The Best Is Not A Requirement 2024
JT Bagwell reply :
For you guys/gals that are newer to bass fishing, I want to give you a little input.
You absolutely do not need to have the best fishing equipment on the market to catch a bass.
Instead of spending beyond your means, just get the best that you can afford.
Most of the equipment made nowdays is pretty decent so you will be just fine.
JT Bagwell
@BagwellFishing
Senko lover reply :
I would actually recommend that if you're just starting, get something nice. Why? Most people start with a cheap baitcaster to "learn on." You're learning experience is going to be so much better if you use a nice reel. And plus, if you start out with a cheap combo, you'll eventually upgrade, and cost yourself more money than if you just bought a nice combo in the first place. Of course, it doesn't have to be a $300 combo, but you get what you pay for.
Catt reply :
The #1 key to consistently catching bass is between your ears not between the folds of your wallet!
the reel ess reply :
If I may make a suggestion, for anyone looking for a top quality spinning reel, try the Pfleuger Trion series. I've been using one since winter and I can't think of a single complaint. No twists and the drag is smooth as butter and strong.
$40 everywhere every day. I'm going to buy another when my MH combo reel quits on me. It's an old BPS Viper $70 combo special that just won't wear out. I'd suggest it too, but they don't make it anymore.
lecisnith reply :
I've been using a $60 Black Max combo for two years. Still serves me well in the rotation. None of my combos cost me more than $130.
Ersteman reply :
Agreed JT!
Did you experience people pushing high dollar product or did you have an encounter with a new fisherman?
My black max combo has caught just as much fish as my other combos. Does it cast as far as some others? No. Has it failed me once when I've hooked into a fish? Nope.
Fishing equipment can be heavily marketed and just because someone spends $300 on a combo, doesn't mean you wouldn't enjoy a $70 combo and have success with it.
It's easy to buy into the hype of the new lures and rods and reels and the companies want you to dish our your dough. You just have to be reasonable and smart.
To add on to JT's point: If you look for sales and deals and check out the fishing clearance sections, you can find quality equipment for affortable prices.
I pride myself on never paying full price for practically anything. There's great deals in the Flea Market section of these forums, I've had a lot of success on Ebay, and even Craigslist can be useful. Your local sports store usually has a weekly circular too.
Also, if you have experience under your belt, it's nice to pass along the knowledge to new fisherman to help them in their buying decisions, which is another reason Bass Resource rules.
frogflogger reply :
Don't be intimidated by expensive tackle - spinning tackle especially can be inexpensive and functional.
nosdog2 reply :
Great post/advice. My blackmax combo is actually one of my favorites in my bunch.
the reel ess reply :
On 8/7/2015 at 7:41 PM, lecisnith said:I've been using a $60 Black Max combo for two years. Still serves me well in the rotation. None of my combos cost me more than $130.
I've got a combo that, if purchased new, would have cost about $260. I bought the Johnny Morris reel off Ebay used and the Falcon rod from a guy at work getting out of fishing. I have $100 in the combo. By far my best combo. But my personal best was on a cheap used ABU 2005LP BC composite frame reel and a Lightning rod. This has to be one of the best composite framed reels ever made. So strong it could be used for pitching in heavy cover.
My point is I have several $70 combos. A lot of people go gung-ho with the best equipment money can buy only to get tired of the hobby and either sell it cheap or let it collect dust.
papajoe222 reply :
There was a popular saying back in the day. It wasn't coined in reference to fishing gear, but it still applies:
"Buy the best you can afford, the cheapest will disappoint you and the more expensive is only beneficial to the person selling it,rarely to the person buying."
IndyGlockMan reply :
If you are near a Gander Mountain, they have the Lew's Tournament SX combo on sale for $99 (was $149)
Great quality combo and doesn't break the bank.
Love my AG black max too!
stkbassn reply :
On 8/7/2015 at 7:16 PM, JT Bagwell said:For you guys/gals that are newer to bass fishing, I want to give you a little input.
You absolutely do not need to have the best fishing equipment on the market to catch a bass.
Instead of spending beyond your means, just get the best that you can afford.
Most of the equipment made nowdays is pretty decent so you will be just fine.
JT Bagwell
@BagwellFishing
I agree 100%. It's funny , when I fell in love with bass fishing as a much younger guy 
I only cared about catching fish. I didn't much care what I caught them with. I was passionate about just getting to the water and couldn't wait to make the first cast. As the years went by I picked up more advanced equipment but never matched anything or worried about what rod was good for what application, action, power, etc. I caught a ton of fish and never thought about it. Now I feel like there's too much information, too much to choose from, and too many opinions. i think a lot of this gets in the way of learning and probably intimidates more anglers than actually attracts them to the sport. I got to fish a lot more back in the day too....had less, had lesser quality equipment, had more time and caught more fish.... So, get something decent that will catch you some fish and not break your bank. Worry about fishing and not about what you're using. Enjoy it, it's supposed to be fun after all. I'm guilty of a lot of things that I'm saying here....I try to buy the best, I worry about my gear, technique specific things...yada yada...I admit it stresses me out a lot of times. I get too caught up in it too. The Bait Monkey is not your friend!! Good luck! I over do it and don't keep it simple like I used to. I am going to try to get back to that. I'm not selling my Metanium though!! LOL
Canyon explorer reply :
On 8/7/2015 at 7:38 PM, the reel ess said:If I may make a suggestion, for anyone looking for a top quality spinning reel, try the Pfleuger Trion series. I've been using one since winter and I can't think of a single complaint. No twists and the drag is smooth as butter and strong.
