Veritas Vs Mojo Bass 2024
g7evans reply :
new to the site. just snapped my 6.6 MH BPS Extreme Spinning rod and need to buy a new one. looking between the abu garcia veritas and st croix mojo bass. heard the veritas snapps easy and the mojo bass is uncomfortable to handle. looking for a 6.6-7 foot M action for shakey head/texas rig. going to pair it with a quantum pt energy. any advise on one vs the other? another suggestion possbily? not looking to spend more than $100-$125. thanks.
LgMouthGambler reply :
Never heard of a Veritas snapping easy myself. Either way good rods. Mount a reel on them and see which one feels better.
BASSclary reply :
Veritas do still have breaking issues, and mojo bass is known for being a bit tip heavy. Daiwa has a new t-series of rods out that are pretty comfortable and very nice for 75 dollars, but I haven't used mine enough to make a very detailed opinion on them. I do like them better than the afore mentioned rods so far.
TNBassin' reply :
I have 3 Veritas rods, and all are still in one piece. Not sure how folks are breaking them.
webertime reply :
Go with the 6'8" Mojo Medium XF. I've had both Veritas and Mojo's.
Veritas do have cracking issues, it's documented all over this site, the other larger forums, abu's own reviews on their own page, TW and BPS reviews.
If you are looking for a ~$100 spinning rod, check out the 6'8" med xf BPS Carbonlite.
Diggy reply :
On 11/12/2012 at 4:00 AM, webertime said:Go with the 6'8" Mojo Medium XF. I've had both Veritas and Mojo's.
Veritas do have cracking issues, it's documented all over this site, the other larger forums, abu's own reviews on their own page, TW and BPS reviews.
If you are looking for a ~$100 spinning rod, check out the 6'8" med xf BPS Carbonlite.
This might be advisable based on someone else that has both (veritas/bps carbonlite) for spinning and prefers the carbonlite. A falcon rod may even be better suited to your needs.
TNBassin' reply :
The Falcon Bucoo micro is an excellent rod as well. I've got my new STX sitting on one and I like a tad more than my veritas. You can nab a Veritas micro or a winch model on walmart.com for $70 though.
moguy1973 reply :
I have a Veritas micro guide rod paired with a 3rd gen Revo S and it's great.
For what it's worth, Walmart still has their Veritas microguide casting rods on sale for $70.80+tax with free shipping on their website...
RyneB reply :
I love my Veritas, i hate my Mojo.
BassinLou reply :
Checkout the premiere, its around the same range and its a St. Croix.
GOOCHY reply :
Those Mojo's feel really tip heavy to me. YMMV.
bassinbrian reply :
On 11/12/2012 at 3:37 AM, BASSclary said:Veritas do still have breaking issues, and mojo bass is known for being a bit tip heavy. Daiwa has a new t-series of rods out that are pretty comfortable and very nice for 75 dollars, but I haven't used mine enough to make a very detailed opinion on them. I do like them better than the afore mentioned rods so far.
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The Daiwa T rods are nice for a stick under the $100 mark. My buddy has been fishing with them for awhile (Maybe since they first came out but not sure) and has had 0 issues so far. As with the rest I've only held them in store so I can't comment on them. Though I'm a big St. Croix fan so the mojo May one to look at even if it may a bit tip heavy.
*Hootie reply :
On 11/12/2012 at 5:34 AM, RyneB said:I love my Veritas, i hate my Mojo.
Don't have a Veritas, but I have a Mojo I hate.
Hootie
Arv reply :
Both are good. Also check out the Shimano Compre if you can. Its a good rod in that price range. I have a 6'6 M/F spinning compre and I use it for shakey heads and light t rigs.
ww2farmer reply :
I will take all of the "hated" Mojo's off peoples hands that want to get rid of them.
11justin22 reply :
I own both and would get a carbonlite over both of those.
flyfisher reply :
I own both and I prefer the mojo. Something just feels off on the veritas but not enough to warrant me not using it.
Both are good rods though and I wouldn't hesitate recommending either of them to anyone in that price point.
unionman reply :
All my BC rods are mojos. I LOVE them. So sensitive yet strong. Comfy in hand too. Best rods Ive even owned/used.
backcast88 reply :
I have handled the Mojo and that's about it. They feel pretty good but maybe a little tip heavy. I had a Veritas for a week and fished with it twice. It was light and sinsitive but there was just something about it that I didn't care for. I am not sure what it was or why I didn't like it, but I could never get comfortable with it. I took it back and got a 6'8" mxf Carbonlite. I love the rod. Every bit as light and sensitive as the Veritas and I am very comfortable with it.
