done properly, that's a non-issue.
all stuff that is so minimal it rarely makes a difference anyways. mono is much better in my opinion, especially for the difference in price as well...
Tywithay reply :
The price difference doesn't mean much when you don't have to respool fluoro for a few years.On 7/23/2014 at 4:21 AM, Red Earth said:all stuff that is so minimal it rarely makes a difference anyways. mono is much better in my opinion, especially for the difference in price as well...
K_Mac reply :
As said in the other FC thread, it is really a matter of personal choice. I believe the advantages outweigh the additional cost and perceived handling issues. I believe using it gives me greater feel, resulting in more fish. You will have to draw your own conclusions.
Mainebass1984 reply :
I was most certainly getting more bites on 8 lb flouro then 12 lb.
I can see bottom very clearly in 20 feet where I have been fishing. If there is any small advantage in transparency I am going to use it.
As I mentioned before I almost always tie a palomar knot. I do thoroughly wet the line when using any knot.
Is there a different knot I should be using ?
Tywithay reply :
The palomar lnot is known to cut itself at times. The thinner the line, the more likely this is. I've always used an improved clinch and it has worked well. I know a lot of people like the uni, trilene, san diego jam, or any number of popular knots.On 7/23/2014 at 8:02 PM, Mainebass1984 said:I was most certainly getting more bites on 8 lb flouro then 12 lb.
I can see bottom very clearly in 20 feet where I have been fishing. If there is any small advantage in transparency I am going to use it.
As I mentioned before I almost always tie a palomar knot. I do thoroughly wet the line when using any knot.
Is there a different knot I should be using ?
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 7/23/2014 at 8:02 PM, Mainebass1984 said:I was most certainly getting more bites on 8 lb flouro then 12 lb.
I can see bottom very clearly in 20 feet where I have been fishing. If there is any small advantage in transparency I am going to use it.
As I mentioned before I almost always tie a palomar knot. I do thoroughly wet the line when using any knot.
Is there a different knot I should be using ?
Learn to tie a San Diego Jam. I tie it carefully, slowly, and hold the knot in my mouth as I tighten it slowly. When tied correctly it's extremely strong.
The added benefits of a GOOD fluorocarbon (big emphasis on good) far outweigh the negatives and make it a much better line than mono for the situation you're using it for. It isn't completely invisible, but it's much less visible than mono and on a long hookset mono stretches like a rubber band. Fluoro still stretches, just a lot less than mono does.
I know a few guys who like it, but I've had nothing but bad experiences with Vanish. Seaguar and Sunline make my favorite fluoros.
Mainebass1984 reply :
I have had great success using a palomar knot when using mono and braid. Extremely rare to have a knot fail or get broken off and I like to fish the thickest nastiest weeds and trees.
I hadn't been broken off this year at all until I started using fluorocarbon for a couple specific situations.
Looks like I will be using a new knot for flouro.
The Vanish is getting trashed. I am going to pick up some Seaguar.
senile1 reply :
On 7/23/2014 at 9:15 PM, Mainebass1984 said:I have had great success using a palomar knot when using mono and braid. Extremely rare to have a knot fail or get broken off and I like to fish the thickest nastiest weeds and trees.
I hadn't been broken off this year at all until I started using fluorocarbon for a couple specific situations.
Looks like I will be using a new knot for flouro.
The Vanish is getting trashed. I am going to pick up some Seaguar.
There you go. I do think you will notice an improvement in the breakage. Let us know if you see an improvement. If Vanish still has a brittleness problem after all these years, Berkley should be kicking themselves.
K_Mac reply :
The San Diego Jam knot has become my go-to for everything. It is strong and easy to tie.
*Hootie reply :
The first fluoro I ever used was Vanish. Bought it because it was the cheapest. Never ever had a problem with it. The first fluoro I ever had a problem with was Seaguar. Ironically, Seaguar is all I use now.
If I had pitched it because of my first experience, I would be missing out on a good line. I just recently got a spool of Seaguar that had broken places as it was coming off the spool. Just threw it out. It didn't turn me against Seaguar. It's just a fact, that sometimes you're going to get an apple with a worm in
it. That's life...lol.
Hootie
Smokinal reply :
I don't care for it as my main line (too much memory for me) but I use it as leader on everything. I have always used an improved clinch and don't think I've ever had a knot break. I wet it well and snug it down very slowly.
RoLo reply :
On 7/22/2014 at 9:15 PM, .ghoti. said:Much ado about nothing.
I used fluorocarbon line before most anglers, because the price during the 1990s was hyper-inflated.
I used it for leader material on my saltwater rigs, but found fluoro leaders to be unremarkable.
Oddly, this thread asks for opinions on fluorocarbon line, yet it reads like a 'knot-strength' thread (i.e. Red Flag).
Fluorocarbon is touted as having a refractive index similar to water, but that really doesn't light my fire.
IMO, 'line diameter' is more important than 'line visibility' where the finer the line, the more natural the delivery.
Does 'line visibility' really matter to bass? Maybe, but I'm still waiting for something to hang my hat on.
Actually, I secretly wish that it was just that simple, because I still remember a few good fluoro knots 
Roger
rboat reply :
I don't really care for flourocarbon line. I have had it snap on a moderate hook set, had knots fail, and it seems to have more of a memory problem. It is extremely smooth and mostly invisible and I am sure it has some great applications. Our water here is mostly dark, shallow and weedy so a line that sinks faster can be a burden. To each his own, If it works good for you, use it.
IneedAnewScreenName-983749 reply :
Love fluoro.
Alonerankin2 reply :
I'd put 20pd Yo-Zuri against any floro... In regards to tuffness , that said the feel of floro is unique.
Mr. BattleArmor reply :
I've only used fluoro as leader for braided line when i'm salt water fishing. For freshwater I've never had problems with mono, never enough where it warranted me wanting to try fluoro as main line.
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