$40 everywhere every day.
Amen Great reel for the $.
scaleface reply :
Glad to see so many other thrifty anglers .
BassinLou reply :
On 8/7/2015 at 10:25 PM, stkbassn said:I agree 100%. It's funny , when I fell in love with bass fishing as a much younger guy
I only cared about catching fish. I didn't much care what I caught them with. I was passionate about just getting to the water and couldn't wait to make the first cast. As the years went by I picked up more advanced equipment but never matched anything or worried about what rod was good for what application, action, power, etc. I caught a ton of fish and never thought about it. Now I feel like there's too much information, too much to choose from, and too many opinions. i think a lot of this gets in the way of learning and probably intimidates more anglers than actually attracts them to the sport. I got to fish a lot more back in the day too....had less, had lesser quality equipment, had more time and caught more fish.... So, get something decent that will catch you some fish and not break your bank. Worry about fishing and not about what you're using. Enjoy it, it's supposed to be fun after all. I'm guilty of a lot of things that I'm saying here....I try to buy the best, I worry about my gear, technique specific things...yada yada...I admit it stresses me out a lot of times. I get too caught up in it too. The Bait Monkey is not your friend!! Good luck! I over do it and don't keep it simple like I used to. I am going to try to get back to that. I'm not selling my Metanium though!! LOL
This is a great point!
Imho, when I first started fishing as a kid, (long time ago..lol) information was not easy to come by. At least for me. I was self taught, My exposure were a few fishing show's and the occasional magazine I would come across at the library or a waiting room somewhere. All my equipment was cheap because it took me forever to save up to it. But I had an absolute blast doing it. I guess that's why I appreciate my gear so much today.
Fast forward to today: Internet alone: you have youtube and fishing forums. TV: multiple fishing shows and fishing channels. Magazines: although this arena is quickly becoming extinct, you still have multiple fishing magazines. Books? Plenty of those too!! The point I am trying to make, taking books out of the equation, is advertising. Anglers are being bombarded with advertising unconsciously and consciously every waking moment. Why do you think we get so many rookie anglers here on forums such as BR asking for the "Best" fill in the blank, all the time? They are trying to sift through all the overwhelming amount of information that there is out there and don't know what choose.
Yes... there are plenty of cheap and affordable fishing equipment out there. Let time be your guide. Buy equipment you can easily afford, you will quickly learn if you have the fishing bug or not. If you don't have the bug, or fishing wasn't "your thing" then you didn't spend alot of money on gear. But... if you did get the bug, over time start improving your gear, and time and $$ will dictate what you will get. Fishing is an evolving sport. You will always be changing something every 5-10yrs. If you don't you are honestly missing out on pretty good technological advances that fishing equipment has to offer.
Freak78 reply :
I grew up on a zebco 33. Used that for many many years and caught 100's of large fish in multiple species. I even used them into my 20's but the quality of them has definitely changed over the years. I got the boy using them and man it was tough getting one to last a month without breaking down. He caught the bass in my picture on them and well as numerous pike, cats, and 35+ lb carp. You absolutely do not need to put hundreds into rigs to catch fish.
K_Mac reply :
I completely agree JT. Good equipment is enjoyable to use, and most of take a while to find the level that works best for us. Even entry level gear today is far better than was available a few years ago. Investing in high end gear is best done when you've had enough experience to know what you like and need.
RoLo reply :
On 8/7/2015 at 7:20 PM, Catt said:The #1 key to consistently catching bass is between your ears not between the folds of your wallet!
scaleface reply :
The fish in my avatar were caught with a cane pole .
the reel ess reply :
On 8/7/2015 at 11:28 PM, scaleface said:Glad to see so many other thrifty anglers .
When you have a family and aren't a pro, you have to make choices regarding food, clothing, etc.
the reel ess reply :
On 8/7/2015 at 11:38 PM, Freak78 said:I grew up on a zebco 33. Used that for many many years and caught 100's of large fish in multiple species. I even used them into my 20's but the quality of them has definitely changed over the years. I got the boy using them and man it was tough getting one to last a month without breaking down. He caught the bass in my picture on them and well as numerous pike, cats, and 35+ lb carp. You absolutely do not need to put hundreds into rigs to catch fish.
Me too. I got a 33 with a stiff rod and a Daiwa UL spinning combo. I had all the bases covered!
Freak78 reply :
33's will always be near and dear to me. Its wasn't until the internet had been around until I heard them being referred to as kids toys and whatnot. Hell I met several pros on the potomac who either had one in the boat or sung thier praises. Ease of use, quality (back then) and simply never broke or got tangled. I might go buy another lol
Jaderose reply :
On 8/7/2015 at 7:38 PM, the reel ess said:If I may make a suggestion, for anyone looking for a top quality spinning reel, try the Pfleuger Trion series. I've been using one since winter and I can't think of a single complaint. No twists and the drag is smooth as butter and strong.
$40 everywhere every day.
Yep...I bought one from Fleabay for $25. Wound up giving it away last year but only because the guy needed it. I upgraded to a President. While I don't have much experience with spinning reels, I'm not sure what more you could want from a reel than what the President has to offer for 60 bucks.