Of the 2 you are looking at I would go with the Veritas but if your open to suggestions, look at the Carbonlites.
craww reply :
Of the two, I'd say veritas rods all around are much better but feel like their missing a truely good shakey head rod in the line up. The 7' M is a bit too stout for the 1/16 giggy heads I throw, and the 6'9" ML is a MOD Fast I believe.
Ive had a casting mojo for 3-4 years now and have regretted it since I bought it. Two guide inserts have fallen out. Its dead, not sensitive at all and actually hurts my wrists if I use it for tip up techs. Its the most uncomfortable and least sensitive rod I own.
With all that said, I'd look at a carbonlight...
Knightiac reply :
I've also got a Mojo and love it. It's very comfortable. I have never once stopped fishing and thought "Man, this thing is tip heavy." I also have a Carbonlite and I'm not nearly as big a fan of it. Completely different feel. It's all preference.
I have a Vendetta MH that I loved, purchased a Carbonlite MH that was going to replace it, but I ended up liking the Vendetta more anyways so I've just got one spooled up with mono and the other with braid. Two applications. My M Mojo just trounces both in my opinion, more sensitive and more comfortable.
Bluebasser86 reply :
The Veritas feel nice but I won't buy one until they get their breakage issues fixed. I know some guys that work at BPS and Cabela's and they all say that other than store brand rods the Veritas is one of the most returned rods for breakage issues. I have a few Mojos and have no complaints about them. If I was looking for a rod in the $100 range I'd look really hard at the BPS Carbonlites. They're very light and comfortable to hold and if anything happens to it BPS should take care of it for you.
PABASS reply :
I own both and prefer the veritas, its lighter and more sensitive. I will say QC on Abu side needs to be address with these rods, mine came in and the epoxy was cracked, I sent it back without any issues and this new one looks much better. I have read with numerous people having issues with the veritas rods.. St Croix makes a better quality rod and i think my next may be an avid but then your not comparing apples to apples.
g7evans reply :
thanks for all the responses......looks like i need to look deeper into the bps carbonlite as an option too.........heard mostly posititve things about it on this thread........any negatives?
11justin22 reply :
On 11/13/2012 at 3:59 AM, g7evans said:thanks for all the responses......looks like i need to look deeper into the bps carbonlite as an option too.........heard mostly posititve things about it on this thread........any negatives?
They had an issue with the early micros. The guides inserts were coming out but I think they have that fixed now. I have a micro with no issues. Regular version I have not heard of any problems.
retiredbosn reply :
I would STRONGLY advise against a Mojo, had a couple gladly no longer have them, one word junk. Save yourself 30-40 bucks get a Shimano Convergence, life time over the counter guarantee, decent rod. A huge improvement over the Mojo. Never had a Veritas can't comment
Arv reply :
On 11/13/2012 at 3:59 AM, g7evans said:thanks for all the responses......looks like i need to look deeper into the bps carbonlite as an option too.........heard mostly posititve things about it on this thread........any negatives?
IMO, I would go to a sporting goods/fishing store and handle both and see which one you like more because I feel like most people's recommendations between these two rods (Mojo and Veritas) will be personal preference. If I was to pick between the two though, I would pick the Mojo. Negatives on the Mojo, it is a bit tip heavy but other than that, for the price, it is a nice rod. Why I would pick it over the Veritas, I don't like the metal screwing component of the reel seat as I feel like it is a little rough on the reel when securing it. Its not going to ruin your reel by any means, but may show a little where its been. Also, I find the trigger to be a little uncomfortable on my fingers after fishing it a while. I have no experience with the Carbonlite but I feel like I have read enough positive reviews about it to say that it would be worth a look. The good thing, from my point of view, is you won't go wrong with any of them.
aavery2 reply :
I have owned both rods in the past, I prefered the Veritas, I found it more sensitive, and was built with better componets, The Mojo made a good moving baits rod, but for me was tip heavy and lacked sensitivity to fish bottom baits. If you are open to suggestions, I would say look at the Falcon Bucoo, made in the USA and a very good rod in terms of weight, build quality and sensitivity.
Arv reply :
On 11/13/2012 at 9:34 AM, aavery2 said:I have owned both rods in the past, I prefered the Veritas, I found it more sensitive, and was built with better componets, The Mojo made a good moving baits rod, but for me was tip heavy and lacked sensitivity to fish bottom baits.