Cgrinder reply :
Yeah, but don't cheap out on baitcasting reels unless you want to give yourself an aneurysm.
slonezp reply :
I ain't got nuthin in either one of those places. Guess I'm screwedOn 8/7/2015 at 7:20 PM, Catt said:The #1 key to consistently catching bass is between your ears not between the folds of your wallet!
JT Bagwell reply :
On 8/7/2015 at 7:51 PM, Ersteman said:Agreed JT!
Did you experience people pushing high dollar product or did you have an encounter with a new fisherman?
My black max combo has caught just as much fish as my other combos. Does it cast as far as some others? No. Has it failed me once when I've hooked into a fish? Nope.
Fishing equipment can be heavily marketed and just because someone spends $300 on a combo, doesn't mean you wouldn't enjoy a $70 combo and have success with it.
It's easy to buy into the hype of the new lures and rods and reels and the companies want you to dish our your dough. You just have to be reasonable and smart.
To add on to JT's point: If you look for sales and deals and check out the fishing clearance sections, you can find quality equipment for affortable prices.
I pride myself on never paying full price for practically anything. There's great deals in the Flea Market section of these forums, I've had a lot of success on Ebay, and even Craigslist can be useful. Your local sports store usually has a weekly circular too.
Also, if you have experience under your belt, it's nice to pass along the knowledge to new fisherman to help them in their buying decisions, which is another reason Bass Resource rules.
There was no specific experience that made me think of posting this (I often just have random thoughts).
What was kind of the catalyst is I was looking at some new equipment online and I was looking at the cost.
For several years I was sponsored by Pflueger and All Star before they were bought out by Pure Fishing so I literally have a hundred
rod reel combos they sent me. As a result, I have never had any reason to buy a new one and I have never really looked at getting
a new sponsor.
When I was looking at the new equipment I kind of wondered if it was really any better than the 4 year old stuff I have now
or if the entry level stuff of today was the same as the "high end" older stuff I currently use.
It just kind of had me thinking. lol
Freak78 reply :
On 8/8/2015 at 12:30 AM, scaleface said:The fish in my avatar were caught with a cane pole .
My wifes grandfather only used cane poles. And everytime we went he out fished me 2 to 1. He had them in all different lengths and sizes. He wasn't shy about bragging either. Always wanted to give one a try.
Rhino68W reply :
On 8/7/2015 at 7:41 PM, lecisnith said:I've been using a $60 Black Max combo for two years. Still serves me well in the rotation. None of my combos cost me more than $130.
If you like that one you should check out the H20 Xpress Mettle. You can get a combo with the camo Mettle for $100. Definitely competes with my higher end setups.
Rhino68W reply :
On 8/7/2015 at 7:19 PM, Senko lover said:I would actually recommend that if you're just starting, get something nice. Why? Most people start with a cheap baitcaster to "learn on." You're learning experience is going to be so much better if you use a nice reel. And plus, if you start out with a cheap combo, you'll eventually upgrade, and cost yourself more money than if you just bought a nice combo in the first place. Of course, it doesn't have to be a $300 combo, but you get what you pay for.
I get your point. But think of it from an entry level fisherman's POV. How many people are going to go out and get a $250 rod and reel to learn how to fish? Not very many. If you can afford it then great! But realistically, people are going to be searching for cheaper options when they are starting out.
the reel ess reply :
On 8/8/2015 at 2:10 AM, Rhino68W said:I get your point. But think of it from an entry level fisherman's POV. How many people are going to go out and get a $250 rod and reel to learn how to fish? Not very many. If you can afford it then great! But realistically, people are going to be searching for cheaper options when they are starting out.
I wouldn't even start with a BC as my first combo. If you do you have to learn to bass fish and cast a BC reel at the same time. Recognizing the usefulness of a MH and a M spinning combo, I'd start with those two to learn the basics of bassin'.
NathanW reply :
True, its more about how you look than what gear you are throwing... I mean if your not wearing a jersey you probably aren't catching any fish. Don't leave the jersey at home guys.
Catt reply :
On 8/8/2015 at 1:51 AM, slonezp said:I ain't got nuthin in either one of those places. Guess I'm screwed
Yea! Well I've been around this site to long to buy that one!
Catch and Grease reply :
On easter my uncle gave me a old fish eagle rod that was stiff enough to use as a flipping stick and I caught more 4lb+ fish on that rod than any other rod I've owned in the short amount of time I had it... I recently broke it sadly and I wasn't even fishing when it happened! I loved that darn rod!
Violinguy reply :
This is the same type of discussion as with photography (another hobby of mine).
A $5000 camera with a $3000 lens does not make anyone a better photographer - just as a $400+ rig doesn't make anyone a better angler. I take and sell some great photos with my consumer model DSLR, and I catch lots of fish with my $150-and-under combos.
The best advice I ever heard when it comes to gear (for whatever hobby) is, buy the best gear you can afford. If you can afford top dollar gear, then go for it. If not, you'll catch tons of fish with the less expensive stuff. Either way, if fished properly, anyone can catch all the fish they want with anything on the shelf or in the catalog.
RoLo reply :
On 8/8/2015 at 1:51 AM, slonezp said:I ain't got nuthin in either one of those places. Guess I'm screwed
That's what I've been trying to tellya.
Roger
Djman72 reply :
It's all relative.
The less you spend on your rod/reel is more the bait monkey will have to play with.......
the reel ess reply :
On 8/8/2015 at 2:33 AM, NathanW said:True, its more about how you look than what gear you are throwing... I mean if your not wearing a jersey you probably aren't catching any fish. Don't leave the jersey at home guys.
I bought a sky blue Columbia PFG long sleeve jersey. I've never been skunked while wearing it. Coincidence?
But my daughter left Chap Stick in the pocket of her jeans and I dried them with the shirt. Now it has darker spots all over it. I wear it anyway. Still stops the sunburn and makes me look knowledgeable.
bigbill reply :
JT, guys/gals,
That's my point buy what up can afford, hit the tag sales and flea markets. Remember to haggle the price. Make sure the reels work. Buy good decent line.
Just get out there and fish.
I started out with trout tackle. That didn't last long. I was using Garcia river mist line #4 $1 a spool. The bass killed the $7 spinning reel. I upgraded to a shakespear rod 6' and a Wal-Mart quantum reel and Excalibur silver thread line. This setup caught my PB.
slonezp reply :
On 8/8/2015 at 8:54 AM, Djman72 said:It's all relative.
The less you spend on your rod/reel is more the bait monkey will have to play with.......
It is all relative, but not for the reason you mentioned.
slonezp reply :
JT, while I tend to agree with you, I think the bass fishing newbies would be better off being schooled on matching rod with reel with line with presentation. Than just being told that cheap is ok.
WallyWorld, BPS and Cabelas all sell inexpensive combos. These combos matched with the incorrect line and/or used for the incorrect presentation could cause buyers remorse and now we want to go out and buy a Loomis and Shimano because we think the WallyWorld/BPS/Cabelas stuff is garbage.
hoosierbass07 reply :
On 8/7/2015 at 7:16 PM, JT Bagwell said:For you guys/gals that are newer to bass fishing, I want to give you a little input.
You absolutely do not need to have the best fishing equipment on the market to catch a bass.
Instead of spending beyond your means, just get the best that you can afford.
Most of the equipment made nowdays is pretty decent so you will be just fine.
Not only do you not need the best, I would recommend instead of spending all your money on high end equipment, take that money and travel to new waters far away. Traveling and fishing new waters a good distance from you will probably increase your big bass catch rate more than buying a $150 rod or $400 reel and fishing your same old bodies of water.
I started out using Ugly Sticks and still have them though don't use them now but I would not want to get rid of them. Always have to have the dependable and affordable Ugly Stick in my collection just in case I need it.
AdamsEye reply :
On 8/9/2015 at 12:57 AM, slonezp said:JT, while I tend to agree with you, I think the bass fishing newbies would be better off being schooled on matching rod with reel with line with presentation. Than just being told that cheap is ok.
WallyWorld, BPS and Cabelas all sell inexpensive combos. These combos matched with the incorrect line and/or used for the incorrect presentation could cause buyers remorse and now we want to go out and buy a Loomis and Shimano because we think the WallyWorld/BPS/Cabelas stuff is garbage.
Very good point, and I agree 100% present.
Turkey sandwich reply :
Bingo, slonezp. A $10 hammer and a $50 hammer will both pound nails. A $10 screw driver or a $35 screw driver, the same. However, if you try to pound nails with a screw driver or turn screws with a hammer, you're in for a long day.
Maxximus Redneckus reply :
Its ok to use 100$ reels and 50$ rods im willing to bet that price range in combos catch more fish in 1 month than ppl buying 500$ rods and 400$ reels in 2 yrs.Sure you wil say buts its so nice using a 8 once combo..i use combos that are 10 onces the fish have no clue its all about balance.my round abus may look funny on a 5'6" pistol grip but they are all tip light and feel perfect and i havent broke a rod on a fish or cast in my life.
Grizzn N Bassin reply :
Still use a silver max for frogging. 6.4.1 I beilve and haven't lost a fish because of the reel. I have better reels but the cheaper ones get the job done just fine.
Big Bait Fishing reply :
On 8/7/2015 at 7:16 PM, JT Bagwell said:For you guys/gals that are newer to bass fishing, I want to give you a little input.
You absolutely do not need to have the best fishing equipment on the market to catch a bass.
Instead of spending beyond your means, just get the best that you can afford.
Most of the equipment made nowdays is pretty decent so you will be just fine.
JT Bagwell
@BagwellFishing
the cardinal rule for buying rod and reel , buy the best you can afford ....
SirSnookalot reply :
Bass or otherwise, nothing beats know how and location. Expensive gear may be more fun to use, it does wonders bolstering one's ego leading them to a false sense fishing superiority. But if those lures are casted in the wrong place, it's all for naught. A $30 off the shelf combo can and will catch lots of fish, providing you put the bait or lure where it should be and work it properly. The cheap outfit may be a better tool to learn on, catch fish with and them and fish should just jump all over an $800 rig. The fact is they don't, you still have to find them and entice them, that's the fisherman not the gear.
Balshy Fishing reply :
I Feel like it could be a confidence thing. If you're born and taught that cheap will work, than you'll have confidence in what you're using no matter what.
Some guys don't believe cheap stuff will work as well and don't have as much confidence.
I know that stands true with me and baseball. I buy pricey bats, but that's all, but the money gives me the confidence towards the product.