I agree with the sensitivity aspect aavery mentioned. I neglected to mention that I use mine for spinnerbaits and chatterbaits. If I was to get a bottom contact rod between the two, I would go with the Veritas.
unionman reply :
On 11/13/2012 at 8:21 AM, retiredbosn said:I would STRONGLY advise against a Mojo, had a couple gladly no longer have them, one word junk. Save yourself 30-40 bucks get a Shimano Convergence, life time over the counter guarantee, decent rod. A huge improvement over the Mojo. Never had a Veritas can't comment
LMAO You forgot to put IMO. Because thats all that is. An opinoin. And the only reason you give is a four letter word? Wow. Way to be descriptive. Just another shimano groupie trying to spread the disease.(relax shimanomaniacs...) The last Shimano rod I owned (which was waaaaaay overpriced) was actually "decent". Thats it, just decent. My ugly sticks are decent too. I sold it for less than half the actual cost because I felt thats what it was worth. For $99 you can be the proud owner of a St. Croix rod with a proud American made product (yes I know the mojos are made in Mexico but its better than Asia). Their HQ is in the U.S and ALL St. Croix's are designed in America by American rodmakers. Im not really a one brand guy I just like the American history behind St. Croixs. Too many companies send their manufacturing abroad to increase profits at the cost of quality. All too common and a major problem in this fine country.
dam0007 reply :
St. Croix Premier 6' M/F I own. Love it! $100 +/- retail
retiredbosn reply :
Wow taking a shot over my bow for a opinion. I'm feeling pretty onery this evening so think I will respond. Thanks 
On 11/12/2012 at 10:51 AM, unionman said:Best rods Ive even owned/used.
I would suggest getting your hands on a few more rods then.
On 11/13/2012 at 9:49 AM, unionman said:LMAO You forgot to put IMO. Because thats all that is. An opinoin. And the only reason you give is a four letter word? Wow. Way to be descriptive. Just another shimano groupie trying to spread the disease.(relax shimanomaniacs...) The last Shimano rod I owned (which was waaaaaay overpriced) was actually "decent". Thats it, just decent. My ugly sticks are decent too. I sold it for less than half the actual cost because I felt thats what it was worth. For $99 you can be the proud owner of a St. Croix rod with a proud American made product (yes I know the mojos are made in Mexico but its better than Asia). Their HQ is in the U.S and ALL St. Croix's are designed in America by American rodmakers. Im not really a one brand guy I just like the American history behind St. Croixs. Too many companies send their manufacturing abroad to increase profits at the cost of quality. All too common and a major problem in this fine country.
I'm not a Shimano groupie 
, them's fightin words lol. Just ask Gambler don't think he issued me a card for the possee. In my boat I carry rod wise Quantum Tour PT's , KVD PT, BPS Crankin Stick, Diawa Procyon, Shimano Convergence and a Dick's Field and Stream Tech Spec.As far as the Mojo, St Croix should drop that line IMO as they do nothing positive for the brand. They are dead sticks, tip heavy, craftsmanship leaves a lot to be desired, hardly get the guides on straight or inline, the finish is sloppy, the reel seat doesn't even touch the blank until it is at the opening where you can lay your finger on it, additionally the glue used to affix it looks likes and feels likes silicone glue, which is typically offcenter. Reel wise I have more BPS PQ's than anything. I recommended the Convergence as it is in the price range, something goes wrong you take it back to the dealer no shipping it anywhere and absorbing that cost, it is much more sensitive than the Mojo and is balanced better. St Croix's are assembled in America, with parts that are mainly if not entirely made in Asia, no more American made than the Chevy Malibu or Ford Focus made in Canada and Mexico respectively. Ask Bass Pro what blanks are used for the Extreme Rods, the same as St. Croix Premier. I do agree you should buy American trouble is in today's global market its nearly impossible.
unionman reply :
On 11/13/2012 at 10:26 AM, retiredbosn said:Wow taking a shot over my bow for a opinion. I'm feeling pretty onery this evening so think I will respond. Thanks
I would suggest getting your hands on a few more rods then.
I'm not a Shimano groupie
, them's fightin words lol. Just ask Gambler don't think he issued me a card for the possee. In my boat I carry rod wise Quantum Tour PT's , KVD PT, BPS Crankin Stick, Diawa Procyon, Shimano Convergence and a Dick's Field and Stream Tech Spec.As far as the Mojo, St Croix should drop that line IMO as they do nothing positive for the brand. They are dead sticks, tip heavy, craftsmanship leaves a lot to be desired, hardly get the guides on straight or inline, the finish is sloppy, the reel seat doesn't even touch the blank until it is at the opening where you can lay your finger on it, additionally the glue used to affix it looks likes and feels likes silicone glue, which is typically offcenter. Reel wise I have more BPS PQ's than anything. I recommended the Convergence as it is in the price range, something goes wrong you take it back to the dealer no shipping it anywhere and absorbing that cost, it is much more sensitive than the Mojo and is balanced better. St Croix's are assembled in America, with parts that are mainly if not entirely made in Asia, no more American made than the Chevy Malibu or Ford Focus made in Canada and Mexico respectively. Ask Bass Pro what blanks are used for the Extreme Rods, the same as St. Croix Premier. I do agree you should buy American trouble is in today's global market its nearly impossible.