Gloves and what not I'll buy cheaper and have tons of confidence.
LuckyGia reply :
On 8/7/2015 at 10:01 PM, IndyGlockMan said:If you are near a Gander Mountain, they have the Lew's Tournament SX combo on sale for $99 (was $149)
Great quality combo and doesn't break the bank.
Love my AG black max too!
I actually bought a 2nd Lews because I was so impressed with the reel. Price was a bonus.
Only combo I have purchased with regret was a Gander Mountain package.
It was my first attempt at baitcast and I am surpised I stayed with it after that package.
Lews and shimano are my go to.
pbizzle reply :
I'm only 15 (16 in a week!), so I know I'm no expert, but I will say that I agree 100% with everything JT and Cat said. I'm the only one in my family who fishes, so I began by using a $20 Rapala combo I bought at Marshall's (yes the clothing store lol). Had a ton of fun with that so I saved up and bought what I thought was probably the greatest combo on Earth. A little $50 two piece Pflueger combo. I actually joined a bass club and fished my first 2 or 3 tournaments with just that reel, AND I HAD A TON OF FUN DOING IT! I probably had more fun with that then I do now with all my nice gear! Now I've got 6 or 7 combos, that I've put about $150 - $250 in. Not the nicest, but all good stuff (I find stuff on sale). I fish a lot of H2O Xpress rods, and they catch fish just fine. I actually won my club tournament last year against old guys fishing Loomis's and everything. So no I dont recommend getting the very best stuff to start fishing. I don't even think you have to get the best stuff once you're an experienced fisherman. I mean if Ike can make it to a Classic fishing with Veritas you can probably catch a fish on cheaper setup… just sayin'.
masterbass reply :
I used to catch just as many fish with my shakespeare spinning combos from walmart.
FinCulture reply :
most spinning reels over about 30 bucks will usually be of decent quality, so I wouldn't dump a lot of money into one if I was just starting out. as far as baitcasters, I would say you can find some great starter options for about $100, give or take maybe twenty bucks. Going cheap is kind of the automatic thought by lots of people starting out new things, but this doesn't really even work with fishing. Having said that, you don't need to spend $500 on your first combo, either.
Musky_Fever reply :
I'm glad this topic came up because I was going to post something similar about how all my cheaper, older rods/reels catch more fish than the Avid and Loomis and shinny reels. The rod I have caught the most fish on is an old Berkley lighting rod that was given to me by an elderly fisherman. He's been fishing it since the early 90s. The reel I've caught the most fish on....an old Shakespeare reel from an Ugly Stick combo and an old school Shimano spinning reel with a rear drag. I can fish for hours with new expensive stuff and not catch a thing. Then, just for fun, I'll use old gear with el-chepo worms and catch something. Drives me insane. Fish are scared of all of the expensive s***.
fishindad reply :
Keeping this on topic and about rod and reel combos, I would recommend to someone just starting out to use their money for 3-5 entry level combos, with more emphasis towards the reel. This way one could start out the right way with maybe 3-5 hard baits of each : spinnerbaits, topwater, cranks, jerk baits, lipless. And a small box of jigs and soft plastics, etc. Learn to use both baitcaster and spin gear. Learn to use each bait type and which situation you use them for. Then move up in quality as desired and skills increase.
No question it's human nature to want something better, with time. As one gains more experience they "outgrow" their tools and gadgets, be it fishing, photography, cycling, whatever. When I started fishing, a Fenwick Lunkerstik and red 5000 or Daiwa Millionaire was high end. But that was over 40 years ago and now look at the evolution of the sport. No one in the industry could have ever envisioned touch screen electronics, GPS, 300HP, 21 foot bass boats, etc. JDM gear? Unheard of. It is tempting as a beginner to "copy" the pros but as was pointed out in another thread, today's pros don't use high end equipment on the scale the most enthusiasts do. What you can buy for $100 far exceeds the performance of yesterday's gear.
All this said, that bait monkey is awfully hard to ignore 
the reel ess reply :
On 8/12/2015 at 4:08 AM, masterbass said:I used to catch just as many fish with my shakespeare spinning combos from walmart.
On 8/12/2015 at 3:03 AM, pbizzle said:I'm only 15 (16 in a week!), so I know I'm no expert, but I will say that I agree 100% with everything JT and Cat said. I'm the only one in my family who fishes, so I began by using a $20 Rapala combo I bought at Marshall's (yes the clothing store lol).
I'm not sure if it's the same chain, but I have a little story about Marshall's. We have those stores around here too. When I was about 22 (a very long time ago) my dad and I hired a striper/hybrid guide on Lake Hartwell. I called him and we arranged to meet at Marshall's Marina in Anderson, SC. We showed up and the place was already open at 5:00 AM and our guide was getting blueback herring for bait. The owner of the marina asked us where we were from and we told him. He said his family owned a store there. We asked what it was and he said Marshall's department store. I think they have since sold out to a larger company though.
the reel ess reply :
On 8/12/2015 at 3:03 AM, pbizzle said:if Ike can make it to a Classic fishing with Veritas you can probably catch a fish on cheaper setup… just sayin'.
I see pros using a BPS Pro Qualifier. That's a less-than-$100 reel.
roadwarrior reply :
Well...
Pick your priing point and you will get some GREAT advice. There are great values out there and
no one has a lock on what might be "the best" for you. As a collector of "technique specific" rods and
reels, my preference is different than yours. For strictly "fishing" I think anything in the $150- $200
range is the very best "value". That said, some of us are "collectores" and the pricing point is much
different.
einscodek reply :
On 8/7/2015 at 7:16 PM, JT Bagwell said:For you guys/gals that are newer to bass fishing, I want to give you a little input.
You absolutely do not need to have the best fishing equipment on the market to catch a bass.
Instead of spending beyond your means, just get the best that you can afford.
Most of the equipment made nowdays is pretty decent so you will be just fine.
JT Bagwell
@BagwellFishing
Amen
BradGuenette reply :
Save your money, make a fishing fund, heck even if it's $20 a pay. My biggest reason for buying higher end gear is because it will last the ages. That $60 baitcaster you bought breaks down the road in two three years so you buy another and so on and so on. Spend the little extra, buy of quality the first time and it will last. I have old Chronarch 100b's that have been in my line up for nearly 10 years.
roadwarrior reply :
Okay,,,
On the otherhand ther is some GREAT gear to consider if you want to up your game.
Most of "fishing" is fishing and has verylittle to do with "catching": Better gear is simply
more fun to play with.
einscodek reply :
No offense to anyone esp if it doesnt apply
My sincere theory on this high end buying is that most fisherman are under the idea that their unmet goals or disatisfaction with fishing results..
have more to do with a lack of "something material" rather than a lack of "understanding or knowing or skill" which would hurt the ego to no end
and so deep down it must be that I dont have this or that lure or am not using the best of this or that
..and of course we have a robust capitalistic system in place to take advantage of this insecurity
when really it is fishing wisdom and knowledge which would impact your results the most
extrapolate this out to life in general if desired
offsidewing reply :
Know what you need. Buy what you can afford.
WPCfishing reply :
I have some nice gear.. But I'll share this with you.
I bought a Berkley Shock casting rod for versatility.
50 bucks at BP. I can say from experience it's one hell of a rod.
NathanW reply :
On 8/8/2015 at 10:38 PM, the reel ess said:I bought a sky blue Columbia PFG long sleeve jersey. I've never been skunked while wearing it. Coincidence?
But my daughter left Chap Stick in the pocket of her jeans and I dried them with the shirt. Now it has darker spots all over it. I wear it anyway. Still stops the sunburn and makes me look knowledgeable.
I am a big fan of those PFG shirts. Not sure I would consider it a jersey but I bet if its like one of the ones I have and has the big letters down the arm you are catching lots of fish.
SirSnookalot reply :
On 8/7/2015 at 10:25 PM, stkbassn said:I agree 100%. It's funny , when I fell in love with bass fishing as a much younger guy
SirSnookalot reply :
On 8/7/2015 at 10:25 PM, stkbassn said:I agree 100%. It's funny , when I fell in love with bass fishing as a much younger guy
SirSnookalot reply :
Delete my post
K_Mac reply :
This topic always stirs much discussion. I think most of us learned on inexpensive gear. Truth is for many of us the equipment in common use when we started was pretty primitive by today's standards. That even entry level rods and reels today are far better than what I used as a kid is not in doubt.
With that said, you can still buy gear that limits your ability to catch fish effectively in my opinion. That is why the advice, "Buy the best you can afford" is the standard advice given. Spending just a little more can make a big difference in making the entire experience more enjoyable and productive. For those who can afford the best, this advice really is too simple. Just because you can afford top of the line gear doesn't mean that it is a good investment. For the avid fisherman with deep pockets it may be. For the collecting enthusiast, sure. But for the vast majority of experienced anglers there is a fairly clear point where the dimishing returns don't justify spending more.
The problem for me is the methods and materials continue to improve. While I don't really need new gear, I am always curious about the advances. This is the engine that keeps the wheels turning for tackle manufacturing IMO.
the reel ess reply :
On 8/12/2015 at 10:16 PM, NathanW said:I am a big fan of those PFG shirts. Not sure I would consider it a jersey but I bet if its like one of the ones I have and has the big letters down the arm you are catching lots of fish.
Absolutely! I have another short sleeved one that has the logo of a company I previously worked for on it. But since it doesn't have Columbia or even Calcutta on it, my confidence is low while wearing it. And you know fish, with their brains the size of a grain of sand, can feel the confidence transmitted down that superline like a telegraph.
the reel ess reply :
On 8/12/2015 at 11:53 AM, WPCfishing said:I have some nice gear.. But I'll share this with you.
I bought a Berkley Shock casting rod for versatility.
50 bucks at BP. I can say from experience it's one hell of a rod.
I've been using two regular Lightning rods for maybe 8-9 years years. I bought a MH and a M BC rod because I didn't want to break the bank. I mostly use them for trebles because they aren't extremely sensitive. But I've started using one for T rigs because I had to poach a better rod for frogs. I could probably sense a bite with a fiberglass rod nowadays.
I just recently bought a 7'M spinning Lightning Rod for jerkbaits and the like.
MrBigFishSC reply :
On 8/12/2015 at 11:50 PM, K_Mac said:This topic always stirs much discussion. I think most of us learned on inexpensive gear. Truth is for many of us the equipment in common use when we started was pretty primitive by today's standards. That even entry level rods and reels today are far better than what I used as a kid is not in doubt.