I literally just examined my rod closely for everything you just mentioned. Not sure what you mean by dead stick...but I dont notice any tip imbalance AT ALL. I have a Quantum Tour Edition on it that works like a dream. The eyes are ALL perfectly straight and centered (if you read on St. Croixs site how they are affixted to the rod you would know its nearly impossible to get it wrong) and the black cherry finish is absolutely flawless and awesome when the sun hits it! Im not sure (again) what your problem is with the fuji reel seat but mine has NONE of the issues you mentioned. Silicone??? Where??? Again, perfectly centered and inline with eyes. The first thing that caught my eye was the awesome finish and overall design and craftmanship of the rod. Not sure where the heck your getting your rods from but it sounds like they are buying factory rejects and riping you off. Got mine from Dick's and tackledirect.com.
iabass8 reply :
It really feels like people expect way too much for a 100$ rod.
Knightiac reply :
I've gotta agree with unionman. I love everything about my mojo. The only flaw is the scratch that I put on it because I'm a moron and got mad while holding a knife.
A lot of fishing is about confidence. If you pick up a rod you're excited about, you give it a better chance. You'll fish it longer and harder. If you pick up a rod you don't have so much confidence in, you'll fish it faster and be quicker to dismiss it.
I have not touched a Veritas but I can vouch that the Mojo, Carbonlite and even the old Vendetta are good rods. I have not touched the newer Vendetta.
You've gotta pick one up to determine it.
Arv reply :
On 11/13/2012 at 12:42 PM, iabass8 said:It really feels like people expect way too much for a 100$ rod.
Yours doesn't call fish out of the water like mine???
ww2farmer reply :
On 11/13/2012 at 10:26 AM, retiredbosn said:Wow taking a shot over my bow for a opinion. I'm feeling pretty onery this evening so think I will respond. Thanks
I would suggest getting your hands on a few more rods then.
I'm not a Shimano groupie
100% Talking out your rear end.................like you usually do. I have seen boat loads of Mojo rods, as every sporting goods store around has racks of them, never seen any of the issues you describe, they must have magicly all been sent to your area. These disscussions all ways turn into this, and ususally there is the one post where someone gets off the chart stupid..........congrats, you made that post.
*Hootie reply :
On 11/13/2012 at 7:33 PM, ww2farmer said:100% Talking out your rear end.................like you usually do... there is the one post where someone gets off the chart stupid..........congrats, you made that post.
Sounds like you haven't done to bad yourself......lol
Hootie
ww2farmer reply :
I do what I can to maintain status quo.
retiredbosn reply :
Remove the reel seat tension nut (that little thing you twist to hold the reel in place), look into the reel seat, where the rid goes in is where you'll see the resin that looks like silicone. Both of mine had one huge glob on one side, that is what killed the sensitivity of the rod.
unionman reply :
Nonexistent on all 3 of mine. Two for plastics and one spinnerbait.
unionman reply :
I can feel the smallest bluegill nibble on my plastics...
Mike__D reply :
Veritas hands down against the mojo. They are lighter, crisper and IMO are just a better product.
mike D
Hanover_Yakker reply :
The one point that continues to be missed here is one of the most critical in deciding which rod you should consider. Unless you take your actual reel or at least get one from the reel counter to mount onto the various rods you are choosing, you are just shooting in the dark and hoping for a good match.
Your "feel" for agiven rod will undoubtedly be different than someone elses. While personal preference and experience lend itself to the opinions and suggestions so far, all we can do as a collective group is provide insight and experience. It takes a careful touch to convey that information without flaming one brand over another.
Do yourself a favor, take your reel spooled up with the line you are going to use and install it on the various rods and see which one feels the best. Once you have it narrowed down to 2-3 choices, then test the sensitivity of the rod and reel together. Ask the attendant or your fishing buddy/spouse to come with you and have them place the rod tip against their vocal cords and speak softly. If you can't feel the vibrations, then have that person speak a little louder until you can feel it. Now switch to the other rod and repeat until you have a clear picture in your mind which rod was the most sensitive.
Once you have your various attributes checked off, the rod of choice should be a clear decision at that point. If you still are at an impass, then default to the other standard criteria of: warranty, customer service past experiences, price point and rod length.
Hope this helps!
slowpoke274 reply :
On 11/12/2012 at 7:59 AM, ww2farmer said:I will take all of the "hated" Mojo's off peoples hands that want to get rid of them.
my thoughts exactly very solid rods
skeletor6 reply :
*** *** black will solve all your problems 
its a very nice rod in that price range.
If I had to choose id take the veritas over the mojo fwiw.
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