With that said, you can still buy gear that limits your ability to catch fish effectively in my opinion. That is why the advice, "Buy the best you can afford" is the standard advice given. Spending just a little more can make a big difference in making the entire experience more enjoyable and productive. For those who can afford the best, this advice really is too simple. Just because you can afford top of the line gear doesn't mean that it is a good investment. For the avid fisherman with deep pockets it may be. For the collecting enthusiast, sure. But for the vast majority of experienced anglers there is a fairly clear point where the dimishing returns don't justify spending more.
The problem for me is the methods and materials continue to improve. While I don't really need new gear, I am always curious about the advances. This is the engine that keeps the wheels turning for tackle manufacturing IMO.
On 8/12/2015 at 11:50 PM, K_Mac said:This topic always stirs much discussion. I think most of us learned on inexpensive gear. Truth is for many of us the equipment in common use when we started was pretty primitive by today's standards. That even entry level rods and reels today are far better than what I used as a kid is not in doubt.
With that said, you can still buy gear that limits your ability to catch fish effectively in my opinion. That is why the advice, "Buy the best you can afford" is the standard advice given. Spending just a little more can make a big difference in making the entire experience more enjoyable and productive. For those who can afford the best, this advice really is too simple. Just because you can afford top of the line gear doesn't mean that it is a good investment. For the avid fisherman with deep pockets it may be. For the collecting enthusiast, sure. But for the vast majority of experienced anglers there is a fairly clear point where the dimishing returns don't justify spending more.
The problem for me is the methods and materials continue to improve. While I don't really need new gear, I am always curious about the advances. This is the engine that keeps the wheels turning for tackle manufacturing IMO.
A perfect post to this thread. Good quality equipment will make it more fun and allow you to reach your potential. If you need more expensive then go for it. Money can't buy fish just experience. Same goes for most things in life.
MrBigFishSC reply :
On 8/13/2015 at 6:54 AM, MrBigFishSC said:A perfect post to this thread. Good quality equipment will make it more fun and allow you to reach your potential. If you need more expensive then go for it. Money can't buy fish just experience. Same goes for most things in life.
On 8/13/2015 at 6:54 AM, MrBigFishSC said:A perfect post to this thread. Good quality equipment will make it more fun and allow you to reach your potential. If you need more expensive then go for it. Money can't buy fish just experience. Same goes for most things in life.
That should read money can't buy fish but experience will pay dividends.
SenkoGuru reply :
I grew up very poor with a loving family that worked hard and had good values. I learned to fish on very cheap gear and I loved every second of it. Now that I'm older and I have a family of my own, I've been lucky enough to have good work ethic's and a great job. I am now able to buy good fishing gear and I have bought a LOT of it. It has never made me a better fisherman but it has sure made me enjoy fishing a whole lot more. I Spoil my son by letting him fish with Megabass rod's and TDZ reels. I have came a long way since my dad and me were fishing cheap $20 rod and reel combo's. I am teaching my son the basic's of fishing and how to be a good person, he is just lucky enough to be doing it on good equipment.
Here is a good example. My Son's high school has a fishing team and a fishing club in the school, it took us a long time to get this going and this will be the first year my son gets to fish it. My wife told me the other day, that our son should have a big advantage with that giant room full of fishing gear that I have collected over the years. I was quick to correct her and let her know that the equipment would not give him an advantage, that he would need to know when and when to use what type of bait in what cover and that I had taught him those things over the years and that would be where he would get an advantage, if he had one at all.
SirSnookalot reply :
On 8/12/2015 at 10:46 PM, SirSnookalot said:
On 8/7/2015 at 10:25 PM, stkbassn said:I agree 100%. It's funny , when I fell in love with bass fishing as a much younger guy
Well said
Josh Smith reply :
I have fished for about 35 years now, since I was two or three.
I bought a relatively expensive rod a while back, and it promptly broke.
While it was being returned and replaced, I bought a Cherrywood HD to use with the reel that was on it, sort of an experiment.
That $20 Cherrywood is now my go-to rod. It is used first, though I take much higher-end rods along.
It would be perfect with upgraded eyelets.
It's all in what you're looking for, I think. This is perfect for heavy cover.
Looks sort of funny with a supertuned and upgraded 5500c3 on it, but it's the most useful setup I have.
Josh
chelboed reply :
I love gear...gadgetry...I geek out.
That said...I get a kick out of listening to people talk about what they "need". Like recent posts around here regarding down sizing to only 4-5 rigs.
When I started bass fishing 25 years ago...with baitcasters...with lures, you looked for a good 6'6" Medium or medium heavy rod and some 14# Stren. We caught fish. I don't know that we catch any more fish today on 20 different rigs with hundreds of different lures than we did back then.
I'm actually down-sizing my tackle because I catch most of my fish on Stick-O's, Mepps, Frogs, and Lipless cranks.
I mean seriously...as a bank fisherman, what am I going to do with a lipped crankbait that dives more than 5'? Get it hung up as I draw it into shallow water?
Why do I need a drop shot or shakey head when a Senko dropped I'm the same hole will likely catch the same fish?
Any fish I've caught on jigs lately...I could have caught on a Stick-O. Anything I've caught on traditional spinners and chatter baits, I could have caught on Mepps. I really only need 2 colors of stick bait, 3 colors of spinner, 3 colors of Lipless, and 1 frog.
Everything else is just marketing. Not really necessary.
I love to oogle the new rods and reels out there, but most likely if I buy another new rig...it'll just be another versatile 6'10" MH,F for bank fishing. That's all I use.
thehooligan reply :
On 8/12/2015 at 11:50 PM, K_Mac said:This topic always stirs much discussion. I think most of us learned on inexpensive gear. Truth is for many of us the equipment in common use when we started was pretty primitive by today's standards. That even entry level rods and reels today are far better than what I used as a kid is not in doubt.
With that said, you can still buy gear that limits your ability to catch fish effectively in my opinion. That is why the advice, "Buy the best you can afford" is the standard advice given. Spending just a little more can make a big difference in making the entire experience more enjoyable and productive. For those who can afford the best, this advice really is too simple. Just because you can afford top of the line gear doesn't mean that it is a good investment. For the avid fisherman with deep pockets it may be. For the collecting enthusiast, sure. But for the vast majority of experienced anglers there is a fairly clear point where the dimishing returns don't justify spending more.
The problem for me is the methods and materials continue to improve. While I don't really need new gear, I am always curious about the advances. This is the engine that keeps the wheels turning for tackle manufacturing IMO.
Couldnt agree more.
I learned on my dad's berkley fiberglass rod with mitchell 308 from the 60's. Used that combo up till about 5 years ago.
The best is absolutely not a requirement, but i will say highend tackle will make you can grin all day long
roadwarrior reply :
Collecting gear is my hobby which I do not consider expensive. This is especially true today after
years of building my assortments. Everything I buy is an add-on, a want, not a need. My newest
project is adding a few custom rods over the next several years.
badhatharry reply :
On 8/7/2015 at 7:16 PM, JT Bagwell said:For you guys/gals that are newer to bass fishing, I want to give you a little input.
You absolutely do not need to have the best fishing equipment on the market to catch a bass.
Instead of spending beyond your means, just get the best that you can afford.
Most of the equipment made nowdays is pretty decent so you will be just fine.
JT Bagwell
@BagwellFishing
I followed this advice right up til the time I stopped fishing 15 years ago. Now that I've taken up the sport again, my gear is still fully functional and ready to use.
SirSnookalot reply :
Being on a bass forum isn't any different than a trout,stripper of smb forum, many of those members feel they have the toughest most battling fish to contend with, best gear is a must. Some people try to be "pc" no wanting to hurt some one's feeling. Seeing post of a 2# bass with declaration of it hiitting like a freight train in my neck of the woods is laughable, then sayiing it REQUIRED an $800 oufit to find it, then land it just adds to the non sense of it all. Collecting is fine but more fun? Any fish I catch even a 10 pound ain't no big deal if standing in one spot not having to run it down on foot 100yds or more.......that's fun! That fish can easily be handled on a $50 reel ans sub $100 rod, done that many times, actually that's what I"M looking to catch.
I not only fish for bass ( I do enjoy it) but many other species too, as my friends do. I get confused with the problems catching bass, my saltwater fishing mates don't discuss problems, mainly because our junk handles what fish we catch, knots other than the FG hold just fine, lines don't break, nor do hooks get straightened out.
Locating fish and landing them are a result of expertise, not better rods and reel, the real fun is catching fish. I personally measure my succsess by how much fun I"m having, not by the size.
ned_riggins reply :
This is a fun topic to talk about because everyone loves new gear and all that. My rods and reels are probably worth more than the boat they are strapped to. Ive got combos worth 400+ dollars and last weekend I caught the biggest smallmouth of my life on a quantum 1310 and one of those free gander mountain rods. My bro laughed at me when I pulled it out but that thing casts a mile and the rod walks a spook like its on autopilot. New gear and everything is fun but when it comes down to if you really had to you could probably do 90% of your fishing with an walmart special spinning rod combo.
JT Bagwell reply :
On 8/8/2015 at 2:33 AM, NathanW said:True, its more about how you look than what gear you are throwing... I mean if your not wearing a jersey you probably aren't catching any fish. Don't leave the jersey at home guys.
That was hilarious. It really made me laugh.
JT Bagwell reply :
Some really good comments on this thread.
I agree with what several people said about some of the super cheap stuff being a pain in the butt.
For conversation sake, I would say $100-$200 is a good entry level combo and $200+ would be what I
would start calling higher end gear. Most of mine retail for around $300 each. Prices now days can obviously
way higher than that.
kadas reply :
On 8/7/2015 at 7:20 PM, Catt said:The #1 key to consistently catching bass is between your ears not between the folds of your wallet!
^^^^ This^^^
NathanW reply :
On 8/15/2015 at 12:07 AM, JT Bagwell said:That was hilarious. It really made me laugh.
Thanks, I really do appreciate your post. It is completely ridiculous what some people think they need spend to have more confidence. Especially beginners. 3ea. Curados/Tatulas > 1ea. Chronarch/Aldebaran/Steez any day of the week.
SirSnookalot reply :
A word often used in discussions is confidence. If I catch nice fish with an xyz lure or this rod and reel combo, what I have is a coincidence. The timing of casting in the right spot at the right time just lined up perfectly. Why do we not catch a 10# bass every time we go, the 1 pounder just got to the lure faster. If using a $20 lure with a $400 rod, then another 300 bucks for reel( don't forget some super duper line, which is a must of course) was a guarantee of better quality fish, based on that thinking one should break their personal best every time they go fishing.
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